Tampering Update: Possible Hard Evidence

by Luft Krigare on Jul 23, 2008 8:09 PM CDT Comment 7 comments

Fresh off the presses or in this case, the TV. WBAY in Green Bay is reporting hard evidence that tampering took place has been found.

Sources: Favre Text-messaged Vikings on Packers Cell Phone
Updated: July 23, 2008 06:47 PM

The ongoing tampering investigating involving Brett Favre and the Minnesota Vikings has a new twist.

Not only has it been reported that Favre used a Packers-issued cell phone to make repeated calls to Minnesota head coach Brad Childress and offensive coordinator Darrell Bevel, but there may also be text messages to support the tampering claims.

That latest nugget comes from Tuesday Night Touchback contributor Jason Wilde, citing league sources.

According to the Minneapolis Star Tribune, NFL security officials visited the Vikings offices Tuesday as they investigate the tampering charges.

My question is, without the phone, how do they know what was on the text messages? Can you get a history in the way of a printout of all the messages going to and from a phone, just by asking your cellular company for them?

Now if there is damning evidence, (and I'm not concluding nor admitting there is at this point) then I'm really starting to question Childress' abilities to make correct decisions.

I understand the football reasons that Brett Favre may be attractive, but it is the decision to discuss employment by texting on a cell phone that bothers me.

Are we talking teenagers here? Will my next job ask for my services by text message on a cell phone? That sounds absurd to me.

What do you guys think?

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If this is true. . .

And I’m hoping that it’s not. . .but if it is, then either Childress or Bevell is a friggin’ idiot.

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by Gonzo on Jul 23, 2008 9:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Nope, you can't...

Text messages are only stored by the cellular companies for about 72 hours. How do I know? I recall reading an article about a mayor of some city getting busted for having an affair with his secretary due to their company having saved text messages. However, it wasn’t your normal cellular company, sprint, verizon, etc., it was some other businessthat provided phones strictly to that state.

So, if it was a normal company like Sprint that is covering it, then no, you can’t get copies of the text messages unless they’re saved on the phone itself.

And since I’m still convinced Favre isn’t as huge a dumb ass as this whole situation makes this out to be, I’m going to vote that this is a Packer conspiracy.

by Frost on Jul 23, 2008 9:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Before blaming Childress or Bevel, shouldn’t everyone wait to find out what direction those text messages were going? The blurb didn’t mention that. Just like with the calls, all I’ve heard is that the calls were only going to the Vikings, and I haven’t heard how long they were. (If someone has a link to a story with more specific phone records details, I’d like to check it out.) If Favre was throwing calls and messages to them and they weren’t calling back, then the Packers are going to look kinda dumb.

by cheaptoy on Jul 24, 2008 6:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Blaming Childress

You’re right cheaptoy, it says nothing about which direction the texts were going. It could be just Brett.

Our buddies over at the STrib wrote Favre is perfect conversation starter and here is Childress’ answer to the question:

Childress, in his first comments since the Packers’ decision to file tampering charges were reported last week, was cool and calm as he answered questions.

“You can’t believe everything you read, but that’s an NFL matter,” he said when asked if he had spoken to Favre. “I’m not going to touch that one. But I am excited to get here to Gage Hall if you can imagine that.”

Childress said he was “not obligated to” tell the media if he had talked to Favre since the quarterback announced his retirement in March. “They are handling all that league-wise,” Childress said. “They do a good job with that.”

It may take a village to raise a child, but it takes a Viking to raze a village.

by Luft Krigare on Jul 24, 2008 7:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Further updates

This is from ESPN this morning.

A media report in Green Bay is refuting an earlier report that Brett Favre used a Packers-issued cell phone to talk to Minnesota Vikings coach Brad Childress and assistant coach Darrell Bevell.
The Green Bay Press-Gazette, citing two sources - one in the NFL, another close to Favre - reported that Favre does not have a team-issued cell phone.

“One-hundred percent, without a doubt, no Packers-issued phone,” the source close to Favre said, according to the report

I’ll be so glad when all this BS has blown over.

by Robert Rence on Jul 24, 2008 10:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

So Now

The Packers are in a Pickle here, Does the NFL Demand the Vikings to turn over their Phone Records? Or does the NFL Just throw out the charges?

by Tony_O on Jul 24, 2008 12:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Actually

Favre did an interview with Sports Illustrated and said himself that while he called Brad Childress and Bevell, none of it could be considered tampering. Not only that, but Favre admitted that he calls several other coaches both during and after the season.

I know this won’t happen, but if we get nailed for tampering, I want to see the League turn around and nail everyone else that Favre’s talked to, because honestly, as of right now, they have it from the horse’s mouth that we didn’t influence him to return to the game. Anything else is speculation, and it shouldn’t be held against us.

by Frost on Jul 27, 2008 10:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs