He really hasn’t made too many throws that TJ or Sage couldn’t make, and some of his throws have required good catches by the receivers (great adjustment by Shank on the TD, one of Sydney’s slants was way behind him but he snagged it). However, his calmness in the huddle and his ability to read the defense are an unquestionable improvement.

And believe it or not, I think the old dog learned a new trick: he’s protecting the football instead of forcing it.

GO VIKES!

nothing was said about him being on a different team. I gathered that it had more to do with his performance at the QB position with what he has.

Has he made bad decisions in key parts of the game…no.
Has he made good decisions in key parts of the game leading to a win?…Yes.
If a team stops our run game, can he make our offense go?…Yes.

I would say top 5, being somewhere in the 3-5 range.

This are my thoughts, to some degree. To whit, I don’t know that favre is still a top 5 quarterback in an absolute sense, meaning looking at what he can do head to head against other QBs (I voted top 10, if anyone cares). But he’s one of the tops for us because he fits our specific needs well. For example (since he’s fresh in our memory) maybe Joe Flacco is a higher absolute ranked QB than Favre. But I think the Vikings’ needs are better fit by the veteran savvy, defense reading ability, and confidence inpiration that Favre brings to table. What would be really bad fit for this team (sorry TJ) is a QB that is pretty talented, but when things are going wrong — say in a playoff game … — he gets that “deer in headlights” look in the huddle, and everyone else tightens up. Instead what we have right now, I bet, is people in the huddle in thos final drives in close games thinking to themselves “I have no idea how the f*** we can pull this one out, but maybe #4 will see the way, and damn it I’m gonna keep myself alive and be ready if the path to victory runs through me!” That is maybe worth more than the ability to scramble, etc. Keeping the play alive doesn’t matter if your teammates will have already mentally given up on you making anything out of it.

Like we all saw the camera catch Jared Allen’s moving mouth saying on the sidelines in the last minute agaisnt SF, “Come on, just be Brett.”

Now, looking at the team a bit to the east: you can understand why they dumped Favre for Rodgers. As that NFC championship game proved (and everything that happened in the season leading up to it, starting with Thompson’s refusal to trade a 4th round draft pick for Randy Moss), the Packers expect their QBs to almost singlehandedly carry their offense and their team. They have ever since Lombadi left (before Favre it was Majikowski, and a bit before that, Lynn Dickey). In that game against the Giants, the Packers got 26 total rushing yards, I blelieve (in weather you want to be pounding the ball!). Favre was aked to carry them. Now maybe a Drew Brees, or an Eli Manning, or more to the point, an Aaron Rodgers, can do that for them. But asking your 38 yo QB to keep carrying everyone, into the 5th quarter of a subzero game? Not a good idea.

We will never ask him to do it all like that, which is why we (and he) are better off that he is here, than almost any other team would be (including the Jets as well as Pack)

Whats that old saying: When you throw the football 3 things can happen & 2 of them are bad.
Got to run AP. I’m more in favor of passing to set up the run rather than the other way around. I think running on 1st down becomes so predictable. Favre has shown that a five yard pass has been reliable. We have got to keep defenses guessing. I know sometimes when you have a 2nd & 3 the oblivous choice is to run, keep the drive moving. Bombs away once or twice in the game or at least consider something 20-30 yards downfield. It will make those safetys think twice before sneaking up to play the run. We need to run more out of 3 & 4 reciever sets. How many times have you seen us line up in an oblivous run formation maybe 1 reciever out wide sometimes none. Mano on Mano football. 3rd and 2 and the defense sells out and sends someone in from the edge to trip them up in the backfield. Happens all the time. Why? predictable. We have the talent but all the talent in the world can be shut down if you know what their going to do.

I was perhaps the only one (there were maybe one or two others at most) who was posting between July 29 and August 14 that Chilly should do whatever the hell it takes to change Favre’s mind, that access to the express track to the superbowl (top 2 seed) hung in the balance), and I got ripped more than once for that, people telling me to stop being such a downer about our chances once Favre was not in the picture. Everyone else telling me Favre was not that much an upgrade (or no upgrade at all) for Sagvaris. So tell me … are those guys top 5 QBs too?

But even though I was so firm in my belief we needed him, and even though he’s played better than I expected so far, I find myself ironically being in the minority here that are not willing to call him a top 5 quarterback of 2009, in absolute terms.

My, how mercurial your guys’ opinions are :) I just hope this doens’t mean that, when he finally does have is inevitable bad game, you “Top %” or “the best” voters don’t flip back to calling him “washed up” again!

Since, you know, he’s ten times better than those three men combined & all ;)

Would you at least concede that Favre is an upgrade over Sagevaris?

Are you gonna be at the Dec 6th game with the Vikings and Cards? It’s my first Vikings game. And it sure would be fun to have a fellow Vikings fan to rant with.