So, To Review
by Christopher Gates on Oct 18, 2009 10:52 PM CDT
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PrintOnly 6-0 team in the National Football League (as of Sunday night)? Check!
2.5 game lead over Chicago? Check!
2.5 game lead over Green Bay (with a tiebreaker in hand)? Check!
Yep. . .just like every other day, it's a damn good day to be a Vikings fan.
Good night, ladies and gentlemen!
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6-0, but not perfect...
Not yet!
Loads to work on and get better with, but one hell of a start!
GO VIKES!!
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Oct 18, 2009 11:19 PM CDT reply actions
Yes, very good....
(1) WHAT WE KNOW TO NOW: Room to improve, and able to turn it on offensively, and if we let down our defense in the 4th again next week, also “offensive,” and a likely L….BUT I have confidence this wake up call to the D will sink in, and they will indeed step up their performance in the 4th against the Steelers….
(2) WHAT WE “KNOW” (OR HOPE WE DO) FOR NEXT WEEK AND BEYOND: (a) Think the O will likely play just a tad more aggressively when they have the other team on the ropes like they did in the first half against the Ravens….no more MR. Nice Guys! (b) BTW: Chilly for coach of the year? No way, have to go with NO dude at this point…
NOTE: I think the NE W was a bit ridiculous and overkill…THAT is going too far in “going for the kill” in rubbing the Titans figurative noses in the dirt….So killer instinct yes, within reason for the Vikes, but not being asses about it….How long do you think the Titans will remember this debacle/thrashing? Dangerous thing, revenge (wink wink, think Favre R4F!!!!)….
SKOL!
I would rather be IN the Arena than watching from the stands...That is my life!
* Read Teddy Roosevelt's "Man in the Arena" if you need further explanation...
by vikingfanfrom afar on Oct 19, 2009 4:38 AM CDT reply actions
Agreed that was shameful
After Brady had 4-5 TDs in the first half why the heck was he staring the 2nd half. IF he would have gotten hurt then all those analysts and sports casters would be questioning the decision to leave him in the game.
by midnightwonder on Oct 19, 2009 6:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Pretty sure they pulled him after a series or so in the second half. It’s not like he was playing all game. And it’s the NFL, where crazy shit can happen. Who knows, maybe the Titans could have come back. Honestly, people make too much of running up the score. It’s not the Patriot’s fault they scored so often. Blame the Titans for letting them. And if they want to leave Brady in there at the risk of getting hurt, so what? Let them.
It’s not the Patriot’s fault they scored so often. Blame the Titans for letting them.
There is a difference between “letting them” score and being absolutely helpless to stop it. I personally feel aweful for the Titans and their fans. There was nothing that could be done to counter what the Patriots were doing. They had just lost their top 3 CBs and were playing two rookies. The Patriots should be ashamed for keeping Brady in and passing it. If you run it and they still can’t stop you, thats one thing. But passing the ball only means you want more points.
I have to disagree
This isn’t a high school game where a powerhouse school is going up against a team that shouldn’t be there. Play the damn game until it is over. Do I think Brady even needed to come out in the second half? No. But don’t tell me that it would have been okay if the pats run it instead of threw it. Brady needed the practice to get the rust off. So he got the rust off.
So long as the pats played a clean game and merely out executed, I could care less. If there were up big and were playing dirty, then that would tell you something. But if you feel bad for the titans and their fans, how about you propose that the NFL allow teams to forfeit the game?
by TheEvilProfessor on Oct 20, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I have to disagree with your disagreement
(Let me preface this by first saying you have the right to think what you want. I’m not one of those people who insist its my way or the highway. We can both voice our opinions. I just think this makes a great topic to debate.)
You’re right. This isn’t high school football. But isn’t good sportsmanship universal? So the moral values we instill in our youth gets a pass when they become proffessionals? With that attitude no wonder so many of these players get in to legal/social trouble.
I agree that this comes
down to a matter of personal opinion. But there is also something to be said for simply doing your job to the best of your ability and not just doing enough to get the win.
The fact of the matter is that drastically changing your game plan and putting in the scrubs so early in the game could also be considered a slap in the face to the Titians and their fans.
I have been a part of a football team that just dominated an opponent. It was in Jr. High School. Our QB was a converted RB, so all we did was run left…run right…run left for the entire first half. The opposing coach came over and told our coach we couldn’t run outside of the tackles anymore. So we ran up the middle again and again and again. (still pulled away for the record).
No one likes watching an uncompetitive game, they just happen. A question for you. If you were the smartest kid in class and aced every test, if the test was on a curve, do you think it a good lesson to get a couple wrong to make all of the other kids in the class get a better grade and feel better about themselves? Would you tell your kid to do that and not try their hardest just to make someone else’s life easier? Personally, I would tell my kid to study for the test and let the chips fall where they may.
by TheEvilProfessor on Oct 21, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
That mentality most certainly does have a place in our real lives. We live in a capitalist society that thrives on such attitude. But it belongs in real world senarios with real world outcomes (like the cut-throat corporate environment), not a game. Tell me you’re not one of those guys that obliterated girls while playing touch football in the name of competitiveness.
Last question first
No, I have never obliterated a girl in touch football. Usually while playing QB, I try to get them involved early for 2 reasons.
1. When they are involved and feel like they are adding value to the team everyone has more fun.
2. They are almost always covered by the worst defender and I love taking advantage of that.
Other point. The NFL is a job and these players are Capitalists. Nonpaid football players have a different code of sportsmanship than paid football players because paid football players have a responsibility to their coaches and owners that go above and beyond a nonpaid player. For them, this is the REAL WORLD. That’s my point. So long as the team throwing the beatdown isn’t being chippy or cheap and just going about their business and executing, they are being good sportsmen.
By the way, I don’t appreciate the sarcastic respone about girls and touch football. I kept my response civil without going off topic and making it personal.
by TheEvilProfessor on Oct 22, 2009 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Ok, point made
Alright, you’ve convinced me (or at least got me to back off my stance a little). I can see your point about pro football players having to do their job. In a way, their staying in the whole game is no different than a manager at Wallmart having to fire an unproductive employee. It might not be pretty, but its part of the job. We probably shouldn’t shed any tears for that failed employee in the same way we probably shouldn’t for the helplessly outmatched football team. Agreed?
The comment about touch football was in no way an insult. It was more of an analogy. I wasn’t implying you were one of those people. I was more just facetiously connecting those people to football teams that run up the score, as in, their competitiveness goes too far and ends up hurting people. Sorry if it offended. I don’t roll like that.
ok. just wanted to make sure
agreed with the employee example. I would summarize by saying that in the NFL, poor sportsmanship has more to do with the manner in which the game is played versus the end result.
Example 1: Artis Hicks push on the Rams D lineman…bush league.
Example 2: Brady to Welker pass for 30yd TD with the score 38-0…just doing what they are paid for.
About touch football, I am currently playing in a league and some of those guys are f&*ing crazy. That and the refs are horrible. I have been laid out a couple of times by the teams that have been in the league for a couple of year (this was our teams first year) and the regs never called anything. The sad part was the refs knew I had bruised ribs to begin with.
How bush league is that?
by TheEvilProfessor on Oct 22, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
I'll tell you what that is
and some of those guys are f&*ing crazy.
Grown men with issues. They don’t understand the normal venting process an average adult is supposed to go through. Instead, they feel the need to justify years of emotional scarring (maybe even football related…) by exherting their will on the field. In the words of Garland Greene:
He’s a font of misplaced rage. Name your cliché; Mother held him too much or not enough, last picked at kickball, late night sneaky uncle, whatever. Now he’s so angry moments of levity actually cause him pain; gives him headaches. Happiness, for that gentleman, hurts.
Agree with EvilProf
Brady hadn’t been that sharp this year prior to Sunday. There was obviously no way on Earth Tennessee was coming back, true, but I can understand wanting Brady to get a little more game action, especially after giving Jeff Fisher a little time to make some adjustments at the half, hoping he’d find a way to actually challenge the Pats offense. For that reason, running him out there a series or two in the second half can actually be seen as a fairly charitable action (not that I would ever ascribe a charitable notion to Belichick) towards Tennessee, as well. I’m sure Fisher and his D-Coordinator laid into their guys pretty hard at halftime, and made some schematic adjustments and the like. But they wouldn’t get to see if those things made a difference one way or the other if Brady, Moss and Welker spent the whole second half on the bench.
I think it should be like soccer
Play for a tie, that way everybody wins!!!!!!! LOL
A bird in the hand is worth about 10.99 at KFC and makes me lick my chops
Yummy!!!!!
Personally I'm suprised Brady is still alive
If I’d been on that DLine I would have taken a 3 week suspsension w/o pay to take him out after the sixth touch down. Like beaten a dog then rolling your arm in bacon. You can’t get upset when he bites you.
I haven't heard it in years,
but one of the ‘unwritten’ rules in the NFL is to assume that however many points you scored in the first half – the opponent could score in the 2nd half.
And so the corollary to that is that you play through the 3rd quarter, no matter what the score. Supposedly John Heismann said something to this effect (“they could come back”) to his Georgia Tech team at halftime of their infamous game against Cumberland College in 1916.
Which they were leading 126-0 at the time.
by Migrant lurker on Oct 22, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
We had tons of mistakes....
And won, preserving an undefeated season. The Bears had tons of mistakes, and lost. I love that more than you probably know. It was almost as fun to watch the Bears lose than it was to watch the Vikings win. I know it is early, but we are in a great spot within our division right now and things are shaping up nicely!
Falcons had a ton of mistakes too
Everyone wants to throw the backup secondary players in the dumpster, but some of the time they did better than the starters for the Falcons and the Bears.
But yeah, that was enjoyable. There’s a lot of criticism of Cutler’s pouty face, but that one that Lovie makes when things are going badly is far worse. I’m not even sure what to call it.
Cutler is awful with those post game interviews
Granted, I’ve only seen the two this season on Sunday night, but still, show some class man.
During the game, if things are going south, Lovie looks like he’s about to vomit but he’s holding it back.
I'll have to pay attention
I haven’t noticed. I’ll take your word on it and look for it.
Culter Smutler
Culter is a fair weather QB. When they win he’s fine when they lose he’s a big baby.
I hate Da Bears so it should be fun to watch their meltdown. They had better keep winning because if they get on a losing steak Cutler will start blaming everyone but himself. The players and coaches will get sick of that crap real fast. The Broncos got rid of that cancer. Kyle Orton inherits a team that plays good solid defense a gives him a chance to succeed and wow there are 6-0 amazing.
6-0 is 6-0
is 6-0. I’ll take it no matter how we got here.
by Eric J. Thompson on Oct 19, 2009 9:50 AM CDT reply actions
Amen brother
The only thing that matters is the win/loss record. Right now the Vikings are the #1 team in the NFL.
"Skol pa fiskande"
by NobleSavage on Oct 19, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Yep.....
I would rather know we have to improve and be at 6-0 than 5-1 or 4-2 and know this….
We need to be ready to peak in, say week 16, against NYG for home field advantage….
Or a biiiiiit later, say three more games and in the SB….
If we get through NO, we can take it all…
IF……hate that word!
WHEN is MUCH more appropriate!!!!
SKOL!
I would rather be IN the Arena than watching from the stands...That is my life!
* Read Teddy Roosevelt's "Man in the Arena" if you need further explanation...
by vikingfanfrom afar on Oct 19, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Not the best yet.
6-0 works for me. I think right now the Saints look like the best team followed closely by the Colts. The good thing is right now don’t mean crap. We are learning and every game shows us a little bit more. Our 4th quarter meltdown almost lost the game. Hey I’m ok with almost losing the Superbowl too.
We are Fortunate
If it weren’t for Favre we would probably be 3-3. He has been the missing piece of the puzzle and the sky is the limit for this team. Fran Tarkenton and his sour grapes can’t dampen our enthusiasm for the great clutch play of #4. The Super Bowl looks like a reality for the first time in over 3 decades of futility. The Vikings can get the monkey off their backs with a Super Bowl victory and Viking fans can finally celebrate.
Most teams in the same boat.
Giants- Weak secondary
Pittsburg- Weak secondary
Baltimore- Weak secondary
Vikings- Weak Secondary
Saints & Denver- No sign of weakness yet.
Denver didnt impress me Monday night
But they’ve played some solid defense prior to the game. The saints do have a weakness. Stats might indicate they have a strong running game, but only because Brees has required all the attention. Brees will have bad games, but I have a feeling that running game won’t always be there to bail him out. Their improvement on defense is what scares me the most. Its going to take a good team to hold Brees and score enough on their defense.
The key to the saints
is to get pressure on brees without blitzing. he is accurate enough to pick apart a blitz, but with a four man rush getting pressure, he doesn’t have as much time to pass and they will likely run a little more which they are not as good at. It takes a lot more time of the clock by having to run again and again and again vs passing.
We would have to get a couple of picks though. Then it is just a matter of converting in the redzone. No more of this settling for 3 crap.
by TheEvilProfessor on Oct 21, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Goal is to win the super bowl
The goal is to win the super bowl. Running your starters out there into the snow and throwing end zone passes up 4 TD’s against a terrible team jeopardizes the mission. What if a starter gets hurt? What do you have to gain?
I don’t believe sportsmanship is that big of an issue. They are big boys. Can’t be worried about their feelings. Though yes if you are a sportsmanship guy then you’ll find the Patriots laugh in the face of those concepts. This isn’t the first team that they’ve run the score up on after it was out of reach.
They played the game like the goal was to win 59-0. Other teams pull starters up 40 because their goal is to stay healthy for a super bowl run and win as many games as possible. Win is in the bag then you pull starters.
Belichec just likes embarrassing other coaches and teams because it makes him feel big.
I think wearing the rust
off of Brady had something to do with it. Which does happen to fit into the getting ready to win the superbowl goal. For the record.
by TheEvilProfessor on Oct 22, 2009 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Great start for you guys...
I had my doubts about Favre (circa 2009) being able to lead the Vikes, but he’s playing well, a little too well. :) Seriously, congrats to ya.
Now (back to the rivalry)… Let’s all raise a glass for a big Steelers win this week, who’s with me? Anyone?!?
Crickets… Crickets…
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
I'll Raise My Glass...
To what could be one of the BEST games of the season…
To NO serious injuries on either side…
To what I hope is a LANDMARK game between Favre vs Ben…
To Offense…may it not be “offensive”…
To Defense…may I not have to “defend” it (for the Vikings play) …
To Special Teams….may we see a return (punt or kickoff) go…all…the…way…
and of course may we see a Vikings victory (sorry smudgers lol, HAD to throw that in)!!!!
Oh yes, can’t forget: May the internet Gods be kind to me (for a change) on Sunday night over here so I can follow what the hell is going on close to as it happens !!!!
SKOL!!!
I would rather be IN the Arena than watching from the stands...That is my life!
* Read Teddy Roosevelt's "Man in the Arena" if you need further explanation...
by vikingfanfrom afar on Oct 23, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL.
While I’ll be rooting against you (of course), that’s an extremely well done toast!
I’ll definitely tip my glass for the last part (about the internet gods being favorable upon you).
And in all seriousness, congrats on your 6-0 start.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by David Taylor on Oct 23, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
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