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Vikings Survive (But Barely)

The first two offensive drives of the game for the Vikings? Dominant. The first half defensive effort? Very impressive. The defensive line? Quite good.

The defense's performance in the fourth quarter? An absolute embarrassment. An absolute collapse.

That's the kind of day it was.

And after a heart-stopping game, the record remains perfect as the Vikings get ready to face Pittsburgh next week.

On the offensive side of the ball, Brett Favre and Adrian Peterson came out with all guns blazing. Favre was targeting Visanthe Shiancoe and Sidney Rice, and things were looking way too easy for the Vikes. Two drives resulted in two touchdowns, and there was still a great deal of time remaining in the first quarter after those quick strikes.

And then, complacency set in. The Vikings would have four more offensive drives in the first half, three of which resulted in three-and-outs. They played not to lose, rather than playing to win. Rice and Shiancoe had been hot -- but they vanished after those first two drives. The Baltimore defense tightened up on the running game. After working to reestablish the running game at the outset of the second half, the Vikings were rewarded with a field goal and a 17-3 lead. But all of a sudden, a 22-yard Ray Rice touchdown put the Ravens within seven. We had a ballgame.

Sidney, though, reappeared in a big way. A 63-yard connection from Favre to Rice put the Vikings inside the 10, and although the drive didn't conclude in the endzone, an easy field goal by Ryan Longwell gave the Vikings some breathing room. The Vikings extended that lead to 17 on their next offensive drive. A commanding lead.

Or was it commanding? Well, theoretically, a 17-point lead in the fourth quarter is a commanding one. But if your defense proceeds to humiliate itself in front of a home crowd, such a lead is hardly commanding.

And indeed, Leslie Frazier should be embarrassed after Vikings fans witnessed one of the most stunning defensive collapses I've ever seen. Three touchdowns by the Ravens in the fourth quarter. Unreal. The pass coverage was absolutely pathetic. The absence of Antoine Winfield had a lot to do with that, but then again, giving up three touchdowns and the lead in the fourth quarter can hardly be blamed only on the absence of one player.

(Oh yeah, along the way Adrian Peterson stopped the heart of every single Vikings fan by limping off the field in the fourth quarter. Percy Harvin also re-injured his shoulder. It was that kind of game.)

But Brett Favre has been big in the fourth quarter before, and today, he was big once again. Favre-to-Rice, 58 yards, inside the Baltimore 20. Longwell knocks it through. Despite the defense's best efforts to lay down and die on Baltimore's final possession of the game, Steven Hauschka missed a potential game-winning field goal.

Game. Whew.

6-0 is the record. Thankfully, there isn't a category in the standings for games that teams should have lost but ended up winning anyway. Amazingly, the Vikings head into Pittsburgh undefeated.

But I've got three words to describe this game: Complacency, complacency, complacency. The offensive playcalling became complacent after two quick touchdown drives. They played not to lose instead of playing to win. Shiancoe and Rice were hot early on, but after the quick start, they were ignored for much of the second and third quarters. The defense became embarrassingly complacent after the Vikings captured a three-score lead in the second half. Frazier had better hope teams don't look at this film when doing their head coach hiring this offseason. To be fair, the loss of Winfield was huge -- but the pass defense had been suspect even before this disaster.

We saw the same script against Green Bay -- not to the extent that we saw it today, but we have nevertheless identified a horrible weakness of this team. The inability to put teams away. The tendency to allow them to hang around.

The Ravens are a good team. We should have expected a close game. But the Vikings missed numerous chances to put Baltimore away. And there is no excuse for blowing a 17-point lead in the fourth quarter. Baltimore was given every opportunity to hang around, and good teams will take full advantage when given such an opportunity.

Not a win worth celebrating -- not by any means. But the record remains perfect.

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I am going to try to forget this game ever happened...

the 4th quarter defense was downright embarrassing

by solafide on Oct 18, 2009 4:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Offense complacent..

they run what they’re given – Playcalling complacent – of yeah. Pass defense non existent.

by jshep on Oct 18, 2009 4:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sure, Winfield’s presence was missed, but this game was also a lesson in how much better it could be with Winfield back and another position in the secondary upgraded.

I know some will say that the Vikings’ pass defense only gives up points in “garbage time,” but having a lead should not be considered garbage time. A lead is something to protect, to nurture, to cherish, to own…like a puppy.

by KC Viking on Oct 18, 2009 4:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well said...

One team’s garbage time is another’s 4th Quarter!

by LoveHate on Oct 18, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Frazier runs a variation of the Tampa Cover 2 scheme.

In that soft zone look the seam route down the hash marks is nearly always open. And if you’re going to blitz you have to get to the qb. That said, Joe Flacco’s a helluva qb who made some great throws. Further, the problem wasn’t as much with the Vikes coverage as it was with the db’s incredibly poor tackling.

by VikingBillArlingtonVA on Oct 18, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right.
In that soft zone look the seam route down the hash marks is nearly always open…

This is why I don’t like ANY of the Vikings’ coaches very well right now. They are so married to systems that they totally abandon the idea of throwing a change-up often enough to matter, and they refuse to upgrade their personnel on the merits of ability and skills rather than knowledge of/time in their system(s).

Only Todd Heap’s catch was in the seam on the highlight reel. The replays I saw were mostly on the sidelines, including one play when NOBODY covered Mason (you know, their #1 WR) on an easy slant. Cedric Griffin was nearby on that one, of course. There are simply times when man-to-man D must be played and when players need to be selected for skills and techniques (i.e., not signing Paymah since he apparently preferred to play with his back to the receiver in this game).

Think of it this way:
The Bengals didn’t have the best secondary performance anyway, so we can’t be surprised.
The Broncos gave up tons of passing yards while Paymah was there, so who’s surprised?

by KC Viking on Oct 18, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point

nothing wrong with systems but a certain inflexibility (or lack of creativity) seems to be hurting the team. This team is so talented. But in the end, I’m afraid that coaching will hold them back. Level of play is simply too high at the pros to rely only on talent and execution. Strategy is needed, too.

by uncle rico on Oct 18, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We're 6-0, Right?

I certainly don’t feel it. Yeah, yeah, I know we take wins however we can get them. Whoever said, “it’s better to be lucky than good” must have been a sports fan. I am so sick of this Jekyll-and-Hyde defense. Flacco was torching them so bad in the fourth, Chilly had an army of fire extinguishers at hand. I can take a little solace in the fact Favre and Peterson fried the Ravens and if the Ravens hadn’t forced the Vikings to settle for field goals instead of touchdowns, the Ravens would have been already beaten. Next is the Steelers. Great, Ben…Rottenburger, or…hell, just Big Ben, must be salavating at the thought of the barbeque pit he’s going to turn the Vikings secondary into. But…their field goal kicker missed two against the Bears, so there is hope.

I need a refill of optimism.

by Purple And Gold Forever on Oct 18, 2009 4:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He won't be roasting marshmallows back there the way he did today

of course they’ll look at the game film and call screens

by Salty on Oct 18, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The pass D was good for 3 quarters then ran out of gas

Also Karl Paymah may not be that good. We’ll see if he gets better… Griffen plays better with Winfield, but some of those passes to Mason were darts.

 Is Madeau Williams worth the money he is being paid?

Our LBs our awesome but they could be a bit better in pass coverage, but the bulk of the blame for the collapse is on the DBs. The line got all kind of pressure and made Flacco throw before he wanted to and didn’t attack the ball or adjust to it. Letting guys a foot within your reach to make catch after catch is unacceptable.

They will learn to close games out and attck more late. Its still early in the season.

Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!

by VikesPma on Oct 18, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was repeatedly asking myself why Paymah was out there all game, since I had no idea Winfield was out. I’m willing to bet that next week HE’s going to be the one inactive and Asher Allen will be playing. Honestly, he won’t do much worse than Paymah. He was definitely the weak link on defense. We need to keep that man off the field except on special teams plays.

by Frost on Oct 18, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To be fair to Paymah...

That one TD against him that was underthrown was a damn good throw/catch. The rest of the throws….. ow.

by JasonAve6413 on Oct 18, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't get it

Asher Allen looked decent all preseason and yet he’s been inactive almost all year. Paymah has never ever been considered starting CB material in this league, just special teams. Why did Childress choose this guy to be the backup? But also to be fair to Paymah, he’s technically only in the game because of injuries to two of the CBs ahead of him.

by Jayrome007 on Oct 18, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he’s technically only in the game because of injuries to two of the CBs ahead of him

I think you said it right there. Paymah is great on special teams and that is why he was active; I really, really doubt the Vikings expected to have to use him in coverage.

by cutlassbob on Oct 18, 2009 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Madeau Williams question is the one that gets me. He was supposed to be a solid veteran to anchor that end of the secondary and so far he doesn’t seem to show up except to pick up his paycheck.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Oct 18, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He showed up last year after that injury. Maybe he’s just one of those players that don’t really hit their stride until mid-season.

by Frost on Oct 18, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or is it the scheme?

Sharper is a different player this year in NO. Scheme? Chance? I can’t say for certain. All I know is the passing defense is terrible. Since teams can’t run on the Vikes, they will pass for sure. Yikes Vikes.

by uncle rico on Oct 18, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't run?

Now, I haven’t seen the whole game YET, just the highlight reels (women’s volleyball and bowling being more valued by ESPN watchers than NFL football), but from what I did see, the Ravens ran quite a bit. In fact, Rice looked downright Peterson-like against our vaunted run-D.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Oct 19, 2009 5:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rice only had

77 yards rushing off of 10 carries, with a long of 33. So other than the 33 yard run, there were only 44 yards off of 9 carries. The ravens only had 80 some odd rushing yards.

by TheEvilProfessor on Oct 19, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but...

He had 100 something receiving screens and such…the screen play behind the JA needs to be accounted for. Seems like it works for 150 yds every game.

by Vikes Fan on Oct 19, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

  • behind the JA blitz.

by Vikes Fan on Oct 19, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reply to both of you

95% of Rice’s yards came after first contact. The biggest issue on sunday in the 4th quarter was either tackling and/or players out of position. All 3 late touchdowns we either a result of 3 or more missed tackles or not being touched at all. Rice broke a lot of tackles on the screen play. Yet he was untouched on the 33 yard td run because no one from level 2(linebackers) filled their gaps, and level 3 (DB’s) maintained outside in responsibility. In Cedric’s defense, he was being held to the point that the WR could might as well had him in handcuffs.

"We Szekelys have a right to be proud, for in our veins flows the blood of many brave races who fought as the lion fights for lordship. Here, in the whirlpool of European races, the Ugric tribe bore down from Iceland the fighting spirit which Thor and Odin gave them, which their Berserkers displayed to such fell intent on the seaboards of Europe, ay, and of Asia and Africa too, till the peoples thought that the werewolves themselves had come."
-Bram Stoker

by NMVike on Oct 20, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Madieu Williams

What do you think the problem is with Madieu this year? I remember him making an impact last year, once he got past the injury, but this year he seems to be coasting.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Oct 19, 2009 5:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I am missing Sharper more with each passing week

"We Szekelys have a right to be proud, for in our veins flows the blood of many brave races who fought as the lion fights for lordship. Here, in the whirlpool of European races, the Ugric tribe bore down from Iceland the fighting spirit which Thor and Odin gave them, which their Berserkers displayed to such fell intent on the seaboards of Europe, ay, and of Asia and Africa too, till the peoples thought that the werewolves themselves had come."
-Bram Stoker

by NMVike on Oct 20, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Soft Safeties
Is Madeau Williams worth the money he is being paid?

I’d say not. And I think both our Safeties are playing really soft.

Also, it seems Pat Williams is getting pushed around a lot more than I’m used to seeing.

Those are our two biggest holes over the last 6 games I think. But if Winfield is going to be out for a while we’re in trouble. We’ll need to have our Safeties step up in a big way to help either Allen or Paymah in coverage, and Pitt isn’t a team you want to be patching together a secondary when you play them.

All that said I’m glad the game ended the way it did. The defense needed a fire lit under them, and watching this game film should do it.

Fire Childress!

by dwarg on Oct 19, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shouldn't be...

…but I haven’t heard definitively yet.

Fire Childress!

by dwarg on Oct 20, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Denny Green Flashbacks

Not to keep beating that horse, but this game reminded me WAY too much of a 1992-2001 Vikings game. Earlier offensive success followed by ultra-conservative not-to-lose playcalling, and a defense that could not protect the lead. I expected to see DeWayne Washington and Corey Fuller blowing those pass coverages in the fourth quarter,

This is a game the Vikings lose 93% of the time. Yeah, I pulled that figure out of my azz, but I am sure the completion percentage for 44-yard field goals is very close to that. if not higher in indoor stadiums.

I am glad the Vikings won, and I consider the 6-0 record legitimate…but this team can’t rely on hooked 44-yard field goals by the oppostion if they want to keep winning. It never should have come to that, but the defense was indeed awful. Some serious tinkering is needed on that side of the ball, especially if Winfield can’t go next week. Heck, Aaron Rodgers will shred this defense if his line can give him any protection at all in two weeks.

by Midnight Rambler on Oct 18, 2009 4:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OMG WTF?

If this isn’t a “Come to Odin” moment for the Vikings, I don’t know what is. Jeeminently.

If you give a man a match he will be warm for a moment. Set him alight
and he will be warm for the rest of his life.

by Mr. Underfoot on Oct 18, 2009 4:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Watching AP on NFL network

Looked pretty up and the reporter never asked about his ankle.

by Salty on Oct 18, 2009 5:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Late in the fourth on third down they should have passed. A third consecutive run is what over-aggressive D's will eat for lunch.

Settling for a FG was tough with about two minutes left. A slant route would have done it. It was working all game. I know Chilly thought he could catch them off guard with another run/draw, but that isn’t what was working and giving them the lead the entire game.

Did Childress have that much faith in his pass D that had collapsed in the 4th? The loss of Winfield hurt, but on many plays Griffen and Paymah were step for step with their man and didn’t attack the ball. Mason isn’t going to beat Griffen deep so he should have tried to stay in front of him more.

If the Vikes play all 4 quaters to win, rather than not to lose they can make it to the Super Bowl. Hopefully this lucky win doesn’t make them think their just entitled to victory.

They will have to finish much better to beat the Steelers next week. Hopefully Winfield is playing.

Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!

by VikesPma on Oct 18, 2009 5:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

On the positive front

The O-Line looked better today than in any game so far this year. Yes, we should be able to run in the red zone better. But my game film shows Sullivan doing one heck of a good job against the best line he has seen this year. Pas protection was better than I expected.
This game came down to the only weakness we have watched all year. Pass defense in the middle. Where was the linebacker covering Rice or Heap out of the backfield. With a four man rush they sure weren’t up at the line. We have to get better in a hurry in that department. Can you imagine what Drew Brees would do to that weak middle?

Keep the faith. The coverage can not get worse.

by lifelongvike on Oct 18, 2009 5:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yikes

“Can you imagine what Drew Brees would do to that weak middle?”

/shudders violently

by Midnight Rambler on Oct 18, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can Imagine

More like a nightmare game for the Vikings Defense. Saints have a very similar offense to that of our beloved Vikings. Both dont have a clear number 1 WR, Brees like Favre likes to spread the wealth, WE have Adrian Peterson. In order to beat the Saints, clock mgmt is key. Pound the rock with AD, I think Chilly forgot how to do that.

Skol Vikings!!

by LAviking on Oct 18, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Flacco

196 yards passing—-in the final quarter alone.

by uncle rico on Oct 18, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brees my butt

Joe Flacco is a stud & thensome. We beat this guy like a redheaded stepchild & he just kept coming back. It’s no wonder they were in the AFC Championship last year. Losing Winfield hurt and the Ravens took advantage of it. We kicked field goals that should have been TD’s
That being said give the Ravens credit for stopping us. If we make them TD’s it wouldn’t have been a nailbiter. The game exposed some weaknesses for both teams. There will be more like this one where either team can win the game. Hey a win is a win and I’ll bet Longwell would have made that kick for us if roles were reversed.

by iowaron on Oct 18, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Ravens are one of the premier teams in the NFL, no question about that…

And no question that that the start of the 4th quarter, we were up by 10 points and then iced it with another TD.

The Vikings kicked Raven tail-feathers, until the 4th quarter, at which point our D collapsed, and that’s putting it politely. It’s that collapse that has a lot of folks freaked out because we’re all kinda hoping that this year is The One.

Clearly we have the potential to be much, much better, but just as clearly, we’re not living up to that potential come clutch time.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Oct 19, 2009 5:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Couldnt agree more

How many of us were a little surprised at how bad we were beating them through the 3rd quarter? I will admit I was. The positive about that is when we are on, probably nobody can stop us offensively. And when the D is putting pressure and plugging the run, we can stop anybody. I found it interesting how much we have been sub-ing on Defense…One could clearly argue that we are taking the play not to lose approach, rather than the foot on the neck play to win/embarass your opponent approach (see patriots). Every one of those 4th quarter touchdowns was against a defense that had at least 2-3 key starters on the bench.
What if the staff is taking the “this is a marathon event not a sprint approach?” Let’s face it, when you are undefeated and up by multiple scores in the 4th quarter, most coaches think it might be a smart approach to take some of your studs out of harms way. I know this is breeding grounds for debate, I’m just trying to make sense of the situtation, and I refuse to tack it up to the “Chilly is an idiot wall” and would rather think objectively about it.

"We Szekelys have a right to be proud, for in our veins flows the blood of many brave races who fought as the lion fights for lordship. Here, in the whirlpool of European races, the Ugric tribe bore down from Iceland the fighting spirit which Thor and Odin gave them, which their Berserkers displayed to such fell intent on the seaboards of Europe, ay, and of Asia and Africa too, till the peoples thought that the werewolves themselves had come."
-Bram Stoker

by NMVike on Oct 20, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

30+ points win the games most of the time...

I think you are right…

I BELIEVE...

On the improbable Vikings win against the Ravens...
" OH MY HOLY BALLSACK " - IABerserker1

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Oct 20, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Time off the clock

VikesPma,

If we had thrown an incomplete pass on third down and given them another 30 seconds what would the end of the game looked like. A made 30 yard fieldgoal? Hard to say but I can’t fault Chilly for that call. By the way I think the pass would have worked also.

by lifelongvike on Oct 18, 2009 5:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the assist, guys!

Have to say though, you’ll need significant pressure on Ben to beat us. Your secondary is not very impressive.

Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever.
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by LV Steelers Fan on Oct 18, 2009 5:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Did you say that at the end of the first half?

I didn’t get to see the Steelers game but let me ask you this. Did Ben get over 3 seconds to throw the ball? He won’t next week.

by lifelongvike on Oct 18, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Browns

Steelers barely put away the Browns at home, I say you have more problems to worry about before the Vikings come into town. I did not watch the game, but Im pretty sure you guys have an idea on what needs to be fixed.

Skol Vikings!!

by LAviking on Oct 18, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vikings Defense

Anyone else think we need to make a trade for a Safety/another CB before the NFL Trade Deadline? I know thats going a bit into the deep side, but at 6-0 we cannot just coast towards the end. We need to get better. The middle of the Defense is wide open.

Skol Vikings!!

by LAviking on Oct 18, 2009 5:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, obviously something's got to be be done...

Clearly, talking to the guys on the Viking secondary hasn’t been very fruitful. Time to consider Plan B.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Oct 18, 2009 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

about that 12th man...

ask Duh Bears about that…. heh.

If you give a man a match he will be warm for a moment. Set him alight
and he will be warm for the rest of his life.

by Mr. Underfoot on Oct 19, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree we need to make adjustments now

by dsludo on Oct 18, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes we do need to trade for someone now.....

We have to shore up now so they can prepare for what is to come….Obvious that what is now cannot remain….our weakest area, much worse than STs which have had a decent year overall to date…

I would rather be IN the Arena than watching from the stands...That is my life!
* Read Teddy Roosevelt's "Man in the Arena" if you need further explanation...

by vikingfanfrom afar on Oct 19, 2009 3:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Steelers are 4 real

Away game against Big Ben if it snows we’re doomed. Passes to the middle all day…

by Scooter1062 on Oct 18, 2009 5:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Steelers game

Hmm I like our odds if it is icy and AD gets 25+ touches.

by Vikes Fan on Oct 19, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This was one bad quarter in one game.

Its still early in the season. The Vikes could bounce back and play well. Its just one game and we are still 6-0. Its fair to say we have a good shot at beating the Steelers next week.

Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!

by VikesPma on Oct 20, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not going to happen

We let Sharper go. We passed on Vontae Davis in the first round. Coaching staff obviously believes in this secondary and the cover ll defense. We’ll have to outscore them and make the pass rush even better.

by lifelongvike on Oct 18, 2009 5:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sharper had 1 INT in the Vikes (Cover 2)system last year, missed all kind of tackles and looked slow.

He is free to roam with the Saints and teams are always passing on them trying to come from behind. The Vikes would not be any better off with Sharper.

Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!

by VikesPma on Oct 18, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tyrell is no Darren Sharper

Forget the INTs, Johnson is looking horrid.

by Belarus on Oct 18, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What are you talking about? He’s looking solid. The guy ran down Ray Rice and stopped a TD. He did miss a tackle later on that led to one though, so I guess it washes out. He’s not looking horrid though by any means.

by Frost on Oct 18, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We are talking about the same Tyrell Johnson, right?
He’s looking solid.
He’s not looking horrid though by any means.

Did you see the late touchdown to Derrick Mason where nobody had him covered? I don’t think it was a coincidence that everyone was yelling at Johnson after that play. The guy might be fast, but he’s a pretty terrible safety.

by Jayrome007 on Oct 18, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about the Ray Rice 33 yard TD?

Tyrell was late to the hole, then took the wrong angle to Rice and whiffed. Even the game broadcasters called Johnson out on that one. The guy is costing us.

by Belarus on Oct 19, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tyrell Johnson

Agreed 100% This guy was talked up as a “heat seeking missile on the field” when he was drafted. The way it looks to me is either he does not know his assignment or he is lacking rocket fuel.

At least he is usually around the tackle…a Madieu Williams sighting is like bigfoot.

by Vikes Fan on Oct 19, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Johnson has played well in every other game this year.

Were you saying he was horrid when he made that INT in the endzone last week? One bad game for Johnson thats it. Your over reacting and forgetting how pathetic and slow Sharper looked in the Vikes cover 2 last year. The reason they let him go!

Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!

by VikesPma on Oct 19, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Winfield being hurt? Hello?

by kenbomc on Oct 18, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Passed on Davis?

Well…. sort of. More like Harvin unexpectedly fell in our laps, and we had a choice between the guy who should have gone in the first 5 picks, or Davis who wasn’t projected til the end of the round. I think it would have been awesome to have picked up Davis ALSO, but when a guy like Percy is available, you grab him.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Oct 19, 2009 5:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Tyrell Johnson is still young and is a great talent. He will bounce back, learn from his mistakes and be better off for it. Paymah not so sure, he should just stick to special teams. If Winfield can’t go I’d rather have Sapp in there. He is a Nickel guy but could be an every down guy.

Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!

by VikesPma on Oct 20, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok

Our passing D, especially our safeties have a lot of growing up to do. We need Winfield back. AND zone cover the middle with our LB’s. I am still amazed this game had no turnovers. Also remember that Vikings D-Line jumped offsides lik3 5 times in the 4th to assist in a scoring drive AND that play called a completion in the middle hit the ground, I cannot believe the Refs did not catch that. Big tide and momentum turns in Vikings favor.

Skol Vikings!!

by LAviking on Oct 18, 2009 5:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Something was going on with those off sides penalties, maybe not reading the silent count right?

by Salty on Oct 18, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Birk Factor

I’m going to guess that the d-line thought they had Birk’s snapping read. They played with the guy for multiple years and are extremely knowledgable of his tendencies. But being the genious that he is, Birk probably purposely changed things just a wee bit to keep them off balance. And it worked. 4 offsides on one drive? That isn’t a coincidence.

by Jayrome007 on Oct 18, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree

This is not normal….no coincidence or chance thing….

I would rather be IN the Arena than watching from the stands...That is my life!
* Read Teddy Roosevelt's "Man in the Arena" if you need further explanation...

by vikingfanfrom afar on Oct 19, 2009 4:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We are due for a loss

It would be easy to say we should be 4-2 . Didn’t feel like a win today to me. Our identity hasn’t changed in my opinion. Up by 17 should have been game over.

by Scooter1062 on Oct 18, 2009 5:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It ain't over till its over.

Hey take a win however you get it. I agree is sucks that they came back. If we convert a few of those red zone field goals into TD’s then it is over. Did you see the end of the Jets, Bills game neither team deserved to win it. Every year teams win games they should have lost and lose games they should have won. We had a bad 4th quarter and it almost cost us the game. If you look at the overall picture the Vikes were the better team in the 49ers & Ravens games. A few plays here and there hurt us and yes we could have lost both of them. The bottom line is we didn’t so don’t boo hoo over it. We are still a work in progress so enjoy the ride.

by iowaron on Oct 18, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

More a wake up call....

I think this was a REAL wake up call…when you let it slip away and come away with a W based on the opponents luckily missing what is a high percentage FG, you need to look at how in the hell you got into that position as a team…can be many things, and hopefully they look at all contributing factors….and address them before next week….

Yet we did get the W, in spite of ourselves/our play in the 4thQtr….BUt we cannot count on luck, and need to close down the other teams in that last quarter or before….i.e. come away with TD versus FG, no letting up on D, etc. This was a lesson for sure, and still the W means that we beat the Ravens….and also almost beat ourselves!

Look for better performance from the D next week…bet on it….This was a 10 pt W turned into a 2 pt squeaker, giving rise to all of us fans of memories of yore….Sheeshz, let’s not get back into THAT mode again….Do think this is a different and more talented team than those years, so will be fixed….

SKOL!

I would rather be IN the Arena than watching from the stands...That is my life!
* Read Teddy Roosevelt's "Man in the Arena" if you need further explanation...

by vikingfanfrom afar on Oct 19, 2009 4:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

More a wake up call perhaps....but know the feeling you describe...

I think this was a REAL wake up call…when you let it slip away and come away with a W based on the opponents luckily missing what is a high percentage FG, you need to look at how in the hell you got into that position as a team…can be many things, and hopefully they look at all contributing factors….and address them before next week….

Yet we did get the W, in spite of ourselves/our play in the 4thQtr….BUt we cannot count on luck, and need to close down the other teams in that last quarter or before….i.e. come away with TD versus FG, no letting up on D, etc. This was a lesson for sure, and still the W means that we beat the Ravens….and also almost beat ourselves!

Look for better performance from the D next week…bet on it….This was a 10 pt W turned into a 2 pt squeaker, giving rise to all of us fans of memories of yore….Sheeshz, let’s not get back into THAT mode again….Do think this is a different and more talented team than those years, so will be fixed….

SKOL!

I would rather be IN the Arena than watching from the stands...That is my life!
* Read Teddy Roosevelt's "Man in the Arena" if you need further explanation...

by vikingfanfrom afar on Oct 19, 2009 4:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+10

I think you’re right… I think the Vikings D has too much pride to let that happen again next week, but that doesn’t mean that the front office shouldn’t keep it’s eyes peeled for some secondary talent.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Oct 19, 2009 5:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Vikes are a great pass D in the first 3 quarters(against Green Bay too)

The Vikes play calling is too conservative late with the lead. The DBs are not attacking, sagging back. Frazer better drill attack into their skulls.

Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!

by VikesPma on Oct 18, 2009 5:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll take the 'birthday' win!

Only got to catch the fourth quarter at the sports bar and wasn’t too happy with what I saw the D doing…
We got lucky on this one and for once. I’LL TAKE LUCKY!
Luck is something we’ve been in short supply of for many seasons.

Noticed a lot of shots of #4 when the Ravens were having their way.
Couldn’t hear the comments, but imagine they were looking for an ‘emotional’ response to the team losing.

More to work on to get better… let’s hope the D learns from this game.

I BELIEVE...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Oct 18, 2009 5:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I should have been relaxing making a sandwich in the 4th

Good teams (Super Bowl) teams up by 17 with 10 minutes left…game over. The Vikings coaching staff doesn’t know how to let the team finish the game. Horrible win. Next week will be ugly. Vikings 17 Steelers mid 30’s. I’m going to copy this so I can paste it next week !st quarter.

by Scooter1062 on Oct 18, 2009 6:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We scored 27 twice and in the 30s 4 times. Are the Steelers that awesome on defense?

by Salty on Oct 18, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Relax scooter

Next week is a luxury after this win.

by Belarus on Oct 18, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

scooter you’re just a tjack lover. I saw you on the ravens site talking about how you hoped that we lost and all that crap. your opinion means nothing.

by dsludo on Oct 18, 2009 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coaching

I wouldn’t blame it on coaching…Peterson and S. Rice both needed the extra gear yesterday to execute the “step on the windpipe” playcalling.

by Vikes Fan on Oct 19, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anybody see the Pats game....

Thats the way you play…..step on their throat until its 59-0 then you can lay back. This is disturbing how the ravens got back into this game. C’mon Childress, wake up!

"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have"
Thomas Jefferson

by RileysCannibalJct on Oct 18, 2009 6:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It wasn’t Childress. Sure, in the first half they started playing lazy after going up 14-0, but come the second half they did much better. It wasn’t the offense that made this game close. Karl Paymah is just terrible. My blame lies squarely on the defense, which is Leslie Frazier, not Childress. Childress fired up the offense come the second half. Leslie was complacent with the defense.

by Frost on Oct 18, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed

There is very little to blame on the offense (and Childress) in this game. They did their job and then some. Sure, we would have liked TDs instead of FGs, but thats being way too demanding against one of the best defenses in the league.

by Jayrome007 on Oct 18, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Demanding that we should score 59 points on the Baltimore Raven defense

… is just plain silly. Puhlease. Our O scored 33, without the aid of any turnovers. No they were not perfect, but expecting them to score a TD every time they get the ball is being unreasonable.

by puddnhead on Oct 18, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's the principle

I don’t think he meant it literally. What he’s saying is we just need to learn how to finish. Like Anthony21 said, play to win instead of playing not to lose once we are winning by a considerable amount.

by Figgs on Oct 19, 2009 7:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahh....

Nobody said that we should have scored 59 against the Ravens. My point being after we were up 14-0 it seemed that we stopped being aggresive, that was my point.

"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have"
Thomas Jefferson

by RileysCannibalJct on Oct 19, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A good win against a very good team

I’m not going to sugar coat this win. It was ugly. But the truth is this is a step forward. The Ravens were desparate for a win, and the Vikes handed them a loss. Last year there is no way the Vikes win this kind of game. I like the Vikes chances to win at least one of the next two games. If they do, 7 – 1 at the break with 5 home games in Nov – Dec is looking pretty good to me.

by Belarus on Oct 18, 2009 6:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully this is a wake-up call to the coaches, this crap can't keep happening

but really, give some credit to the Ravens. They never gave up. Our defense was sitting on the lead, and they took advantage.
Pittsburgh next week, might not even try to run the ball, and they are not as good at pass protecting as Baltimore is. Our defense will be just fine. As long as Karl Paymah doesn’t play.

Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson

by thewild_viking_twins on Oct 18, 2009 7:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Tackling

I don’t think the scheme or coverage were that bad; there were a lot of missed tackles. A LOT. EJ got stiff-armed once at the line, and a few times he darted in and a side-step left him in the dust.

If our tackling was better today, the Ravens never crawl back into the game.

How’s about some Sydney Rice!!!!!!!!!!! Favre missed him in the endzone boxing out the CB on that one play.

Steelers are going to be very tough. Hopefully we can shake up Big Ben early. Until then, I’m an Falcon fan for the next 3 hours.

GO VIKES!!!!!!!!!!

by JasonAve6413 on Oct 18, 2009 7:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

on ray rice’s 1st td run, i also saw ej get stiff armed, & then madeu williams made some sort of an attempt of a tackle (not sure how to explain it) on that same run. we could have had him stopped early in that run had the tackling been better. maybe williams should take lessons from winfield. “tackle the legs, not the shirt sleeve”

by indianavikesfan on Oct 19, 2009 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reading some of these comments you'd think

the Vikings were 0-6. Look, the Vikes won a game today they probably shouldn’t have, granted. But…they…still…won.

Remember when we had an offense that wouldn’t put up 33 points in 4 games combined? Remember when we had a team that if they got down by 10 the game was pretty much over? Remember when we had a team that struggled to beat Detroit?

There’s stuff that needs to be cleaned up, but the team is 6-0. I love the way this team wins games it shouldn’t, for a change.

Enjoy it!!

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by MilCardFan on Oct 18, 2009 8:29 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I would even go so far as to say they should have won it. Yes, the very last play involved a missed FG, but the other team had its share of breaks. I’d say the Vikings outplayed the Ravens.

by Salty on Oct 18, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Until the 4th Quarter, Yes

The Vikings DID outplay the Ravens, until the end when the D collapsed. That’s what makes the whole game so exciting to me, we took down one of the premier teams in the NFL, and I think the NFL itself expected us to lose this one. Until the 4th, the Ravens, who were more than just hungry for a win, were getting their tail-feathers handed to them on a silver platter.

Who’s the better team? I think it’s the Vikings.

But someone on the staff needs to figure out what went wrong in the 4th, and work on fixing it.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Oct 19, 2009 5:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+100 Dead-on.

If you give a man a match he will be warm for a moment. Set him alight
and he will be warm for the rest of his life.

by Mr. Underfoot on Oct 19, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

good teams find ways to win

Sometimes that way is a mistake be the other team. I do not believe we will win every game. It would be nice, but if we learn from these games and get better we have a chance. GOOD TEAMS FIND WAYS TO WIN! It was ugly but how many past Vikes teams would put up 33 points against a good Ravens team?

it is better to be thought of as dumb then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Ben Franklin

by montana vikes fan on Oct 18, 2009 9:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+10

If the Baltimore defense would’ve held us after they got the go ahead TD they would’ve won the game, but they gave up that big play to Sidney and we got the go ahead FG
That’s why I don’t get it when people say we shouldn’t have won that game
Baltimore had a chance to seal the deal and they didn’t

Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson

by thewild_viking_twins on Oct 19, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What the?

A. Who in the living hell told the Defense that the game wa over in the second half and you dont need to pass cover or run block? The second half we looked almost as bad as Tampon Bay for Godsakes.

B. Chilly, dont start getting your head up your a$$. First and goal late in the 4th and all running plays? PASS THE F&$KING BALL YOU STUPID MOTHER F&%KING A^$HOLE!

"That is the craziest sonofabitch I ever saw, how many more like him do you think are up there?"

by VikesFaninNM on Oct 18, 2009 10:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

had to get Baltimore to use up their timeouts...

we get that 1st down (on the draw) and it’s game over.

I BELIEVE...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Oct 18, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Give me a break

Chilly did his job. You’re pointing the finger at the wrong person….. Get off it, man. Not even 6-0 will get you off Chillys back.

by Figgs on Oct 19, 2009 7:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not easy to pass on 3rd

Remember with 5 minutes left and we had 3rd and goal from the 5. We pass tp AP for a 2 yd loss and almost a torn knee. Just because we want it to work doesn’t mean it will.
 Just take a big win and move on.

 By the way I saw AP throw two huge blocks to save Farves bacon against the blitz. He pile drove the LB’s. Somebodys learning to do better each and every week. Bring on the Steelers.

by lifelongvike on Oct 18, 2009 10:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Look at the Patriots

That is what we need to do no letting keep going for the jugular, 59-0 and 4 mins left ok we will run out the clock now. The real problem is when you go up by 14 is the Vikes coordinators/coach need to say how can we get to 35-0 before the half is over? Can we maybe score a 6 th time before the half? give themselves crazy goals. When they execute on that level that is when the next opponent will be worried about so much that half the battle will be over as soon as we get a early lead ( they wil be mentally beat as they wait for the inevitable landslide of scoring to comense and what the believe wil come to fruition).

by Nefarien on Oct 18, 2009 11:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Childress - Affraid!

I have heard of teams playing prevent defense, but not starting in the 1st quarter. Childress has introduced a new concept, prevent offense. That is when you play so conservatively that the other team knows what you are going to do, run, run, run and out.
Example the Packers game.

I know he does not want to lose BUT, playing defensively is a losing strategy in the long run, your players are more susceptibly to injury because they are holding back. And it is unnatural not to play to score.

Hopefully Childress will learn and play the game.
Childress coach of the year, you got to be kidding.

by FootballLover on Oct 18, 2009 11:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Childress is the HEAD COACH!!!!!!!!!!

He has to oversee the whole flippin thing. JEEZ!

"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have"
Thomas Jefferson

by RileysCannibalJct on Oct 19, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A win, is a win?

They say a win is a win,..

But is it really? This fan learned that this defense plays very very soft in the 4th quarter. If they continue to do that during the playoffs, they will get sent home early.

This game, may half been their best first half to date on offense. As the passing game finally got going.

But it was the defenses worst half of football. Which nearly cost the team the game. Indeed should have cost the team the game.

This game was a win. But it left a bitter taste in my mouth, in that our defense is not playing their best football when it counts the most.

If I were Chilly, I’d say “if any one of you celebrate before the end of the game, you will be fined (1/16th of your pay), if we do not win”. Then I’d say “this game is 4 quarters in length, not 2 quarters. This game requires 40 men giving 100% for 60 minutes, not 20 men for 30 minutes”.

WE shouldn’t count on DUMB LUCK, for our wins.

by vnbushman on Oct 18, 2009 11:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

To say we counted on dumb luck for this win

Is, well, dumb. I agree, our secondary has a lot to work on and that should have never been as close as it was. But, we also put ourselves in that position where we were winning (with 33 points against a stout defense) with 2 seconds left in the game. I hardly call that dumb luck.

by Figgs on Oct 19, 2009 7:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I strongly suspect

the defense will not play as soft next week. I suspect they got a good ass chewing. I don’t think the Steelers are as good as they think they are this year. Will it be a fight to win…yes but I believe we can win as long as we play all 4 quarters.

by iowacubfan69 on Oct 19, 2009 8:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The game is 4 quarters long

Someone has to tell Chilly that. We had the ball on our first two drives and scored 14 points. Then Chilly decided the game was over and we needed to run out the clock, so we stopped passing and kept going 3 runs and out. How in the hell do you stop attacking the defense of the Ravens at that point?? Did he think that we were going to win 14-0?? If we had gone down and scored on our next 2 possessions, even only field goals, then the game WOULD have been over at 20-0. But we let them hang around until they beat the crap out of us in the 4th quarter. I wish I could enjoy this win, but the coaching has taken the joy out of it. Just let #4 take over the offense..he’s done everything else!! Lets go Vikes..

by rube6642 on Oct 19, 2009 8:35 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There will be blood...

and I’m calling for Childress’s. This is a joke, this has happened 3 times this season already!! First SF comes back to almost beat us in a game we DOMINATED, literally, they were 0-11 on 3rd down. How does a team almost win from that?

GB almost beat us, seriously, that team had no offensive line and no pressure on favre the entire game, and we almost lost in the 4Q.

This is unnacceptable, if we had lost those 3 games, I guarantee me and about 5 million other people would be outside winter park protesing with pitchforks in one hand and a noose in the other with Childress’s name on it. At what point does someone say to themselves “maybe what I’m doing in the 4th Quarter isn’t working and it’s wrong. I’ve gotten away with murder here, it’s time I make a personal coaching strategy adjustment and try being aggressive in the 4th to put a team away.” What’s more important? Your ego, Childress? Or winning a fucking superbowl with a team that is all but destined to win it?

Unfortunately I think he truly believes himself as a genius and won’t listen to anyone else. Hubris.

by cdubs on Oct 19, 2009 9:23 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

An awesome game to watch

IMO, this Baltimore Ravens team is a top 5 team in the AFC. I was anxious to see how well we competed against a legit competitor, especially after they lost 2 games that were so close to victory. (I feel bad for their next opponent, thats 3 close losses in a row) Over-all, this team had a better game then the Ravens. Tackling was great in the first half. We ended up having poor tackling in the second half, but don’t forget the Ravens have some play-makers. Their running backs are hard to bring down. I’m extremely happy with this win. I don’t understand how some can act like they didn’t deserve this win. The game is 60 minutes, which means you can’t neglect the first 45 minutes any more then the last 15.

Recently it was the special teams to gripe about after a win, then it was play-calling, now its inability to close out games. 6-0 sounds like a team thats done a good job of doing that. Also, the points differential for the vikes in the second half is 107-64. Yes the Ravens game was the only one that we were outscored. Is it worth going back and taking notice of? of course, but to say its something this team will do week in and week out is laughable.

by PurpleJesuZ on Oct 19, 2009 9:36 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What's everyone crying about?

So it was close, big deal. We finally played a good team (the other 5 have been absolute crap!) and won. The Ravens are very overrated, but will make some noise in the AFC. I guess you all would feel better if we had lost. After we humiliate the Steelers next week, you’ll see that no one is going to touch us on our march to the Superbowl.

As for Childress, he may have some flaws, but at least we’re not stuck with a piece of sh** like Mike Singletary!

by Chucks Nucks on Oct 19, 2009 10:06 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The defensive secondary collapsed in the 4th quarter

and Big Ben leads the NFL in passing yardage. It has people upset. I still think the team has taken a giant step forward this season. In recent years, we would have lost this game. Heck, even last year they wouldn’t have come back after falling behind in the 4th quarter. Now we are capable not only competing with one of the better teams in the league, but dominating them. That’s exciting. I also the defense to finish games more strongly, but 6 – 0 is a great start no matter how you look at it.

by Belarus on Oct 19, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Singletary is getting the most out of the talent he has. Which isn't much

Oh yeah Gore has been out for a bit so…

Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!

by VikesPma on Oct 19, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He makes my point.....

The Vikes played to conservative in the second quarter and 2nd half. Thats Bradshaw saying that not me. ATTN puddnhead!

"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have"
Thomas Jefferson

by RileysCannibalJct on Oct 19, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whew!

Sapp was out too right? What about the bomb in the 1st quarter that was a near connection for Baltimore? Our D backs got exposed regardless. Kind of makes me wish we had # 42 back.

We better get it fixed…fast…Tomlin is watching this film right now.

by Vikes Fan on Oct 19, 2009 11:15 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sharper did nothing in the Vikes scheme last year, missed tackles and was slow.

That is why they let him go. He had one lousy INT last year big woop.

Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!

by VikesPma on Oct 19, 2009 11:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Chris McAlister

He is the same age as Winfield and he is sitting at home. Unless he had some injury that I’m not aware of, he has to be better than Paymah. Why not sign him?

by Todd Pearson on Oct 19, 2009 12:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Only 4 teams scored more than 30 points on Sunday...

and only 3 of them came out with a win!

Patriots, Saints, Vikings, and Ravens…

6-0 is a great start!

I BELIEVE...

On the improbable Vikings win against the Ravens...
" OH MY HOLY BALLSACK " - IABerserker1

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Oct 19, 2009 1:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Luck has Little to do with it!

As a Vikings fan I understand the the draw to be pessimistic. It is the way we guard our hearts from what we feel is inevitable…coming up short.

But luck is not what is happening here. This is good football! Room for improvement? Always. But if you are not a good team, luck does not win you games. Winning games in the closing moments are stressful and exciting and usually one by those who execute best in the closing moments. The Ravens are damn good and we fell asleep in the second half on cruise control. Luck did not march us down the field to get within sure fire range of a field after it looked that the game had just been snatched from us.
And luck does pull a Brett Favre like pass out of a hat from a guy who looks like Brett Favre for our heart stopping win. Believe it or not …it was Brett Favre.

Here is what I see…Childress believes they have now have the tools to win every game and he somehow has convinced the players of this as well. It is was separates the eventual champs from the honorable mentions. Remember the Superbowl? That wasn’t luck that got that win for the Steelers. It was the belief that know matter how good the other team was they were better. And moment like the ones we have been having can either solidify that thought in our team’s head as they strive to improve or fill it with doubt that they are not as good as the their record suggests. A lesser team would definitely be 4-2 if not worse.

I hope we have finally got it into our heads that WE ARE THE VIKINGS and the weapons we have can put us over the top even when a strong attack is mounted a reputable foe. That is football at its best.

Luck won’t win playoff games, so I hope the team sees themselves as winners who can always tighten up cracks their ship (THE D) pointed out during a tough game and not as somehow stumbling back into a place on, top through no fault there own.

We are the VIKINGS!

by AroundMyWay on Oct 19, 2009 4:32 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Nice comment!

let us steel our hearts and loins and cheer our beloved Vikings into battle with the belief that they WILL WIN!

This is a VERY GOOD football team… I BELIEVE!

I BELIEVE...

On the improbable Vikings win against the Ravens...
" OH MY HOLY BALLSACK " - IABerserker1

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Oct 19, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The

The playcalling got very soft and conservative at times, and it cost as it has before. Just like in the Green Bay game, the safeties were dropped a mile and a half deep at the end of the game, and it made things really easy for Joe Flacco despite some good pressure. With over 2 minutes left, when the opposing offense had just scored twice in a lightning fast 3 minutes, the offense got to the 20 then sat down and waited to kick the field goal. Childress needed to be a little more aggressive there, knowing the Ravens could very easily get into FG range with 4 downs to work with.

And opportunities in the Red Zone were generally squandered all day. TOo many big plays ened up netting field goals instead of 8 yard TD catches and 4 yd TD runs.

So escape, move on, and learn. It’s not a terrible thing when you’re undefeated and you still clearly have things to work on. You can either improve those things and become better or stay put and allow the rest of the league to exploit it. The difference is coaching. Now we’re really going to start to see if Chilly can take the Vikings to the long awaited promised land.

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all."
~ Earl Weaver
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