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"Players change teams so often these days. . .essentially, we're just rooting for laundry." - Jerry Seinfeld (slightly paraphrased)

The one question that a sports fan never wants to find themselves asking is "What would I do if my team were to move away?"  To be honest, it's not something that I've thought a lot about over the period of time that I've cheered for the Minnesota Vikings.  Call me a bit of an idealist, but I just always assumed that the Vikings would stay in Minnesota for as long as they existed.  Don't get me wrong, they still might. . .but the inexplicable actions of the Minnesota senate this past week casts a pretty sizable shadow of doubt over that, at least for the moment.

So, it made me wonder. . .what WOULD I do if the Vikings were to leave Minnesota?  Am I a fan of the Vikings because they're the Vikings, or am I a fan of the Vikings because they're located in Minnesota?  If they were to pick up and leave, would I. . .could I. . .still follow them on a regular basis, never mind maintain the level of fan-dom that I've achieved to this point in my sports-viewing life?

Obviously, the fact that the Vikings are located in Minnesota is a big part of what makes me a fan of the team.  Growing up in North Dakota, we could be assured that whenever there was NFL football shown on Sunday afternoons on NBC or CBS that the Vikings would be broadcast to our living rooms, regardless of where they were playing or when.  Nearly all of my football exposure during my formative years involved the Minnesota Vikings in some way, and that was pretty much based on where I lived.  After I left home and joined the military, I've (obviously) maintained a pretty heavy attachment to the Vikings franchise.

However, while the attachment to the team has grown stronger, my attachment to the state of Minnesota has waned.  Like I said, I grew up in North Dakota, but I have family in Minnesota.  But as the family that I have in Minnesota becomes smaller over the course of time, and as I spend more time away from the Upper Midwest due to the nature of military service, my attachment to the state of Minnesota has waned considerably.  Basically, outside of family, Minnesota's sports teams are the only real connection I have to the state.  I don't work there, I don't vacation there, I don't travel there. . .and heck, when I go to see the Vikings play the Saints this season down in New Orleans, I will have officially seen more Vikings' games outside of the confines of the Metrodome than within them.

My wife and I have often discussed where we'd like to retire to after my 20+ years of military service concludes.  Part of my answer has always been "close enough to the Vikings to get season tickets."  I've never been a season ticket holder in any sport. . .honestly, I've only attended one Vikings game at the Metrodome in my nearly 25 years of being a fan of the team.  When I give her that answer, it has always been given with the assumption that that would be Minneapolis.

But with the developments of the past week, it doesn't appear that I can make that assumption any longer.

The Vikings are, to be frank, Minnesota's most popular sports franchise (sorry Twin and Wild fans).  They have been ever since the inception of the franchise in 1961.  But it doesn't appear as though that holds any weight with the folks that run things in the state of Minnesota.  It's not as though Zygi Wilf isn't trying to keep the team in Minneapolis, because he is.  But if he threatened to move the team, it wouldn't surprise me in the least. . .and, quite frankly, it wouldn't hurt my feelings, either.

And rest assured, Zygi threatening to move the Vikings elsewhere would be an actual, realistic threat.  This isn't like Red McCombs threatening to move the team when everyone knew the Vikings had multiple years left on their agreement with the Metrodome. . .as Lester Bagley pointed out the other day, the Vikings have 40 games left on their current agreement with the Metrodome (I think it's probably closer to 48, but your mileage may vary).  That's four years, people.  It's not as though these stadiums pop up overnight, either. . .they take a few years to get built.  If the state of Minnesota wants to keep the Vikings around past the end of the 2011 season when the Vikings' lease with the Metrodome expires, they'd damn sure better have somewhere up and ready for use by Opening Weekend of 2012.  And Minnesota's not like some places that construction can be done year-round, either. . .it's going to take longer to get it done in Minneapolis (or anywhere else in Minnesota) simply due to the nature of Minnesota weather.

Sadly, the Minnesota senate has already shown us exactly how they view the Minnesota Vikings.  They're not even willing to commission a study that would be completely financed by Zygi Wilf and the Minneapolis Sports Facilities Commission.  Why?  Because it might accidentally lead to some actual serious discussion about getting a stadium for the Vikings taken care of.  Lord knows we can't have that, can we?

So, after further review, I've drawn the conclusion that if the state of Minnesota is going to show that level of contempt and disdain for the Vikings, it's only right that I show that level of contempt and disdain for the state of Minnesota.  I'll put it out there right now:

If the Minnesota Vikings are allowed to leave the state of Minnesota, I will follow them and cheer for them regardless of where they land.

My loyalty lies with this football team. . .with these players, with these coaches, and with this owner.  I'm not about to let my football-watching future be held hostage by a bunch of people that can't (or won't) see exactly how important the Vikings are to the community and the state.  When I was growing up, the Vikings chose me just as much as I chose them. . .and by God, I have been, am, and always will be a Viking fan.  At this point, I don't care if they're the Minnesota Vikings or the Portland Vikings or the Las Vegas Vikings or the Toronto Vikings or the Los Angeles Vikings or. . .well, I'm sure there's other places I could list.

Besides, if I wasn't a Vikings fan, what would I do?

Become a Packer fan?  Please. . .I could never attain that level of arrogance and pretentiousness.

Become a Bear fan?  See above.

Stop watching football all together?  Not bloody likely.

Wait for the NFL to come back to Minnesota?  Yeah, good luck with that. . .you DO realize that the 2008 season will be the 13th consecutive year without football in Los Angeles, right?  I feel bad for the folks that decided that they'd "just wait for another team to come along."

Now, I'm sure that there are those of you that are reading this and are wondering how I can say such a thing, and I understand that.  Like I said, maybe the nature of my work has left me detached from the state, maybe there are things that I'm not even aware of that make me feel this way.  Many Viking fans have much stronger ties to the city of Minneapolis and the state of Minnesota than I have.  But, in this matter, I am firmly behind the team. . .not the empty suits that would allow a franchise that means what the Vikings mean to the state of Minnesota to back up the moving vans and leave.

That's the way I see it.  Like I said, you may agree, you may not.  I hope that the Vikings stay in Minnesota. . .believe me, I would, despite some of the tone of what I've just said.  But if they don't?  Well, then all my Minnesota Vikings stuff would go into storage and I'd start collecting merchandise for the (insert city here) Vikings. . .or the (insert city here) (insert nickname here)s, if Minnesota was allowed to keep the name and all of that like Cleveland did when the Browns left for Baltimore.

I've spent nearly a quarter-century worth of autumns living and dying with the Vikings on Sunday afternoons, Monday nights, and any other time I've been fortunate enough to see them on my television.  And I'll be damned if I throw that away because of the arrogance of the lawmakers in the state of Minnesota.  If they're not willing to support my team, then I'm sure as hell not willing to support them.

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Another study?!
We don't need anther stinkin' study by some high falutin" commission on a Vikings stadium. It has been studied to death. What we need is courage in our politicians. And that ain't likely to happen.

Our options are as follows:

  1. Fund a domed stadium that is not a KMart blue light special (read Metrodome here)
  2. Let Ziggy build his stadium in Anoka County. (the brotherhood & Sid in Mpls won't let this happen)
  3. Remodel the Metrodome. This is like putting a bandaid on a gunshot wound. But this is what will probably happen.
  4. Get on our high horse, don't fund a stadium and watch the Vikes sail off to LA, ala the Lakers, in 2012. But our high horse is not believable as we fund every other stadium, regional convention center, interperative center  etal. under the sun.
We have studied the options to death. We need action or accept the consequences of inaction. Which may not be the worst thing in this instance. And I say this as lifelong fan of the purple. If the purple leave, I will miss them. But I can become a Bengals fan easily enough. I miss our police blotter reports and the Bengals would fill this niche nicely.

by Odin on Apr 6, 2008 11:05 AM CDT reply actions  

Odin
Do not be duped by the senate!!!  The study was one to provide a plan for how to PAY for the stadium, not how or where to build one.  The politians are playing the old game of "if you don't have the $149,000 in your pocket right now, you can't build this house, so don't even think about moving in until you do."  The idea of the study is to show them how, whether through bonds, loans, or selling home-baked cookies, Minnesota could manage to pay for a stadium that would attract new business into our state.  By saying no to the study, they are sticking their heads in the sand, so they can avoid seeing any way out, other than that of not building a stadium for the Vikings and approving a plan that would renew a major section of the largest city in the state.  They're saying to the people: "you're poor, you can't expect anything decent," rather than: "we're idiots, we let a bridge fall down."

by Purple Reign on Apr 7, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seahawkless in Seattle
I just want to say that I hate the Seahawks.  I may live in WA but I was born and raised in MN.  I just know that over the last few years I have been watching the seattle supersonics try to get a new stadium and are now ready to leave even if a new stadium gets built.  I don't want to see that happen to the vikings.  

My opinion, if the VIkings make the playoffs and actually win their first round game, I think people will take the stadium talk a little more serious.

by rokstarsomeday on Apr 6, 2008 11:11 AM CDT reply actions  

wouldn't be surprised
So far Minnesota has waved buh bye to the Lakers and the North Stars.  MN was lucky to get the T-Wolves and Wild.  It wouldn't surprise me in the least if MN let the Vikings leave too.

I think I would probably follow them, but don't think I know for sure until it actually happened.

All of my extended family lives in MN, but I've never lived there, but for the first 15 years of my life I lived all over the country so always thought of MN as home, even though it had never really been home.  So like Gonzo, my only ties to MN are family that lives there, and the Vikes.  

by BigDaveZJ on Apr 6, 2008 9:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Watching no matter what
       I would follow them if they moved the only things that would change would be a possible name change and location in which the team resided in.Other then that it would still be the Vikes.

by speedlod on Apr 7, 2008 8:11 AM CDT reply actions  

would'nt stick around
I had to chime in on this one.  I've been a Vikes fans since day one.  From Minnesota, but only lived there for about four years of my life.  however, I've lived & died with this imcompetent team for over 40 years now.  I'm a "Minnesota Viking" fan.  Not a "Viking" fan.  not a "Minnesota" fan.  When the North Stars bailed out & went to Dallas I started hating on the "Stars".  Cant stand them.  I never took to the Wild. Goofy unis, stupid color scheme, lame logo.  Its NOT the North Stars.  Nor would it be my "Minnesota Vikings" if they moved anywhere else.  Watching them choke, over and over, & waiting for them to win a freakin' Superbowl has NOT been easy.  You know & I know that in true form, just like the "St.Louis Rams"...the minute they move, within two or three years after moving out of Minne, they'd win that damned Superbowl & I'd hang myself in my garage.  I've waited too long, wanted it too bad, taken too many arrows & stones for them throughout the seasons...to just say "oh, Ok...its the LA Vikings now...I'm good with that".  I would become a Seamonkey (Seahawks) fan if this team bailed from Minnesota.  The quest would be over.  My life-long dream would be shattered.  I couldnt care for them if they left Minnesota.  I stuck with this team after the four sucky Superbowl let downs...through the '87 dropped pass at the goal line in Washington, through the 49er blow outs, through the utterly dispicable choke job that was the home loss in the '98 NFC title game (they lost to the freakin' FALCONS of all teams...just a step up from the 'Aints for cryin' out loud)!!!
If this team were to move the air would come out of the proverbial sails & I would just drop them all together.  Hell, I'd probably start rooting AGAINST them just so that I wouldnt have to watch some purple posers in LA hoist the Lombardi trophy.  It'd just be too painfull.  And I cannot, for the life of me, figure out why those weak kneed morons that Minnesota calls politicians, cant get it through their heads. This team is a cash cow for the state.  WTF are they screwing around for with this stadium BS???!!

I would drop the Vikings from my list.  If they moved on, I would move on also.  Just two cents from a 40+ year Viking fan who still cannot figure out how Len Dawson & that limp rag he called an arm scorched the vaunted Purple People Eaters back in '70.  No way I'd stay.

by VikingDave on Apr 7, 2008 8:59 AM CDT reply actions  

I agree
I've never lived in MN, (well except for last summer in Duluth) but I've been a Vikings fan since first grade.  It's not easy growing up in Western PA and cheering for a team in MN, but at the same time MN sort of became to feel like home even though i had never been to a game until two years ago.  

I don't think I could cheer for another MN team if they got one, but I think I'm with VikingDave in that I don't know if I could actually follow the Vikings if they moved.  

I"m not sure I can articulate why, I just think that would be the case.

by Gorilla Bird on Apr 7, 2008 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

the NFL would be dead to me
I'd watch bowling before the NFL I think.
VikeGuru is a doofus!!

by Unclebillybonz on Apr 7, 2008 12:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Life-Long Minnesotan
I don't normally leave these kind of comments, but I have to speak out about this subject.
Firstly, let me say that I'm a fan of the DN and almost everything that I read here. But Gonzo, I gotta go against you this time....

Unlike some of those who have commented above, I have lived in Minnesota for nearly my entire life (21 of 23 years). The only football team I've ever known has been the Vikings. The MINNESOTA Vikings.
I am a MINNESOTA sport fan: MINNESOTA Twins, MINNESOTA Timberwolves, MINNESOTA Wild, and the Vikings are my favorite, by far. No matter where I go in my life; whether I live in Europe, Asia, Africa or the North Pole, I will always be loyal to Minnesota sports (as excruciatingly hard as that has been in my lifetime).

To the point, there is NO WAY I could ever support the Vikings if they left Minnesota (just as I absolutely HATE the Dallas Stars and I HATE the LA Lakers).

There is only ONE option: The Vikings MUST stay in MN. If they ever left..... I don't know what I would do. I would be devastated.
Imagine if the Cubs ever left Chicago. People would riot in the streets. People would be crying and screaming on the sidewalks. The spirit of the city would die. The loss of the MINNESOTA Vikings would be no less devastating to me.

There are no "Vikings". There are only the "MINNESOTA Vikings". Any other city/state/provincial name in front of the title "Vikings", will make them just another team, far away.

I pray that our legislators will keep them here. Because if they don't, they will KILL the competitive spirit of this entire state.

by Medcity on Apr 7, 2008 12:54 PM CDT reply actions  

If they left
If they left,(Sorry guys)but I would still be a vikings fan.It's true that would absolutely SUCK,if they left Minnesota,but the fact is that I'm a Vikings,not a Minnesota fan.It's not the teams fault that the Legislators up there has thier a**es put on backwards.But if the Vikings organization would win at least one freakin Superbowl,then we wouldn't have to worry about the team moving.I mean realistically guys the Vikings have never won ANYTHING so no wonder the Legislators don't consider them a priority.So if anything we should be mad at ownership for never giving us a championship team.I mean we are one of the oldest franchises & don't even have ONE stinkin championship ring. Even the Bears have at least one,the freakin Bears!! & that's not even to mention the stinkin Packers!!!  

by jtes21 on Apr 7, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Suffer No Fools
Wherever the Vikings go, there go I.

Damn anyone who dares to take the name "Vikings fan" who would not support the team if they are forced to leave Minnesota to make their living because of the vote of elected fools who apparently believed the bent gusset plates on the 35W bridge merely gave Minnesota a nice, rustic look.  When you're a Vike, you're a Vike all the way.  This team is named after people who came ashore and burned their boats, because they were either going to get what they came for or die. It is a proud name that doesn't deserve to be kept by a state full of wusses who say we should just give up on the team they have.  Failure to plan is not an emergency, it's a failure of leadership.  Do not be led around by any packs of fools.

Sure, Zygi could probably build a no-roof stadium he'd love in a corn field outside of Rochester.  Then his haters would bitch because he's tying up traffic on I-35 and I-90.  He'd probably have built one in Anoka if the Army Corps of Engineers hadn't said he couldn't, due to environmental concerns.  There was just too much politcal pressure not to move the home field out of Minneapolis.  Now Zygi offers to refurbish the downtown neighborhood, and some people act like he's a pick pocket.  Get real: You let the Twins build a ball park because the Dome is a dump.  You built the Gophers a new stadium because the dome is a dump.  Do you think the team that's running last in revenue in the NFL will last forever playing in a dump?  No, Adrian Peterson will sooner score the winning Super Bowl TD for Toronto.

Hell, I'll even go to Canada if that's where the Vikings go.  What good is a country that is so ignorant it would vote in (not once but twice) some village idiot as their leader who seven years after certain terrorists knocked down the World Trade Center still doesn't even know where the leader of those who did that profane act is but has instead started the Mother of All Bar Fights in some country that had no weapons of mass destruction and was not even responsibile for planning the 9/11 attack???

I'd mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it any more. Viking fan now; Viking fan forever!

The recent proposed study was not about where to build the stadium or what it would look like, it was a study on how to pay for it, the thing the senate had claimed previously the Vikings did not have. This stunt is just some "bring me the broomstick of the wicked witch of the west" crap by an alleged government living in the land of Oz.  They don't know how to run this state, but pretend they still are somehow still important to my welfare. Forget that idea.  I'll vote with my ballot, and if surrounded by fools, I'll take my tax dollars and vote with my feet.

Every true Viking fan should stand outside the Republican Convention with signs saying Pawlenty is an idiot.  When the Vikings are forced to leave Minnesota, you should leave with them!  Let all the fools determine how they'll balance the state budget without your money.

Elected officials are living off your tax dollars.  Tell them what Donald Trump would: "You're fired."  Vote out every single useless senator who voted no to seeing a financial study that might help resolve this issue.  Sticking you head in the sand like an ostrich and saying you don't want to see any options for solving this issue is not being a representative of any Viking fan. If you can't vote these nuts out, then leave yourself.  It's like Wanda Sykes said, "America is to blame; we're the ones who let the blind man drive the car."

by Purple Reign on Apr 7, 2008 5:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Probably dead to me
As a Norweigan living in Norway, my only connection to MN is one semester HS, and a half year at UND (in 99, Yup, I got that Falcons loss, lucky me). But it is still the Minnesota Vikings, not the Vikings. I have been a Minnesota Sports fan since 87, and have been there when the North Stars left. I HATE the Dallas Stars, almost as much as I hate the Lakers (but that is another story). I am pretty sure I would hate the Vikings franshise if it moved. I would just hope they also would chage the nickname. Vikings in LA? Come on. Minnesota got that scandinavian connection, LA or any other potensial location don't.

BK
-North Stars or no stars.

(Pardon any mistakes in my language)

by BennyKanin on Apr 8, 2008 3:50 AM CDT reply actions  

Another Option
Gonzo:
  1. Thanks for your service!
  2. LOVE this site.
I've been bleeding purple since 1974. So the lease is up on the Metrodome in 2011, what's wrong with just extending the lease? How will a new stadium translate to a winning football team? More revenue from more seats? The Vikes had to be rescued from blackouts, so that can't be it.

Zygi - I love ya, man, and I believe you want to win (so extend Birk already!!!!), but for the love of God, PLEASE stay in Minnesota.

by Jon @ Daily Norseman on Apr 8, 2008 7:43 AM CDT reply actions  

I Would Be Done With The NFL.
If the Vikings leave Minnesota, I would be done with the NFL.  As far as football is concerned, I would still have my beloved Nebraska Cornhuskers to cheer for, and there is no chance of them becoming the L. A. Cornhuskers, EVER!

by BaldViking on Apr 8, 2008 11:27 AM CDT reply actions  

Where we discuss
I've been a Vikings fan since Joe Kapp was the man.......it's funny ..all my family were Browns Fans as we live in Ohio...loved watching the games ...but just didn't like the team...Then i saw the Vikings...the purple...the fast rough Defense .and the gutty QB ......the one of the"40 men" fame.I was hooked.I guess to answer the question though.....the sound of The Minnesota Vikings just seems natural..you know like natural spring water....but the important thing to me would be....if they moved...would they keep the Viking name?If the didn't keep it when they moved to a different city...that may not fit ..like the LA Vikings?..yech....doesn't fit,with the Minnesota part..the Scandanavian ancestry..it fits......so no..i wouldn't follow that.The change to a new city with OUR team name....not sure how i'd do.....but would at least try...but my fervent wish is that the people there in Minnesota will care as much as us fans from out of state and stand up...unite....and tell the senator and congressman how important to your community...I've watched family and friends when the Beowns became the Ravens...and they were without a team for a few years..I honestly don't want that for us fans..or your economy there .Thanks for letting me spew...

by Bigman on Apr 9, 2008 5:12 PM CDT reply actions  

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