Vikings Trip Their Way to a Loss
by Anthony21 on Oct 25, 2009 3:45 PM CDT
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In a matter of minutes, the Vikings were the probable victors, then were suddenly heading toward a shocking defeat, then were threatening to retake the lead, and then had been knocked out of Pittsburgh in a stunning manner.
Dramatic? Well, that's what Vikings fans call "Sunday."
Luck had been on the Vikings' side in previous close games, but today, it was a different story. A poorly officiated game, combined with far too many unforced errors and a tough, tough Steelers defense teamed up to hand the Vikings their first loss of the season. It was a game the Vikings could have won, but there were simply too many things working against them. A disappointment indeed, but they still hung extremely tough. Give 'em credit for that.
There were two big missed opportunities for the Vikings -- an absurd tripping penalty on Jeff Dugan that wiped away a Sidney Rice touchdown, and the pass that went through Chester Taylor's hands and sealed the deal for the Steelers. Both drives could have resulted in Viking touchdowns, and yet each resulted in seven for the Steelers.
Certainly, those two plays are the most obvious reasons for the defeat, but keep in mind some other factors. We saw glimpses of the old, undisciplined Vikings today -- 11 penalties for 78 yards. Several of those penalties were garbage calls, but the fact remains that you won't win too many games on the road with so many unforced errors.
We should also recall the final Steelers drive of the first half, in which Big Ben sliced and diced a defense that was only rushing four while leaving a wide gap between the linebackers and safeties. The Vikings could have entered the locker room with a 7-3 lead, but instead Pittsburgh led 10-7. Leslie Frazier is getting bizarrely soft in these situations.
Other than that, though, the defense basically played well enough to win -- despite the absence of Antoine Winfield. It was the offense that self-destructed through penalties, it was the offense that couldn't get the running game established, and it was the offense that turned the ball over twice down the stretch, putting 14 points on the board for the Steelers. Not even Percy Harvin's fourth quarter magnificence could make up for the mistakes.
It's also worth noting a third quarter drive by the Vikings that stalled at the one yardline and resulted in a Ryan Longwell field goal. An offsides penalty gave them a first down at the one, and yet only one of the ensuing three plays went to Adrian Peterson. Talk about a blatant misuse of a great running back.
Those were the underlying causes of the loss, but obviously, the two big turnovers in the fourth quarter are the most painful reasons the Vikings are leaving Pittsburgh with their first loss of the season. After all the penalties that had crippled the Vikes in the second half, it's not surprising that two more gaffes did them in.
It stings that a gutsy defensive effort was wasted, and it stings that numerous opportunities to win this one also went to waste. But it's important to keep perspective. Disappointing as this game is, it's 1/16 of the season.
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One loss is unimportant
How we react to it is. I think our guys are tough enough to come out fighting in Green Bay. I expect big games out of our best players next week. Especially, Allen after what he did to them last time.
by archie2227 on Oct 25, 2009 3:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Next week is going to be interesting.
Really fun, too. You know #4 still has something to prove to the Pack.. I’m excited!
by fischean on Oct 25, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I only have one comment for this game
What does Childress see (or for that matter Favre) in Tahi that makes him a fearsome 1-5 yard offensive threat?
Broncos 12 Bengals 7: The story of the 2009 Seattle Seahawks.
by SSreporters on Oct 25, 2009 3:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Uhh Tahi was getting some 8 yard gains from what I was seeing… So he wasn’t the problem here. If the man’s open, get him the ball.
by Frost on Oct 25, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Career high reception for Tahi! :)
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Oct 26, 2009 5:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OH
I knew there was a silver lining in this game!
by uncle rico on Oct 26, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It not as if those plays are designed for Tahi. He made the best out of each opportunity he got today.
by LoveHate on Oct 25, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tahi isn't supposed to be getting the ball
That wasn’t by design. Its just the other couple primary recievers weren’t open. Better to get it to Tahi for 3 than Favre take a sack, right? Although the pass to Kliensauser in the endzone on that goal line stand was reason enough to never throw to the big guys in clutch situations.
by Jayrome007 on Oct 25, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Normally Kleinsasser is pretty reliable, but in a passing situation, it should have been Shanko instead. Shanko is the better receiver, and very clutch, but Favre went with who he saw open. I’d have to review that pass to see if there were any other options, but hell, we always have better vision from the camera than the guys in the helmets.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Oct 26, 2009 5:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think not enough will be made of that awful Referee decision.
As my subject says, that absolutely horrific hometown referee call changed the entire game. One of our turnovers for a TD doesn’t even HAPPEN if that TD is counted and it changed the game badly.
I think we mostly outplayed them and I wasn’t anywhere near as impressed with their defense as some will be – the last Interception deflected bizarrely right to their guy who could’ve and should’ve been tackled right away.
We gave this game away and in that regard, a Viking’s fan can be expected to take some good from this loss. We basically outplayed them in most aspects of this game. Sad that such a great effort is wasted but hopefully we learn from this and come out swinging against hated Green Bay (a team that we really, really should beat).
by Wytefang on Oct 25, 2009 3:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Steelers D
Their pass-rush was fearsome, man. Sometimes I wondered if we had any O-linemen on the field, the way those guys came storming through the pocket! But most of the time, our line was good enough and Favre was able to get the ball out, so it wasn’t a collapse. Our guys need some more consistency there, however, and I think they’ll grow into that.
Their run-D was down-right Viking-like! Seriously, those guys did a stand-up job against AP, but like most teams, they were keying on AP as well. When the ball went to CT, we tended to do a bit better. Also, I think a lot of the problem is that our O-line isn’t opening up good interior lanes for AP to crash through. He’s slamming into our own people more often than not, and against a top D like Pittsburgh, you can’t afford to lose a step of momentum and timing.
Their passing-D was scary, Favre found himself throwing right into 3-man coverage entirely too damned many times for my tastes. Yet, the fact that he had zero interceptions doing that, is a real tribute to how good an arm the man has.
I still think someone needs to grab Polumalo by his girly-hair and yank him backwards hard enough so that his feet fly out from under him and he finds himself staring up at the sky wondering WTF just happened. Maybe it’s the mil background in me, but all that hair coming out from under the helmet is just courting trouble. When it’s long enough to be stepped on, it’s too long.
That being said, I admit that Polumalo looks like the second coming of Darren Sharper, damned dangerous in the secondary.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Oct 26, 2009 6:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
“I still think someone needs to grab Polumalo by his girly-hair and yank him backwards hard enough so that his feet fly out from under him and he finds himself staring up at the sky wondering WTF just happened. Maybe it’s the mil background in me, but all that hair coming out from under the helmet is just courting trouble. When it’s long enough to be stepped on, it’s too long.
That being said, I admit that Polumalo looks like the second coming of Darren Sharper, damned dangerous in the secondary."
I couldn’t agree more and probably for the same reasons. Dosn’t the loss of Sharper seem a little sad this year? He’s been great so far this year.
by iowacubfan69 on Oct 26, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You wanna see some hair?
Anybody notice the beastly hair coming out of the helmet of that one Bengals d-lineman? I think it was either Peko or Fanene. But, man, that dude looked like a werewolf. Really quite terrifying actually.
by Jayrome007 on Oct 26, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's customary in his culture to keep your hair long
Yet you say nothing about the mullet/somebody let a little kid have scissors look that Jared Allen has, weird. That is the worst hair in all of sports.
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Oct 26, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's customary in Jared Allen's culture to wear a mullet
All the Men of Jared Allen’s Family sport mullets, and have done so for the past 57 generations, since the founder of his lineage, Samson Allen, discovered that wearing longer hair elicited the envy of women called Delilah.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Oct 27, 2009 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not mocking in the least
Quite the contrary. I think Peko’s hair was wholely badass! In fact, I said as much in my post.
Really quite terrifying actually.
Jared’s hair is just goofy, not frightening. More like a jester or clown, which fits Allen’s insane demeanor. But those Polynesians look like raging demons when that hair starts flying. I totally respect it. Now massive dreads, on the other hand…
by Jayrome007 on Oct 27, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Positive!
Sidney Rice making great plays!
Peterson destroying and running on top of Gay! That was such a beautiful way to embarrass a cocky Steeler Defense. That was better than the Al Harris trucking.
by solafide on Oct 25, 2009 3:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I SO loved when he just CRUSHED Gay…too funny! We can bash with the best of them.
Sidenote – where was Jared Allen this game?? He was nearly invisible. :(
by Wytefang on Oct 25, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sidney Rice FTW!!11!!!1!1!1!!!
He is suddenly on pace for a Pro Bowl-worthy season (about 78 catches and 1200+ yds)!
by KC Viking on Oct 25, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s getting to the point where I expect him to catch it every time he’s targeted. Even that long “sun ball” that he obviously didn’t see until it was on his shoulder… I was surprised he didn’t catch it. He’s just been a stud this year. He might be turning into a legitimate #1 right before our eyes (and he doesn’t seem to have an ounce of prima donna to him…)
by jianfu on Oct 25, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Sun ball"
That sucked. When they showed the replay, and the slice of ‘daylight’ that Rice ran into, I was impressed that the commentators realized what happened. No blame on Rice, or Favre, for that one, I don’t think either of them would have predicted it.
But yeah, Rice is awesome, and he’s just getting better and better every game!
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Oct 26, 2009 6:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Bears game
is cheering me up somewhat
by archie2227 on Oct 25, 2009 4:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm amazed by the fact
That, apparently, all Kyle Orton and Cedric Benson needed in order to stop sucking was to get the hell out of Chicago.
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by Gonzo on Oct 25, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahaahah
just imagine how much worse Cutler will be than he used to be.
by dsludo on Oct 25, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait until Matt Schaub gets hurt in Houston. Rex Grossman will probably come in and throw 6 TDs.
by JasonW on Oct 25, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 defensive TD’s, when is the last time that happened. Someone needs to give Chester a hug, he is a huge team player!
by pacodog on Oct 25, 2009 4:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Or a kick in the butt
Someone needs to give Chester a hug, he is a huge team player!
A huge team player that just lost us a game we should have won on the road against a superior opponent. No, I don’t think I’ll be hugging Chester anytime soon.
by Jayrome007 on Oct 25, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't blame Taylor
Favre should not have gunned a short screen pass. Chester could have caught it, but Favre did not make it easy. Favre did not look sharp today.
"Skol pa fiskande"
by NobleSavage on Oct 25, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favre
Yeah the pass wasn’t perfect but Chester should have had it, wasn’t his best game but he did play good enough to win. I’m more upset with his lack of effort on the INT return. He was right there, at least dive at the legs.
by Heech on Oct 25, 2009 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw effort
Actually, as the anouncers stated, the Vikings players were giving tremendous effort to catch the guys on those two returns but the Steelers did a phenomonal job of blocking. Did anybody else see Loadholt (6’8", 350) run step for step with the returner all the way to the endzone? Holy mobility! Can he play TE?
by Jayrome007 on Oct 26, 2009 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saw it!
Load did a man’s job of it yesterday, no question. Our rook RT is going to be rock solid with a little more time under his belt.
But the receiving corps (other than Rice) left a LOT to be desired… they’re the ones who blew it for the team this game. Favre’s throws were on target, when the ball is in their hands it’s their job to catch it and there’s really no excuse for not doing that. It isn’t like they aren’t used to his speed. For that matter, they were used to T-Jack’s throws, and T-Jack has just as strong an arm as Favre, if not stronger.
No, the dropped balls by Berrian, Harvin, Taylor, and Kleinsasser, were the Vikings weak spots in this game.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Oct 26, 2009 6:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really, really wanted the Steelers to draft Loadholt
he is amazing
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Oct 26, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should have thrown it in the dirt. It wasnt going anywhere even if he caught it
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-Bram Stoker
by NMVike on Oct 26, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am with you...
Next time a teammate screws the pooch at least two guys should stand by him on the sideline. CT looked so pathetic all by himself.
by LoveHate on Oct 25, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Why reward failure? Effort or not (and Chester does give great effort), you can’t condone such play.
by Jayrome007 on Oct 25, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favre should be placed with most of the blame for the INT. He threw a short pass high and with too much heat. If Taylor would have made the catch, it would have been a great catch.
"Skol pa fiskande"
by NobleSavage on Oct 25, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
Ball was on target, CT should have had it. That wasn’t Favre’s fault. If he had thrown it nice and pillow soft, it would have been intercepted.
In fact, of Favre’s 3 INTs this year, ALL of them were caused by Viking receivers who had the ball in their hands, and failed to catch it.
Jeez, CT’s a great RB, on the ground and as a receiver, he doesn’t need to be coddled.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Oct 26, 2009 6:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a very catchable ball...
…head high and right in his hands, which is really exactly where you want it if you’re going to catch turn and run (he can keep his head up). NFL players need to catch catchable balls.
But I’m not going to get all down on CT. Everybody makes mistakes and this is not something he does routinely. It happens. It happened.
by Migrant lurker on Oct 26, 2009 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great game by your Defense, they shut us down better than anyone has this season.
Peterson looked better than his stats, containing him was a huge key for the Steelers.
The trip is debatable, I think it’s a leg whip, but even that is just a ticky tack call.
Then the make up non call on the hold on Harvin’s return. We were able to capitalize on a few big breaks we got.
Like was said above it’s one tough to swallow loss, and for our side a much needed win.
If you can beat the Bengals you’ll be my favorite NFC team.
by Phantaskippy on Oct 25, 2009 4:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think you may be the only one who thinks that the Tripping call was even close to “debatable.” And none of the announcers said anything about some imaginary hold call on Harvin’s return. The difference between these 2 calls was huge. One was a game-changer and witnessed by everyone on the field and off and the other one apparently wasn’t noticed by anyone but yourself and had no real affect on the game, in general. :(
The Steelers didn’t “contain” Peterson at all, from what I saw, either. I’m pretty sure we’ll beat the Bengals for you, if that helps any.
by Wytefang on Oct 25, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hold!?
what hold on harvin’s TD?! please… there’s holding on every special teams play of every game… don’t try to justify that despicable tripping call with some BS… the refs gave you that game…. plain and simple
favre, jackson, rosenfels, the tooth fairy... i don't care, just give me a Super Bowl!
by 'foot on Oct 25, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, I don’t know about that. The Vikes were already in position to attempt a tying FGA after AP’s “Holy Sh#t!!!” reception, and were in a manageable position to take the lead. Lots of stuff happened after that Dugan call. (Besides, as I said in another thread, the refs helped the Vikes a lot in that 49ers game…it tends to even out…)
The refs certainly made it harder on the Vikes, but I think you have to look at things like the penalties, the wonder duo of Williams and Johnson on a couple long gainers (including the long TD before halftime), general flukiness (2 long defensive returns), and an uncharacteristicly sloppy (and really poorly timed) play from Chester Taylor.
(And as always, you can play this game forever. That Mendenhall fumble in the red zone didn’t exactly seem forced, for instance…)
I think the Vikings played well enough to win today, and I was really impressed with the defense and the stopgap cornerbacks in particular. But it just didn’t happen for them. Sometimes that’s how the NFL works.
Hat tip to the Steelers. It was a weird game. You can’t say it was all that well played, but it wasn’t “ugly,” either.
by jianfu on Oct 25, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can never tell how luck will play out, i’ll give you that… but i will NEVER tip my hat to the steelers… they did not deserve to win
favre, jackson, rosenfels, the tooth fairy... i don't care, just give me a Super Bowl!
by 'foot on Oct 25, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it doesn't matter who deserves it
it matters who scores more points, stop making excuses, you have a great team….everybody loses some games, or did you think you’d go 16-0??
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Oct 25, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
didn’t think we’d go 16-0 but also didn’t think we’d lose a game to the refs…. i was sure it would be to an NFL team
favre, jackson, rosenfels, the tooth fairy... i don't care, just give me a Super Bowl!
by 'foot on Oct 25, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again, it ALWAYS works both ways. If the league did indeed go back and change standings based on reviewing calls, then while the Vikings maybe get this one, they also maybe lose their W against the 49ers. They had a key drive that led to a TD that game sustained after an incomplete 3rd-and-long due to the tamest “taunting” penalty I’ve ever seen.
by jianfu on Oct 25, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
big difference between taunting and this call…. taunting is always just something that’s up to the refs descretion and can be different from game to game… a call like this, where you’re taking points off the board!? that’s just irresponsible… i’ll agree that that taunting call was weak, but comparing it to this is almost laughable
favre, jackson, rosenfels, the tooth fairy... i don't care, just give me a Super Bowl!
by 'foot on Oct 25, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why? That 49ers call saved a Vikings TD drive, and obviously they needed every one of those 7 points on the ledger to win that game. (And if you can find the postgame thread on NinersNation, I think there were a couple other questionable calls that game.)
Look, I agree that it was a crap call. Had it been properly called, the Vikings would’ve been up by 4 with less than 4 minutes remaining. That’s pretty huge, but it’s rather speculative to assume a W would’ve been in the bag, too. Were the officials a factor here? Sure. But I almost never agree with giving them blame (that Chargers-Broncos game last year might be my lone exception). There’s too many other factors working. “Real” penalties. Bad safety play from Johnson and Williams. Ray Edwards and Kevin Williams looking at Big Ben’s fumble there at the end like it was a meteor that had just fallen from the sky. Chester Taylor treating that last decisive pass like it was Mankato in August. It’s not like the Vikings didn’t have chances even with that bad call.
by jianfu on Oct 25, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they did have a chance, and that’s to their credit, cause they didn’t give up…. but with the game on the line and points being at a premium in the game, to make a call like that in that situation is unacceptable… there are bad calls and there are bad calls… the refs need to understand that they are there to call penalties in order to protect the dignity and sportsmanship of the game… today they did the opposite… they managed to interfere with the outcome of a game, which should never happen… again, reviews need to be extended to penalties as well or else why have review at all… bad penalty calls can certainly affect the outcome of a game just as much as a bad ball spot, a botched fumble ruling, or whatever else they screw up… obviously refs are human and are prone to errors, yet we have gone far enough to try to account for that in other areas, why not penalties… the sanctity of the game has already been lost to technology, why are we trying to fool ourselves into thinking that it can’t be useful for penalties as well
and i’m sorry but i cannot agree with you about the taunting call being equal to this call today… both were bad, only one took points off the board… HUGE difference
favre, jackson, rosenfels, the tooth fairy... i don't care, just give me a Super Bowl!
by 'foot on Oct 25, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody deserved to win that game. Wins aren’t deserved, they are fought for.
by Phantaskippy on Oct 26, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
great game by the Vikings
they were as tough as I thought they’d be, though I thought Jared Allen would have some kind of impact. Weird that Hines Ward, Jared Allen and Bernard Berrian were near invisible.
No reason to hang your heads Viking fans, you have legitimate Super Bowl chances—especially with the Saints getting crushed at Miami. You will bounce back and coast to victory in the NFC North, for sure. Your offensive line is freaking good! Rice was unstoppable as well, and that was against probably the most underrated CB in football, Ike Taylor—Ike shuts down EVERYBODY and Rice torched him.
Refs always make bad calls, that’s become a huge part of sports now, sadly. I thought the tripping call was pathetic, and I didn’t see any holding on Percy’s return. There were bad calls on both sides (more on yours, obviously) but the game was ultimately decided on the field. Our defense came up with huge plays at huge moments, it happens to us all.
Like I said, no reason to hang your heads, you are probably the best team in the NFC right now, so enjoy and celebrate your team—they are great. Any way you look at it, the Vikings hung in there and had a chance to win on the road against the defending champions. They just didn’t get the bounces today. Oh well, 6-1 ain’t bad at all.
Good luck the rest of the season Vikings fans, I hope we see you in February.
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Oct 25, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Classy Post
Good luck to your squad the rest of the way.
by jianfu on Oct 25, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Class Act
You guys are easily the toughest team we’ve played so far, and while I think we could have (and maybe should have) won, the Steelers got the W and I can’t say they didn’t earn it.
We’re just a little steamed right now, the sting is fresh, lol. Give us a day or two to get some perspective.
I hope we see you guys again for the Big Dance in February!
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Oct 26, 2009 6:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spoken Too Soon
“No reason to hang your heads Viking fans, you have legitimate Super Bowl chances—especially with the Saints getting crushed at Miami.”
Well, so much for that part of this post, but otherwise, cool.
by Midnight Rambler on Oct 26, 2009 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep
I thought about that as the Saints were coming back in the 4th….shame on me. Wishful thinking, I guess.
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Oct 26, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the sportsmanship but...
I appreciate your flattery and I respect your team now even more than I did going in. But, as I quickly learned from the 49ers fans after we beat them, it’s best to stay away from posting anything on opposing team’s forums after bitter losses such as these. We aren’t in the mood for your kind words right now. Best to come back in about a week.
by Jayrome007 on Oct 25, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never touched the guy with his leg
Replay showed he cut him with his shoulder – his legs went up in the air but never hit the guy – all three anouncers said it was a bogus call
by favresonfire on Oct 25, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cheer Up Boys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By3kO1hYvrQ =D
Skol Vikings!!
by LAviking on Oct 25, 2009 4:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That looked like Bettis running over someone. Adrian Peterson should be illegal.
by Phantaskippy on Oct 25, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NFL Rules Committee...
Will need to discuss some rule changes. I’ve heard one suggestion is that AP would not be allowed to wear cleated shoes and would need to play without shoulder pads!
by LoveHate on Oct 25, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
AP Screams
Like a lion roaring, AP is pissed. Listen for it at the end of his run.
Skol Vikings!!
by LAviking on Oct 25, 2009 4:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not The End Of The World
Did anyone expect the Vikings to go 16-0? HOPED for, but not expected. They did a damn good job of simply hanging in there and if any defense can come up big against teams like the Vikings, it’s the Steelers. Favre is going to have games like this, but thankfully not face defenses like this. What I found funny are posts all over the place proclaiming the Vikings season virtually over and Favre washed up. From losing to the Steelers? On the road? Let’s see, Favre carved up the Steelers vaunted pass defense for 334 yards and completed over 66% of his passes. The Vikings porous pass defense limited the mighty Big Ben to 175 passsing yards and a 53% passing percentage. If not for that one lone touchdown, he would have been a non-factor.
Harvin strikes again! Another punt return for a TD!
The Vikings had only their first multiple turnover game (2) and against Pittsburgh.
Sidney Rice is turning into a monster at wide receiver! What does he have, 280 yards receiving in the last two games?
Luck played just as much a part of this loss as did the win over the Ravens. We take the good with the bad. The Steelers had to fight like hell and get some lucky breaks to take this one. 6-1 is still quite healthy and I think were the Vikings offered that record at the beginning of the season, they would have taken it gladly.
And after the bye, the Vikings play five of their last eight at home. And the Packers plum schedule ended with the Browns. The Packers will be facing seven teams in their last ten with .500 or better records.
The season is far, FAR from over and the Vikings have only begun to kick ass!
by Purple And Gold Forever on Oct 25, 2009 4:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
well said
no doubt that i saw more good things from the Vikes than bad in this game… they played good defense despite some terrible play calling at the end of the first half (not rushing more than 4 was mind-boggling)…. honestly, the thing that holds us back more than anything is our coaching staff…. childress still doesn’t seem to understand that Adrian Peterson is on our team, and the aforementioned lack of a single blitz at the end of the first half played almost as big of a role in this loss as the terrible tripping call… i’m starting to wonder if all our talent will be wasted because of sub-par coaching
favre, jackson, rosenfels, the tooth fairy... i don't care, just give me a Super Bowl!
by 'foot on Oct 25, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When they got pressure on Big Ben, that is, when they got him out of the pocket they were able to disrupt the passing game and nearly had 2 -3 ints. It didn’t make any sense to allow him the time.
by LoveHate on Oct 25, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not the end but...
No, I’m not really that disappointed that we lost. In the end, one really close loss to the former (and future?) SB champs is almost acceptable. But what concerns me deeply is the timing of the loss. Does anybody else realize how unbelievably pivotal next week’s game is now? Had we won today, next week wouldn’t have really mattered all that much. But now? Wow! I feel we can still win but its going to wrack my nerves all week thinking about it.
by Jayrome007 on Oct 26, 2009 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A loss to the defending champs is nothing to feel bad about
It’s how they lost is why they should feel bad
by Hjorvarthr on Oct 25, 2009 4:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The NFL needs to investigate the referees that ref'd today's game
by TonyO on Oct 25, 2009 4:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i wish they would, however it’s never the case… refs are rarely held responsible for terrible calls… and what difference would it make… it’s not like they’re going to give us the win we deserved
favre, jackson, rosenfels, the tooth fairy... i don't care, just give me a Super Bowl!
by 'foot on Oct 25, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It just makes me sick to death it really was.
Last week they were given a 1st down at home vs Cleveland when the ball was 5 inches short of the chain on the measurement…its fucking ridiculous that the ref’s have to come up with false penalty’s to save Steeler Nation
by TonyO on Oct 25, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every team's fans think the refs are against them!
The Steelers get their share of bum calls, too… every team does. As for the 1st down measurement in the Cleveland game, it was simply camera angle. Check this out – posted by a Browns fan, no less. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P2ib8tLucM&feature=related
by wide on Oct 25, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phil Cuzzi? Is that you?
Minnesota will never receive fair treatment from the refs. In any sport. I’m not sure why. Just kinda an anti-midwest bias or something.
by Jayrome007 on Oct 25, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8iSIs_NFPU
(This was supposed to be included in the above post.)
by Jayrome007 on Oct 25, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
best moment...
loved when on Harvin’s return someone just ran over a ref. That was awesome (in light of what was going on)
by DZA on Oct 25, 2009 5:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Someone?
None other than Dugan, wasn’t it?
by uncle rico on Oct 25, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that it was, and it didn’t appear to be an accident either… perhaps it was the ref who threw the flag that he trampled…. not sure and i’m not condoning it, but something to think about
favre, jackson, rosenfels, the tooth fairy... i don't care, just give me a Super Bowl!
by 'foot on Oct 25, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dugan really did line this guy up and destroy Him!!!
Wow I wonder if it was the ref that called the bogus trip – I originally saw the ref get wasted but thought it was because of traffic – but looking again no traffic and he lined the ref up and plowed him – way to funny
by favresonfire on Oct 25, 2009 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Penelty review
I think that when a penalty is called that takes a touchdown off the board it should be under automatic review by the officails who get to look at it in the booth again and make sure that it is the correct call. Having said that, that’s the way it goes. We played tough and I am not ashamed nor should the Vikes. If we are going to lose a game every 6 games I would rather have it on the road against the defending champs than at home against or against a divisional opponent. We will regroup and take care of business next week and still have a comanding lead in the division and a great record within the division and conference .
by vikemaster on Oct 25, 2009 5:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Testify!
favre, jackson, rosenfels, the tooth fairy... i don't care, just give me a Super Bowl!
by 'foot on Oct 25, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m a huge vike fan and the tripping call was bs, but so was the pass interference call on the steelers on their td pass…We have to take the positives out of this one and head into GB and get a win.
by b_stricker on Oct 25, 2009 5:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pick
It was as pick…clear as day. A defensive holding play is not called within 5 yards of the line of scrimage but a pick is.
by Vikes Fan on Oct 25, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pick my a$$
The defender ran into HIM, not the other way around.
by wide on Oct 25, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well Vike fans can’t say you weren’t warned.
What you saw of Favre there in the end of the game is “Vintage” Brett, that’s what we in Green Bay have been dealing with for the last few years he was there.
Yeah, he’ll always be our wayward son, but he’s yours for now.
by titletown96 on Oct 25, 2009 5:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Your Bright...
What we saw was a strip play that happens to every quarterback. More good defense than “Vintage” Favre. The second was a dropped pass that deflected to a defender. You’re entitled to your biases, but don’t be such a moron. You’ve been warned.
by LoveHate on Oct 25, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
???
What are you even talking about?
by herewereyouwish on Oct 25, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually I thought he'd have a lot more INTs by now.
I’m glad he’s wearing purple. He IS ours now.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
—Hasta la victoria siempre ¡Patria o Muerte! –Ernesto "Che" Guevara
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 25, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brett Favre
belongs to Brett Favre and its obvious by his actions he doesn’t truly care for team mates, but that’s cool enjoy the honeymoon
by PackaCracka on Oct 25, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
funny how fans turn their backs on a legend that basically carried their team for years after he comes back to beat them
favre, jackson, rosenfels, the tooth fairy... i don't care, just give me a Super Bowl!
by 'foot on Oct 25, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like going to check on Harvin???
When Trot the cheapshot artist Poladouche goes helmet first into Percy, who goes running down the field to check on him, yeah the guy who “doesn’t truly care for team mates” That’s jealous Packer fan showing your true colors.
by Jilogethan on Oct 25, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
Ask last year’s Jets players how much Old Yeller cares about his teammates.
I guarantee you that if it hadn’t been a WR (his bread’n’butter), Brent wouldn’t even have sniffed in his direction.
The glass is more than half-full.
by NorthStarr on Oct 25, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clark hit him
and it wasnt helmet to helmet.
by PackaCracka on Oct 26, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
with #4 in the game
I feel that anything is possible in a good way. Love his confidence. Look how the Vikes kept coming back today. Much of that is his leadership.
by uncle rico on Oct 25, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
Have you been watiting for Favre to make a mistake to come post on here? 7 games? That play was on Chester anyway.
by Vikes Fan on Oct 25, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i feel that play was more on the coaching staff than taylor or favre… no need to throw there, it was second and short, we were in FG range and in case childress forgot – we have Adrian Peterson!
no reason to take a chance by putting the ball in the air… i mean, hadn’t we already gone through enough in the game just to get to a point where we could tie it up.. the odds were stacked against us with no Winfield, then the phantom tripping call…. we had to throw it to get down there, and i wouldn’t have minded a shot at the end zone, but a screen pass on second and short in that situation? as keyshawn and the gang would say “c’mon man!”
favre, jackson, rosenfels, the tooth fairy... i don't care, just give me a Super Bowl!
by 'foot on Oct 25, 2009 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a good play call
Brett has throw alot of screen td’s within the 20 yard line – they are usually safe and effective and can be sprung for a td or the back can get out of bounds – according to Taylor he was hit by someone as the ball got there – with 1:36 on the clock you don’t want to do alot of running and most of the day AD was held in check – we were in position to win but got unlucky (for a change) at the end – I think this kind of loss will accually help in the long run – especially for next week – BAD TASTE IN THIER MOUTHS – I like everyone pissed off before playing the Pack
by favresonfire on Oct 26, 2009 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take Favre any day. He has been great most of the time. Shit happens just like that tripping call.
The Vikes will be better for this. Just a good wake up call before Green Bay. If that Rice TD counts the Vikes win for sure though.
Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!
by VikesPma on Oct 25, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3:2 TD:INT ratio before Thanksgiving -- roughly 2:5 after
I’ll take Favre any day. He has been great most of the time.
And so it goes with Favre in September, October and November.
But, then comes December and, with a little luck, January.
That has been the script for the past four seasons.
No reason to think that this year will be any different.
The glass is more than half-full.
by NorthStarr on Oct 25, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You Packer fans on Drugs.. AGAIN?!
Just step off, man… Favre’s kicking ass, and he’s on the best team that he’s ever been a part of, in his very, very long career. Deal with it.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Oct 26, 2009 6:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This Guy Must Be Kidding...
Um, titletown96, were you actually ignorant of the fact that nobody expected Favre to have a perfect season? That, yes, he would get picked for six or lose a fumble? Oh, and his first fumble of the year! Gee, and against the Steelers! You know, the defending Super Bowl champs?!? No “warning” was ever necessary and why on earth you would even say that is bewildering. Sigh, I was waiting for the first Packer fan to dish out some garbage on this blog right after the Vikings lost. Um, perhaps you should look at the first six games for some “Vintage Favre” as well. You know, like that great game against the Packers, perhaps?
And please spare us your pseudo-pity.
by Purple And Gold Forever on Oct 25, 2009 6:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You're playing right into his plan
He wants you to react and respond to him. Don’t bother. Just let his jealousy and angst fester by himself without any consulation.
by Jayrome007 on Oct 25, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
true, he’s just upset favre beat them… and will again
favre, jackson, rosenfels, the tooth fairy... i don't care, just give me a Super Bowl!
by 'foot on Oct 25, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The above comment goes for you, too, Purple And Gold Forever.
After the season, you will be looking back at that "Vintage Favre" of the first six weeks and wondering, “Wha happened?”
Win or lose next week (Yes, I’ll admit to both possibilities), the clock is ticking on Mr. I-don’t-do-off-season-activities-with-my-teammates’ durability for the season.
The glass is more than half-full.
by NorthStarr on Oct 25, 2009 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bright Side
Obviously, I wish the Vikings had won, but they didn’t. Like most rational fans, I did not for one moment believe they would go undefeated.
Yes, the turnovers were killers, and the tripping call on Dugan was pure bullflop…but it’s over. Move on.
On the bright side, the Vikings had chances to win against the defending Super Bowl champs on their home field, one of the toughest places to play in the NFL. It’s not as if the Vikings got blown out by their AFC Central opponent today (Chicago, I’m looking in your direction), or lost at home to a middling team. Long-term, I’ll be more concerned if the Vikings lose, fair or foul, to Green Bay next Sunday.
by Midnight Rambler on Oct 25, 2009 6:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
AFC North Opponent
Chicago did not get blown out by their AFC Central opponent—they got blown out by their AFC North opponent.
by Midnight Rambler on Oct 25, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Green Bay game
Long-term, I’ll be more concerned if the Vikings lose, fair or foul, to Green Bay next Sunday.
Are we dead in the water if we lose this next game? We will be tied with the Packers for the division lead and they will repossess the bragging rights. Not to mention, the national analysts will tear us apart if we do. For some reason they just can’t seem to wait to pour on the negativity regarding Favre. And don’t pretend you don’t care about how the rest of the NFL views our team. You know you do (as do I, very much).
by Jayrome007 on Oct 25, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually...
… even if you lose to the Packers, you’d still have a half game lead: 6-2 to 5-2. It’s too early in the season to be a must win for either team. It’s a big game, but either team would have plenty of time to recover from a loss.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 25, 2009 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t be a Viking’s fan if I didn’t completely lose my cool and prematurely panic over one loss. As of now, I still have faith in the Vikings to win the division, but that faith will bleed significantly if we lose to the Packers next week.
by Jayrome007 on Oct 26, 2009 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A good loss, why the worries?
We just saw a preview of the superbowl today and that next time we will dominate them. We’ve been beating up on poor teams (minus the overrated Ravens) and showed today that we can truly stand with anyone. At least we’re not the Niners! I doubt those who scoffed at my comments about the beginning of a long losing streak will come forward now. Where are all you Niner ass kissers? Do you still want Singletary as our coach, no I didn’t think so. Has anyone been watching Shaun Hill lately? They are just a pathetic team and I won’t stop throwing that in your faces. Purple rules!
by Chucks Nucks on Oct 25, 2009 7:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
I do not consider narrow victories over San Francisco and Baltimore “beating up” on them—if Baltimore and San Francisco are as “over-rated” as you say, then according to your “logic” what does it say about Minnesota needing not one but two improbable last-second plays to beat them?
The only part of this post that makes any sense at all is the part about losing to a very good Pittsburgh team, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Take your Internet smack-talk and flawed logic to a WWE or energy drink website.
by Midnight Rambler on Oct 25, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just keep watching
Let’s review this after the superbowl. I said the Ravens are overrated, not a bad team. The Niners are a bad team that is getting worse, not better; they won’t even win their weak division after their losing streak continues. By the way, we completely dominated them in every category except the final score and that was a fluke.
by Chucks Nucks on Oct 25, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Why wasn’t AP back in the game at that point? He had his breather the play previous. Screen dumps are supposed to be safe plays, but why wasn’t AP in there? Go with the hot hand…
by Opie100 on Oct 25, 2009 8:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Chester has/had been our screen specialist...
I hope everyone doesn’t keep dogging on Chester. He made a bad play on a ball that he should catch, but the screens and draws are what he does best, so we better keep letting him do what he does
Lower Deck Tickets on 50 yard line behind Vikings bench = $119.00
Parking by the Metrodome = $25.00
Souvenir Soda = $6.50
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by Skol Vikes on Oct 25, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1000
chester makes that play in his sleep. sometimes bad luck happens
by indianavikesfan on Oct 26, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
because
that little screen to Chester has been money all year. No problem with the play call… shit happens sometimes.
by Heech on Oct 25, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
shit happens sometimes.
… at the absolute worst possible time? Anti-clutch!
by Jayrome007 on Oct 26, 2009 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+10
Chester’s clutch, he just had a bad play, it happens. No one’s perfect, and CT doesn’t have any serious issues to address.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Oct 26, 2009 6:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Polomalu
Did anybody notice the play where Troy took a direct shot at AP’s knee, helmet first?
I noticed several plays were he was leading with his helmet, never thought he was such a dirty player, but I have now changed my opinion.
by Jilogethan on Oct 25, 2009 8:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It was the hit on Harvin
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009102504/2009/REG7/vikings@steelers#tab:watch
Check the hit straight to the side of the knee diving head first, 14 seconds in.
by Jilogethan on Oct 25, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering that myself
you saw how fired up he was after his last run, and you saw his ability to catch a pass in traffic deliver a blow on Gay while tucking away the ball and move down field. I am not throwing CT under the bus, here, but I think you keep AP on the field in those situations. He is so determined, you know he is going to make a play.
Joe O
Minnesota Vikings Examiner
Go Vikes!
by Joe O on Oct 25, 2009 9:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Play Calling
Anybody else care to comment on how terrbile the play calling/selection was today? i mean we have the BEST player in the NFL and we give him 18 carries? i completely agree with Joe O. I think we need to throw him the ball more instead of chester (i realize he’s a good screen back but this year he doesn’t seem the same) i think everybody saw waht AP can do on pass plays today, and not just on the play he trucked Gay. The play calling was terrible in the redzone, especially the time in the 3rd when he had the ball on the 1 and we throw the ball 2 out of 3 times? Ridiculous. Bevell needs to get his head straight. I think this was my biggest fear about getting Favre(not that there should be any regrets, mans been amazing) That there would be a shifting of the focus of our O from AP to #4. Anybody else feel this way?
by 7Twins7 on Oct 25, 2009 9:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes!
I very much agree. On the 1 yrd line we need tds against a very good defense. Pound the rock twice THEN a play action pass. Bevell n Chilly take notes!
Skol Vikings!!
by LAviking on Oct 25, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don’t they pick the worst time to feign being unpredictable?
by LoveHate on Oct 25, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting point on Bevell
you are right, they should be figuring out more ways to get AP the ball because of what he can do with it. If they take away off tackle and have him contained around end, try something else. A screen. Play action? Have we tried the wild cat with both Harvin and Peterson on the field? I believe AP has grown as both a pass catcher and even has a pass protector. I know he is not as good a blocker as Taylor, but he is getting there.
Joe O
Minnesota Vikings Examiner
Go Vikes!
by Joe O on Oct 25, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
history......
might be the reason he is not getting the ball in crucial situations. although totally unfair to him, i think the coaches are afraid of his fumbling ability he USED to have. he has done a much beter job protecting the ball this year than years past. i just don’t think that he has the coaches full confidence yet.
by indianavikesfan on Oct 26, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
The Steelers are not that good. At least it wasn’t as bad as the the Seahawks SB game. That was a total rip-off if I have ever seen one. I still do not count that as a Steelers championship. I mark that one as a Seahawks SB victory. I know my opinion counts for nothing to the rest of the world, but there you have it.
Obviously, the Vikings made mistakes. Chester Taylor should have caught that ball. There were also some bad ref calls and all that. Why do the Steelers seem to get so many calls go their way? It is like the Patriots or Cowboys some years. Certain teams appear to get special treatment from the refs. It no longer becomes a question of if the calls are bad. The question is why do these teams seem to get all the breaks?
Even with all that went against the Vikings, they outplayed the Steelers. They should have won the game. I have seen many Steelers games like this. Supposedly, that Pittsburgh defense is just so great that it wins games for them. I don’t buy it. The refs stole this game from you Vikings fans. Oh well. I’m not broken-hearted about it. My Packers won big today.
I fear next week, however. With the Vikes coming off a loss and the Packers pretty much in the same boat they’ve been in all year, I think we’ll suffer another loss. If it has to go that way, then so be it. I just hope my fantasy players score well. I will not be bitter. This is only a game after all and there are far more important things in life. It is fun to watch Brett Favre throw the ball (even for the Vikings). I will keep watching the NFL as long as Favre plays. When they finally fire Ted Thompson and get rid of the corruption running rampant in the sport, then I might take a greater interest again.
Corruption = Roger Goodell + racism + bad (criminal) behavior of players/staff
Brett Favre is one of the few things that make football tolerable. He is honest, plays the sport with a simple child-like enthusiasm and he is pure. What I mean by pure is that while he is human and has had troubles in the past, he stays clean off the field. Perhaps it comes with age and being a family man. That can certainly change one’s perspective on life. Once he retires, what is left to watch? Refs giving games away to the Steelers, Pats or whomever the NFL wants to win the SB that year? Me First players who want more money in a given year than most of us will see…EVER. Other players who get in trouble with drugs, guns, dogfighting or worse. What’s worse? I don’t wish to speculate on that. I have yet to get to racism. That is a touchy subject. I will not go into it. Some will argue my position for or against. I do not wish to debate that at this moment.
My point is that the NFL is in trouble. It is heading into an uncapped year. And now we just witnessed perhaps one of the greatest football players of all time (and the Vikings :)) lose a game because of bad refs. I’m sorry. I will stop soon because I am getting upset. This is just a game after all. The problems is, our children watch sports and look up to what they see. They imitate and emulate the players and teams, good and bad. If cheating gets you what you want, then our kids will cheat. If the NFL lets teams and players get away with bad things with only a slap on the wrist, then the message is you only need to be clever or have the right friends to get what you want. The same goes with racism. Our children see racism in sports all the time. They grow up with it. So it is okay to be racist because sports is obviously and outrageously racist. Oops, I said I would stay away from that.
Okay, I’m getting too long-winded. I’m done. Forgive me.
by starmark on Oct 25, 2009 10:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is, without a doubt, the craziest, most delusional, and most hystrionic post I've ever read on an SBN site.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 25, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Everyone is entitle to an opinion
Because I have opinions, there will always be those who oppose them. I will not say anything bad about you because you do not like what I wrote. That gets us nowhere. Perhaps I wrote my comments in haste. Yet I am not exactly writing logical arguments designed for analysis by logicians for validity. I honestly do not care about that. There is enough reason in what I have to say without logical proofs. Yet I could easily make something ridiculous stand up in a symbolized proof. Logic is funny that way. Our reason must dictate what is real and what is not. If you feel that I am delusional, then perhaps you do not see things the way I do. Perspective is important when trying to understand someone else’s statements. Admittedly, I did ramble on a bit. For that, the pieces might have been lost for the whole diatribe that might have seemed confusing. It is better, perhaps, to stick to one topic at a time. I had hoped most readers would be equipped to “get” the whole thing, from bad refs to corruption in the NFL. It seems I failed. I wrote in haste and not everyone seems to understand. As I wrote in the original post, forgive me.
I wish you well.
by starmark on Oct 26, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I did ramble on a bit. For that, the pieces might have been lost for the whole diatribe that might have seemed confusing."
Bingo.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 26, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good "comment" starmark
I did not find it too “histrionic” at all.
"Skol pa fiskande"
by NobleSavage on Oct 26, 2009 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Packers or Vikings, pick one
Starmark, the post wasn’t all that bad but you’ve left me severely confused as to your loyalties. Who are you a fan of? On one hand, you cheer “your” Packer victory but on the other hand you bemoan and try to justify the Vikings loss. Shouldn’t both excite you?
And about the Steelers not being very good, check yourself before you wreck yourself. This is the best defense I’ve witnessed all year.
by Jayrome007 on Oct 26, 2009 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Easy choice, but does it matter?
I am a Packers fan. Yet does that exclude me from being a Brett Favre fan? It is difficult not to remember all that Favre has done while in Green Bay. Besides, while I may not be a huge fan of Adrian Peterson, I do appreciate his talent. I am not blind to what the Vikings are capable of since Favre joined the team. I would not, of course, be nearly as interested in the Vikings if Favre had stayed retired or played elsewhere.
You think the Steelers defense is good? Was this the same defense that Favre busted up for over 330 yards? Poor playcalling would have helped the Vikings a bit in this game. Those two freak turnovers returned for scores where the only things that stopped the Vikings offense. I would not call the Steelers defense all that good this year. The Ravens are better. The Vikings crushed them too, offensively (until the end).
Between the Packers, Ravens and Packers I would say that the Steelers are the worst of the three overall. The Steelers have the worst offense. I am not wrecking anything by telling the truth.
I fear the Vikings next week and believe the Packers will lose. Does reality mean that I am no longer a Packers fan? You question my loyalties as if this were something important. This is only a game! Win or lose, we’ll hopefully all move on and live our lives taking care of more important things…like family and our jobs (or school) and loved ones. I think I have my loyalties in order. Do you?
by starmark on Oct 26, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Non-Sequitor
Focus, man, focus!
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Oct 26, 2009 6:31 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It really isn't...
Do you see the connections? I had hoped more people would get the bad refs-corruption in the NFL thing. I think I failed in the attempt, however. Perhaps I do need to focus more. Thanks for the reply.
by starmark on Oct 26, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ref issues are the tip of the NFL's corruption issues
And some of the hardest to prove. Especially when many of them really are just doing the best they can, it’s not their fault that they suck at it. We the Audience can see a lot more than Audiences in the past and with IR, the refs are second-guessed constantly.
You should have made it a thread by itself, and perhaps added reference to the statistic that 21% of the players in the NFL sport felony conviction records, the political corruption involving the acceptance of racially denigrating statements as long as one has the correct political view and the rejection of even a part-owner when that person’s views are disagreed with, or the business of Michael Vick and other high-profile players who’ve gotten in trouble, or the recent history of the Vikings with the ‘Love Boat’ incident and the attitude displayed by Randy Moss that led him to believe he could with impunity strike a meter maid with his car, or even Harvin’s testing positive for THC during the NFL combine, or the hypocrisy of the NFL pretending it cares about player safety while deliberately not responding to the Williamses on their enquiry regarding the use of StarCaps. Specificity helps.
The NFL and it’s political cheerleaders would have everyone believe the league is a sterling example of corporate wonderfulness. “Mmm mmm mmm, the National Football League.”.
If you’re going to do it, come big….. or not at all.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Oct 27, 2009 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hate to say it
But I’m almost relieved they lost. I had this same feeling after the TB loss in ’98. Hopefully the rest of the season plays out the same way (regular season that is).
by Heech on Oct 25, 2009 11:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what an experience
i was at the game ten rows back in the closed sided endzone. the atmosphere was amazing. i really thoght we were going to pull it out, but it just was not our day. i was maybe 100 feet from that last deflection that went into fox’s arms. i am a diehrd viking fan, but anyone gets the chance to go to hienz field i would suggest going. it is amazing
by norsemenxpress on Oct 26, 2009 2:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Dugan tripping call
Sorry folks, that was a game changer. The coarse of the game was altered after that play that took away 7. The rest of what happened is moot.
On the spectacular Rice touchdown on the side line, thank God for the red flag or the score would have been even more of a lie.
by ONE NINER on Oct 26, 2009 3:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
haha
the score was a lie, funny
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Oct 26, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vikes go down, but not without a good effort
The Vikings played to win this game all four quarters. And that is good enough for me. Mistakes? Yes but no foolishness today. The Vikings played to win. and that is all we fans can ask for. Favre and Rice are starting to jell. And this feels good down the road. Now if our OL can block and keep that block for two or three seconds longer, this offense can do some real NFL football stuff.
I really like the fact that Rice does his thing, then just puts the ball on the ground and walks away. That is very classy. I also like to see Favre running down field to show his support for the effort.
I believe I even saw Coach Childress up shift to another level, during this game. Welcome to the NFL coach.
All in all this was a great game for our Vikings, as they showed alot of heart and committment this time out. They did not simply settle for a loss, and instead kept on trying to win the game. I salute you all, for a job well done. I am proud to be a Vikings fan today.
by vnbushman on Oct 26, 2009 4:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Defensive Delay of Game
WTH is that?
I mean… really. Twice?
I understand that bad or stupid ref calls go both ways, some days you’re the champ and some days you’re the goat, but in the era of instant replays, there’s a measure of honesty imposed on the refs.
“Tripping” is bad enough, but “defensive delay of game”? I don’t even know that it’s possible, at no time does the D decide when the ball is snapped.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Oct 26, 2009 6:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the same call (def. delay of game)
went against us two years ago vs. the Patriots….we didn’t like it either
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Oct 26, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 wrongs don't make it right
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Oct 27, 2009 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL I agree
The announcers were even saying they hadn’t even heard of that call being made in teh last 15 years.
by Grime on Oct 26, 2009 8:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fox Sports
has the worst announcers in sports….oops, forgot about the Atlanta Braves announcers, my bad.
Second Worst announcers in sports
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Oct 26, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one who noticed this....
The ref who got hurt on the Percy Harvin kickoff return…was he the one who called the bogus tripping penalty on Jeff Dugan. Because guess who was the one who bumped (pushed) him to the ground on that play….Jeff Dugan. Coincidence? Intentional? I hope he was the guy that made the tripping call, karma’s a bitch.
by cdubs on Oct 26, 2009 8:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If so, he's the one who better be careful
Refs have the ability to move the ball forward or backward a couple of yards.
Players have the ability to crush vertabrae, crack ribs, and snap bones.
If it really was coming down to a war of revenge, I think the refs have more to lose.
by Jayrome007 on Oct 26, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure if anyone pointed this out...
But on the play that Mackenzie was called for holding the referee (who called it) said that there was no personal foul since the defender was pushed into the QB. So he was holding and pushing at the same time? Even the commenters caught that Bryant was pushing down on the should pad (which isn’t a holding penalty). The refs sucked ballz all game long.
by StuffIT on Oct 26, 2009 11:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is Childress coming around?
I don’t htink anyone noticed but he made a gameplan adjustment in the second half. After our first 4 drives resulting in punts, he came out pass heavy in the second half and let Favre tear up a mediocre at best Steeler’s secondary, and it pretty much worked. I don’t think I’ve seen chilly abandon the run or change schemes half way through a game like that. His thick skull and ego usually dictate a strict strategy of play-not-to-lose football…
Also, I don’t know who to blame on the soft prevent defense in final few minutes of games/halves. But someone needs to change it. We can shut a team down all day on defense, but when they only have 1:45 left on the clock they can all of a sudden march down the field? How does this keep happening?
by cdubs on Oct 26, 2009 11:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
BC may be
I’ve been pretty critical of BC, like many others, especially of his inability to make adjustments and his stubborn approach to stick to things that do not work. With Farve, that all changes, of course. I liked seeing them aggressive yesterday. Things just didn’t work out in the red zone. That fumble bounces right to a Steeler and CT doesn’t make the catch, resulting in a huge point swing. Yet, the Vikes came back. Had the game going into OT, I would have had my money on Purple. #4 was impressive moving the ball. With AD, Harvin and now Rice, this team is so formidable offensively. D looked good yesterday too, save for that first Pitt TD. What is with these late lapses?
by uncle rico on Oct 26, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That one hurt, but it wasn't all bad.
First off I’ll say I never blame the refs for blown calls during a game. Yeah the Dugan call was dubious (Dugan got revenge on Harvins return) but we had plenty of chances to make plays and left points on the field. Bad calls are a part of the game (See:Tuck Rule Decides Playoff Outcome) but good teams overcome bad refs. The Steelers Defense made some great plays, and that’s to be expected of a championship caliber team.
I don’t understand, with first and goal at the 1, with the best running back on the planet, why they are throwing. Give AllDay 3 tries or 4, he’ll punch it in. Kleinsausage shouldn’t be anything but a steamroller in the that situation. That’s playcalling at its pass-wackiest, to me.
Our defense needs work in pressure situations. Backing off in the two minute drill and going away from whats working during the normal course of the game is not working for us. Rushing 4 and giving the Steelers WR’s time to get open downfield it’s a good idea. Big Ben has morphed his game into a bigtime passer this season, and he doesn’t get flustered in the pocket. We played into his strengths.
The positives are Sidney Rice’s emergence with the Silver Fox running the show, Percy Harvin’s game changing potential, and the way Paymah redeemed himself and proved he can be a semi-reliable fill in while ‘Toine is out. Our special teams were solid, we only gave up one “explosive” play on defense, and most of the things that went against us weren’t a matter of personnel or scheme, but penalties and just good old football luck, or lack thereof.
This was a game of two tough squads. We came out the loser, but there’s no time to dwell on it. Correct the mistakes we can correct, and get ready for Favreapalooza Part Deux Times Two in Lambeau. Let’s hit the bye at 7-1 and cement our place at the top of the Norris Division.
by toke1 on Oct 26, 2009 12:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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