Whether the Vikings Have Questions Or Not, Gonzo Has Answers
Well, in the last 24 hours or so, we've learned that we've got a spineless moron for a head coach. Actually, we covered spineless yesterday, and at today's press conference, we got the moron part covered, too. When asked at his press conference today why he chose to punt the ball away on 4th and 13 with no time outs and about 2:30 left on the clock, Brad Childress gave the following answer, verbatim:
"Based on the way we were playing defense, I thought we’d have a chance to get it back."
What. . .in the blue hell. . .are you talking about? You thought you were going to get the ball back? How? Did you think that the Titans were going to fumble the ball DURING THE KNEELDOWN!? Good lord, just because a team coached by you is capable of something that stupid doesn't mean that a team with even an iota of discipline is capable of the same thing.
A couple of other things from yesterday's game before we get to the Vikings' problems.
The call on the Gage reception on 4th and 1 in the second quarter was complete horse crap. After the replay, the officials spotted the ball a full yard ahead of where Gage actually got to. . .which was at least 3/4 of a yard past where he needed to get to. Between the fumble and the fact that he didn't actually get there, that call was nothing short of complete garbage. Yes, I know that the Vikings lost that game in plenty of other ways, too, but it would help if a big call in a big situation would just once. . .just once. . .go Minnesota's way.
Oh, and the Vanden Bosch hit on Frerotte was completely cheap and gutless. He took way more than his alloted one step after Frerotte got rid of the football, and then felt the need to shove his helmet into Frerotte's. . .well, helmet. Eh, at least he didn't follow it up by stomping his cleats into Frerotte's face, I guess, so that's a plus.
But, anyway, enough about all of that. This is where we take a look at what the Vikings need to do to make an attempt, however futile, to get their season turned around. I thought about making this a Top Ten list, but items 1-8 wound up being "Fire Brad Childress," which would be a big part of the solution, in my opinion. . .but failing that, here are a few humble suggestions, in no particular order.
1) Get serious about the "accountability" and "discipline" we've heard so much about over the past 2+ years
We thought this team was undisciplined during the Tice era. They were, mind you. . .but Childress was supposed to be an improvement in that regard. He's been anything but. Through the first four weeks of the season, the Vikings are once again among the most penalized teams in the league. . .27 in 4 games, to be exact (of the ones that have actually been accepted, that is). But it's not just the penalties. It's other things, like. . .oh, I don't know. . .getting called for delay of game not once, but TWICE, on the first play of a drive after a TV time out. It's things like having one time out left down on the 2-yard line down by 6 points and burning your last time out rather than taking what would be a good delay of game penalty that would move you back a whole one yard.
Well-coached players on well-coached teams don't do that sort of garbage. Tony Dungy wouldn't accept that crap. Bill Belichick wouldn't accept that crap. Neither would Mike Holmgren. Or Tom Coughlin. Or any other coach worth his salt. But for the last 2+ years under Childress, we've seen exactly the same thing that we saw the previous four years under Mike Tice. It hasn't gotten any better, and it can't get much worse.
If you're going to preach discipline and accountability, start walking the walk.
2) Cedric Griffin needs to sit down for a while
The most surprising defensive play of the Vikings' season was turned in by CB Antoine Winfield. But it wasn't his sack/strip/TD against the Panthers that I'm talking about. No, the play I'm talking about was Winfield's interception against the Colts in Week 2. Why is that the most surprising defensive play of the year?
Because it meant that an opposing quarterback actually threw towards Winfield's side of the field. . .and, more surprisingly, AWAY from Cedric Griffin's. Honestly, for most of the last couple of years, every time an opponent has gotten a big pass play, the quarterback looks for where #23 is on the field, and goes right after him. And, the majority of the time, there's not a damn thing that anybody can do about it.
Part of it is the fact that the Vikings insist on playing way more man coverage than they should with cornerbacks that aren't suited to play it, but Griffin has gotten progressively worse since his rookie season. I don't know if the answer is Charles Gordon or Marcus McCauley (if Childress ever sees fit to activate him) or Benny Sapp or who it is. . .but as of right now, Cedric Griffin is NOT the answer. And he might never be the answer at CB. I still think he could be a great safety if they made the switch, but he's not a CB in the National Football League, in my opinion.
3) Get Adrian Peterson the ball in space and stop just slamming him into the line
Yesterday, Adrian Peterson took a handoff from Gus Frerotte, made a move to the outside, got around the corner, and went 28 yards for a touchdown. When Adrian Peterson gets out into space, he can do some truly special things. We all know that. . .which makes it that much more frustrating that he rarely ever gets the ball there. We can run eighteen different screens for Naufahu Tahi, but when was the last time we put together a decent screen for #28? There's hardly any swing passes, there's no splitting Peterson out wide or putting him in the slot. We have the best running back in the National Football League at our disposal, and we can't come up with more creative ways to get him the football? The Eagles can do it with Westbrook, the Chargers can do it with Tomlinson. . .why can't we do it with Peterson?
4) While we're at it. . .remember that Chester Taylor still plays for the Vikings
Chester Taylor got 11 carries for 44 yards in the game against Carolina when everyone knew Adrian Peterson was nursing a bad hamstring. In the other three games of this season, he has a total of 10 carries for 37 yards. It doesn't matter if you have the best 1-2 combination in the league at running back if you only use half of it.
Hey, I've got a wacky idea. . .why don't we put Taylor and Peterson on the field together? Isn't that crazy? Nah. . .I bet that would never work. I'm sure that Brad Childress and his infinite wisdom would have come up with that already.
5) Stop trying to get so cute with the play calling
Yes, I know the offense needs to be more creative. But 3rd and 1 with the running backs and the offensive line that the Vikings have is generally NOT the time to go to a 4 WR formation and throw the football. Get your one yard, move the chains, and do something more creative on first and second down when the other guys are least expecting it.
Do any of you folks have any suggestions for fixing the Beloved Purple? Feel free to share them here if you do.
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How about get some glue
Our receivers can’t seem to hang on to the football without it.
The lack of discipline (as you stated) is INEXCUSABLE!!!
by mjmrad on Sep 29, 2008 8:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am sure this will start something
and that isn’t really my intention, but the KVB hit was not dirty. He was basically on all fours. There is no way he could see the ball come out, and he made sure to hit him above the knees.
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by Jimmy on Sep 29, 2008 9:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As I said over there.
I agree with you, that was a sympathy flag more than anything.
by Robert Rence on Sep 29, 2008 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not so sure
seems to me he led with the crown of his helmet into Gus’ jewels!
VikeGuru is a doofus!!
by Unclebillybonz on Sep 29, 2008 9:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't a dirty hit?!?!?!
Ummm, how weird that our QB takes a cheap shot and a Titans fan comes on our blog and claims otherwise. Look, we’ve been in the same division with the Packers for God know how many years; we’re not buyin’ it.
Has anybody ever noticed that the only cheap shots come from those wearing purple and gold, and that everyone else plays a clean game?
Just an observation…
by stilpony on Sep 29, 2008 9:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
right as usual
i knew i started reading this blog for a reason, i am kind of surprised, and i hadnt noticed, that McCauley is inactive, i thought he was pretty good the few times i got to see him play… how did i miss that?
What up?
by snakethejake on Sep 29, 2008 9:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Next 6 games
Looks to be favorable towards the Vikes,cant say this a blessing as I think most in part is due to Chilly being clueless.To tell the truth thought about getting hold of old Ziggy and just saying “Hey ill coach the Vikes for the rest of the season for 50k”.I cant do no worse then he has but can bet there would be a few benchings and would open the play calling.
Sundays play was the team giving up on Chilly,we have the talent just not allowed to use it.Birk hasnt missed a snap in as long as I can rember and in fact against Carolina he had his very first ever holding call.
I love my Vikes but this has gotten really bad,we have the players just No Leader,hell even Tice was better and would welcome Green back tomorrow.Anything has got to better then this non-kick ass offense that no QB can handle.
by speedlod on Sep 29, 2008 9:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
50K!!!
I would coach the vikings for free!!! What an honor it would be just to be in the same locker room as the vikes! We have so many good athletes is the most fruastrating thing in the world right now… not winning games. Whats worst is i predicted 1-3 in the first 4 games… We better show up against the saints cuz if my prediction is right again… im gonna sleep right through the week til the sunday after lol
by Macdaddy4508 on Sep 30, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Vikings should...
1. Continue to lie at press conferences about why they punt on 4th and 13, because Gonzo is way too naive to figure out the real truth about what’s going on in the locker room postgame.
2. Not annouce the new formation they’re working on, because Gonzo will blab it in his silly blog.
3. Pay no attention whatsoever to any of Gonzo’s rantings, because he just gets way too overwrought.
Yes, football: it’s easy as one, two, three.
The Packers were so smart not to have an experienced backup QB. That Thompson is a real genius.
The Bears have no offense whatsoever, and they are not planning to get one, since Lovey knows that offenses by their very definition are offensive.
The Lions have fired Matt Millen, so they’re obviously ready to win the Super Bowl now.
Lions and Packers and Bears, oh my!
by Elgar on Sep 29, 2008 11:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Again, whatever
Our head coach is an idiot. It’s really quite sad and disturbing that you’re happy with this fact.
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by Gonzo on Sep 30, 2008 4:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and if this blog is so "silly,"
Feel free to, you know, stop reading it. Or, better yet, get your own blog so you can tell everybody how smart you are.
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by Gonzo on Sep 30, 2008 4:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BUT at the same time...
This is vary interesting!!! Could you Elgar fill us in our postgame locker room reports or our new formations?! Sure Gonzo can get ‘overwrought’ but who can’t as a vikings fan?! I mean… If you got the answer’s i wanna know?…
by Macdaddy4508 on Sep 30, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This guy is a real piece of work
So what’s “really” going on in the locker room? Surely you know… I hear 1982 NFL game balls are just as good of credentials as press passes.
If this blog is so silly and shouldn’t receive any attention, this brings up an important question…
Why the hell are you still here?
Where I come from, post = care. For someone who gives so little worth to Gonzo’s opinion, you sure do spend a lot of time here posting and caring about it. I’ll tell you what, you go join Jeff George in fantasy camp and pretend that the coach isn’t the reason for this team’s shortcomings. The rest of us, who are smart enough to outwit a clump of moist soil, we’ll continue to recognize that this team has done nothing but either regress or remain unchanged since Childress’ first season and hope that the next game he coaches for this team is his last.
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by vikesully on Oct 1, 2008 4:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Peterson doesn’t have hands like L.T or Westbrook…..but they need to work on putting him in slot plays and roll out plays… just to add another dimension to the team. Other than run,run,run and then pass on 4th down to receivers who can’t catch
by Supabad1edy on Sep 30, 2008 1:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Stop using Berrian on straight route plays like he’s the new T.O. and praying for pass interferences
by Supabad1edy on Sep 30, 2008 1:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
EXACTLY!
They are doing the same thing with him as they did with Williamson. Aside from the fact that Troy can’t catch he is similar to Berrian in that they are YAC guys, not over the top deep Randy Moss type players.
Also, is it me or does most of pass routes seem to 10-12 yrds stop routes? whether its an ‘IN’ or an ‘OUT’ route, most of the time the receiver has run his route and stops which gives them little chance at YAC. The only routes that seem to have the reciever still moving when the ball gets there are the deeps fly’s, the TE seem route and the swing route to the FB out of the back field.
I think it’s just another example of the lack of imagination to Chilly’s suck ass offense.
VikeGuru is a doofus!!
by Unclebillybonz on Sep 30, 2008 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Needed Fixes
1) Find some better plays and use them. Did the screen pass suddenly stop working in the NFL? And as you said, Gonzo, start airing it out on 1st down. No receiver, unless it’s a screen or a bail-out, should ever be short of the 1st down when the ball reaches them. Ever ever ever.
2) Start wrangling NOW for high-picks in the upcoming draft, the Vikes need a franchise QB and a lot more speed at both the wide-out and corner positions.
3) Understand that Berrian isn’t a speed-man, use him accordingly
4) Shianco… gee, maybe there was a reason that the Giants were willing to let him go… if the NFL tracked a TE’s percentage of dropped balls, Shianco would be on the leader board. Look for a competent replacement.
5) Kicking strategy! If the opposition has a smokin’ hot returner, how about deliberately kicking for the 1 yard line and hoping it goes out of the end-zone? I know it’s a lot of distance, but letting the opposition start on it’s own 20 is really not that bad. Letting them get a hold of the ball tends to give them much better field position. And it’s really bad for my blood pressure when I see a kick returner run the ball back for a TD while the Beloved Purple falls all over itself like Laurel and Hardy.
6) The game is about winning, not managing. Whoever came up with the notion that ‘managing’ the game is a valid exercise for an NFL quarterback being paid millions of dollars a year, needs to get a serious boot-to-the-head. That thought-process makes winning an option, instead of making it the only acceptable goal. Gonzo, I’m not a Pack fan, but I am a Vince Lombardi fan, and Bud Grant was cut from that same mold. “Winning isn’t everything, it’s the only thing”, and “Show me a good loser, and I’ll show you a loser”.
by DCPurple on Sep 30, 2008 8:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hell yes draft...
I hope i don’t offend anyone by stating my opinion but i think cedrick griffin is garbage beyond garbage. Fred smoot! lol He’s soooo bad and winfield is gettin old. We need a young, fast, athletic corner who’s not afraid to put a hit on… AND when is williams suppose to come back to safety? is he still hurt?
by Macdaddy4508 on Sep 30, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
better yet MICHEAL VICK!!!
I would take Micheal Vick in a heart beat! You know noone is gonna want him… who wanted randy moss… lol but we took him! Best reciever we ever had! If we could get miceal vick i would say do whatever it takes to get him. I mean seriously, whats he gonna do? DOG FIGHT AGAIN?!?! lol
by Macdaddy4508 on Sep 30, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
and the twins can sign barry bonds.
What up?
by snakethejake on Sep 30, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
personnel
i agree that griffin needs to sit awhile. like one responder said, maybe mccauley? speaking of inactive players, why is our BEST reciever from the preseason, martin nance, not on the roster? makes absolutely no sense. maybe he didn’t kiss chilly’s arse enough?
if ziggy is serious about fielding a winning team, the obvious first step is FIRE CHILDRESS!!
by kagey on Sep 30, 2008 9:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pass/Run percentage says it all
Yep, interceptions and fumbles. These are the results of a 20 run/43 pass ratio. Why run the ball with a record-breaking back when you can pass to the league’s worst receivers?
Idiotic play calling brings forth idiotic results.
by liveforadrenaline on Sep 30, 2008 9:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I couldn't agree more
I’m new to your site. I appreciate the insight on the team.
This is frustrating being a Vikings fan. I live in Denver and usually travel somewhere every year to see them play. We actually went up to the Dome for the game against Indianapolis. Bad result but a very cool experience. Let me explain.
I took my 11 year old son with me along with a friend and his son to the game. We got to tailgate with Matt Birks parents before the game which was fun. The cool part was after the game. Matt came out and hung out with the 4 of us for about a hour and half. He was very forthcoming in his answers to all of our questions. All I can say is that Matt is a class guy with a good head on his shoulders. He spent a lot of time with the kids, gave them a signed ball, and he called Steve Hutchinson over for a picture. I’m sure he would like to stay in Minnesota and finish his career with the Vikings but why would he.
Childress is a joke. How long can he keep dragging Zygi along?
by marksa on Sep 30, 2008 10:33 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Yes, he's all-pro
But he’s also responsible for fumbling the ball at our 10. This goes more to support the need for more creativity when using AP, but let’s not forget he gave the Titans 7 points also…
by charlie13 on Sep 30, 2008 4:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely!
You are absolutely correct, discipline, concentration and mental toughness have been lost on the Vikings since the days of Bud Grant. Bill Cowher would bring the discipline and focus to this team but we are stuck with Coach Milktoast!
by TexasViking on Sep 30, 2008 4:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ced Griff and McCauley
While I definitely agree that seeing more of McCauley would be a great thing, I would like to say that I think the Cedric Griffin dissing is complete horsecrap.
Anyone remember the huge down- the- field pass that got the Pack rolling on the MNF game? Remember who had to come out for that play? Cedric Griffin. Griffin is a physical corner (have you seen the way he hits receivers up at the line?) and he is most definitely athletic.
What a lot of people don’t understand about the corner position is that you cannot break up every play, especially when you’re frequently put up against the other team’s best WR (which Griffin has been). It’s just not possible. There is a reason Griffin is on the field and it’s because of his big attitude (good thing at the CB position) and also because he can cover. I have yet to see Griffin get beat down the field this year. As a corner, you sometimes have to give the underneath stuff up in order to keep from getting burned.
Just sayin’, it might look like Ced is playing lousy sometimes, but it’s not quite as simple as his WR is making catches. As someone else posted, man coverage is difficult and the Vikes have to be ready to give up some stuff. Especially when the pass rush isn’t living up to it’s hype.
by skiumah06 on Oct 2, 2008 12:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with part of your post.
CB’s cannot break up every play! I would just like to see Ced. break up ONE!!!!!!
The guy plays 8 yrds of the receiver more times then not. I can run routes against coverage like that! I’m sure some of it is scheme but when you are routinely getting thrown at and completed on, it’s time it get in the wr’s face a little bit and challenge some people. Griffin is not doing this.
VikeGuru is a doofus!!
by Unclebillybonz on Oct 2, 2008 8:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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