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A "Drive" That Exemplifies My Frustration w/ Childress

The end of the first half.

Vikes ball, 1st and 10 on our own 13. 1:10 left. Eagles have one timeout.

I figure as conservative as Chilly is, we'll run out the clock and go into half-time down by two. No biggie.

Play 1: Run Chester up the middle, no gain. Cool - we sure don't want to punt down here and give Philly a chance to score before half!

Play 2 (2nd and 10, :37): Pass short right, incomplete, clock stops. Wait... what?? A pass? A SHORT pass??? Did the coaching staff think that the run up the middle on 1st down was going to fool the Eagles and go for 20-30 yards? Did they hope Wade would get out of bounds gaining 3 yards so they could push it up the field in 15 3-yd increments in 37 seconds? Did they hope to run out the clock with a short pass...?

Play 3 (3rd & 10, :34): Well, the incomplete pass gobbled up all of 3 seconds. Since 2nd down wasn't a run to keep the clock rolling,  I guess Chilly & Co are going to try to be aggressive here and move the ball. Might as well try to get a first down since the Eagles still have one time out. Wrong! Let's fool everyone and run it off the left tackle! Oh, wait - only 3 yards on that play. Timeout, Eagles.

Vikes punt, leaving the Eagles at their 44. They need about 20 yards to get into field goal range, with :18 left. It came down to a diving tackle by Greenway to keep Westbrook in bounds to avoid giving up a potential FG.

Does anyone agree with the call for the Vikes to pass it on second down? Can someone please give me some insight into the potential gain of a short pass in that situation? Sure, it might have been the checkdown guy that TJ went to, but why not just run the clock out?

 

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I'm sure the thinking was...

I’m guessing Childress called a simple out call to get the ball in space – a relatively short pass that is a high percentage catch. Unfortunately, Jackson threw it into the ground, stopping the clock. I honestly had no problem with the call after I thought about it (I was mad at the time, however, so I can agree), and our defense was good enough to stop the Eagles. Aside from a few good plays, defense was our only strong point yesterday.

To reiterate, I believe it was a high percentage pass to get a receiver in space to work against the secondary. Tarvaris just threw it into the ground. He did that a lot yesterday.

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by Manimal on Jan 5, 2009 8:15 AM CST reply actions  

I remember Wade dropping it, actually. The ball was catchable, the guy just didn’t haul it in.

by Frost on Jan 5, 2009 8:17 AM CST up reply actions  

If that's the case...

If that’s the case, then it’s on Wade. I really didn’t recall. Just going off of Tarvaris’ stats mostly, and I’m feeling too lazy to look anything specific up.

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by Manimal on Jan 5, 2009 8:37 AM CST up reply actions  

It was a pretty bad throw.

Wade could have caught it, but it would have stopped any momentum he had because it was at his knees. Either way, Childress needs to learn how his actions will affect the clock if the plays go well AND if they don’t go as planned. It’s like he only assumes that whatever he calls is going to work as planned. And after this season, I really hope he’s not that dumb.

by Eric J. Thompson on Jan 5, 2009 5:51 PM CST up reply actions  

This is why you don't put the ball in the air in that situation then...

As Chuck Noll used to say about passing plays “Only three things can happen, and two of them are bad”. (Completion, Incompletion, Interception) If you’re trying to run out the clock, which is what it looked like they were doing, why even take a chance of an incompletion? Jackson already had one of his “simple” out routes picked off and returned for a TD. Why tempt fate?

If you simply run the ball up the middle a couple of times for no gain you run out the clock. Your only home run hitter on offense is Adrian, so why not give him three shots to break a long one and score? At least then you don’t put it on the defense to keep the Eagles from gaining 10 yards.

It was an epically stupid call given the time, score, and situation (i.e. The Vikings had the first possession in the second half).

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by fourstick on Jan 5, 2009 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

There's nothing to understand

Bevell and Childress don’t have a clue about managing a two minute offense. Period. You’re being generous to them thinking they had a NFL caliber plan in place.

by RaritanViking on Jan 5, 2009 10:00 AM CST reply actions  

In the beginner's mind, there are many options.

In the expert’s mind, there are few. RaritanViking is absolutely right. These guys are completely clueless. They flail in their decision making at every turn. Too bad they don’t just fire the whole staff.

by chacabuco on Jan 5, 2009 11:41 AM CST up reply actions  

That pass on second down was a joke. Chilly always has that ‘what is happening?’ look on his face. Deer in the headlights….
Poor, poor, poor clock management. Hard to understand how some of these guys are at a professional level in coaching. It might be understandable if it just happened once or twice, but it’s been this way all year.

by AZVikesfan on Jan 5, 2009 10:25 AM CST reply actions  

On TV

The cameras panned to Childress talking to one of his assistants during this series and, I’m not sure who it was, but the assistant was voicing his opinion to Childress and he (the assistant) seemed pretty frustrated by it all. And then I could read Childress’ reply to the assistant, he said, “They only have one timeout.” What that hell that means, you tell me.

by iowa_cyclone on Jan 5, 2009 10:57 AM CST reply actions  

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