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Looking at the NFC North the Rest of the Way

Well, folks, with 6 games left in the 2008 NFL season, there are three teams at the top of the division with identical 5-5 records.  It should make for an interesting rest of the regular season, but what are all three of these teams looking at during the rest of the year?  Let's take a closer look at the schedules for each of these three teams, as well as what they've done to this point in the year.

Here's how each of the three teams involved in the NFC North race have gotten to their current 5-5 record.

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Vikings wins - vs. Carolina, @ New Orleans, vs. Detroit, vs. Houston, vs. Green Bay
Vikings losses - @ Green Bay, vs. Indianapolis, @ Tennessee, @ Chicago, @ Tampa Bay
Vikings current divisional record - 2-2
Vikings current conference record - 4-3

Bears wins - @ Indianapolis, vs. Philadelphia, @ Detroit, vs. Minnesota, vs. Detroit
Bears losses - @ Carolina, vs. Tampa Bay, @ Atlanta, vs. Tennessee, @ Green Bay
Bears current divisional record - 3-1
Bears current conference record - 4-4

Packers wins - vs. Minnesota, @ Detroit, @ Seattle, vs. Indianapolis, vs. Chicago
Packers losses - vs. Dallas, @ Tampa Bay, vs. Atlanta, @ Tennessee, @ Minnesota
Packers current divisional record - 3-1
Packers current conference record - 4-4

That's how we've gotten here. . .now, let's take a look at where we're going.

Chicago Green Bay Minnesota
Week 12 @ St. Louis (2-8)
@ New Orleans (5-5)
@ Jacksonville (4-6)
Week 13 @ Minnesota (5-5)
vs. Carolina (8-2)
vs. Chicago (5-5)
Week 14 vs. Jacksonville (4-6)
vs. Houston (3-7)
@ Detroit (0-10)
Week 15 vs. New Orleans (5-5)
@ Jacksonville (4-6)
@ Arizona (7-3)
Week 16 vs. Green Bay (5-5)
@ Chicago (5-5)
vs. Atlanta (6-4)
Week 17 @ Houston (3-7)
vs. Detroit (0-10)
vs. New York Giants (9-1)

So, there you go.  Minnesota has one more conference game remaining than either Chicago or Green Bay does, but it appears that the Vikings the toughest remaining schedule at this point by a fairly significant margin.  The last three weeks of the season for the Beloved Purple look fairly brutal, as they have to face three consecutive teams with records of .500 or better. . .Chicago has NO teams on their schedule with records better than .500, and Green Bay only has one at this point.  Green Bay and Minnesota also each have the added advantage of another game against the Lions, whereas the Bears have already played both of their games against Detroit.

That SHOULD be an advantage, anyway.  The Lions have a chance to be 0-12 when the Vikings travel to Ford Field in December. . .and everyone remembers what happened the last time the Vikings travelled to Detroit to take on an 0-12 Detroit team. . .don't they?

In any event, it should be an interesting final six weeks.  Unless the Williams Wall gets suspended for any length of time.  If that happens, well, just pretend that this entire post never happened.

What do you folks out there see happening the rest of the way?  Can the Vikings pull this thing out, or should we start looking forward to 2009?

Hopefully you're enjoying your Monday thus far. . .we'll see you back here later on for more!

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With Gus playing like the 50 yr old

journeyman that he is and Chilly’s ineptitude as a coach, I don’t think it matters much who we play.

This team needs a QB in the worst way! The ass kicker of the whole deal is I don’t see how we’re going to get one anytime soon. Frerotte is just not very good. TJack is still a complete unknown and we won’t be picking in the draft low enough to get one of the blue chippers, so unless we strike gold and draft the next Tom Brady or JD Booty morphs into a NFL QB soon, we are in a tough spot.

VikeGuru is a doofus!!

by Unclebillybonz on Nov 17, 2008 7:37 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

It's safe to say...

It’s fairly safe to say that it’s going to take 10 wins to make it to the playoffs, which means winning five of our last six. As the schedule shows, that’s going to be tough. I think we can take down the Jaguars and I’m pretty sure we’ll beat Chicago (it’s hard to sweep a division rival), but that leaves those final three games. Winning two of the three is going to be tough.

What we have to do is hope the Giants keep winning so that they’ll take Brandon Jacobs out by or before halftime and put the bomb squaders in after that to rest their starters for the playoffs. The Giants, and Jacobs especially, are men among boys right now. I do not want them fighting for a playoff spot. Assuming they rest their starters, that leaves Arizona and Atlanta.

Of the two, Atlanta seems the game we have a much better shot at. Arizona and Kurt Warner will toast our secondary unless we can get insane pressure on Warner. Atlanta is going to be a hard one to win as well, but (assuming their not suspended) the Williams Bros. and our defensive line should hold Michael Turner down and we can hopefully rattle the (not-so) rookie QB enough for him to make some mistakes.

I don’t feel real good about the way things are going right now. I hope the Vikes prove me wrong, but I don’t see much more than an 8-8 season right now.

Come on, Vikings! I believe in you!

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by Manimal on Nov 17, 2008 8:03 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

unfortunately

I think are chances are pretty bleak. I was going effin crazy watching garcia run wild behind the line and than having to watch our statue just standing there taking hits/sacks.

If we don’t beat the Jags it is time IMO to re-evaluate the TJ expirement so that we know about next year……….#%^#$% does it suck to have to be thinking about next year already $##%^

by vikeincheeseland on Nov 17, 2008 8:35 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Update on the suspensions

Taken from:

“The NFL will conduct hearings Monday and Tuesday for the bulk of eight pending cases of players who tested for banned supplements under the league’s steroid and performance-enhancement policy, according to sources.”

“If they are denied their appeal, the players will be suspended for four games. After their hearings, both sides will file briefs and a decision is expected within the next 10 to 14 days.”

by Robert Rence on Nov 17, 2008 9:26 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I can see us winning the division.

Of course nothing actually ever works out exactly like this and this is all based on the assumption we have our D-Line intact.

Chi. 5-5 :
@ St. Louis (2-8) Rams look terrible. W 6-5
@ Minnesota (5-5) This will be a must win for the vikes. L 6-6
vs. Jacksonville (4-6)
                                         Chi WILL lose one of these games W&L 7-7
vs. New Orleans (5-5)
vs. Green Bay (5-5) Green Bay gets the nod here. 7-8
@ Houston (3-7) Chi Wins, maybe. 8-8

GB 5-5:
@ New Orleans (5-5) On the home turf, must win for the saints, return of Bush. L 5-6
vs. Carolina (8-2) The two-headed rushing attack too much for GB L 5-7
vs. Houston (3-7) Houstons done. W 6-7
@ Jacksonville (4-6) On the road vs another tough rushing attack. L 6-8
@ Chicago (5-5) GB gets the nod here. W 7-8
vs. Detroit (0-10) Haha W 8-8

Purpletown 5-5

@ Jacksonville (4-6) This is a big game. We can stop their run. W 6-5
vs. Chicago (5-5) Another big game, at home. W 7-5
@ Detroit (0-10) PLEASE Don’t lose this game PLEASE W 8-5
@ Arizona (7-3) This may be an ugly one. L 8-6
vs. Atlanta (6-4) This one could go either way. W 9-6
vs. New York Giants (9-1) NY decides to play starters anyway. L 9-7
 
We could also lose the Jacksonville game and win the NY game at the end if the Giants do rest the stars.

Chi 8-8, GB 8-8, MN 9-7 Division champions!

Its possible.

by footballninja on Nov 17, 2008 9:51 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

William boys hearing

Chris Mortenson reported yesterday that the hearing for our big boys was scheduled for Tuesday of this week. He also said not to be hopeful that the hearing would go in favor of the athletes as a point of emphasis with players and trainers had been if you use diuretics you will be suspended 4 games. Team were given posters to put up in the locker room with this same message. Because of this he was reporting that more than likely the players will be supsended with a week or 2 of the hearing. Unfortuantely this will probably give Zygii and exuse to keep Childress on for another year because all chance of wining at the end of the year was lost without these 2 players – no fault of Childress. Oh well – this organization is not quite as dysfunctional as the T-Wolves.

by linda t on Nov 17, 2008 10:55 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

No, to be honest, I don’t think we’re taking the NFC North this season. And I hate to say it, but I have complete confidence it will be, once again, the Packers residing on top. The only good thing I can say is that I hope we lose enough games from here on out to get a high draft pick and we nab the next Matt Ryan QB who can step in and do well as a rookie.

by Frost on Nov 17, 2008 12:40 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

This sucks!

I agree in that in won’t be much better than 8-8 for this year and even worse if the William’s get suspended.

Heres the good news. As President Obama would say, “Change is on the way!” I don’t see Childress surviving this joke.

So the question becomes, who do we bring in as a coach? Who do we bring in for a quarterback? We also need to replace McKinnie and Ryan Cook. What a joke!!!

One touch for Peterson in the 4th quarter. Are you kidding me???

by marksa on Nov 17, 2008 1:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

hey! let’s go in a shotgun formation on 3rd and 2 after it didn’t work on 2nd and 2 and we have adrian peterson. No way we finish better than 8-8, can’t they just fire him now?

What up?

by snakethejake on Nov 17, 2008 2:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I wonder...

I wonder if the Lions have the game at the Metrodome circled on their calenders. I would probably cry like a baby if it happened, but am I the only one who is scared for this game? I really don’t want the Lions first win to come against us.

Anyone else? Or is it just me?

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by Manimal on Nov 17, 2008 3:46 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

It's not just you, Manimal.

I said it before the last Lions game, and I’ll say it again: The Vikings lose those kind of games easily.

I’m not scared. I’m mortified.

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by Andersklasen on Nov 17, 2008 5:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm confident we will win.

My preseason prediction for the Lions games were a close first game and a blowout second game. I still stand by that.

In AP I trust

by FarvaForTheVikings on Nov 17, 2008 10:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

7-9

I don’t see the Vikings doing better than 7 – 9. The QB sucks and the team that was ‘built to win’ just doesn’t know how. Each week they find a new way to lose. Any confidence I had in the team going in is gone. Right now I would rather they be 0 – 10 or 1-9 than 5-5 and tied for first. Ferrotte is not the answer, and I knew that going in, but the powers that be felt that T-Jack was not going to get it done either. But now we have to stick with Ferrotte to the end, and then go into the offseason with no real clue on T-Jack. It would be better if he were able to play the last 6 games to see what he can do. That way we would at least know if we should trade up for a QB. I don’t see any chance of being better next year unless Childress gets fired and we can pick up a QB, but where?

by llajoy on Nov 17, 2008 5:02 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

This sucks!

I wonder if Matt Cassell would be worth a try?

by marksa on Nov 17, 2008 5:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Going to be a tough next 6 weeks

But just watch the Pack and bears and hope they lose when we do.It was the fumbles that killed us in Tampa and our hurry up offense is slower then a hot water drip.If the Wall and Jared gets suspended,4 weeks for the Wall and prolly 3 to 4 for Jared could be a shot season.Might be time throw Booty and T.J. back in at least so we can see who to keep as 3rd stringer.Try keep AP and Taylor healthy and see if there is anybody that can take on S.T. duties for next year.If those 3 get suspended its time kick Chilly in his non KOA ASS and start preparing for a new coach.

by speedlod on Nov 17, 2008 8:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I believe he is.

I believe Matt Cassel is a great player and should be the Vikings next starting QB.

I’ve wrote as such before. Thought he was the way to go since week three. Hope the Vikings agree with me.

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by Manimal on Nov 17, 2008 9:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No Killer Instinct

This team does not know how to win big, and I think it’s a reflection of their coaching.

Just once I would like to see them jump out to a big lead, and then hold it throughout the game.

They are going to need to jump out to a big lead this weekend, because they are going to be dealing with the same conditions weather wise, as they did this past Sunday. If it’s close at halftime, expect the same result. I know this story is probably getting redundant from me, but I feel like it’s a big factor.

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by BaldViking on Nov 17, 2008 8:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

When I hear killer instinct

I think last years Patriots with all their “eff you” tds. How much fun would it be if we had that kind of killer instinct and over BAness? Who cares if everyone else hates us.

I’m so jealous. I want a healthy Tom Brady on the Vikings.

In AP I trust

by FarvaForTheVikings on Nov 17, 2008 10:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

don't be so negative

alright guys. . lets not give up on the season, yet. I mean were still tied in first place aren’t we? its not over until the fat lady sings. . moreover, according to Kevin Seifert from ESPN. . if Kevin and Pat williams appeal hearing isn’t until the end of the week, then there is a very good chance that they play against jacksonville. . . if we beat jacksonville, chicago, atlanta and the lions. .then there is an excellent chance we will be in the play offs.
stop being so negative . . especially when we are right in it. . all we need is to win the next two and everything will fall into place. . knock on wood

by vikingfromkuwait on Nov 18, 2008 12:23 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

wait im confused… why is JA getting suspended…is it because of the matt schaub hits

AP's record day, 296 in a single game.

by da2213viking on Nov 18, 2008 2:32 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

No

It’s because of his hit on the flaming wussbag that is Aaron Rodgers.

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by Gonzo on Nov 18, 2008 4:02 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

which hit was that?

I don’t remember hearing anything about Allen and Rodgers.

And Aaron Rodgers is not a “flaming wussbag”; if the guy can play with a separated throwing shoulder, he should at least not have to suffer the “flaming” part.

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by Mitchell_M on Nov 18, 2008 7:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wasn't it due...

Wasn’t it because of the consecuative weeks of supposed “dirty” hits on Shauby followed by Rodgers?

A sort of, “conduct hearing” because of his streak of hits on QBs?

That’s the impression I was under.

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by Manimal on Nov 18, 2008 7:58 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Whatever The Reason...

He’s being penalized for playing aggressively, which if I’m not mistaken, is the nature of football.

Roger Goodell needs to be relax a bit on this or else soon, all uniforms in the NFL will contain the color pink.

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by BaldViking on Nov 18, 2008 9:26 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Tylerrrrrrrr

Is it just me or does this name just keep ringing in my ear. Who was the genious to just let this kid go without giving him a chance. Sorry, but T-Jax would have been there at round 6 and he gets every chance in the world and fails. What if Thig would have gotten half those looks and reps. No, Chilly has to play T-jax to prove he was worth a #2 pick. Hey Klink! Don’t you think how much better it would make you look if you would have given Tyler, a #7 pick, the chance and put up the numbers for us that he is putting up for a lousy Chiefs team?
Bottom line. QB would not be a big issue right now.
There were lots of purple people at the game down here. Once again we don’t get a chance to rub it in the Bucs fans face.

by CitrusFLViking on Nov 18, 2008 12:03 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Actually, Jackson really hasn’t gotten much of a chance this season. He had two games with limited playcalling. And if you’re talking about last season, I suppose that Bollinger and Holcomb looked better in practice than Thigpen. Besides, its not like he cut the guy. Childress was trying to keep him. And, honestly, who expected a 6th round QB to be snatched off waivers?

That said, hindsight is 20/20, and I wish we HAD kept him and cut Bollinger instead.

by Frost on Nov 19, 2008 9:15 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Bald is right/Name the teams contest

Sorry to break topic with Tyler stuff-a reoccuring nightmare.
The Vikings are a defense that needed a smackdown attitude. When we get it from a few guys we are punished. Is this Roger Goodie Boy’s new way of playing to the major market teams? Surely the Giants have had to have some questionable hits. Even the Jets had some good defensive games this season.
This is getting stupid. How bout we hve a contest and rename some NFL (National Fluffy League) franchises.
Taking a cue from bald, I’ll start with The Pink Panthers
That was easy but I know you guys will come up with something far more original. In the meantme I’ll sleep on it

by CitrusFLViking on Nov 18, 2008 6:42 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Good point Frost

It was that we obviously saw something in him. Yes, hind sight is 20/20 but everytime I see him play for KC it is like “You drafted him because you saw something. Now he’s playing some top notch football elsewhere.”
It’s the course this season has taken, Frosty. The “what ifs” are really starting to come out.

by CitrusFLViking on Nov 19, 2008 1:46 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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