So, What Do the Mock Drafts Have the Vikings Doing?
by Gonzo on Jan 13, 2009 7:10 PM CST
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Apologies for the lack of updatery over the past few days. Things have been busy with Honor Guard over on this end recently, as well as there not being a whole hell of a lot of Vikings news at this point in time. We're still monitoring the Leslie Frazier situation, and if any big developments happen, we'll have them up here as soon as we can.
I'm also attempting to progress in the co-blogger search. I think I have in mind who I'd like to extend the opportunities to, but I'm still mulling it over. It will happen sometime this week, though. . .Mrs. Gonzo and I are going on vacation starting on 25 January, and someone needs to keep things moving along while my internet access is sporadic for a week or so. So, those of you that submitted writing samples can keep your eyes open for that.
So now that the regular season is done and we're down to the NFL's final four, I decided to take a look at what the folks from the DC Pro Sports Report had up already in the way of mock drafts, and I wasn't disappointed by what I saw. They've already got a sizeable number of mock drafts up, and so I started looking through them to see what other folks are projecting for the Beloved Purple on April 25th. Keep in mind that these are extremely early, and underclassmen still have about 48 hours to declare for the draft. . .hence these will change a lot between now and draft day. But, it's always fun to take a look.
The Football Expert has us taking Max Unger, an offensive lineman from Oregon:
The Vikings may look for a QB, but if they do it, it would be most likely in free agency or via trade. Matt Cassel or Derek Anderson anyone? The Vikings should look to improve its OL with Bryant McKinnie's future with the team always in doubt and many questions at RT in addition to C Matt Birk being a free agent. With the top tackles off the board, the Vikings will take the versatile Unger who should come in and play center if Birk is not resigned or play RT, assuming McKinnie is next year's LT. Unger is maybe one of the most interesting prospects in this draft.
I don't completely hate this idea or anything. . .not so much as a C, but as a RT. I think John Sullivan could do a fine job at center for this team, and will likely be put in that spot of Birk isn't resigned. The quicker we can get Ryan Cook out of the lineup, the better.
DraftTek, one of my personal favorite sites, already has a lengthy mock draft available via their simulation. . .all the way through the 7th round.
1 (23) - Eben Britton, OT, Arizona
2 (55) - James Casey, TE, Rice
3 (87) - Rhett Bomar, QB, Sam Houston State
4 (119) - A.Q. Shipley, C, Penn State
5 (151) - Ellis Lankster, CB, West Virginia
7 (207) - Cedric Peerman, RB, Virginia
7 (215) - Jamarko Simmons, WR, Western Michigan
Remember, the Vikings don't have a sixth-round pick, as they sent it to the Eagles in the epic Kelly Holcomb trade.
Matt McGuire over at Walter Football has a two-round mock available. Rather interesting picks in this one, I think.
1 (23) - Peria Jerry, DT, Mississippi
2 (55) - Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest
Now, to be honest, I don't think there's any way that Smith makes it to the Vikings' second round pick. . .not if the draft were held today, anyway. But I do like the Jerry selection there. The Vikings need to start thinking about a potential Pat Williams replacement sooner rather than later. . .not to mention the potential prospect of losing both of the Williams' boys for the first four games of next season. . .and having seen a lot of Ole Miss games this season, I can tell you that Peria Jerry is a monster.
Many of these mock drafts have recognized that the QB class this year is a fairly weak one if a bunch of juniors don't declare. Many of the drafts listed in the DCPSR database have Georgia QB Matthew Stafford going to the Lions at #1 overall, and not a lot in the way of QBs after that. So, they have the Vikings simply adding talented depth to most of their depth chart.
So, other than quarterback (which is probably the obvious answer at this point), where do you think the Vikings should focus their attention in the early rounds of this year's draft? Discuss it all here, folks!
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I voted for other, because I don’t think it really matters as long as it is a OL or CB, or a DT. I would take the highest rated one of those left. I wouldn’t take a guy with any trouble with the law or who got suspended from his team for whatever reason. This draft is rich in OT so I imagine that is what the Vikes will get in the first round. As GM I would be happy with a potential RT replacement (either McKinney or the Rookie). If OT is the first round I would lean toward the secondary in the second round.
by vikedawg on Jan 13, 2009 7:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I like your thinking, but I tend to disagree on the needing a DT. I think people over react to Phat Pat ability and think that the Vikings can’t stop anything without him. If not for the screen pass he catch, Westbrook didn’t do shit all game and when Pat was out, the Vikings played the top 2 run O’s in the league and held there own quite well. You can’t say that Atlanta won because of Turner and NY didn’t kill anyone on the ground.
People also tend to forget, that he came into the league as an UDFA and didn’t even play for a majority of his time in Buffalo. If I remember correctly, he only played a couple of years there before coming to Minnesota in FA and has played there for all of 3 (4?) years. He maybe on the wrong side of 30, but he will play out he current contract over the next 2 years and by then, the Vikings will either have Evans step in, have a replacement ready, or take a 1st round DT when he does leave. No need to rush it now.
by vikingfuture8816 on Jan 13, 2009 8:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
DT
I do think we need another DT that can give Pat a blow, and to develop behind him, I agree it isn’t urgent but I wouldn’t want to pass up a good DT prospect. It needs to remain a strength of the Vikes.
by vikedawg on Jan 13, 2009 9:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, but
I don’t think they need to be looking so early for one. Guys that get drafted in the 1st are expected to play right away and most teams won’t start drafting development guys till at least the 3rd if not later. And with Fred Evans and Letroy Guion behind Phat Pat, I think they have guys that can both spell Pat and develop some game for when he does retire.
by vikingfuture8816 on Jan 13, 2009 9:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No matter what
The Vikings will be taking the BPA in the first round, no matter what position they play (out side of a select few maybe, MLB and RB jump to mind). But I think it is safe to say they won’t be getting a center and I don’t think they will be going after a QB unless one of the top QBs falls to them (NO TRADING UP!).
With the depth at OT and CB this year, I think they can risk taking one of each in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, so they wouldn’t have their hands tied and have to reach for one in the first and we all have heard how Chilli feels about taking a WR in the first and I don’t think one will be there when the Vikings pick. Would love to have one of the first round graded guys (Crabtree, Maclin, Harvin), but I just don’t see them falling quite that far.
Who ever they pick in the first though, will greatly affect how they attack the rest of the draft, but I think they should be getting a DE to challange/sub/replace Edwards. Love the guy, but he was quoted after the season saying something along the lines that he could have put more into the season, work ethic and production wise. If you are on the same line as 3 pro bowlers where you are considered the weak link and you can’t find motivation to get better, then what are you doing in the NFL? And I think it is safe to assume that he had 1 on 1 match ups on just about every snap this year and while he got a lot of hurries (42), he only recorded 5 sacks. 5! And 2 of them came in the final game which means over the first 15 games he only had 3 sacks. That is just not good enough. I like Robison too, but he does seem like more of a situational pass rusher/special teamer at this point then productive, every snap starter. He should, however, be cycled into the game more. Some new blood opposite of JA will greatly improve the D overall and could really help the Vikings dominate.
by vikingfuture8816 on Jan 13, 2009 8:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Great points
I dont even need to type anymore. My thoughts exactly. Thanks.
by RileysCannibalJct on Jan 13, 2009 10:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not that I disagree
I would like to have another DE better than Edwards. He was serviceable though and decent against the run. We should have Udeze back too, remember. Then if Robison keeps improving, I think we’d be okay to focus that first pick elsewhere (besides there is the history of first round DE flops). And don’t we always hear the “best player available” mantra for round 1?
My thoughts lean towards a stud offensive tackle. Cook took a huge step backwards this season rather than improving (much to my disappointment), and Bryant McKinnie is one stupid drunken act away from a full year suspension. The Vikes must address that huge glaring potential that would definitely affect both the running and passing games.
Other first day picks needed in my books would be a DB with tackling skills (loves to hit), and a RB that can take the #3 spot. Hopefully one or both could also return kicks, and both be studs and earn their paychecks on the return coverage teams.
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by Luft Krigare on Jan 14, 2009 5:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Offseason overhaul
I don’t see how there’s a draft-worthy QB for us at 22 and I don’t know that we need any other developmental prospects so I think you gotta go O-line. Adrian hasn’t reached his full potential in the offense not just because of a poor pass game, but the line does not always hold up in the run game, even when cutting them slack on the 8 men in the box issue. I know its not easy but they could do better. Yes Ryan Cook sucks, but let’s not forget Herrara is no pro bowler either. Let’s send them both to back up duty.
I like our D-line. Ray Edwards isn’t the brightest bulb on the tree but he does a good job as an every down D-end who just finished his first season on the left side. I think Pat has more years in him than people realize. He wasn’t a starter for a long time in Buffalo so doesn’t have the wear on his body that most 36 year old (?) linemen have. As long as he wants to keep playing he can be in our line-up for at least 4 more years. Fred Evans offers great play as a backup and Jimmy Kennedy has lots of upside if the light suddenly comes on for him (its possible!).
Somehow we need a #1 receiver. I hate drafting WRs in the first round so unless Maclin falls or something I say go after a vet like Housh. I also think Braylon Edwards would be a great fit for us and could be had for cheap. I know he was doing his best Troy Williamson impression this year but the guy has hands. I am a Michigan fan and let me tell you his hands were velcro all through college, and he put up Jerry Rice-like numbers last year.
Other draft needs I say are all luxury. Another solid tight end with size would be nice. A more athletic backup LB would be great. Or let’s go crazy and draft a player that can actually run a punt back for more than 1.3 yards!
by NYCVike on Jan 14, 2009 1:09 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
the whole off line cant be prowbowlers…and hicks should be taking cook’s spot next year dont forget about that. he did pretty good
by vikesfan4lyf on Jan 16, 2009 4:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Recent draft history around Pick 22
Just to think a bit about value and possible impact, here are recent picks in the high 20s.
2008:
20 Tampa Bay Aqib Talib
21 Atlanta Sam Baker – OT
22 Dallas Felix Jones – RB
23 Pittsburgh Rashard Mendenhall – RB
24 Tennessee Chris Johnson – RB
2007:
20 NY Giants Aaron Ross
21 Jacksonville Reggie Nelson
22 Cleveland Brady Quinn – QB
23 Kansas City Dwayne Bowe – WR
24 New England Brandon Meriweather
2006:
20 Kansas City Tamba Hali – DE
21 New England Laurence Maroney – RB
22 San Francisco Manny Lawson – DE
23 Tampa Bay Davin Joseph – OG
24 Cincinnati Johnathan Joseph
2005:
20 Dallas Marcus Spears – DE
21 Jacksonville Matt Jones – WR
22 Baltimore Mark Clayton – WR
23 Oakland Fabian Washington
24 Green Bay Aaron Rodgers – QB
And here is ESPN / Scout Inc’s player ratings for the lower part of the 2009 draft (the (last number is grade):
16. Jermaine Gresham* TE Oklahoma 94
17. B.J. Raji* DT Boston Coll. 93
18. Vontae Davis* CB Illinois 93
19. Brandon Pettigrew TE Okla. State 93
20. Rey Maualuga ILB USC 93
21. Everette Brown* DE Florida State 93
22. Russell Okung* OT Okla. State 92
23. Brandon Spikes* ILB Florida 92
24. Tyson Jackson DE LSU 92
25. James Laurinaitis ILB Ohio State 91
26. Brian Cushing OLB USC 91
27. Michael Oher OT Mississippi 91
28. Chris Wells* RB Ohio State 91
29. Percy Harvin* WR Florida 91
30. Greg Hardy* DE Mississippi 91
31. Terrence Cody* DT Alabama 91
32. Jerry Hughes** DE TCU 90
put a body on 'em
by RayBourque on Jan 14, 2009 3:48 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I am torn between an OT in the first round or a WR(especially if one drops down to us). I assume we will take one of these in the draft and address the other through free agency. The rest of the draft should be focused mostly on depth, some 2nd and 3rd round DBs would be nice.
by BeardedAxe on Jan 14, 2009 7:07 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
RT
Oher from Ole Miss would be an interesting pick for RT if he’s still available.
by VikingVol on Jan 14, 2009 7:41 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I would LOVE...
Oher. He’s insanely built and talented. He won’t fall that far, but in my perfecrt world where the QB situation is taken care of in the first few weeks of free agency and we retain that pick, that would be my idea choice.
Wide out is too risky in the first round, in my opinion. Unless it’s Crabtree, who is the only one I’d spend a first rounder on this year.
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by Manimal on Jan 14, 2009 8:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My vote went to right tackle, and it looks like the majority agrees.
I still believe however, that the first round pick is a moot point as the Vikes will trade it and possibly another for a seasoned QB. Oh, and congrats Gonzo on making the SI.com Viking home page #1 link.
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by NobleSavage on Jan 14, 2009 9:01 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Blind Side
Speaking of Michael Oher, you should check out the book “The Blind Side” by Michael Lewis. It tells the story of Michael Oher, LT for Ole Miss, who grew in poverty and was adopted by a couple of white folk. Its a good read.
My vote is for a solid RT. Ryan Cook is awful and is the weak link up front. I’d also like to get a punt returner late in the draft and a LB. I dont want to ever have to see Napolian Dynamite Harris and My Cousin Vinny Cirucci playing defense again.
by Spartan99 on Jan 14, 2009 10:32 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Oher
I’ve been meaning to pickup that book. I followed him pretty closely as a Vols fan when we were recruiting him. Kid has been through a lot and survived a lot of media scrutiny. RT is definitely a concern.
I don’t think wr is as pressing a need as some people may think. Especially if we can find some consistency at qb (big if) and if Shiancoe continues to develop. I know, ifs and buts….
by VikingVol on Jan 14, 2009 10:42 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I also think that RT
is the place to address. I’m intrigued by the projection of Alphonso Smith being available in the 2nd round. If he is, we definitely need to pick him up.
by skiumah06 on Jan 14, 2009 11:01 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Cliche alert!
I know it’s lame to say, but I think the Vikings should take the best available at the 22nd pick. The Purple could definitely use someone in every position that Gonzo entered. However, there isn’t one glaring position we absolutely must upgrade (besides QB of course, which we’ll hopefully address via free agency or trade since all the good QB’s will be long gone by then). So if there’s a great O Lineman available, I say pick him. A great WR that slipped further than we thought—take him. A great DT to learn behind the Williams Wall—yeah, you get the point.
by ericj69 on Jan 14, 2009 11:24 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
This is how we got Adrian Peterson. He was the best player available and had slipped down to us.
Ericj69 has another good point; we don’t have any other glaring needs besides QB and we won’t be - err…at least shouldn’t be addressing the QB situation in the draft. And NobleSavage also pointed out that we might not even have a #1 pick if we trade it for a seasoned QB.
by dthompson on Jan 14, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If the VIkes were to snag Laurinaitis, Beanie Wells, or Malcom Jenkins
I do believe I would pass out from excessive masturbation.
But that’s just me.
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by MilCardFan on Jan 14, 2009 4:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
(gag) . . . for me it would be the USC guys
I could live with Little Animal, in part because I’m friends with his uncle, but I live out in Oregon and I’ve been very impressed with the USC defensive guys: Taylor Mays, Maualuga, and Cushing. If we didn’t have to give up too much to get Mays he would be our Ed Reed.
That said, if we’re drafting based on need its OT.
put a body on 'em
by RayBourque on Jan 14, 2009 9:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I voted for CB, and WR would be nearly as good
OT is a bigger need, but one that can be filled pretty easily via FA. I’d love to see Cook and Sullivan battle it out for the starting C job if Birk is done wearing purple.
I was torn between CB and WR, although I think Sidney Rice could be a better #2 than we saw this year, assuming he remains healthy next season. I also think that a rookie WR has a better chance of winning a starting job vs. the current crop of receivers than a rookie CB would have of pushing Cedric Griffin into his proper role of nickelback and/or safety. Still, a rookie nickelback worthy of starting 2-3 years from now would be great and allow Griffin and/or Winfield to move to safety later on. Given how pass-happy some NFL teams are these days (including both NFC Championship game teams) and Charles Gordon’s value as a returner, it is important to have depth at CB. Finally, it is somewhat rare to find a great shutdown cornerback as low as #22, and since the Vikings plan to draft lower than this for the next few years, they should definitely jump at the chance to draft a top-flight CB should one fall into their lap.
Not long ago, I’d noticed that David Palmer was the only Viking to lead the NFL in a major return stat, way back in 1995 (I think others had had the numbers, but not the attempts to qualify). Koren Robinson was a Pro Bowl returner more recently (and Mewelde Moore was very underrated as a returner), but the Vikings don’t seem to value that role as much as the Chiefs (Tamarick Vanover, Dante Hall), Bears (Hester), and a few other teams.
I’m all for giving Ray Edwards some competition, but LE is usually a run-stopping rather than a sack-producing position, so there may not be a great difference between Ray ’08 and Whomever ’09.
by KC Viking on Jan 14, 2009 10:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
What the hell are you talking about KC Viking
Why in the world would you move Griffin or Winfield to safety? Did you not see how Cedric was playing the last half of the season? He was shutting people down and doing a great job. We don’t need a safety and I would not even entertain moving either of them to safety.
by JRockItsAllGood on Jan 15, 2009 7:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Moving to safety makes sense
I wouldn’t move Winfield to safety yet, but he is old for a CB and has at least 2 more years on his contract. Rod Woodson, Ronnie Lott, and many other great ones moved to safety, so this would only make sense if he loses another step in one of these next two offseasons.
Cedric Griffin improved a bit this year and made a couple of great plays, but the Vikings’ pass defense only ranked 16th in opponent passer rating (80.1). Philly, Pittsburgh, and Baltimore are in the top 4 with 70.4, 60.6, and 58.5, respectively. There is certainly room for improvement in their passing defense, especially if they plan to make a serious run at a Super Bowl. (Why bother fielding the 3rd highest payroll to be so average in passing D?) The Vikings may never have a high-powered offense like the Vermeil Rams or this year’s Cardinals team (which had awful pass defenses, ratings-wise, but could win shootouts and commit fewer mistakes than their opponents’ turnovers), but even if the offense were to gel, they would need a tandem of CBs who averaged more than 1 INT per year apiece to win it all.
Do you read Football Outsiders? Check this out (from their preview of the playoff game):
Game charting showed a huge difference between Minnesota cornerbacks Antoine Winfield and Cedric Griffin. The charting numbers show Winfield with 5.5 yards allowed per pass and a 67 percent Success Rate, second among cornerbacks with at least 40 charted passes. (Who’s first? Look down a few paragraphs.) Griffin has 9.0 yards allowed per pass and a 44 percent Success Rate, both among the worst numbers for starting cornerbacks.
Remember in 2003, when the Vikings had the 4th best passing defense? Chavous and Russell were the safeties, and Brian Williams was the better CB that year. Those 3 combined for 22 INTs while Denard Walker and Ken Irvin split time at the other CB position and grabbed 1 INT each. Compare that to the previous season, when the Vikings had allowed the 3rd worst opponent passer rating with Chavous and Eric Kelly at CB.
Griffin was a ‘tweener in college,where he played corner and safety then, too. With so few INTs in 3 years, Griffin may not have the hands to play safety in the NFL, though. He’s no Corey Chavous.
by KC Viking on Jan 15, 2009 12:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good Post
I’m impressed and agree!
by cutlassbob on Jan 15, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I marked OT….but if the best player available is a WR….we should take him. God knows he can be put out there to challenge Reynaud as a returner (if he comes back).
If percy harvin falls to us we better take him.
To whoever said a first round WR is a big risk: only a WR takin in the top 15 is a risk. WR’s taken 20 on down are not….there are a lot of productive low 1st round recievers out there……Anthony Gonzalez, Santonio Holmes, etc
by Hoss-Drone on Jan 15, 2009 5:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
What do you think about...
WV quarterback Pat White will without a doubt be playing a position other than quarterback in the NFL. His size would suggest it will be WR. He is rated middle of the pack at the position and will likely go in or around the fourth round. His speed and skills set (option qb) make him ideal for returning kicks and stretching defenses, or lining up in the slot and catching short passes with slower defenders in coverage. I see him in the mold of DeSean Jackson (but with an ability to throw – imagine the creativity – wildcat on speed)
I like this pick for its versatility. I don’t know how far I’d go to land him, but he would be a perfect fit. He brings something different than Rice or Berrian or Wade and could be the answer to our woeful return game.
by LoveHate on Jan 16, 2009 2:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
P.S. – my point is that its likely peoples opinions about low 1st round WR’s are soured by Williamson……..
by Hoss-Drone on Jan 15, 2009 5:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Excellent point
Really, it doesn’t matter whether QB or WR (or any given position) is slightly riskier or not. If the BPA plays that position and the team has an immediate need, then it’s probably the right way to go.
There is a lot of risk associated with a 1st round WR compared to some other positions, but at least the reward is equally high or higher. I looked up the list of WRs who started 10+ and 5+ years in the NFL, and most of them were 1st round picks, especially at the top.
by KC Viking on Jan 15, 2009 9:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think what makes someone a “Risky” pick is how much money you are about to give them. If that’s the case, then ALL picks in the top 20 are risky and everything after that is not so much.
My only real problem is that “best player available” is a subjective idea that is often colored by 20/20 hindsight (both back towards their college career and then later – back after they’ve had playing time in the nfl). No one can know with certainty who the BPA truly is…..its all just a guest which is what the draft is anyway. Then there are the other variables – who’s your coach? whats the system? The city, the locker room chemistry, etc. The BPA for one coach or system is not so much for another.
That’s why the best pick is a weighed decision that we HOPE is done well by the people who get to pull the trigger.
I just think personally that our top 3 needs are OT, WR and CB. Followed by QB and special teams returner. I would be willing to bet that QB gets handled in FA and at least one other will too…leaving the coaches to most likely draft the remaining three at some point.
by Hoss-Drone on Jan 15, 2009 10:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Vikes draft
I’m torn. I look at the offense and I know that something isn’t working there. But is it the OL? Why does there appear to be so much pressure on the QB? Why does Peterson seem to be stopped for 1 yd, 1yd, -2yds, then 15 yrds? Is it Peterson or OL? Is it substandard QB play or a badly run/ coached offense? Are the players lacking in execution or are the coaches making them look worse? Other than Berrian, who went into witness relocation whenever Jackson played, the WR’s are all role players. Rice has “potential”, but he may never develop.
Then I look at the defense. At first blush the defense seems to be strong, but then I begin to wonder if all is well. I still think that the D gave up too many passing yards and allowed conversion of way too many 3rd and longs. Sharper and Williams seemed to disappear way to often. Losing Henderson obviously hurt, but other than Greenway, how many big plays were made by the LB’s this year? Adding Allen was a big boost, but at times the pass rush, by the DL and LB’s, was too often a step or two late in getting the QB.
So, where to draft? I’m not sure of position, but I believe they need more playmakers. They need an Ed Reed type on the defense, someone who will not only make INT’s but create after the pick. They need a DeSean Jackson type on the offense, someone who can make something out of nothing. They need a do-everything kind of third down back, so we stop trying to make Tahi a playmaker.
I wish they could draft an offensive coordinator, because I believe that It won’t matter what players you have, if you shoehorn them into “your” offensive system. I believe in drafting talent, then customizing the offense to get the best out of the player.
All that being said, you draft the best player available. But I would look for a WR or a safety playmaker. I know they drafted Johnson last year, but you can never have enough DB’s
by triviaman on Jan 16, 2009 1:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
maybe we should forget about drafting a RT cuz we got Artis Hicks who can play that postion. He stepped in for mckinnie earlier n the year and did a pretty good job…lets get some game changing weapons like Harvin who can play special teams with reynaud and return punts…or crabtree who can just be a pure WR.
by vikesfan4lyf on Jan 16, 2009 4:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Kiper's Current List
1 Detroit Matthew Stafford QB Georgia
2 St. Louis Andre Smith OT Alabama
3 Kansas City Mark Sanchez QB USC
4 Seattle Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech
5 Cleveland Aaron Curry LB Wake Forest
6 Cincinnati Jason Smith OT Baylor
7 Oakland Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri
8 Jacksonville Eugene Monroe OT Virginia
9 Green Bay Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio St.
10 San Francisco Aaron Maybin DE/OLB Penn St.
11 Buffalo Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma St.
12 Denver B.J. Raji DT Boston College
13 Washington Brian Orakpo DE Texas
14 New Orleans Vontae Davis CB Illinois
15 Houston Everette Brown DE Florida St.
16 San Diego Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia
17 New York Jets Percy Harvin WR Florida
18 Chicago Tyson Jackson DE LSU
19 Tampa Bay Josh Freeman QB Kansas St.
20 Detroit (from Dallas) Rey Maualuga LB USC
21 Philadelphia Chris “Beanie” Wells RB Ohio St.
22 Minnesota Hakeem Nicks WR North Carolina
23 New England Brian Cushing LB USC
24 Atlanta Larry English DE/OLB No. Illinois
25 Miami Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Mryland
26 Baltimore D.J. Moore CB Vanderbilt
27 Indianapolis Peria Jerry DT Mississippi
28 Philadelphia (from Carolina) Michael Oher OT Mississippi
29 New York Giants James Laurinaitis LB Ohio St.
30 Tennessee Michael Johnson DE Georgia Tech
31 Arizona LeSean McCoy RB Pittsburgh
32 Pittsburgh Alex Mack C California
Kiper thinks it would be possible for us to get Oher…Which I completely agree…although reports coming out at the Senior bowl seem very positive so that might up his stock dramatically…fingers crossed over here
by middiststud on Jan 22, 2009 10:43 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
2009 Draft
I agree with allowing Cook and Sullivan battle it out at center. Though Cook was a below average RT (to be nice) he was one of the top centers coming out of college. I think we should bring in a top tier RT to solidify our O-line. Jorden Gross would elevate the O-line to elite status! This would give us flexability in the draft. The more I think of it the more I like Hakeem Nicks at #22. He is a great route runner and even more dangerous after the catch (he also has great hands by the way). He does not possess great speed but he fast enough and fits in perfectly as a West Coast offense WR. This would open up our offense and make defenses second guess about stacking the box. The rest of the draft would be as follows 2.) CB 3.) TE 4.) DT 5.) DE 7.)LB 7.)RB
by nmvikesfan on Jan 23, 2009 11:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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