Schaub Injured in Vikings/Texans Game; Kubiak Proceeds to Whining
That's the hit that, apparently, put Texans' quarterback Matt Schaub on the shelf for a month with an injury to his MCL. Kubiak was questioning the legality of the hits at his Monday press conference.
And yes, he's serious. It's not just you. . .it took me a few solid minutes to finally stop laughing as well.
It's pretty obvious that Allen, who had beaten Duane Brown like a drum, was trying to chase down Schaub, and Schaub was then pushed into Allen by defensive tackle Kevin Williams. It didn't even look like Allen saw it coming. If that's an "illegal" or "dirty" hit, then let's just put everyone in a skirt and play two-hand touch instead.
I could also point out the irony of a guy that has Alex Gibbs on his coaching staff whining about another team going after a player's knees, but that would probably just be overkill.
Honestly, it's not as though Allen is Al Harris or anything.
Nobody whined this much after the Vikings/Colts game in Week 2 when Robert Mathis blatantly dove at the back of Adrian Peterson's knees as he was being held up by another Colt defender. Then again, Peterson is a running back AND a Viking. . .so who the hell cares if he gets injured, I guess. He probably deserves it or something.
This protest is laughable at best, and hopefully it will be completely ignored by the league, as it should be.
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Yes, this is odd
I found it rather odd when I started checking around sites this morning and afternoon (instead of working) that some Texans fans were complaining that the hit was illegal. There have been far more aggressive and malicious hits on quarterbacks than what Allen did, and he didn’t even mean to. I didn’t hear one person at the Buffalo Wild Wings I was at in HOUSTON, TEXAS complain one bit about it, and they were getting pretty upset at the game.
When Carson Palmer got knocked out in the playoffs a few years back, people questioned the legality of that hit, and it looked twenty times worse than this one. I just can’t understand why people complain so much. It’s football, so it happens. It’s unfortunate, but it’s the nature of how the game is played. Quarterbacks step into throws and defensive players are trying to hit the quarterback. Sometimes people dive, and legs are involved in the tackling process. Just because someone gets hurt does not mean it’s automatically something done on purpose.
Do I think Jared Allen was trying to put some pain into ol’ Schauby? You bet. Do I think he was trying to injure him? Of course not.
But it happened.
So deal with it.
by Manimal on
Nov 4, 2008 2:37 PM CST
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While I resent the Al Harris comment
I agree that the hit was nothing more than bad luck for Schaub. Kevin Williams wasn’t able to see that Jared Allen had slipped to the ground, then lunged for the quarterback. It was totally accidental. And no, I am not being sarcastic.
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by Mitchell_M on
Nov 4, 2008 3:25 PM CST
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Meh. . .
And I resent Al Harris diving helmet-first into Adrian Peterson’s knees.
I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree here.
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by Gonzo on
Nov 4, 2008 3:32 PM CST
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It's definitely warranted
Can’t argue; what Harris did was definitely dirty. What Allen and Williams did was completley accidental.
It’s part of the game.
by Manimal on
Nov 4, 2008 3:43 PM CST
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My Take
What I see, especially in the real time portion of the video, is Allen bringing his arms in to prevent from grabbing at Schaub’s knees, which says to me that he was doing everything possible to keep from hurting Schaub.
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by BaldViking on
Nov 4, 2008 7:08 PM CST
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It looked clean enough to me. This is Football though and playing rough is what makes this game. This was not intentional. However, seems to me that the NFL rules hold D players back from their true performances. It’s like walking on thin ice sometimes.
by vikingfiend on
Nov 4, 2008 9:49 PM CST
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welp
we’re talking a viking here, and a play that could be considered questionable at most, and the commisioner, umm whatever his name is (i’m being condescending, i really know his name), so we’re looking at a $100,000 fine, and a four game suspension with no pay. but hey, thats okay right?
but seriously, i can see where they might be upset, but honestly looks like an accident to me, if anyone should be complaining we should be about him hitting allen in the head with the back of his knee.
What up?
by snakethejake on
Nov 4, 2008 11:17 PM CST
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So just so I'm clear!
Allen beats the LT but ends up over running the QB when the QB steps up in the pocket. Allen then plants to come from behind BUT SLIPS on the turf!! Meanwhile KWill gets to the QB just as he releases the ball and pushes him. By KWill pushing the QB the QB falls right into the path of Allen who happens to be low because of his slip and not because he was aiming for the QB’s knees!
I’m a self admitted homer but clearly this was a fluke play that HAD to have several things happen with several different players SIMILTANEOUSLY to play out the way it did.
If Allen doesn’t slip, if KWill doesn’t get to the QB, if Shaub doesn’t step up in the pocket, if the LT would have finished his block, if the LG blocks KWill for 1/2 second longer, none of that happens and Schaub is just fine.
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by Unclebillybonz on
Nov 5, 2008 11:36 AM CST
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As was said
Jared was on the ground getting up to finish the play. Obviously the whistle didn’t blow and from a kid you are taught to play to the whistle. By the time Allen knows the throw is off he is on his way down to the ground and even looked like he was softening up rather than finishing when he realized the throw was gone. If he wanted to hurt MS he would have had his upper body stiffer and following thru hard. Which he wasn’t.
by CitrusFLViking on
Nov 5, 2008 6:42 PM CST
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Looks like Allen probably couldn’t even see that Schaub had thrown the ball, so he shouldn’t be expected to let up on the play. He does go at his knees but Allen is on his knees. What’s he supposed to do, take the time to stand fully erect before proceeding to the QB?
I don’t know whether or not Allen intended to hurt Schaub, but he should have, considering that’s what he gets paid to do!!! If you don’t want the QB to ever get hit (which is coming in the NFL so get ready for it) then make it two hand touch.
Good point Gonzo about Gibbs and the irony of complaining about going after the knees. I’m sure Texans fans won’t be gasping in horror when sackmaster Mario Williams goes after some opposing QB’s knees in an upcoming game.
BTW Houston fans, rest easy knowing your backup is just as good as your starter, if not better.
by Bodysuit Man on
Nov 6, 2008 10:54 AM CST
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