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Vikings/Saints: When "Deserving to Win" Just Isn't Enough

Last night's game between the Saints and the Vikings was nothing short of an emotional roller coaster from start to finish for we Purple faithful.  It started with Drew Brees shredding the Vikings' defense on the Saints' first drive, followed by the first blocked field goal returned for a touchdown in Vikings' regular season history (the Vikings had accomplished the feat once in the post-season).

We then had Antoine Winfield destroying Drew Brees in almost exactly the same way he crushed Jake Delhomme in Week 3, followed by what I like to call a "morning after" touchdown pass from Chester Taylor to Visanthe Shiancoe. . .it was beautiful at the time, but after some time to look back, damn, it was ugly.

Then, the Vikings seemed determined to turn the second half into the Reggie Bush show, and they succeeded for a time, letting Mr. Kim Kardashian return two punts for touchdowns to give the Saints the lead, and you got that same feeling in your stomach that we Viking fans know all too well.  That feeling of "we've played pretty well thus far, and now we're at the point where everything comes apart at the seams."  It seemed like 1-4 was inevitable.

And, then. . .something weird happened.

Star-divide

Just a few snaps after having to sit out for a play after Saints' DE Will Smith decided to get a little too jiggy with him, Gus Frerotte dropped back to pass on 3rd and 16 from the New Orleans 33.  He stood in the pocket, waited, and lofted one down the center of the field for Aundrae Allison.

Or was it for Bernard Berrian?

As the ball hung up in the air for what seemed like minutes rather than seconds, #84 and #87 were streaking toward each other, with Berrian coming from the left side of the formation and Allison from the right.  The ball came closer to Earth. . .Berrian ran into Allison. . .both Vikings fell to the ground. . .and when the field turf settled, Berrian was holding onto the ball in the end zone, and the Vikings were a Ryan Longwell extra point away from tying the ball game.

But there was more.

Drew Brees brought the Saints back out onto the field and, thanks in large part to a 41-yard pass to Billy Miller that ended with a hit that's going to make Cedric Griffin's wallet a little lighter, had driven New Orleans to the Minnesota 28-yard line, where they brought in Martin Gramatica to attempt to take the lead back..  Gramatica had made two previous field goals, and had the aforementioned kick that was blocked by Fred Evans and returned for a score by Antoine Winfield.  To steal a line from Paul Allen. . .Gramatica couldn't miss from there, could he?

But miss it, he did.  And the Vikings took over with 1:59 left on the clock.  The Saints then thought they'd do the Vikings one more favor, because on a 3rd and 3, Saints safety Kevin Kaesviharn thought it would be a good idea to tackle Bernard Berrian on a deep pass attempt by Frerotte.  Of course, he made that decision while the ball was still travelling in Berrian's direction, which is pass interference, and the 42-yard penalty gave the Vikings the ball on the New Orleans 14-yard line.  Ryan Longwell tacked on the game winning field goal, a desperation heave by Brees was intercepted by Tyrell Johnson, and the Vikings escaped from New Orleans with a season-saving victory.

Strangely, when I got home from work today and turned on ESPN's Pardon the Interruption, and one of the topics du jour was, and I quote, "Did the Vikings Win or Did the Saints Lose?"

Yes, apparently the Saints "lost" a game that they trailed 20-10 at halftime and 20-17 after three quarters.  Weird how that happens.  They were, apparently, somehow more deserving of a win than Minnesota.  I, personally, fail to comprehend this.

I understand that the guys in the ESPN booth last night were totally in love with Reggie Bush. . .and, granted, last night Bush gave them good reason to be.  But the Saints are one of the top offenses in football, and here's the result of their actual offensive possessions. . .not counting punt returns. . .after scoring a touchdown on their opening drive:

Blocked Field Goal
Field Goal
Fumble
Fumble
Interception
Punt
Punt
Field Goal
Missed Field Goal
Interception

As the Vikings have learned incredibly well over the course of the Brad Childress era. . .more often than not, one offensive touchdown isn't going to get the job done.  And turning the ball over four times, a couple of which were deep inside Vikings' territory, sure as hell isn't going to get it done, either.

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Now, as you've no doubt heard, some people have had a bit to say about last night's officiating, and in particular the play pictured above.  Reggie Bush fumbled the ball away on this play and halted a Saints drive that had reached Vikings territory.  The Saints, for "some reason," felt compelled to place this on the main page of the team website.

I'm going to say this as a fan of the team that's gotten bent over the proverbial table by the referees of the NFL on a regular basis ever since Drew Pearson pushed off.  Yeah, the Saints got screwed on that call.  But the way Sean Payton handled it last night and the Saints putting this picture on their website is a little bit much.

The Vikings, I'm sure, had the means of putting a couple of similar pictures on their website at a couple of points this season.  But I don't recall them putting up a picture of the Colts' Joseph Addai NOT getting into the end zone against the Vikings and being awarded a touchdown anyway, or of the officials in the Tennessee game spotting Justin Gage's 4th and 1 reception a full yard and a half further downfield than where Gage actually got to.  Yeah, there was some questionable officiating in last night's game.  But, as I've heard fans of opposing teams say so many times, referees don't lose football games.  Football players and football coaches lose football games.

The New Orleans Saints didn't "give away" last night's game. . .the Minnesota Vikings took it from them.  And they did it by showing more heart and more guts than they have in any other game of the Brad Childress era.  If I would have told you on Monday afternoon that Adrian Peterson was going to get 32 yards rushing on 21 carries and the Vikings would win anyway, you would have thought me completely insane.  But that's what happened.

We had our first 100-yard receiver since. . .of all people. . .Troy Williamson accomplished the feat in Brad Childress' second game as Vikings' head coach against the Carolina Panthers back in 2006.  Bernard Berrian finally showed some flashes of being worth his big paycheck, grabbing six balls for 110 yards and a touchdown.

As mentioned, we had the first blocked field goal returned for a touchdown in Vikings' regular season history, and the second one in Viking history overall.  The other came in the 1976 NFC Championship game against the (then) Los Angeles Rams, as Nate Allen blocked a FG attempt by Tom Dempsey, and Bobby Bryant returned it 99 yards for a Minnesota touchdown.

And, most importantly, we got to take our season off of life support.  We currently sit just one game behind the Bears in the division, and tied with the Packers (who, contrary to what many of their fans seem to believe, did NOT clinch the NFC North with their lucky victory in Week 1).  We get to host the Lions this week, and then a matchup with Da Bears going into the bye week.  Hopefully we can get into the bye at 4-3 and still in the thick of the division race, if not outright leading it.  With the strength of the NFC East, there aren't going to be any wild card teams coming from this division, so it's NFC North championship or bust.

Thanks to the good folks at Canal Street Chronicles for being fine SBNeighbors this past week, and that's going to conclude things for tonight.  Have a good one, folks, and we'll be back tomorrow with more!

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Great Post

I agree with you 100 percent. How can you say the saints should have won when they turned the ball over four times!? That was oppurtunistic play by the Vikes. How many TOs did we have? zero. That does a bit to win football games. If anything, I would say the Saints are lucky for getting three chances for Reggie Bush to return a punt. That was, in my opinion, all on Kluwe.

by skiumah06 on Oct 7, 2008 8:44 PM CDT   0 recs

OMG!!! OMG!!! lol

“The New Orleans Saints didn’t "give away” last night’s game. . .the Minnesota Vikings took it from them." THANK YOU JESUS!!! FINALLY mr. Gonzo him self is the first person to make sense today! ALL the b.s we heard last night, omg, those three in the booth were killing me! GIVE US SOME F***IN CREDIT!!! We beat the #1 pass offense, the #1 PASS O!!! We didn’t get lucky, the saints didn’t get cheated… “They were, apparently, somehow more deserving of a win than Minnesota. I, personally, fail to comprehend this.” You say it right there!

Maybe your niave or plain out crazy Gonzo but i’m right there with you!!! I loved every second of how we won that game. IT was so UN-viking like of us!

“And, then. . .something weird happened.” We went out, down by 7 and went for the kill! The Vikings won this game and our Defense was amazing! I can’t believe they gave New Orleans so much credit… 2 Punt returns!!! WTF!

Thank you gonzo for rockin the house with that post!

by Macdaddy4508 on Oct 8, 2008 12:12 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

really?
We had our first 100-yard receiver since. . .of all people. . .Troy Williamson accomplished the feat in Brad Childress’ second game as Vikings’ head coach against the Carolina Panthers back in 2006. Bernard Berrian finally showed some flashes of being worth his big paycheck, grabbing six balls for 110 yards and a touchdown.

wow, that stat is very depressing

by DedicatedFollowerOfFashion on Oct 7, 2008 9:05 PM CDT   0 recs

I don't get all the attention the facemask play is receiving.

Sure, the Saints got screwed. But it wouldn’t have changed the possession, would it have? Last time I checked, referees do not stop a play as soon as a facemask flag flies onto the field. They let the play continue, then dish out the penalty accordingly.

In this situation, the Vikings would still have the ball, albeit 15 yards back from they actually got it. The facemask happenedbefore the fumble. If it had been called the ball would still be the Vikings.

Someone please correct me if I’m wrong, because I do not understand why the Saints are clinging to this play for their lives.

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by Andersklasen on Oct 7, 2008 9:18 PM CDT   0 recs

It would negate the play

Since the penalty happened before the change of possesion, I believe that if the facemask had been called, the play would have been negated, a 15 yeard penatly enforced, and the Saints would retain possesion of the ball. As mentioned several times, getting the shaft from the refs gets passed to all teams at some point and we certainly have gotten our share. As for the impact of this one, did we even score off that turnover? I don’t remember.

by VikesSince85 on Oct 7, 2008 9:55 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

In the second quarter, from ESPN
(9:26) C.Kluwe punts 30 yards to NO 13, Center-C.Loeffler, fair catch by L.Moore.

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by Andersklasen on Oct 7, 2008 10:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

As Seen On TV...

I watched a show on New Orleans TV before the game give an explanation of how, if the Saints could stop Peterson, that Brees was so incredible this year that the Saints would then beat the Vikings, who were alleged to have a weak pass defense. They seemed somewhat concerned about their defense against us, but since their defense had stopped AD, the good citizens of The Big Easy were somehow deluded into thinking they won, or at least deserved to win. I guess the Vikings are not actually as one dimensional as the many pundits would have had them believe. Maybe football is not as simple or easy as it looks on TV.

by Elgar on Oct 7, 2008 10:36 PM CDT   0 recs

Saints Point of View

I can see how Saints fans want to find solace in saying they gave the game away. All their penalties and turnovers could give that appearance. But guess what? Penalties happen and turnovers count! As Vikings fans, we know that all too well.

For the first time in a very long time, the Vikings did what they had to do when they needed to do it. I always find myself saying, “Well, this is where a good team has a long drive and puts the game away,” or “This is where a good team forces a turnover or 3 and out.” On Monday night, for the most part, the Vikings were that good team.

Hope springs eternal in the land of the mighty purple!!!!!

by JasonAve6413 on Oct 8, 2008 7:23 AM CDT   0 recs

Just might be what we need!

A win like this, just might be what we need to get rolling. With everything that happened in that game, from punt returns to lucky catches and calls, it could be just enough to fire this team up for a run.

Lets hope so.

(closed circut to Brad Childress. Put Winfield on special teams!!!)

by RileysCannibalJct on Oct 8, 2008 8:39 AM CDT   0 recs

saints fan response

I agree mistakes happen.
I agree we played like crap and didn’t DESERVE to win; no team deserves anything other then a fair playing field.

It didn’t seem we had that on Monday.

The face mask was a very hard pill to swallow. The fumble happened BECAUSE of the face mask, call the facemask, no fumble we get at least 3 points… umm no our kicker is crap we have a VERY good chance of 3 pts or 7 points. Your team rarely stopped us. We had a grand total of TWO punts the entire game.

The reason the non-call on the facemask really really got under my skin was the very next play. A ball bounces off the ground and it is ruled a catch. We have to throw a flag to get the proper call. So two plays in a row it seemed the officials decided to help the Vikings. I know that that is not true. But put yourself in my position and tell me. If you saw not one… but two plays in a row where the refs made horrible wrong calls… would you not be absolutely lived? Would your head be in the “right place”? Now add in a couple offensive forward motion calls that the whistle only went after we had gotten to the quarterback. If your team is offside, why do we time to get to the QB BEFORE the whistle goes?

The facemask we are “whining” about is just one of the horrible calls that game. There were some on both sides of the field but I feel that the ones against the Saints were more game changing.

Now add to it our loss to Denver where the defense had the player that made the game winning tackle to stop us a good yard offside.

We are upset we lost the game. Every fan is upset when their team loses a game, even Detroit fans (though they except it easier). We are more upset that the officials are making so many game changing mistakes this year.

I really hope we get to play you again this year. I was born in Minn and while I cheer for the Saints, I will always have a soft spot in my heart for the Vikings.

MT

by MT_always on Oct 8, 2008 9:23 AM CDT   0 recs

It’s not like his helmet turned, and then he dropped the ball… the ball still got knocked out of his hand by a defense that was OBVIOUSLY going for the strip all night long. To blame the fumble STRICTLY on the facemask is being naive.

I love this game because it completely wraps us up emotionally. I love that emotion.

V-I-K-I-N-G-S! Skol Vikings, Let's Go!!

by TheViking83 on Oct 8, 2008 10:48 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

For the most part

I agree. I was sitting there watching the game when another Viking fan came in late. I remember telling him “if I were a Saint’s fan I’d be upset.” I think the officials were awful for both sides, but I know if all the calls were reversed I’d be calling for the heads of the officials. Either way that happens; some games you get the calls and some games you don’t. We’re seeing the officiating through a purple lens and you’re seeing it through a gold lens. And those homer goggles will make both sides see things completely different.

"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." - - Earl Weaver

by Gorilla Bird on Oct 8, 2008 11:25 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Gonzo..I luv ya

DE Will Smith did get jiggy wit Gus Freotte on that hit….Gonzo your hilarious man….I love your page

by Supabad1edy on Oct 8, 2008 12:45 PM CDT   0 recs

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