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Matt Cassel (& T-Jack)

So, when his contract expires at the end of the season, do we take him?  And, at what price?  And, where do we stand with T-Jack?

Man, with Gus stinking as bad as any Vikings quarterback since a raw rookie subbed in for a depressive Brad Johnson a few years ago, my Christmas wish would be to see T-Jack finish the season out for us. 

Gus is second from the bottom of the NFL in total interceptions (this, after not having played in two full games!).  He'd lead the league in under thrown balls if there were such a category.  He's overall rating is 26th in the league, and this doesn't take into account his burgeoning sack count.  And, he can't throw a reliable ball more than three yards down field.

I feel like Cassel will be a real option, and yet I'd love to have an exact sense of where we stand with T-Jack going into the offseason.  In fact, I'd take clarity on T-Jack, despite:

a) whatever losses he might cost us (which, I strongly feel, would not put us in any more jeopardy than we are already in with Gus); and

b) the possibility that (in the best case scenario, if with Gus we are ever so slightly more competitive) we finish at best as the worst rated divisional champ, losing in the first round to any number of much better wild card teams.

Give me T-Jack.  Give me clarity.  And, maybe, just maybe, give me Matt Cassel this offseason.

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I still want Byron leftwich if hes available

and not to mention analyst actually think for some unbelievable reason that the pats would be more well suited to trade Mr. 12. could you imagine? the free agency market would melt. So there could be no cassel. leftwich will likely be released i hope and would be an awesome adition

purple is the color of royalty

by da2213viking on Nov 25, 2008 8:49 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

leftwitch?

over rated injury prone, under achieving non mobile qb. i hope not.

wyohonky

by wyohonky on Nov 28, 2008 9:27 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sorry...

but no, we’ll just sign another washed up has-been, (or never-was) and suffer through another year of mediocre quarterback play.

by thewild_viking_twins on Nov 25, 2008 8:57 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Three things

1) Matt Cassel is most likely going to be resigned by New England, even if Tom Brady recovers. If Brady gets re-injured, which is pretty likely due to the nature of the injury, they will need someone to fall back on. Cassel is doing well enough to insure himself a spot as a backup & starter, if needed. I’m sure they will pay him megabucks.

2) Tarvaris Jackson, I fully believe, could play his ass off if he wasn’t running for his life most of the time.

3) I also believe that if Tarvaris had the receivers that other teams have (Denver, New Orleans), and we didn’t have to rely solely on Mr. Adrian Peterson to get things going, he would be putting up much better numbers.

-He needs more time in the pocket, to focus.

-He needs receiver options downfield (noted: Shiancoe is turning into a Jeremy Shockey/Tony Gonzalez, which I am fu$*#^g PUMPED about).

-He needs one good game that is focused purely on the passing game, to come out and destroy the opponents and build confidence (in himself, and the fans).

by AustinVike on Nov 25, 2008 9:11 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

On thing #1

They drafted Kevin O’Connell in the 3rd round this year (my favorite QB in last years draft) and I am willing to bet that they will feel alright letting Cassel go and do his thing in free agency while doing everything they can to get O’Connell ready to back up Brady.
Plus in order to resign Cassel, they would have to give up significant money that IMO they would use to sign other free agents/extent other contracts rather than pay Cassel just to keep him off the open market. Using a transition/franchise tag is an option(for a QB that would be about a $8 – 10 million), but again alot of money to be paying someone just to be a back up.

by vikingfuture8816 on Nov 25, 2008 9:34 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My guess is...

They’ll apply the franchise tag to him. Then some poor team looking for a QB (hey like us) will be wiling to part with the first and third rounder for him. And, of course, he won’t do as well because he won’t have Randy Moss and Wes Welker to catch his throws.

I agree with the original poster though. I want to see what Jackson is capable of. Gus has been okay in leading us to the victories, but alot of the wins, and most of the losses, are closer than they had to be.

by Frost on Nov 25, 2008 10:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am also in the Tjack club.

Always was, although after a few games I thought the switch to Gus was the right one. Now… not so much.

In AP I trust

by FarvaForTheVikings on Nov 25, 2008 10:47 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i have been rooting for gus to get hurt for the past 3 weeks

i keep getting my wish, but keep getting shut down! i want t-jack in so much right now

everything Rays,Marlins,Twins and Reds

by RaysOfHope on Nov 26, 2008 11:39 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no no jacko

i’ve said it a thousand times, jacko never had it and never will. he has a cannon arm and he can run but he doesn’t make good reads, he takes off running too quickly and has no touch on the deep ball. you can teach reads and progressions but you either have touch or you don’t. he doesn’t have it. frerrote needs to go, i 100% agree w/ that. jacko is a decent #2 qb, he could come in if needed and possibly win a game or two or at least not lose them but as a full time starter i would put him in the bottom 10 qb’s in the league. i like cassel somewhat but he doesn’t throw the deep ball well at all. even w/ moss. he has come on lately but his accuracy on balls over 20 yards is very poor. he would be a serious improvement over what we have right now. ( thanks again childress) i don’t know who would be the best fit for our team, i do know that what we have now won’t cut it. any idea’s?

wyohonky

by wyohonky on Nov 28, 2008 9:36 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Applying the Franchise Tag

would mean they have to pay him about $13 million (what ever the avg of the top 5 QBs make and that is a lot) and then they would have to hope some team thinks he is worth the 1st rounder. That would be a lot to risk paying a back up in hoping that someone offers a 1st rounder and I just don’t see that happening.

by vikingfuture8816 on Nov 26, 2008 7:53 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

IDK

Ya idk about that, New England has been known for letting people go when they want more money, so who knows what they’ll do about Cassell

by Skol Vikes on Nov 29, 2008 3:10 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I completely disagree

T-Jack has repeatedly shown us that he doesn’t know how to look past ten yards down the field and read the defense. He simply has no idea how to get the ball downfield and stretch the D. I cannot believe there are people that still want to give him yet another chance! Do you not remember what the games against the Packers and Colts looked like? And don’t give me that crap about Chilly not opening up the offense.

The bottom line is that T-Jack will not get it done. I think the Vikes need to pursue Cassel or someone else around the league. Is Cassel really going to take big bucks just to be a backup? I don’t think so. The solution for our Vikes at the QB postion is going to come from the outside.

by skiumah06 on Nov 26, 2008 12:38 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmmm...

Running for his life? Our offensive line is pretty good, and we’re not giving up near the sacks we have in the past. Gus does okay; he just holds the ball too long sometimes. A quarterback cannot hold the ball for longer than a few seconds on a seven step drop. Just ask Big Ben over in Steeler country. He holds the ball WAY too long and is getting murdered sacked every other play for it. One of my biggest gripes when listening to commentators talking about the Steelers is them blaming the offensive line all the time for his sacks. Yes, they give up some, but he really holds the ball much, much too long.

Tarvaris has the ability, no doubt, but saying he needs more time in the pocket is just an unrealistic thing to ask of an NFL team. You either can make the reads, or you can’t. And right now, it seems that Tarvaris just can’t do that.

Our receivers, while not on the calibur of the Cardinals or the Patriots, will be getting better every game. Shiancoe, like you mention, is really coming along now, and I’m happy we have him despite my man-crush on Jim Kleinsasser. Berrian will get better. Sidney Rice, when healthy, is a great possession receiver and target near the end zone. We get a solid underneath guy and the Vikings will have really, really good targets for whatever quarterback we have. See my post below for more elaboration on the whole, “receivers-make-the-quarterback” argument.

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by Manimal on Nov 26, 2008 10:42 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oops.

Oops. Tried to be clever and the thing messed up on me. The striked out part should read:

“…sacked every other play for it. One of my biggest gripes when listening to commentators talking about the Steelers is them blaming the offensive line all the time for his sacks. Yes, they give up some, but he really holds the ball much, much too long.”

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by Manimal on Nov 26, 2008 10:43 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OL has underperformed

Honestly, the Vikings have not been very good in pass protection this year. The team is in the 10 worst in terms of sacks allowed, tied with the not-so-mighty Chiefs, and only 1 sack better than the Raiders!

by KC Viking on Nov 27, 2008 1:02 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

NO WAY!!!

After what cassel has done in NE, he’ll bet by the end of this season he’ll have some big offers, STARTING offers that would give him the chance to be the leading role instead of the back up who came in and did great… He’s a stud and if there’s a god, we’ll make a move on him or anyother proven QB.

*Mac45*

by Macdaddy4508 on Nov 29, 2008 11:13 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If our WR core can catch Frerotte's inaccurate passes...

They’d do a much better job with an accurate passer.

T-Jack’s problem appears to be that under pressure, he freezes up in the pocket. Some people can handle pressure, some can’t.

And Frerotte, well, his passes just aren’t on target. Watch the next game and count the amount of passes that the receivers need to stretch for, or slow down for in order to catch.

So yes, pony up for Cassel. Considering what we spent for Allen was more than worth it, I see no reason not to pay the same for Cassel.

by Robert Rence on Nov 25, 2008 11:56 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fan opinions change like the weather....

for the first two weeks, 99% of the fans wanted to throw TJ under the bus….once Childress did that, everyone was happy…..

now Gus has us tied for the Division lead, with a huge game on Sunday night, and people are chirping for TJ back in….

like the one poster said, look back at the Green Bay and Indy games….he doesn’t have it, and never will

as far a Cassell goes, he’s a pure product of a system….take him out of the system, and he’ll flounder….the guy hadn’t started a game since High School for a reason….

I’ll say it once again….this team blew it’s best opportunity for a franchise QB in the spring when they didn’t even cast a glance at Chad Pennington…..we would have been comfortably atop the division, and set at the position for several years….

by Hilton Head viking on Nov 26, 2008 6:14 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This was before Gus threw 3 or 4 picks a game and cost us some victories, or kept teams unnecessarily close. Back then, people saw Frerotte as a game-manager who’d limit mistakes and make the throws to open recievers. To his credit, Jackson never threw that many interceptions against greenbay. Yeah, his last throw in the game was an interception, but Frerotte’s done the exact same thing in another one possession game. In fact, Frerotte has as many interceptions in 9 games as Jackson had all last season.

by Frost on Nov 26, 2008 8:50 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TJACK Had his chance...

…And he blew it. He wasn’t ready. He isn’t ready. He may or may not ever be ready to be a productive NFL QB. Maybe this time behind a vet like gus will help, maybe not.

Like Childress said when TJACK got yanked, he wasn’t making some of the ROUTINE plays. People seem to miss this sometimes, but Gus is making a lot of the routine plays. A team needs this in order to win.

Do you guys remember what it was like when Tjack was starting and the team was facing a 3rd and 10? It was nearly impossible, you knew the only way we had a chance to convert was if Tjack got flushed out of the pocket and could make something happen with his feet. Thats not good.

And now, this team is playing for the division lead and people are calling to yank gus for jackson?? I don’t get it. Gus has kept us competitive in every game this season. If this team starts clicking in all three phases of the game, which I have not seen happen yet, then we have a chance versus any team in any situation with gus as QB.

by footballninja on Nov 26, 2008 7:53 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"Routine Plays"

Isn’t that all Childress Calls?

The last play of the GB game where TJ threw an interception? The dumbass playaction left- rollout right and have 1 receiver 8 yards down the field in triple coverage? Yeah- Gus Gus has thrown 2 interceptions and has been sacked on the same “routine” play that Chilly loves to call.

TJ “hit the hands” at a better clip than Gus has. HIS problem was that players like Shiancoe and Berrian dropped more passes than my Grandma (players that have SINCE then turned a significant corner in their game).

Had his chance and blew it? Games we lost by less than a TD each, due primarily to Chilly’s calling “routine plays”. No, TJ didn’t “have his chance”, he was held back by a stingy playcaller- and was made a scapegoat for a horrendous gameplan.

Playaction plays in a 2-minute drill are not going to fool anybody. ESPECIALLY when the QB rolls right, and there’s only 1 receiver on that whole side of the field.

by DelawareBerserker on Nov 29, 2008 1:53 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cassel

First off, Tarvaris Jackson has the ability, but he’s not developing fast enough. For a long, long time I thought it was 80% Childress’ fault that Jackson wasn’t developing, but after we made the switch to Frerotte, I was proven wrong. Is Gus great? Of course not. But he’s winning.

As I’ve stated numerous times here, and on other blogs *cough*VikingVigil*cough* Matt Cassel, while not taking many shots down the field, can consistently get the ball to the open man in a SPREAD OFFENSE.

An offense of that type requires a quarterback who can not only read defenses, but see what the opposing secondary is doing and make the quick decision in order to get the ball to the uncovered receiver. The Patriots have zero running game right now (or close to) and Matt Cassel has put up huge numbers. Is that partly because of the system? You bet. But could you throw Gus Frerotte in that system and expect the same results? How about Donovan McNabb? Tarvaris Jackson? No. You have to have the ability. Systems can produce great quarterbacks, no doubt, but it also matures the quarterback to have the ability to play the game.

The fact that Cassel hadn’t started a game since high school shouldn’t really that big of a factor anymore. He was behind Carson Palmer and Matt Lienart, both Heisman winners. You can’t fault the guy for that. The idea that he hasn’t played in college is a GOOD thing. It means he’s less beat up, and that he’s picking up the speed of the NFL in such a short time, and thriving, is a testament to his ability to grow and adapt quickly.

Honestly, I don’t see a better option than Matt Cassel. Even if he costs us another first rounder and a bajillion on the cap. With the best running game in the league, a healthy Sidney Rice and a developing Bernard Berrian, the final puzzle piece could currently be leading New England to the playoffs.

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by Manimal on Nov 26, 2008 8:00 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don’t know if he’s as good as he’s playing to be honest. I remember watching him play against Miami last season during a blow out, and I think his second pass was picked off. Clearly he’s improved, but I wonder how much of that can be attributed to A) Wes Welker and Randy, or B) Their terrific O-line and C) Belichick’s master coaching. You have to admit, if you put Belichick and Childress together, they’re miles apart in the coaching department.

Yes, the Allen trade has payed off. But he was a proven commodity in the NFL when we traded for him. This is Matt Cassel’s first season starting. What if he’s not as good without Bellichick there to guide him along? My guess is he’ll definitely see a drop in production if he does go to another team. I’d rather take McNabb over Cassel right now.

by Frost on Nov 26, 2008 8:57 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You were proven wrong?

That’s a tough thing to admit!

… but it has me confused. How does Gus Frerotte being the starter prove that Childress was not 80% at fault for Jackson’s lack of development?

Chilly’s playcalling has sucked all year- but it was by far the worst in the first 2 games. The team was unprepared and I felt it all went back to Training Camp when Chilly gave the team a very easy ride. I’m of the mind if you want a QB to develop- you have to test them under fire. Toss the kitchen sink at ’em and see how he performs. That never happened.

by DelawareBerserker on Nov 29, 2008 2:05 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cassel

If Tarvaris was throwing to Randy Moss and Wes Welker, he’d be the out of nowhere story of 2008.

This should be obvious to every Viking fan. Cassel is nothing without those receivers.

by TMW on Nov 26, 2008 9:29 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I disagree...

Again, he doesn’t just hone in on those two guys. They are, of course, his two main targets, but most of the time there are three, four, five wide receivers on the field. Randy Moss didn’t have 15 catches and Wes Welker didn’t have 20. They each had eight catches in the last game. So that’s 16 of his 30 passes to those two. While over half, that still leaves 14 others to different receivers. On the year, Cassel has 1,000 yards to receivers other than Welker and Moss. And who’s to blame him for giving it to them? They’re really, really good.

Granted, Welker and Moss had the bulk of the yards, he still is spreading the ball around very well. That takes ABILITY. You can’t put Jackson in a spread offense, even with Moss and Welker. Would it make him better? Maybe. But he would not be putting up 400 yards in back to back games.

I’ll keep preaching it: Cassel is adapting to one of the toughest offenses to run in the NFL quickly and making the correct reads. He can adapt and learn another offense, with a running game to help, almost as quickly and make the throws he needs to make.

Cassel has already thrown for more 400 yard games than Tom Brady, and it’s the exact same system. How can you account for that? Tom Brady, while I don’t like the guy, is a really good quarterback. Cassel is doing, right now anyway, at least as good as Brady would be doing at this point in the year. Brady would have undoubtedly started out better, no questioning that, but it’s folly to say that the only reason Matt Cassel is good is because of his receivers and the system. He has good mechanics and he has the ability to read defenses and hit the open man.

Matt Lienart had Anquan Boldin and Larry Fitzgerald and I didn’t see him putting up great numbers, and I think we can all agree that Lienart is a better prospective quarterback than Tarvaris Jackson. Is that what we’re saying is that a quarterback is only as good as the people he throws to? Please. Of course it makes a difference, but it certainly does not make the quarterback any better or less at his position, at least to someone who knows football. They can see the difference between a bad quarterback and a bad receiver.

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by Manimal on Nov 26, 2008 9:54 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Touche good sir

I also would support Sam Cassell…I mean Matt Cassel as our QB. Like stated before, anyone else sigh about Drew Brees as the Vikes QB like a high school girl at the premier of Twilight?

by Jepp The Viking on Nov 26, 2008 10:01 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Like I stated before

YES. Multiple times. I would give up every Christmas and birthday for the rest of my life for him. That gift would outdue all others combined that I could possibly receive.

And I agree with Manimal about Cassel. I said it somewhere else, although with less detail and such, that the Pat’s offense takes a QB who can read a defense and make quick, smart, accurate passes. Our offense is starved for that at the moment.

In AP I trust

by FarvaForTheVikings on Nov 26, 2008 2:46 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes

Bring the Alien to play for the Vikes. He’ll be able to lead us to the Western Confer… I mean NFC Championship before getting hurt.

by biggity2bit on Nov 30, 2008 11:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If you was the Pats

Cassel will definatly get the Franchise tag,which I believe means they cant trade him.They will do this to see how Brady recovers without taking a huge cap hit signing Cassel to a large contract.At that point you start looking at wether Cassel can take Bradys place and continue to thrive.Brady might be the one getting dropped which wouldnt hurt my feelings to see him in Purple.

by speedlod on Nov 26, 2008 3:24 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Franchise

From the wiki:

"There are two types of franchise tag designations: the exclusive rights franchise tag, and non-exclusive rights franchise tag:

An “exclusive” franchise player must be offered a one-year contract for an amount equal to or greater than the average of the top five salaries at the player’s position as of a date in April of the current year in which the tag will apply, or 120 percent of the player’s previous year’s salary, whichever is greater. Exclusive franchise players cannot negotiate with other teams.1

A “non-exclusive” franchise player must be offered a one-year contract for an amount equal to or greater than the average of the top five salaries at the player’s position in the previous year, or 120 percent of the player’s previous year’s salary, whichever is greater. A non-exclusive franchise player may negotiate with other NFL teams, but if he signs an offer sheet from another team, the original team has a right to match the terms of that offer, or if it does not match the offer and thus loses the player, is entitled to receive two first-round draft picks as compensation.

It is the team’s choice whether it uses an exclusive or a non-exclusive franchise tag. While it may seem that a team would always choose the exclusive option, there are two reasons a team might prefer the non-exclusive option instead. The first is that the salary is based on the top 5 salaries of the previous year instead of the current year, which could be a significant difference. The second reason is that a team may want the opportunity for the two first-round draft picks they would receive if they lost their player."

The Patriots might hit him with the franchise tag, but it all depends on the status of Tom Brady. If he’s doing well and ready to start the season, then I don’t think Cassel will be around. If Brady is behind on his rehabilitation, Cassel may stick around. More likely, the Patriots will have a suitable backup or sign some journeyman quarterback “just in case.” Paying Cassel that kind of money when you have Tom Brady is a little crazy, and the Patriots are notorious for their thrifty spending and contracts.

My opinion? Cassel will be out of New England after this year.

Hopefully, he’ll be wearing purple not long after.

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by Manimal on Nov 26, 2008 3:46 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually, I was just thinking about this. New England is still doing pretty well with Cassel behind center. He’s showing poise and ability. They also have Brady who may just be the best QB ever. Now, at the end of this season, they could keep Cassel and have a Browns like situation, only the QBs are actually good, or…

They could trade Brady. I know, crazy right? But just think about what they could get for him. Imagine what a team like Chicago, Philidelphia, hell Minnesota, would give for Brady. Cassel has them on track right now, he’s showing he can get it done. Sure, he’s not Tom Brady, but he doesn’t have to be. He can be Matt Cassel, and the Patriots would still be winning like they are right now. Plus Cassel didn’t have multiple surgeries on a single knee.

by Frost on Nov 26, 2008 5:33 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bingo

Frost thats just the way I was looking at it,Brady is only going to be 1 good hit to that knee away from the sideline.Make sense trade in the High mileage model for the low end one.The exclusive tag would cost the Pats around 10 mill cheap insurance for a year if Brady doesnt recover fully.For most Teams including the Vikes a non real mobile Brady would be worth a year or 2.

by speedlod on Nov 26, 2008 8:36 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

T-Jack for me...

We’re unlikely to make the playoffs with Gus. Maybe not with T-Jack, yet 1 thing T-Jack has that Gus doesn’t have is “legs”.

Gus has been throwing behind receivers for the past several games.

If we’re going down, I’d like to know if T-Jack has learned anything watching from the sideline.

Regards,

I don't suffer from insanity...I relish every moment of it!

by the Dragon on Nov 26, 2008 9:02 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would have to partially agree. He’s a decent QB until he starts getting hit. Our O-line isn’t protecting him well enough. He has good elusiveness back there, there’s times where I think he’s going down and he’ll slip out, but he’s showing his frailty after he gets sacked.

Yes, Jackson had his legs, and I’d also like to see how much better he can do, but the recievers do seem more acclimated to Frerotte than they do to Jackson. They can catch Frerotte-throws, while Jackson’s simply seem to shoot through their hands or bounce off of them.

by Frost on Nov 27, 2008 8:14 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think it goes both ways; the QB has a responsibility to know his receivers and get the ball to a place where they can catch it, but the receivers are responsible for adapting to the throwing styles of the QBs, too. The Vikings receiver corps has improved dramatically since the season began, and I’m sure they’d do better with TJ than they did back in Sept.

Has TJ’s attitude changed, though? Has he learned anything since being pulled from the top QB slot? Because if he hasn’t, we’d see a repeat of what happened before; poor judgment, excessively aggressive running, refusing to adapt his throws to the receiver’s capabilities, and of course, lots of wild misses and interceptions to round things out.

I don’t know, there’s no way to know unless we see TJ play. Is this game against Chicago the right time to get experimental? I don’t think so.

by DCPurple on Nov 28, 2008 11:38 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, I’d have to agree that now isn’t to time to get experimental. These games are important and the playbook is opened for Frerotte, which it needs to be.

I have to disagree with what Jackson was doing before he was pulled though. Yeah, he ran aggresively and said he would never slide. Which is stupid of him. But, to be fair, his judgement was sound, and he really didn’t miss that often or throw too many interceptions. In two games, he had one int. What killed him was the drops. Shiancoe and Berrian were usually dropping whatever came their way. Yeah, he overthrew Berrian on a few deep routes, but who’s the say the turf toe wasn’t slowing the guy down?

If we lose tomorrow though, and Gus decides to pull a Rex Grossman impression and throw 3 or 4 picks, then he might as well be benched for the season and Jackson should get to show his stuff, with an open book this time.

by Frost on Nov 29, 2008 5:46 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just say no ... Cassel

Matt Cassel is going to be looking for a big contract. Matt Cassel has played less than 10 games since high school, no team (especially the Vikings who seem to have bad luck at the qb position). Heck Gus had a couple great games in relief of Daunte. Imagine if we had given Gus a huge contract back then. Is Cassel any more experienced than Booty?

It really really really makes me nervous thinking the Vikes would “go all in” on Matt Cassel with a big contract for a really unproven commodity. Personally I’d like to see Jackson under center immediately. If he fails or doesn’t see the field this year again then in 2009 I’d look more towards Garcia than Cassel.

by aceinthecorner on Nov 28, 2008 9:19 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

McNabb > Garcia. But he had to have a good game on Turkey day. So now he won’t get released :(

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