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A Ray of Light for Pat and Kevin Williams?

The big story in the Viking universe this week, other than Sunday's matchup with the Houston Texans, is the potential suspension of defensive tackles Pat and Kevin Williams for testing positive for a diuretic that's listed on the NFL's banned substance list.  The substance in question, known as Bumetanide, helps players to cut their excess water weight.  The problem comes with the fact that it can also be used to dilute urine to the point where it will mask any steroids that can be found in a person's urine sample.

Several players are caught up in this at this point. . .and, frankly, we shouldn't even know their names. . .but apparently the players in question were taking an "all-natural" supplement called StarCaps.  Bumetanide is not "all-natural," or anything even remotely close.  It's also not part of the ingredient list that's on all bottles of StarCaps.  One would have to wonder if they might start including it on the label now.

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Or, at least one, MIGHT have the ability to wonder that. . .if they hadn't pulled the plug on their entire operation (as ProFootballTalk.com is reporting).

Say what you will about PFT. . .and we all have at some point, I think. . .but they've done a damn fine job of keeping up with this story.  They're reporting that the National Center for Biotechnology Information. . .a site we link to frequently here at The Daily Norseman. . .said back in November of 2007 that StarCaps contained Bumetanide, yet the ingredient still wasn't listed on the label.

Now, I'm pretty sure that this new information would help Kevin and Pat Williams a lot in a court of law. . .but it remains to be seen if it would do anything to sway the NFL, which can basically do whatever the hell it wants here.  However, it's also been brought to light that the NFL's "steroid hotline" doesn't always have somebody minding the store.  Who mentioned this?  None other than Vikings' receiver Bernard Berrian.

"You've got to take some responsibility and call into that hotline [to inquire about the legality of certain products]," Berrian said on Sirius. "But I know one thing about that hotline. I've called twice before and actually never gotten a hold of anybody sometimes. So even when you try to do the right thing sometimes it is still hard to get a hold of somebody and really find out what you're really taking."

Maybe the NFL should consider cleaning up their own house here.  Of course, as long as the league is run by the joke that is Roger Goodell, I wouldn't bet anything of significance on that happening any time soon.

We'll be back with some more tomorrow, folks. . .lots of stuff to look at going into Sunday's game.  Also, be sure to vote on the new poll question over on the right-hand side there.

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someone should call goodell and tell him that pat and kevin play for the packers, cowboys, or patriots, and that will get them in the clear.

What up?

by snakethejake on Oct 30, 2008 8:36 PM CDT reply actions  

This would absolutely

work, if we could only make him believe it. Maybe we could trade a second and thrid pick to the pack if they would “temporarily” agree to take, and then trade back the williams’ at, or about the time of their sentencing, that way they wont be the only players suspended out of this fiascoe.

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by the Real Thor on Oct 31, 2008 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

The NFL drives me crazy

They always seem to think themselves above and beyond the law. I wouldn’t be surprised at all, in fact I may expect it, if the NFL issues a one-week suspension of both Williams’ just because of this fiasco.

Sickening. Let’s sue.

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by Andersklasen on Oct 30, 2008 9:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Star Cap breaking federal law
Thankfully, many (if not most) of our readers are smarter than us. A couple of them pointed out that the manufacturers of StarCaps are facing huge potential problems if (as has been reported as early as last November) that StarCaps contains Bumetanide.

Bumetanide is an FDA-regulated drug, which cannot be dispensed without a prescription. So, basically, the folks selling StarCaps on an over-the-counter basis were (if Bumetanide is in StarCaps) blatantly violating federal law. – PFT

This is probably why Bumetanide wasn’t on the label and hopefully presents itself as a legitimate out for the NFL, saying the product was spiked and that is no fault of the player.

(Probably just wishful thinking.)

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by Luft Krigare on Oct 31, 2008 6:05 AM CDT reply actions  

I must have missed the memo but ...

I’m an American therefore it’s not my fault I am just a victim. Let’s not forget Roids are used for recovery i.e. baseball pitchers use. Look you don’t get to be 350 + lbs by just eating Mom’s cooking people.

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by Village Viking on Oct 31, 2008 12:31 PM CDT reply actions  

I still dont

understand why NFL players take any supplements that haven’t been approved by the NFL. They are facing the loss of hundreds of thousands of dollars because they idiotically take shady supplements. I have little sympathy for the Williams, it just pisses me off that their stupidity will cost the vikings.

by vikedawg on Oct 31, 2008 9:49 PM CDT reply actions  

i dont think they knew they were doing it, it wasn’t of their intentions to take that drug, it wasn’t on the ingredient list… well that’s how i understand it atleast…

What up?

by snakethejake on Oct 31, 2008 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

that they didn’t know that they were taking the drug, but starcaps aren’t a NFL approved supplement. I don’t really have a solution to the supplement problem in the NFL, but I imagine if you are taking a supplement on the NFL approved list and it turns out to contain a banned substance I don’t see how they can punish you.

by vikedawg on Nov 1, 2008 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Like I said they were victims

Poor ole Bad Brad going have to get his ream to play with emotion – something he cannot install.

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by Village Viking on Nov 1, 2008 2:06 PM CDT reply actions  

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