Season's Over: Vikings Fall to Eagles 26-14
Well, the Vikings slugged it out with the Eagles for four quarters. They let up one big play to the one guy that they couldn't afford to give up a big play to late, and did nothing offensively in the second half.
Overall, however, this was a pretty successful season for the Vikings. They captured a division championship, fought hard in the first round of the post-season, and have a lot of things to build on going into 2009.
Oh, and for you newly registered Bear and Packer fans that are planning on coming over here just to troll? Keep in mind. . .regardless of today's result, your team is not as good as our team. You have nothing to say, and nobody that's interested in hearing you say it.
Congratulations to the Philadelphia Eagles on a well-deserved victory. We'll go over the game more tomorrow. Enjoy the rest of your evening, ladies and gentlemen, and remember. . .the Minnesota Vikings are the 2008 NFC North champions, and we've had a hell of a time here for the last 6+ months covering it all.
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Excellent game fellas. Just wanted to let you know.
by thwalls on Jan 4, 2009 6:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Great Game Eagles...Good Luck in the rest of the playoffs
The Vikings Just couldnt get it done when it counted…We need a QB who can make correct reads..unlike TJACK…and the Special Teams Needs HELP BIGTIME…A Good Wide Reciever to play opposite Berrian would fantastic as well.
by Tony_O on Jan 4, 2009 7:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Tough game guys...
Came down to a few places and we got lucky. You’ll be back in the post-season next year. Here’s hoping for a rematch :-)
by ajay on Jan 4, 2009 7:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It’s possible for a good defense to stop Peterson and Westbrook most of the time, but not all of the time.
by JasonB on Jan 4, 2009 7:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The season is lost.
There is no “Good going guys, you had a good chance at it.”
No, if you don’t finish with a Ring, it’s a failure. There was too much talent on this team for us to go out the way we did.
I think it’s safe to say that being a Viking’s fan is the most depressing thing that there is in all of sports. I have been a fan of the Vikes for 15+ Years (Since I was old enough to like football) and they haven’t even made it TO a Super Bowl, much less win one.
I just am tired of being a fan of the losing team I guess.
by Phenom507 on Jan 4, 2009 7:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Oh how you forget this team was 1-3.....
PLAYOFFS?!
by SSreporters on Jan 4, 2009 7:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What the fuck are you talking about?
by Phenom507 on Jan 4, 2009 7:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
from being 1-3, you guys made a great run to end in the playoffs at 10-6. you should be proud of your team, win or lose.
Who wants to play Leapfrog with Trent?
by anuj on Jan 4, 2009 7:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What is there to be proud of? A division title that led to a one and done playoff appearance?
by Phenom507 on Jan 4, 2009 7:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
true
but right now, the Detriot Lions would kill to have a one and done playoff apperance at home
Who wants to play Leapfrog with Trent?
by anuj on Jan 4, 2009 7:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, they'll be doing the same thing we will on Super Sunday
Sititng at home.
Whether you go 16-1 or 0-16, if you don’t win in the playoffs, you’ve nothing to be proud of.
by Phenom507 on Jan 4, 2009 7:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously?
You must be one depressing dude if you can’t find anything to be proud of in anything short of perfection.
by cheaptoy on Jan 4, 2009 7:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't ask for perfection, but at least once in 15+ years I would like a super bowl APPEARANCE!
by Phenom507 on Jan 4, 2009 7:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's fine
But to say there’s nothing to be proud of is short sighted.
by cheaptoy on Jan 4, 2009 7:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just very upset that the Vikings basically choked it away
I’m tired of seeing all of my favorite teams choke it away. I want to have a year where my team is a winner.
by Phenom507 on Jan 4, 2009 7:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
15+ years?
Damn, get in line. (-:
The last time the Vikings were in the Super Bowl, I wasn’t quite four months old.
But I’ll be here yammering about this team all off-season and all through the draft and training camp and pre-season and all of 2009 in general.
In the end. . .it’s just football, man.
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by Gonzo on Jan 4, 2009 7:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn straight Gonzo
I’ll be right here with ya, giving half-baked opinions about decisions people who are far more qualified than I am get to make.
And like I said, at least this team is set up for years to come.
by cheaptoy on Jan 4, 2009 7:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was 2 when the Twins won the Series, haha.
by rroan28 on Jan 6, 2009 2:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
15 years of Vikings angst is nothing
I’m closing in on 40 years of actively being a fan. I watched the Drew Pearson push-off and resulting bottle-throwing while at my late grandma’s house in the height of my Vikings-sportsfan naivete (about age 11). Its been a predominantly painful time but I just can’t quit it . . . . .
put a body on 'em
by RayBourque on Jan 5, 2009 5:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
32 Years
I wish I didn’t look this one up, but it’s ugly and true; it’s been 32 years since the Vikes last appeared in a Super Bowl.
I remember the push-off, and no one made me see more red than Staubach… damn, all that seems like it was only a few years ago, while the past 30 years of mediocrity is just a bad blur.
Not that there haven’t been some awesome teams along the way, we know there have been, but they all choked before getting to the Big Choke.
Heh. “That which does not kill us…”
I guess I’m just a glutton for punishment, or suffer the pangs of being loyal-unto-stupidity. Win, or lose, I’m a Viking fan, that doesn’t change.
by DCPurple on Jan 5, 2009 8:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
40 years
I was a little Viking’s fan at age 6 and have endured ALL the super bowl losses, so I really can’t feel for the guy that just can’t go on living because we won’t be winning this year’s big game! LOL
As much as I’ve wanted to pack my “fan bags” and just quit being a fan, I can’t. A true fan loves their team no matter what.
I’m still trying to figure out a comeback for the packer’s fans when we finally DO win the big game! I’m tired of them holding up something empty and asking, “Guess what this is? It’s the Viking’s trophy case!”
Does that get old, or what?? LOL
Looking forward to the off season acquisitions and the draft, and a BIG year next year!
by stilpony on Jan 5, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
39 Years
I’ve been following this team religiously since I first saw Joe Kapp throw his wobbly passes to lead the Vikes to their first Super Bowl. Is the season a disappointment? Yes. Was it a waste? Absolutely not! This team showed the heart to scratch and claw itself back from a 1-3 start to win the division and make the playoffs. Are we missing a few pieces to put us over the top? Yes, but the nucleus is there for this team to dominate the North for the next several years. We battled a tough seasoned Philadelphia team to a standstill. The difference was they made more big plays than we did and deserved the win. Our team walked off that field with their heads up and their eyes looking to the future. You’ve only been a fan how many years? 15? When you’ve suffered through 4 Super Bowl losses..talk to me. When you’ve witnessed the worst no-call on pass interference in football history in the “Hail Mary” game…talk to me. When you’ve witnessed some of the greatest players in NFL history walk off the field for the last time without Championship rings after giving their all for a game and the fans they love…talk to me. Those great players in Vikings history never quit on us and that’s the reason true fans will never quit on them. SKOL!
by purplegrey on Jan 6, 2009 9:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Plenty to be proud of
I’d much rather be a fan of a team that goes one and done in the playoffs, but is set up for contention in the playoffs for the next few years, than root for a team like the Lions, Browns, Rams, Chiefs, Raiders, 49ers, Begals, or Jaguars, who have basically no shot year in and year out.
Come on people, try optimism for a change.
by cheaptoy on Jan 4, 2009 7:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Especially a young team
It’s not like the Vikings are at the end of a run or their window is closing…
by JasonB on Jan 4, 2009 8:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch
As a Niner fan, I take offense to that comment. If you throw the niners in that group, you dont know your football history. Especially with the niners set up for contention next year with new HC, talented defense, and optimism in young rookies.
I came to congratulate all of you guys on a good season, but now i congratulate everyone except you cheaptoy.
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Jan 4, 2009 10:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No need to get personal
Maybe I’m wrong about the 49ers, but they haven’t been all that relevant for a good chunk of time now. I don’t see or hear anything about them as far as how they are set up going forward.
You need a thicker skin, though, if criticisms of the team (not the fan base) offend you.
by cheaptoy on Jan 5, 2009 5:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
THIS IS THE INTERNET! ITS SERIOUS BUSINESS
Just jokin around man. You don’t think I get enough sh*t for just being a niner fan for the past ten years? I’m just saying we are no longer in that lower tier of teams. If you pay attention to reports outside of minnesota, you might learn a few things about other teams and their progress out of the basement.
Check out Niners Nation if you are curious (shameless plug)
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Jan 5, 2009 9:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well put, cheap. we’re not THAT far away; maybe just a right o.t. and new special teams coach – and maybe a q.b.; tho maybe another year would season tjack enough.
opinions anyone?
thanks, again, gonzo, for a great site.
by kagey on Jan 4, 2009 11:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah it's tough,
but 31 other teams don’t win the superbowl either dude.
by jswen on Jan 4, 2009 7:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats to the Eagles on a well played game
It’s about time everyone realizes we need a QB. Jackson just isn’t our answer and he showed last week and this week. We need someone one to come in and play good every game.
I’ve been rooting for Jackson because he’s one of us and I won’t root against him on the field of battle. But, it’s over now and he needs to be put out. Or at least give him some more years to learn the craft. He just doesn’t have it right now.
by vikingfiend on Jan 4, 2009 7:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Good luck to the Eagles...
Unfortunately, this is probably the best it will ever get under Chilly. The play calling was horrid. As soon as something started working (ie: screens, roll-outs), they quit and went back to dives into the line which DID NOT work.
They NEVER put the team in a position to win. The defense played very well and deserved better.
Regards,
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by the Dragon on Jan 4, 2009 7:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I hate hicks being a kick off returner.
by vikingfiend on Jan 4, 2009 7:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Same. But we have Reynaud still, who is pretty good from what little he’s played so far. He’s just hurt right now.
by Frost on Jan 4, 2009 8:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If the BUM who coaches the special teams unit has a job the day after tomorrow...
I’m going to scream. Some of the mistakes they’ve made this season are unforgivable. I understand the players have assignments, but for the unit to perform so consistently bad is beyond belief.
by LoveHate on Jan 4, 2009 8:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
there are two very good reasons our ST sucks
Heath Farwell and Micheal Boulware(sp?). both were injured before the season begane and missed teh entire season. Heath Farwell was our best Special Teamer last year, and Boulware was signed in the offseason specificaly to make the Special Teams better.
thats 2 big holes on the field all year.
Will the Real Thor Please Stand Up ... ?
by the Real Thor on Jan 5, 2009 7:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats Eagles.
You did what you had to do to pull off a win on the road, and now you’re moving on.
Next year, I HOPE TO GOD, we will be able to do more.
by AustinVike on Jan 4, 2009 7:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I see no wreckless abandon from Hicks as well.
But Tarvaris isn’t the only quarterback to struggle against that type of defense.
by drew10 on Jan 4, 2009 7:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Can we at least get a promise that we will fire our special teams coach?
by keomr on Jan 4, 2009 7:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
we need a situation/clock management "coach" too...
the special teams across the board need much improvement and that usually means plain old good coaching…..there are countless “coaches” on an nfl sideline and booth….there should be a “clock” guru that stand right behind the head coach and makes the call in those situations…..imho
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by Skol!dTimer on Jan 4, 2009 9:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if you've been a vikings fan for long enough,
This is nothing. i’ve been a lot more heartbroken. we have lost to much better teams.
Green Bay or the Windy City..... There but for the Grace of God go I.
by IABerserker1 on Jan 4, 2009 7:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
98
maybe????
Green Bay or the Windy City..... There but for the Grace of God go I.
by IABerserker1 on Jan 4, 2009 7:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
conservative
When they got that second touchdown where was our sense of urgancy.
no down field plays.
by Holmenman on Jan 4, 2009 7:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I want to know....
Why they didn’t even attempt a pass downfield in the last 2 minutes? To me those little dump off plays they were calling pretty much said that they didn’t have the faith in T-Jack. Also, why give up on the screen pass to Kleinsasser that was obviously working well?
by PurpleSpectre on Jan 4, 2009 7:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Because the game was over?
What I want to know is why the fuck didn’t they just kneel it and let the damn clock run out?
Not possible to score 12 points in 18 seconds.
by Phenom507 on Jan 4, 2009 7:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
2nd and short
3 times we had the ball 2nd and short in the second half and three times we passed for incompletions. stick with the run after you gain 5-6 yards on first down!! other than that the defense played their butts off except for one play. jarred allen is my mvp. tjack
was decent ,but not the right guy for us in the future. 2out of his last 11 is just not going to cut it.
overall, it was a good ride and i am proud to be a viking fan. i thought we might get blown out today but, with childress as our coach we always seem to be in the hunt!!!!
It is a hell of allot better than 41-0 in 2000.
by norsemenxpress on Jan 4, 2009 7:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Vikes played one good decent half of playoff football!
Somehow the 2nd half slipped away fast!!!
by solafide on Jan 4, 2009 7:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm Glad We Lost! Here's why...
Adrian Peterson will get his rest and be ready to win the MVP next season!!! It’s a good reason, not a great reason, I’m just trying to be optimistic!
If the Vikes converted 3rd downs on Offense like they did in the 1st half, the game could have been ours. 3rd downs on Defense and Offense killed our team!!!
Any ideas on the futures of Birk and Sharper?!
by solafide on Jan 4, 2009 7:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
TALENT
The Vikes were the most talented team on the field at home and still lost. To me its simple. we were out coached period!
by Anxious on Jan 4, 2009 7:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Great game guys. you have a solid team in the making and your defense was amazing. Kept me at the edge of my sofa the whole game. Jared Allen was a beast. AP scared the shit out of me. Great fought battle and best of luck to your team
Who wants to play Leapfrog with Trent?
by anuj on Jan 4, 2009 7:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Good luck to your Eagles, your Defense played outstanding in the 2nd half!!! You guys deserved this win, now you better go and beat the Giants!!! What is it now, the Eagles are 8-0 in opening playoff games and McNabb is 6-0 against the Vikings…??? Man I wish the Vikes had your coaching staff!!! Happy New Year Man!
by solafide on Jan 4, 2009 7:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you sure you want the fat man?
yeah about the stats. I just grabbed my #5 jersey and put it on. Sure you want the fat man, maybe he has changed (loved the way he stuck to the run). If he has, then our coachin staff is great, if not, lol, im not so sure you want our coaching staff aside from JJ.
Who wants to play Leapfrog with Trent?
by anuj on Jan 4, 2009 7:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And i'm sure you don't want our coaching staff!
by solafide on Jan 4, 2009 7:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
your D Coordinatior is solid
nothing on JJ, but he is better then most in this league
Who wants to play Leapfrog with Trent?
by anuj on Jan 4, 2009 7:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
keep Chilly though
Who wants to play Leapfrog with Trent?
by anuj on Jan 4, 2009 7:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well played
Good luck to the Eagles, they played a good game. Great job by the Philly OL protecting McNabb…he had way too much time.
Too bad the game got away from TJ. I would have liked to see him roll out and possibly run for a first down or two instead of the sideline passes.
Jared Allen played a hell of a game as did Robison.
Chilly…..well, I’m not a fan but I’m not sure firing the guy and having to start from scratch with a new staff would help much either. The special teams coach needs to go though, the kick coverage is horrible.
I hope Philly can go and beat the Giants. I’m rooting for the Cards here in AZ now since the Purple are done for the year.
by AZVikesfan on Jan 4, 2009 7:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Finally
“Chilly…..well, I’m not a fan but I’m not sure firing the guy and having to start from scratch with a new staff would help much either. The special teams coach needs to go though, the kick coverage is horrible.”
Someone else who agrees with me. Falcons aside, its too difficult to win with a brand new coaching staff.
by cheaptoy on Jan 4, 2009 7:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Except for Tony "Soprano" Sparano
Miami went from 1-15 last year to 11-5 this year, with a whole new coaching staff.
We’ve gotta make a change, especially after this game.
Our D played great – absolutely fantastic.
Our Offensive was ghastly (except for the always talented Adrian Peterson).
When your QB is locked in the pocket against a team that calls 16 blitzes per half, you HAVE to start moving him around, or at least give him more options.
Maybe a 5 WR set? How about something else to spread out the D from stacking the line right down the middle??
I also think it’s interesting that TJack was averaging 8yds per rush, while attempting an absolutely abysmal 15/35 and 0TD’s. Philly put wayy too much heat on him, and Chilly wouldn’t call anything except deep shots (that take too far to much pocket protection) or inside circle passes (trying to flick it over a giant D-Line).
You can’t rely on conventional play calling in a game like this – and Chilly called an awful game.
I say…now that the season is over and I can jab Childress without guilt….get rid of Chilly, make Frazier the head coach, and find a new offensive coordinator with a sense of steadiness and a knack for calling good plays at the right moments.
40+ years of this shit is getting a little old…
by AustinVike on Jan 4, 2009 8:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I just want some better offensive playcalls. That’s it. If it takes firing Childress to get that, then by all means, let his ass go. I like that he’s improved, but honestly we killed ourselves this game. The defense was handling the Eagle’s offense, minus that big screen pass. The offense was acceptable in the first half, but wtf happened in the second Childress? How do you go from converting on 7 or 11 third downs to having 4 straight 3 and outs?
by Frost on Jan 4, 2009 8:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
5-reciever set? good idea – IF WE HAD 5 RECIEVERS, austin!
by kagey on Jan 4, 2009 11:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How about 5-Tight?
Er, wait, that’s in the playbook!
by LoveHate on Jan 4, 2009 11:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Um...
4wr 1te….
or
1fb, 3wr, 1te…
etc, etc. Available receivers.
by AustinVike on Jan 5, 2009 6:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
talent....
I would love to see taylor, peterson, shiancoe, berrian and rice all split out wide. How is a defdense gonna cover that kind of a set? Why don’t these bums have one creative play in the whole play book?
by njcathey on Jan 5, 2009 5:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Please don’t forget about Chester Taylor; that guy is a GREAT running back~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Leslie Frazier will be head coaching somewhere else next year, mark my words. I think we would be foolish to let another “Dungy” happen by letting him go. We should dump Chilly and promote from within. We’ve already seen what this guy can do with a defense, so let’s see what he can do with the whole team.
Any comments????
by stilpony on Jan 5, 2009 8:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Out Coached
As a vikings fan for over 30+ years, I have always supported the team. Looking at the last couple of years, our team has consistently been out coached by opposing teams and today was no exception. If the announcer can call the play the vikings will run next do we not think the opposing team can also. Our defense did a great job as a whole today but the offense did little in the second half. Credit the eagles on this and shame for the coaches not being able to make appropriate changes. You could bet the eagles were discussing changes to be made in second half. There is no excuse for the performance on specialty teams all year and by lack of any improvement, the coach should go. Bottom line, it all rests on Childress. Our offensive play calling was horrible with no imagination at all.
There are some very Excellent coaches available now and the Vikings need to go out and make the changes that will not only take them to the playoffs but the Super Bowl. Remember who was our offensive coordinator when we had the best offense in the league and guess what, he learned defense in Baltimore.
by vikingsfan247 on Jan 4, 2009 7:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Good points, it’s hard to disagree with anything you say. I just think it’s a tough thing to start over with a new staff. If we axe Childress, most of the staff is gone also.
I do like Billick, he was a good OC, but I think his days are already done.
It’s usually who you surround yourself with that makes a good head coach. And oh yeah, having a reliable QB can sure make a coach look brilliant or stupid, that can go either way. I don’t think TJ is the answer…and how many years do we want to give him to get experience?
I wouldn’t cry if Childress is fired, but then how many years would it take to rebuild a system with a new staff….seems like a vicious circle.
by AZVikesfan on Jan 4, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
AP
I’m guessing it would take more years for the new system to be implemented than we have with AP, and that’s really the issue here. There’s a legitimate superstar on both sides of the ball (more on defense) to be wasting them with more rebuilding years.
by cheaptoy on Jan 4, 2009 8:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
True, I would hate to have AP turn on us the way Moss did when he wanted out. Remember Moss saying he wanted out because he couldn’t picture ever winning a Super Bowl in Minnesota? I agree, we need to take advantage of having a great talent like AP.
by AZVikesfan on Jan 4, 2009 9:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
obligatory "troll" post
Even though I’m not “newly registered.” My condolences, Vikes fans.
Yes, it gave me great pleasure to see the Eagles win this game, but only because I want to see the city of Philadelphia have a meltdown when they get to the NFC Championship game again and find a way to lose it.
And I find it somewhat offensive that Detroit fans aren’t included in the quasi-warning. I demand fair representation!
"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."
by Mitchell_M on Jan 4, 2009 7:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Winning the world series might have mellowed us a bit
If the Eagles do fall short, the memory of that parade just a few months ago will help!
by JasonB on Jan 4, 2009 8:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Come on, you're an NFC North fan
You know how hard it is to hate the Detroit Lions. (-:
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by Gonzo on Jan 4, 2009 8:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Question?
Do Eagles fans get black out drunk and burn cars when the Eagles win AND lose, or just lose?
by AustinVike on Jan 4, 2009 8:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Keys to the loss and looking ahead
Today’s game was simply the whole season in microcosm — flashes of
brilliant play interspersed with bonehead mistakes that doomed a
first-class effort by the Vikings defense. Bevell’s playcalling,
excellent in the first half, was horrible the second. The Viking
receivers did a terrible job of separating themselves from the Philly
dbs the second half. When TJax did have time to throw nobody was open
by more than a half-step if that.
All that said you’re not gonna win a playoff game giving up two big
runbacks in the kicking game and throwing a pick six when the other
team’s offense had done little to that time.
In the draft the Vikes need to look for more receiving help. Wade and
Rice simply aren’t physical enough to get off the jams and Berrian
isn’t all that great either. ORT is another need although Cook didn’t
play terribly today. I still think Jackson has the ability to be the
qb of this team if he’s given a chance. He looked much better today
even with the mistakes than glamorboy Tony Romo did last week with
arguably better receivers by a mile.
by VikingBillArlingtonVA on Jan 4, 2009 8:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
#84
You also forgot to mention Aundre Allison. really what is his role? Sometimes WR? Sometimes Kick returner? He was beaten out by Hicks? Really? I had high hopes for Berrian, Rice & Allison this season, do we blame the WR’s, Bevell or our QB Carousel?
by DBQViking on Jan 4, 2009 8:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
QB Carousel
That had to be a big part of it. Berrian didn’t start putting up big numbers until he’d played a few games with Frerrotte at QB. It didn’t seem like any of them could get comfortable out there all season. Hopefully, TJack can learn some things for next year, play a full year, and lead this team deep into the playoffs.
I may be drinking the Chilly kool-aid, but it seems to me like this is a decent possibility.
by cheaptoy on Jan 4, 2009 8:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Allison is undisciplined and also runs poor routes.
Plus he had a bunch of offensive pass ints. called on him the few times he was in this year. The KAO version of the WC offense requires that the receivers get YAC. Are guys don’t by and large.
As for Sharper and Birk, it’s been clear to me that Sharper has lost a step over the last two years and Birk’s play has been spotty (not talking about the bad snap here) too. If those guys are due big payments in March I wouldn’t be surprised to see at least one of them go.
by VikingBillArlingtonVA on Jan 4, 2009 8:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
However, had Sharper been in the game he would have limited Westbrook’s gain on the 70 yard touchdown. His replacement jumped inside where someone was already occupying and allowed one blocker to pick off two tacklers. Sharper’s experienced was sorely missed in the second half.
by LoveHate on Jan 4, 2009 8:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sharper, Edwards, and Phat Pat all were sorely missed.. sucks for them, I’d hate that helpless feeling they probably got about right now!
by solafide on Jan 4, 2009 9:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, Westbrook is a joke.
20att/38yds on the ground. With a long of 10yds. So really, 19/28yds…
3comp/83yds in the air.
Am I missing something? Oh yeah, our D slipped up once…
by AustinVike on Jan 4, 2009 8:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He won the Eagles the game
Oh, and almost every player on the D slipped on that play.
by Nah_Roots on Jan 4, 2009 8:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You could say the same about Peterson
Both defenses stifled two of the best back in the NFL all day long… except for two plays.
Other than his long run Peterson had 19 carries for about 20 yards.
Would you Peterson is a “joke” as well?
I wouldn’t.
by JasonB on Jan 4, 2009 8:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll agree with that
I’m, at least, willing to give credit where it’s due. Both defenses were damn good today, and either one of them would have “deserved” the victory today.
by cheaptoy on Jan 4, 2009 8:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely. Other than basically one big play each, they were fantastic. Both played well enough to win.
by JasonB on Jan 4, 2009 9:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, yeah
Looking at it again, yeah, I guess I would agree with your point.
Got a little caught up in the whole ass-kicking, so I apologize. It’s early, and I’ve slept on it. I’d take a Westbrook over many other players on just about any given day.
It’s funny, after years and years, decades of the same type of crap from the Vikings I still get caught up in the belief that we’re actually going to make the push to the big show. And every time we get close (or at least closer than 20-some other teams), we manage to blow it in some way.
I think this game was pretty forgettable in the halls of Vikings history. Another talented team led by a hack/puppet coach and three major mistakes in a huge game ends the push, again.
It’s like being an f’ing Cubs fan…
by AustinVike on Jan 5, 2009 6:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Shame shame shame
Way too many pass attempts by TJ in this game.
Started going wrong after JA had knocked the ball out of McNabb’s grasp and the ball was recovered…
1st and 10, a short out to Wade, incomplete, Shank injured
2nd and 10, AP for 5 yards
3rd and 5, pass incomplete to Berrian, I think it was a long shot into the end zone
Now on the previous drive we had done three runs and out – but Philly had the momentum until Allen’s forced fumble changed the game…
So advantage us, momentum in our court, I can see why Bevell calls two passes to one run and goes for the big hit, but I think it’s the wrong decision at that point. Grind it out, push it down the field, keep our defense off the field – hell, if the run on third doesn’t quite get it, go for it on fourth, fire up your team even more – ’we’re taking it all the way, inch by inch’ – we’d get the first, easy.
Childress had been quite brave in going for it on fourth and short in the run-in to the playoffs and it served him well – ok we were backed up usually when we got to it in this game, but for at least two of those instances we should have gone for it as Jackson’s returns put them at the same mark or thereabouts…
We’d done well in combining AP and Chester up to the point. But after JA’s standout play and the huge change of momentum we go three and out thanks to two pass calls and although the punt put Philly on their 4-yard line, it’s a huge escape for them when we should have seized the game. From then on out we have two runs and nineteen passes to see out the game…
Either that or it’s the first penalty against us wot did it… Two incompletions, one shanked punt and then it’s their breakout TD…
Avant had a good game, got them out of holes when they needed it – all seemed to be middle of the field stuff where we’re weakest. Our return coverage was atrocious, and I’m guessing they mainly like Hicks because he doesn’t cough the ball up too often – he’s the dullest returner you’ll see in the game but maybe that’s what they like…
Which brings me back to the playcalling on the drive after the forced fumble. It felt like Bevell got too excited and so what’s obvious thing to pull out of the playbook at a time like this? A shot down the field… Yes they are needed but sometimes it’s best to keep it on the ground and take it out of the opponent’s hands not with a quick blow but slowly and steadily wringing the life out of them, which to me was exactly what we could have done at that moment…
As for Childress, well it is building round him and we all hated Shank last year and now it seems like Childress was right about him, so maybe he’ll be proved right about some other players we don’t think too much of right now. TJ improved a lot this year, who knows where he’ll be at next…
Sorry for rambling on, keep up the good work Gonzo.
by stantonwaro on Jan 4, 2009 8:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Everyone on the vikes played Really hard tonight and more or less really well against an Eagles team that is certainly better than average.
Now I said everyone “played hard”. Coaches dont play. So without beating around the bush any longer
KILL BEVELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He is a complete joke. 3 times in the second half it was 3 and short and NO FIRST DOWNS. Fuckin eh!!!! If we dont get rid of him tomorrow it’ll be too late.
by Hoss-Drone on Jan 4, 2009 8:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Too steep a hill
I do not think Childress is the dumbest person on the planet, or the worst coach in the history of football— but he just simply does not appear up to the task of coaching an NFL team into the playoffs and beyond. The coaching this season has been CONSISTENTLY substandard, with clock management failures especially embarrassing. I do not dislike the man— as I do not even know him. And I do not wish him any ill, of course. However, asking the players to overcome being at a consistent disadvantage in coaching— week in and week out (to varying degrees each week)— is just asking a lot, even with the wealth of talent that we have assembled. The poor coaching is MUCH too consistent to be ignored or wished away for the future.
by Sonic on Jan 4, 2009 8:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He has got to be more creative in the play calling.
We have good personnel, a good offense with plenty of formations and plays, Childress has got to commit to using it.
Third and short in pro formation, everyone in the stadium knows it’ll be a backside off tackle lead. The Vikings have gained yardage on the play more often than not, but never having passed out of that look, the Eagles buried it when it counted most.
by LoveHate on Jan 4, 2009 9:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As a Giants fan...
I’m disappointed the Vikings could pull out a victory, as the only team I dislike more than Philly is Dallas. However, neither team looked their best today. Philly got lucky with some exceptionally brutal mental mistakes by Childress, the Vikings special teams, and Tavaris Jackson. However, looking forward, I can’t see how Vikings fans couldn’t be at least content in the fact that your team, with a move here or there, is a step away from the elites of the NFL.
by squid92 on Jan 4, 2009 8:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
thanks giants
for beating the packers last year, and for bringing us one of your fans as our ownere who will spend the money to win.
by RaritanViking on Jan 5, 2009 10:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If the NFL wins in court we stand to not have either PhatPat or K.W. for the
first four games of the ’09 season which is something worrisome to say the least although Fred Evans played well inside today.
by VikingBillArlingtonVA on Jan 4, 2009 8:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
After today
I’m not as concerned about that. They’ve got good depth along the line. The rush defense wouldn’t be as good, but it wouldn’t kill the team, either.
by cheaptoy on Jan 4, 2009 9:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Vikings questions
So, a couple thoughts. Anyone else tired of hearing how our O-line is good at run blocking, but when you watch them it seems they couldn’t open a whole to save their lives? AP should be having more runs between 10 and 15 yards than he is, and doing it consistently. The big runs are great, but thats AP not the O-line. Gotta get a big right OT in the draft.
I am no great Childress fan, but its a fact he’s here to stay next year. With that said, so is Bevell, and I have no idea who is the cause for the sometimes really crappy play-calling, but hopefully it will get better somehow. Without a doubt though Ferarro has to go. Worst special teams coverage I’ve seen ever on a Vikings team, and crappy blocking for our returners too.
Another no brainer is at the very LEAST we need to find a QB to compete for the starting job with Tjack and Frerotte. Derek Anderson maybe? Don’t know if there will be anyone better available.
Finally we should find a way to sign either TJ Houshmandzadeh or Braylon Edwards in a trade to get a legit #1 receiver.
If these things happen next year looks bright even with Chilly at the helm.
Go Vikes ’09!! (ow, it hurt to say that)
by NYCVike on Jan 4, 2009 9:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Run blocking
We’re asking the same questions of our run game after this game… but the fact is that these are arguably the two best run defenses in all of football.
The Vikings are ranked #1 and the Eagles are #3.
by JasonB on Jan 4, 2009 9:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's right and you're also never going to run the ball consistently well
with basically six guys blocking as many as eight. If teams had reason to fear the Viking passing game it’s hard to tell what kind of insane numbers AD could put up.
by VikingBillArlingtonVA on Jan 4, 2009 9:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
One more thing before I check out is that the Eagle dbs
were jumping Rice’s routes all day long. The route-running by the wideouts is generally awful. You’ve got to put your foot in the ground and get that db to take a step back when running that drive route or he can sit on it. That’s one of things receivers like Larry Fitzgerald do exceptionally well and it doesn’t require great speed. Good route running can make up for lack of speed as has been proven countless times in NFL history since Raymond Berry’s day.
by VikingBillArlingtonVA on Jan 4, 2009 9:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That and have a more a physical presence.
And not like Allison pushing off all the time.
by LoveHate on Jan 4, 2009 9:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Biggest game of the year...
And what did Chili bust out?
Oh wait…nothing!!! Same old crap over and over and over. Hey kick ass offense guru, did no one tell you we go home if we lose this game? If you had one creative bone in your body, now was the time for it.
1. Still no AD and Chester at the same time.
2. We rolled out TJ maybe twice the entire game, even though it worked both times.
3. More incompetent 2 minute offense and freeze-ups on playcalls
4. No screens to AD
Oh, and one last thing. Brian Dawkins is a dirty f’in football player that speared almost everyone he touched today. We should have kneecapped his ass when the game was out of reach just to teach him a lesson. I will never respect him ever again!!!
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by mutleyil on Jan 4, 2009 9:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The last thing Dawkins will see next week is the bottom of Brandon Jacobs's cleats.
He’s a good db but he does lead with the helmet a lot. I like both home teams next week in the NFC round.
by VikingBillArlingtonVA on Jan 4, 2009 9:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
lol
I believe he knocked Brandon Jacobs out of the game the last time we played them so… probably not.
by JasonB on Jan 5, 2009 12:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He literally quit.
"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 5, 2009 1:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Obligatory Packers Troll
Not “newly minted” btw. Many signs point to an upward swing for the Pack and a downward one for the Vikes. You outscored your opponents by 46 points this year and finished 4 games over .500. The Packers outscored their opponents by 39 (7 point difference) and finished 4 games under .500. We had identical 4-2 division records. Does some of that boil down to inability vs. ability in close games? Sure. Is luck also a significant factor? Absolutely. Because, you have to face it, – if Crosby’s kick goes 9 inches more to the left – we would have been 2-0 against you guys this year. It’s a game of luck and inches – you had them this year and we didn’t.
As for next year – I’d take Rodgers and McCarthy any day over the mediocre at best Jackson and Childress.
Of course – no one will no anything until play resumes. Here’s hoping for a competitive race that, perhaps, breaks a different way next year.
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by rhys on Jan 4, 2009 9:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
For once I agree with a Packers rube...
I’d take Rodgers and McCarthy too!!!
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by mutleyil on Jan 4, 2009 9:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Come on...
You say many signs point to an upward swing for the Packers and a downward one for the Vikings then proceed to not mention one thing that has to do with the Vikings or their personell. If I’m not mistaken, you still have one fourth of a D-line, overrated LBs, and aging corners in a division with Adrian Peterson, Chester Taylor, and Matt Forte.
Aaron Rodgers is better than Tarvaris Jackson and Greg Jennings is better than Bernard Berrian but that’s pretty much it. Fortunately for us, it’s still not nearly enough to say the Packers are in better shape on the depth chart than the Vikings, no matter how much cap space you guys have.
by drew10 on Jan 5, 2009 2:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol Luck? So Aaron Rodger’s game sealing last-drive interceptions were luck? And, no offense, but if we get some one other than Gus Frerotte under center who won’t gift your defense with 3 interceptions, it wouldn’t even go down to a last second field goal. Have fun being mediocre next season too,
by Frost on Jan 5, 2009 3:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
childress
Good job vikes, you made it to the post season despite the coaches. Its time this franchise found a coaching staff that understands clock/game management, special teams, and how to utilize the talent on the field, as apposed to wishing and hoping you had the talent to run your preconceived notion of what a ‘kick ass offense’ should be. Also, Brad Childress, if you are reading this, what good coaches do in this league, is play to win not just play to not lose.
by njcathey on Jan 4, 2009 9:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and another thing.....
Has anyone on this coaching staff heard of half time adjustments? We had 14 points with 1:10 left in the first half and we had the ball. That was the high point of the game. This joke of a coaching staff wasted the time outs, the opportunity to go into the locker room with a lead and completely mismanaged the play calling. These kind of miscues are what separates champion teams from teams that shoulda been but never were.
by njcathey on Jan 4, 2009 9:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
right on...
i can understand players making mental errors, but in todays game, a coaching staff that makes such consistant clock management mistakes, is too predictable in its play calling and doesnt make good adjustments not only at halftime but on the fly is unforgiveable…i don’t know if getting a new head coach is the answer, but dammit chilly, take an honest look at your game tapes in the off season from purely a coaching standpoint and improve…..
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by Skol!dTimer on Jan 5, 2009 5:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Vikings were set up...
To take advantage of the outside coverage with double moves. Never tried it.
by LoveHate on Jan 5, 2009 12:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree 100%
Also, Brad Childress, if you are reading this, what good coaches do in this league, is play to win not just play to not lose.
by AustinVike on Jan 5, 2009 6:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well....
I have to say a lot of things with the coaching staff has improved. Childress’ challenges are much better than they used to be. He’s actually been winning some and the ones he loses were worth taking. They still have a long ways to go in clock management though, and the coaches need to be on the same page so their not arguing when they should be calling a play. At times the offense looks tough, but I think its more the QB than the plays when its stagnant right now. Not that I wouldn’t love a little creativity too.
by NYCVike on Jan 4, 2009 10:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
First of all, congrats Eagles.
You guys won the game, straight up. Good luck in the upcoming weeks.
Now that that’s out of the way, I"m really not that disappointed, at least not with the players. The defense was, for the most part, outstanding. I honestly don’t have much else to say, except that Jared Allen is fast catching up to AP on my favorite players list. I guarantee most other teams don’t have nearly as fun watching their defense as I do watching ours. Watching our guys go out there, kick some ass, and have a hell of a good time doing just makes my day.
My main problem with the offense was the blocking. Tarvaris made some dumb decisions, but much of the time he was getting hurried and hit from all over. Many of his passes were good, but were very well defended. That being said, that TAINT (TD after INT, if you don’t read Bill Simmons) was just ugly, he definitely messed up the timing there, looked left and then threw right without even looking for the CB. He got away with some other bad passes, but overall I thought he did okay.
That being said, in my despair immediately following the loss, I definitely questioned whether I wanted him starting next year. After watching the game (I was at work when I heard the result, watched the tape later), I don’t think I would be devastated if we brought him back. We’ll see what happens.
I love Chester. After seeing him picking up key first downs just as well as AP could, I definitely can say I would be extremely furious if we ever let him go. I also liked seeing Kleinsasser and Sidney Rice making some plays.
I didn’t think the playcalling was horrible, but it was definitely lackluster. You can tell whether we’re running or passing simply based on the formation we come out in most of the time. I like the draw calls, those seem to work very well for us, but there just didn’t seem to be enough playaction (although I will say that if we had tried play action and it didn’t fool the defense, Tjack would have been lit up many a time).
That is my post game review in a nutshell, and probably one of the longest comments I’ve ever written.
In AP I trust
by FarvaForTheVikings on Jan 4, 2009 11:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Your team isn't as good . . .
OK. I know that you said no Packer fans welcome . . . but geez. You’d think you’d tire of being the Cubs of the NFL.
As for the Packers this year. Yep, we slipped below mediocre. But we’ll bounce back. The vikes are the definition of mediocre, year in, year out. This, Minnesota, is as good as it gets for you. That’s why there will be Bears in Chicago and Packers in Green Bay long after the Vikings (ala Lakers, North Stars etc) head for a town that knows how to win the big one.
by wowzer on Jan 4, 2009 11:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Look Mommy! A troll!
And it talks! I can hear it mumbling, “Blah, blah, blah, my team’s not in the playoffs but I’ll talk trash anyways!”
In AP I trust
by FarvaForTheVikings on Jan 5, 2009 12:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There was nothing mediocre about the Vikings defense today
"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 5, 2009 1:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"We'll bounce back"
Keep telling yourself that. While you’re at it, tell yourself that Justin Harrell will pan out too, or that Aaron Rodgers will take over a game in the fourth quarter.
Congrats on finishing solely ahead of the 2008 Detroit Lions in the NFC North this season.
by drew10 on Jan 5, 2009 2:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Weird
You’d think people like yourself would tire of being self-righteous jackasses, too, but it just never seems to happen.
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by Gonzo on Jan 5, 2009 4:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's just crazy how they can say shit like that...
When they finished 6-10 and have been out golfing in Palm Springs for over a week already
Lower Deck Tickets on 50 yard line behind Vikings bench = $119.00
Parking by the Metrodome = $25.00
Souvenir Soda = $6.50
Being there for 296 = Priceless
by Skol Vikes on Jan 5, 2009 10:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
little cheese head...
all you delusional pack fans will need to decide if the paper bag fits better over, or under the cheese head cap…..you are pointed towards “slipping below mediocre” for quite some time to come…..
"Somewhere in Minnesota, a child becomes a Vikings fan and wonders if they will win a Super Bowl in their lifetime"
by Skol!dTimer on Jan 5, 2009 6:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My trip to sconny
I decided to literally set foot in sconny when I first visited Minnesota a few years ago. I started sneezing as soon as I crossed ths St. Louis River into Oliver. And the sky got real dark. And there was a lot more garbage in the street. that was interesting.
by RaritanViking on Jan 5, 2009 10:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What on Earth makes you think you’ll bounce back? Because you’re keeping Mike McCarthy? Or you’re firing all your defensive coaches and are going to install a completely new system? Clue me in, please, because all signs point to the Packers competing with the Lions again next year for the bottom of the barrel in the NFC North.
by Frost on Jan 5, 2009 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bernard Berrian
What I want to know is if Berrian is one of the top 5 paid receivers and supposedly one of the most dangerous….WHY AREN’T WE THROWING THE BALL TO HIM!
by Supabad1edy on Jan 5, 2009 6:09 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
JUST GLAD TO BE HERE
Great choke job, guys! SKOL!
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Jan 5, 2009 6:29 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
You stay classy now
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by Gonzo on Jan 5, 2009 7:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And for the record
Largely due to the antics of douchenozzles such as yourself, I hope the Eagles rip the Giants’ throats out this weekend.
At least their fans can exhibit some class. . .something that you and many of your cohorts seem to completely and thoroughly lack.
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by Gonzo on Jan 5, 2009 7:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
your vagiants are going down...
"Somewhere in Minnesota, a child becomes a Vikings fan and wonders if they will win a Super Bowl in their lifetime"
by Skol!dTimer on Jan 5, 2009 9:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
SKOL!
What the heck IS that, anyway? Isn’t that a chewing tobacco? Anyway, it must be… you got chewed up and spit out by a slightly above average team…
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Jan 5, 2009 9:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Slightly above average? The Eagles are hot and the Giants are not hot at all. Look at recent playoff / SB history: Hot Wild Card Teams have come in a won it all. You overlooking the Eagles is stupid!
by solafide on Jan 5, 2009 7:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Let the little bitch talk
For a guy whose team lost such an "insignificant" game to the "insignificant" Vikings in Week 17, he sure does feel compelled to run his mouth about the organization and its fans. He’s only been at it for 8 days now.
I hope that if I ever go to another team’s website and run my yap like this guy has over here that somebody has the good sense to punch me in the throat until I stop twitching.
Guy clearly has diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the mind.
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by Gonzo on Jan 5, 2009 7:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a solution
go ahead and flame me, but here is an idea I would consider:
TRADE Adrian Peterson to a team that would better utilize him – for a top-shelf QB or up-and-coming QB and a high draft pick. Lock up Chester Taylor and make him the Number One RB again and draft another HB to grow behind him. Draft heavy on the OL and DL and then assess the new backfield and adapt a new offnsive scheme to maximize what they do. Taylor is as good as most teams top RBs and is versatile and dependable. With a bonafide franchise QB, he would be easily good enough and AP would be the trade bait we need to acquire something to put this team over the top.
And I would also fire Childress today and open interviews tomorrow.
Go ahead and mock me, but I would seriously look into this idea if I were calling the shots.
by misterdizz on Jan 5, 2009 6:58 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Trade Peterson?
Are you on crack? This is not 1989, and there’s never going to be another Herschel Walker monster trade to build a franchise upon.
We do not, under any circumstances trade Adrian Peterson. The guy led the NFL in rushing, despite a mediocre offense. I’m still going on record that something the Vikings do, tips the defense off as to which way Peterson is going with the ball because the defense begins moving players to that location many times before the snap. That needs to be corrected. Peterson runs hard and moves forward all the time. There’s no reason for him to have a series that includes consecutive carries for negative yards. It’s either crappy blocking by the offensive line, or something tipping off the defense. As I stated earlier, I believe it’s the latter.
Get rid of Bevell, and see if Linehan wants his old job back. As a head coach, he wasn’t such a much, as an OC, he was very good.
As much as I couldn’t stand Childress earlier in the season, I think he’s done enough to warrant one more year as head coach. I will think even more highly of him if he fires Bevell and the special teams coach.
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by BaldViking on Jan 5, 2009 9:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no,no no, no.......nope
you keep peterson and taylor, and find some new starting tackles
by njcathey on Jan 5, 2009 6:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I will state this ONE LAST TIME:
Tarvaris Jackson has terrible instincts for a QB, and does not exhibit the level of awareness needed to play NFL-style QB. He has limited awareness, gets rattled far too easily, cannot properly check down, is weak at reading coverages, does not know how to buy time in the pocket and is erratic with his throws much of the time; regardless of the teams he has faced. He is not a fiery or charismatic leader either.
The ST coach better be canned by Tuesday night,
The HC needs to go and needs to go now, as soon as possible.
A proven HC (from either the NFL or college) has to be hired ASAP.
I would trade anyone on this team if it meant acquiring a top QB to build around. The NFL is a quarterback-based league and it is rare that a team without a franchise QB wins big with any consistency.
Rebuild the OL from the draft, lots of talent to be had there.
KEEP Chester Taylor. Yesterday, he looked more like a playoff-ready HB than AD did.
Dump the high-priced mistakes wherever possible and get a bit leaner and greener on the financial side.
Fire Bevell and send him packing ASAP. Not in a week, but now.
If Zygi doesnt wake up, I see the fan base shrinking, and this franchise will have no options but to move to LA or Toronto and then I will be DONE with them, after almost 40 years of loyalty.
Sign me,
Tired of Being Mediocre
by misterdizz on Jan 5, 2009 7:15 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
All true
And I’ll add that he can’t scramble like a pro when there is pressure in his face.
by RaritanViking on Jan 5, 2009 10:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats to the Eagles
Unfortunately, due to the actions of some of your players, I will not be hoping for an Eagle beat down of the Giants next weekend.
I can not stand hot dogging. There’s a difference between celebrating a good play and hot dogging. What Samuel did after his TD (It appeared that he was simulating masturbating with the football to me), and DeSean Jackson getting up in Childress’ face after his last long punt return are in my opinion, unacceptable. If all is right in the NFL, there should be fines brought down on both of them. Lord knows if it had been Vikings that had done that, there would be fines.
Also, Brian Dawkins is a cheap shot artist. I’ve always thought that, but his late hit on Peterson early in the game (helmet to helmet no less) confirmed it. Then watching him lead with his head on tackles for the remainder of the game was doing much to infuriate me. The NFL is a physical game, but there’s no reason a guy has to lead with his head like Dawkins does.
Trent Coles picking Jackson up by the head, and body slamming him, on Samuels INT return, was unnecessary as well. There should have been a flag, and there should be a fine as well.
A friend of mine (Who isn’t a Vikings fan by the way) asked me during the game, “When did the Eagles become such a dirty team?”
And Donavan McNabb’s little dance at the end of the game showed absolutely no class. He played well yesterday, but the dance was too much. I hope the Giants sack him about 7 times next weekend.
I’m disappointed that the Eagles players showed little class yesterday, but more disappointed that the Vikings couldn’t beat them and make it to the next game. Next year will be a different story, as the Vikings will improve on 10-6, but the Eagles will still have no class.
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by BaldViking on Jan 5, 2009 9:14 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
now THAT is a smart post
And I posted about the Eagles’ cheap-shotting, which, by the way, has been their MO for years, before I read yours. That cheap shot artist left the ground for a helmet-first dive into a downed man’s face. You are right on the Jackson block as well. Dawkins almost ended Ike Hilliard’s career on a late hit…
The Eggs are a classless dirty team and you hit the nail on the head
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Jan 5, 2009 9:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Did we throw a single screen pass yesterday?
Isn’t that something that an offense does when the defense is bringing constant pressure? The Eagles did it quite a bit and it worked (very well once). If Adrian Peterson is anywhere near the player that Brian Westbrook is, why not give it a shot when nothing else is working?
I just don’t think this offensive-minded, QB guru, kick ass head coach we have really knows what he’s doing. It’s one thing to keep a 14 point lead when a return TD and a long run gives you that lead, but shouldn’t you be able to stage a couple of come from behind victories in a season? Weakest coaching staff in the NFL imo.
by Bodysuit Man on Jan 5, 2009 9:32 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
You actually had a really good TE screen at some point… I’m sorry I can’t recall exactly when, but it went for a nice gain.
But T.O. and his sideline histrionics wear on a quarterback. He's like the hot stripper you tried to clean up and convert into a real girlfriend. It's a lot of fun until the moment she has her second drink while out to eat with your parents. You unravel quicker than she does.
by foos05 on Jan 5, 2009 9:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was cool to see him get the ball a couple time.
In AP I trust
by FarvaForTheVikings on Jan 5, 2009 4:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Admittedly weak
Yeah, there is little I admire or feel confident in regarding the present coaching staff. It has been an exhausted topic on these boards as far as the predictable playcalling and other failures of the coaches. The Vikes have a lot of fine players, but very few coaches who are worthy of guiding them.
It would restore a lot of my faith in this organization if they admit the error and replace Childress and most of the coaches now. The team has serious issues with the passing game, but they also have some very telling issues with coaching and leadership.
Will they be smart and cut their losses? Probably not. I will always love the Vikings, but it is very disheartening the way the last three years have played out. And, NO, it is not only about wins and losses. They need a real QB and some revamping of the ST and offensive playbook BADLY.
by misterdizz on Jan 5, 2009 10:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bears in 06, and Packers in 07 were flukes, but not the 08 Vikes. Number one in the NFC North in 09!!
by LoveBoat1 on Jan 5, 2009 9:53 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Three years with chrome dome and we've gotten better each one.
But to play hard all game and give up basically two plays, one on offense and one on defense was a turd. Hopefully in the off season we will find a solution to QB, add a bigger WR and beef up the OL. Jared Allen was a hell of a pick up and played his butt off in that game. Life long viking fan saying again there is always next year.
by Purple Helmet on Jan 5, 2009 10:50 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Tired of hearing bout....
All week philadelphia iggles experts were saying “stop AD and you stop the Vikings” Well AD had 2 TD’s yesterday( basically all our points) AND WE STILL LOST! Granted he didn’t get over a hundred yards rushing…but he shouldn’t have to. I pray to Viking God that Zygi wakes up and and gets rid of Chilly. Chilly claims “he helped develop Donavan McFlabb” then why has he had such a terrible time developing T.J.
Another problem i have is while trailing by two points….YES..two points…Chilly or Bevell or who ever is calling the plays decide to play a close football game for nearly a half hour(bout 3 minutes from the end of the 2nd quarter through the whole 3rd quarter) We played like we had the damn two point lead!!!! i live in Philadelphia and am a die-hard Vikes fan…so i really needed the Vikes to win this one. We lost to a team who aren’t even fit to lace up our shoulder pads.
I’m so sick of this tired, predictable offense…with our QB who whenever he throws a pass I have to cover my eyes and a coach WHO DOESN"T KNOW WHAT A SCREEN PASS IS!!!! only thing good was our D..except for on 3rd downs (come on, if i know the ball is going to Jason Avant..why don’t the vikings LB’s and DB’s) GET MATT CASSELL HERE ASAP!!!!
by Supabad1edy on Jan 5, 2009 11:29 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Farewell
It was nice chatting it up with you guys this week! I wouldn’t be too hard on your team. I think the Vikings have a great chance to be a great team in the near future.
If you can't sell out a playoff game, should you lose the right to have a home game?
by 700 Level on Jan 5, 2009 11:42 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
thats what i was getting at
If you can't sell out a playoff game, should you lose the right to have a home game?
by 700 Level on Jan 5, 2009 12:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the extra game
We did better than I thought we would – imagine what we could do with a Coach and a QB – Wow!! back in 09 draft is in April just another Viking season.
The Eye
by Village Viking on Jan 5, 2009 2:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
See you in 09 when we have Matt Cassell and Mike Shanahan!!!
by Supabad1edy on Jan 5, 2009 6:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Cassell is overhyped...
Giving the farm to NE for him, to come into a new system with considerably worse receivers won’t work!
Think about it, for Cassell we’d give up two 1st rounders and tons of money. We may even have to trade them EJ or CTaylor or someone else? Not at all a reasonable option.
Find Culpepper, we tore us up at Detroit and at least he would sell tickets.
by solafide on Jan 5, 2009 7:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Draft O-Line
Ditto-Philly o-line looked great. We need to draft on the right side, including a guard.
My hopes for T-Jax growing up after the benching were dashed. Sign or draft a QB that can read defenses.
Run Chester more and telling AP to always be patient is stupid. Hit the hole even if it is small. They don’t always get bigger!
Prediction-Watch for Farve rumors to come out again. He didn’t want to go to the J-E-T-S Jets.
He blew this thing to get released. His shoulder is not that bad.Jets don’t owe a draft pick to GB if he is a FA. Brett signs with Vikes and we ride a year hoping an aging star leads us to glory. I don’t like it, but I really think it might happen. A new coach in NY will not want to start with an old QB-even if it is Brett.
by CitrusFLViking on Jan 7, 2009 10:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Where are the great coaches?
It’s amazing to me that there isn’t a better system for growing decent NFL-grade coaches. I’m a Pack fan, and I don’t think McCarthy was ready either. And Chilly doesn’t know how to read a clock, for cripes sake.
Maybe with a decent system for growing your next coach within your own organization, there wouldn’t be so much of this “three years and out” constant rebuilding crap. If I was a Lions fan and had to watch a new coach muddle along every couple years, I’d start watching pro soccer.
by wowzer on Jan 7, 2009 11:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

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