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Steelers 12, Vikings 10: A Look Back at Last Night

With Tarvaris Jackson, Bernard Berrian, and Sidney Rice all watching from the sidelines, the Vikings took on the Pittsburgh Steelers in the third exhibition game of the 2008 season last night in Minneapolis.  As you'd expect, there were things that were good and things that were not so good about last night's performance.  That's what this here thread is for, so let's get to it.

What Was Good

The First-String Defense - Oh, so THAT'S what a pass rush looks like, huh?  I was confused. . .it's been so long since the Vikings have actually had one of those on a consistent basis that I had pretty much forgotten.  But yes, ladies and gentlemen, that's quite similar to what I expect the Four Norsemen of the Apocalypse to be doing all season long.  In the first half, the Steelers' first-string offense netted a total of 76 yards and three points. . .three points which were, unfortunately, pretty much set up by the Minnesota offense, but we'll discuss them later on.

Last night we saw Jared Allen blowing up double teams when they were thrown at him, the Williams' boys disrupting things in the middle as only they can, and Ray Edwards showing us that even though he might be the forgotten man on this defensive line, opposing defensive coordinators would be foolish to ignore him.  And we haven't even mentioned the depth on the defensive line, but it's pretty good, too.  If the Vikings can generate the kind of pressure with just their front four that we saw against Pittsburgh last night, they stand to be ready to take a mammoth leap forward.

Aundrae Allison - With the Vikings' #1 and #2 wide receivers sitting out last night's game with a toe injury and a stomach virus, respectively, the new #84 got some significant run with the first team last night, and he responded very well, leading all receivers with 5 catches for 56 yards.  The majority of those receptions came from the slot, which is where Allison is best suited to work.  His receptions covered 8, 11, 13, 17, and 7 yards, and all but one came before halftime.  With the Minnesota passing game looking to become a much bigger threat and with the other receiving options the Vikings have available right now, one has to wonder how Allison will get worked into the offense, but he's proven over the course of the pre-season that he definitely deserves to have his role in the offense increased.

Erin Henderson - I don't know how the heck Henderson the Younger wasn't a first-day draft pick. . .after all, that's where he was originally projected. . .but he's proving to be a very nice addition to an already talented linebacker group.  He tied again for the team lead in tackles last night with five, and also threw in a strip of Rashard Mendenhall to force a Steeler turnover.  With the injury to Heath Farwell, coupled with his performance to this point, it looks to me like the reunion of the Henderson brothers will last through the 2008 season. . .and possibly well beyond.

What Wasn't Good

The run offense - Yes, I realize that the Steelers are a very good defense, and that it's only pre-season. . .but Adrian Peterson and Chester Taylor combining for 26 yards on 16 carries last night is rough.  Really, really rough.  For an offense that prides itself on its ability to run the football, such performances simply can't become the norm for this team if they're to live up to the expectations that they've been given.  Fortunately, I'm not terribly worried about this one at this point, and I think it's going to come together before the season opener.

Penalties - Ten penalties in a pre-season game, including three false start penalties on the opening drive. . .at home.  Blech.  Of the ten penalties, there were four false starts, two for defensive offsides, one for illegal formation, and three 15-yard penalties (face mask on E.J. Henderson, unnecessary roughness on Matt Birk, and roughing the passer on Letroy Guion).  At least 8 of those 10 penalties are easily eliminated (the false starts, the illegal formation, and the three 15-yarders), and they NEED to be eliminated before the first game of the regular season.  The Vikings are perennially among the league leaders in penalties, and this is a trend that needs to be completely reversed.

Quarterback - Not that Gus Frerotte was "bad," per se. . .but last night made me happy that he's our backup and not somebody we're relying on for the long-term.  Like I said, he had a decent game (save for the awful interception that set up Pittsburgh's only first-half score), but I don't want to see him out there more than a couple times in 2008.  I'd prefer to not see him at all, but with Tarvaris Jackson's injury history, that hardly seems like a realistic hope.

What do you all think, folks?  What did you like or not like about last night's performance?  Feel free to talk about it here!

We should be back with some more later on this afternoon.  Apparently TS Fay decided that she didn't want a piece of Gonzo and decided to take a track more to the north of where Mrs. Gonzo and I live.  (Or there was something in the atmosphere that made it go that way.  Hell, I don't know, it's just a theory.)  We'll see you then, everybody!

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Mental errors and lack of execution were the most frustrating aspects of last nights game. This is the preseason but it seems as though the Vikes have suffered from a lack of discipline for years, no matter who sits in the head coaching position. It seems as though Bud Grant was the last head coach able to bring discipline and mental toughness to the team and Tony Dungy was the last defensive coordinator to bring the same to the defense. It is early but let’s hope that Childress gets some results in these areas. I live in Texas but have been a Viking fan since their innaugural year in 1961. I root for any team who plays against and beats the Cowboys. Go Vikes on Thursday.

by TexasViking on Aug 24, 2008 1:07 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Excuse

Part of the false starts may be the lineman “not used to” Gus’ cadence. It is pretty lame, but one that I heard last night.

The defense looked great! Longwell, who played for the first time looked good and distance on kickoffs was adequate. Some day I would love to get a guy that consistently blast kickoffs through the end zone. (sigh)

Other than his false start, Shaincoe caught 2 passes and didn’t drop or fumble either one. Progress.

It may take a village to raise a child, but it takes a Viking to raze a village.

by Luft Krigare on Aug 24, 2008 1:29 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Defense And More

I liked how Tyrell Johnson played filling in for Madieu. He played really well, but overall, I like our number 1 defense the best. Jared Allen is a beast. Heck the whole defensive front is beasts. Don’t worry about the running game too much, like the reporters said last night, Brad is putting a load on Adrian so he can be ready for the REGUALR SEASON. Dont forget this is only preason. I believe that if all our starters get healthy, and stay heathly, this will be a season to remember forever.

Justin Vikingholic Fells

by Vikingholic on Aug 24, 2008 4:55 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another win

The starters left with a win against a good team, so it can’t be too bad.

The defense looked great. It’s amazing how easy it is to shut down another team when you consistently get pressure rushing only four. I don’t know why all teams don’t just do that.

The offense looked weak. If anything, this increased my respect for Jackson’s skills. For all the heat he gets, I’ve seen 4 other QB’s throw passes to our first teamers over the last couple years and none of them look as good as Jack doing it. The silver lining on the offensive woes is that we were missing two WR’s and a QB that will be in opening night.

The run offense concerns me a bit. Teams have been blasting through our line and making plays behind the lineman a lot. That is concerning. Hopefully it clears up come regular season. The #1 rush offense didn’t really lose anyone so it should come around.

Our #3 and #4 QB’s are so bad it is unbelievable. I liked Booty out of college but so far I’ve seen a guy that is absolutely overwhelmed and can’t complete a pass over 3 yards.

by Sand0 on Aug 25, 2008 8:15 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Two things I'd add...

I completely agree with Gonzo’s assessment. I’d add two things: one good one bad. First, the good. I loved the way Shiancoe played. He was an enormous disappointment disappointment last year and made me cringe everytime I saw the ball flying in his direction. When he makes his routes and his catches he has the look of a dominant TE. I would love to see his progress continue. Next, the bad. The false starts were the most obvious break down on our O-line, but how many times did the pocket simply crumble. And then there was the play (I forget the Steeler’s name) where Hutch literally fell on his ass the D-lineman blew by him so quickly. The lack of productivity from the run game was obvious, but in my viewing it had less to do with Taylor Peterson and more to do with an out of synch front five.

by Anthony Carter on Aug 25, 2008 9:32 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

...by the way

I’ll add that I loved TJ’s postgame comments. His smug, “I’m still not going to slide” was the PERFECT answer to the criticism he’s received. I’ve watched the play where he got injured at least ten times and I don’t see it as a slide play. He was running out wide and had the corner when the defender leaped at his knees. That’s the kind of thing that happens. And there’s been a huge inconsistency in all of the people who say he’s stupid for not sliding and a wimp for not playing. “I’m still not going to slide” shows a confidence and self-possession he did not have last year, with his game or the media. Last year he was apprehensive, almost apologetic about stepping into the starting role so soon. This year he shows every sign of being ready to lead and assert himself. Contrats, TJ.

by Anthony Carter on Aug 25, 2008 9:40 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nickname

"I’m still not going to slide"
So is “Battle” Jackson starting to fit him then?

by Iceland-Viking on Aug 25, 2008 2:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Slide or Die

Jackson’s comment is about on par for a kid who doesn’t quite get it yet. He gets injured stupidly, he lets down the whole team, the coach, the owner, and We the Fans. It would be different if the Vikes had a Montana/Young combo at QB, or even a Staubach/White. But we don’t and Jackson has to carry the load, and grow up! Be responsible!

Penalties and turnovers are usually the difference between winning and losing a game, both can be minimized and the Vikes clearly need to do a lot better in this category. However, I have to disagree with Gonzo on his call here; I’d rather see ‘Unnecessary Roughness’ and ‘Roughing the Passer’, than anything else. Football is a physical game, and the most physical team is going to intimidate and, I think, probably win.

by DCPurple on Aug 26, 2008 8:06 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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