Okay, That's Over. . .So Now What?
by Christopher Gates on Oct 7, 2009 6:42 PM CDT
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Honestly, folks, is there a better time than right now to be a fan of Minnesota sports? We got to watch the Minnesota Twins win five consecutive must-win games (starting with Thursday's series finale in Detroit and concluding with Tuesday's play-in victory), and sandwiched in-between was the Vikings defeating their cross-border rivals in what was, quite possibly, the most hyped and most heavily promoted regular-season game in the last couple of decades. Now, at the quarter pole of the 2009 NFL season, the Beloved Purple are one of only five teams in the National Football League whose record remains unblemished (along with the Indianapolis Colts, Denver Broncos, New Orleans Saints, and New York Giants).
Yep, it's a pretty good time to be cheering for teams that call Minnesota home. So let's go into what happened on Monday night. . .oh, and if you want to re-live everything again, the NFL Network will be re-playing the Packers/Vikings game at 8:30 PM Central time. I'll be flipping back and forth between that and the new episode of South Park from 9 to 9:30. Hey. . .man's gotta get away every once in a while. (-:
Last season, had you come out before a Vikings game and said that Adrian Peterson would rush for 55 yards, average around two yards/carry, and that he'd lose a fumble that was taken back for a touchdown, the only question you would have gotten from a Vikings fan would have been along the lines of "So, did we lose by three touchdowns, or did we manage to keep it within two?" Over the last couple of years of the Brad Childress era, when Adrian Peterson has had a bad game, the Vikings have gotten beaten (with a couple of exceptions). But watching Monday night's game, you knew things were going to be different. . .and you didn't know how you knew, you just knew.
On a night when the best running back in the National Football League just couldn't get himself going, a guy that will turn 40 years old on Saturday put his new team on his back and showed his old team. . .and the rest of America's doubters. . .that he's still plenty capable of getting the job done. After he connected on a beautiful 31-yard rainbow to Bernard Berrian in the third quarter to make the score 28-14, he was 18-for-21 for 226 yards and three touchdowns. For a team. . .and, specifically, a secondary. . .that allegedly knew everything there was to know about Brett Favre, #4 spent a lot of time making the guys in green and yellow look foolish. On the touchdown pass to Berrian, Al Harris looked about as lost as he did on a certain touchdown pass in a certain playoff game a few years ago, as he thought he had deep help that simply wasn't there, and Berrian slipped untouched into the end zone.
Favre's performance was good enough to earn him the NFC's Offensive Player of the Week for Week 4, as he finished up with a stat line of 24/31, 271 yards, three touchdowns, and no interceptions. More importantly, he didn't take a single sack during the entire evening after taking nine in the first three weeks, and was rarely even pressured by Green Bay's front seven.
This was a pretty stark contrast to his counterpart on the other side, Green Bay's Aaron Rodgers. Rodgers spent his night under constant pressure from the Vikings' defensive line, and the pressure came almost exclusively from the outsides, as Jared Allen, Ray Edwards, and Brian Robison continuously made the Packer offensive tackles on both sides look silly. Allen wound up with 4.5 sacks on the evening, half a sack shy of tying the Vikings' single-game record of five, and that included a forced fumble by Rodgers on the opening drive of the game, and Allen's third safety in the last two Viking/Packer games at the Metrodome, as he took Rodgers down in the end zone after a beautiful Chris Kluwe punt in the fourth quarter. At first, it appeared as though it was another fumble by Rodgers that Allen recovered at the Green Bay 1-yard line, but the Packers challenged it, and replay confirmed that #69 had taken Rodgers down in the end zone before the ball came loose. Overall, the Vikings wound up with eight sacks on the evening, and seven of them came from defensive ends (4.5 for Allen, 1.5 for Robison, and 1 for Ray Edwards). Jimmy Kennedy was the lone interior lineman to register a sack for Minnesota on Monday night.
Not everything about Monday night's game was all sunshine and lollipops, however. On the rare occasions that Rodgers did get time to throw, he ripped the Vikings apart pretty good, finishing the game with 347 yards passing and two touchdown passes of his own (along with his first interception of the season, a pick by Antoine Winfield that led to another Minnesota touchdown). The Vikings also got mauled by a fast, strong tight end again, just as they did by Vernon Davis against the 49ers the week before, as Jermichael Finley caught six passes for 128 yards, including the 62-yard touchdown pass that answered the Vikings opening score.
I'm not the world's biggest Aaron Rodgers fan. I don't think he's the next Johnny Unitas or anything crazy like that. But after the absolute beating the Vikings subjected him to on Monday night and for him to answer the way he did, it's really, really hard to question his toughness at this point. That guy put his big boy pants on this Monday night, and it was darn near enough for him to lead his team to a victory even after getting sacked eight times and spending his evening running for his life almost every time he dropped back to pass.
Speaking of quarterbacks, much was made of the quarterback makeover that the NFC North underwent this season. Rodgers is the only quarterback starting for an NFC North team this year that started for the same team last year, with the Lions, Bears, and Vikings all bringing in new starters. At the quarter point of the season, how do those quarterbacks compare? Well. . .see for yourself:
| Player | Team | Comp | Att | Comp % | Yards | TD | INT | Sacked | Rating |
| Jay Cutler | CHI | 83 | 129 | 64.3 | 901 | 8 | 5 | 8 | 89.3 |
| Brett Favre | MIN | 85 | 125 | 68.0 | 837 | 8 | 1 | 9 | 104.6 |
| Aaron Rodgers | GB | 77 | 127 | 60.6 | 1,098 | 6 | 1 | 20 | 101.1 |
| Matthew Stafford | DET | 79 | 139 | 56.8 | 894 | 3 | 6 | 10 | 65.5 |
Yep. . .the old guy seems to be living up to the hype after all, I'd say. Will he be able to maintain his current pace? Well, I don't think he's going to end the season with a 32/4 TD-to-INT ratio or anything, but I think he's still going to have a significantly larger number in the TD column than he'll have in the INT column. In any event, it sure as heck has been fun to watch so far, hasn't it?
So, what do we have to look forward to in the second quarter of the season? Well, only one of Minnesota's next four games will be in the comfy confines of the Metrodome, for starters. They'll start this stanza with a trip to St. Louis. . .a potential trap game if there ever was one. . .for a date with the Rams before hosting the Baltimore Ravens in Week 6 in what should be an extremely physical, hard-hitting contest. No rest for the Vikings after that, however, as they travel to the House that Ketchup Built in Week 7 to take on the Pittsburgh Steelers, and then make the annual pilgrimage to Lambeau Field to take on these same Packers before heading into their bye in Week 9.
As far as the rest of the NFC North, since we should be tracking them, too, both Chicago and Green Bay have Week 5 off. The Packers will host the Lions and travel to Cleveland before hosting the rematch with the Vikings. Chicago has a Sunday night date with the Atlanta Falcons in Week 6, followed by a trip to Cincinnati to take on the surprising Bengals and a home game against Cleveland. Detroit has the defending world champions at home this Sunday, followed by a trip to Green Bay, a bye week of their own, and a home contest against St. Louis.
It's been a great start to the 2009 season, ladies and gentlemen. . .and I'm happy as heck as you've spent it here with DN. Don't go anywhere the rest of the year, since we'll still be here providing the best Vikings coverage you'll find anywhere. Have a good rest of your evening, ladies and gentlemen. . .go Twins, and SKOL Vikings!!!!
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What's your honest prediction for the nxt 4 games?
I’m hoping the Vikes pull off a minimum 2-2…
Yet if Peterson finds the light, Favre stays steady and upright combined with this Vikings pass rush? The Vikes could win the nxt 4 and be 8-0
“What’s your honest prediction for the nxt 4 games? I’m hoping the Vikes pull off a minimum 2-2…
Yet if Peterson finds the light, Favre stays steady and upright combined with this Vikings pass rush? The Vikes could win the nxt 4 and be 8-0”
With the caveat about “any team being able to beat any team on any given Sunday” in the NFL, I fully expect the Vikings to beat St. Louis. I do not expect them to beat both Baltimore and Pittsburgh, nor will I guarantee a win in Lambeau.
So, 8-0 is possible, but not likely. The Steelers and Ravens are both beatable, but I don’t see the Vikings winning at Pittsburgh. So, count that one as a loss. I wouldn’t bet the ranch on beating Baltimore, but I think/hope the Vikings pull it off at home.
I actually feel fairly confident about the Packer game. That team has problems (offensive line, pass defense), plus Favre will be pumped up for it. I am going out on a small limb to say the Vikings make it a sweep of the Packers this year.
So, 7-1 at midway point in the season, with the first loss of the season coming to the Steelers.
by Midnight Rambler on Oct 7, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
One More Thing
Oh, and I would not be totally shocked if the Vikings are 5-3 after the next four games. I am not expecting it, but it is possible. (The Rams are as close to a lock for a win as one is likely to see, on the road or not.)
by Midnight Rambler on Oct 7, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, the Steelers O-Line is pretty bad. Granted it isn’t as terrible as the Packers, but I can see us still generating enough of a passrush to disrupt Roethlisberger a bit, and that run-game should be non-existant against us. It’s gonna be a defensive game more than likely.
Don't underestimate Mendenhall
He’s alot better than Coffee.
Ravens are a great test. Beat them, it bodes well for the Steelers and Packers games. The team will know that too. There is ALOT to be said for momentum. Confidence brings peace of mind and focus during every play. Focus brings execution and exceptional performance.
I don’t see overconfidence becoming a problem until after the bye. For now, we must wait for Favre to teach Bevell and Chilly how to call a game….
TiggerSr
I’m not underestimating Mendenhall, who I can’t really remember having a big game until last sunday against the Chargers D missing their NT, so much as expecting a good game from the Williams. I’m sure he is better than Coffee, but that doesn’t mean he’s going to be more effective if they try to run it up the gut.
+100
Thats the key to our whole season. Favre definitely needs to teach Chilly and Bevell how to call plays and adjust during games.
by midnightwonder on Oct 8, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Steelers' bad o-line
They might not excel in pass protection, but Roethlisberger does very well despite being under constant pressure.
by peterplaysbass on Oct 8, 2009 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions
My thinking too: 2-2
I’m going to tempt the football gods and put the next one down as a win.
After that … I don’t want to get too cocky and say we beat two of those three teams. I can hope for it, but I don’t want to count on it. So I’m going to go 1-2 on that as, as solafide says, a “minimum” that we can hopefully count on. Then if we win one or both of the other two as well, it’s all gravy.
I think they go 3-1 over the next 4 games
and end up 7-1
I voted for Favre for the MVP. He is the difference maker, biggest change this year.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Oct 7, 2009 9:31 PM CDT reply actions
IF?
basing this on reality… Favre has been the difference maker this year at this point in the season.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Oct 8, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
AP's rushing attack was the difference maker the first two
And Brett the last 2. Brett probably wouldn’t have been as effective if GB didn’t go all out to stop AP. The most valuable player on our team through the first 4 games is still AP.
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Before the weekend games I thought
2-2 was reasonable. But I saw a fair amount of both the Ravens and Steelers, and they are winnable games. Pittsburgh will be tough on the road, and Baltimore will be a tough draw, but they can be taken down.
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
we had
all the those guys last year save favre
he is the difference, he is the mvp
As much as I hate to acknowledge that fact....
you are absolutely right. I keep trying to tell myself that if Favre goes down, we will be a-ok. Hell, last year we went 10-6 without him and a “tougher” schedule so I would say that we would still win the division. But where do we go come playoff time? If he makes it the distance, his experience and skill would be invaluable. We have to think big picture here – he gives us the best chance to make noise in the playoffs. He just does things that other guys can’t do.
i can really see the team still having a perfect record....
everything, and i mean everything i have seen from the steelers up until this point has me convinced that they are more than beatable. watching the sunday night game, their defensive line got very little pressure on phillip rivers, against an offensive line that, in my opinion, is no better than the vikings. their polamalu-less secondary is really not all that impressive. their run game, aside from sunday night has been non-existent to this point with sunday being against a run d that gave up the infamous ‘296’. getting to ben roethlisberger seems to make him make some bad throws, which i’m sure our corners will know what to do with. i just feel like they are very 1 dimensional, and quite capable of being beaten at home.
the baltimore game is a slight cause for concern in my opinion because of ray lewis. yeah, he’s older, and yeah he may have lost a step or two, but i still wouldn’t want to get stabbed by him in a bar……. i think our defense should be disruptive enough to joe flacco to be able to force him into some bad decisions/ill-advised throws, and our run d should be able to handle that rice guy fairly well. i think favre will be too jazzed up to get beat at lambeau, and i think the rams will be a good welcome back for AP smashing some guys in the mouth. not saying that we will win all of em, but we match up very well against all of the teams, and should be in most of them late, if not win em.
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Their polamalu-less secondary will have him back come our game. But I think our defense will stack up well against their offense. It’s gonna be a game that comes down to some defensive plays. . .
Of course, in past seasons when those type of games are expected it’s usually an offensive-juggernaught game. Such as last year’s Ford Field game.
AP's due
He’s on pace for 20 TDs and is second in the league for rushing, but yeah, the last couple games have been slow.
by peterplaysbass on Oct 8, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
82-0!!
YOU WILL SEE!! ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE NOW!!
Ahem.
Heh. I’m thinking 7-1, even though I believe all 3 games are winnable, odds are that we’ll drop one of them. By the time we hit the bye week (which couldn’t be better timed for us!), everyone’s going to be ready for a little break and come out fresh for the second half. I love the way the team is building it’s head of steam up, getting better and better each week instead of playing at a plateau. Watching the chemistry between the receivers and Favre improve has been a rare treat.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
LOL
I just read the first line and thought for sure it was a R4F post.
BRETT FAVRE’S FECES TASTES LIKE CANDY CANES AND HIS SWEAT IS MOUNTAIN DEW! UNDEFEATED SEASONS UNTIL FAVRE ASCENDS TO HEAVEN AND ON THE 3RD DAY RETURNS TO PUNISH TED THOMPSON!
Fire Childress!
Could be......
8-0 or 5-3…Depends on the breaks, turnovers…How the defense plays…we have given up more long run plays than in past yrs…Also Griffin is not doing so well in coverage..Back to breaks..We should have killed SF and were lucky that
Favre pulled it out for us. At the end of it all, Vikings should make a run to Superbowl…Opponets Defense can not just worry abt the run against AP as in past, they now have to plan against Favre..Which was never the case when we had TJack..Defense no longer has to carry the game….Goooooooo Vikings !!!!!!
Defenses have to pick...
Do they want to get killed by stabbing or blunt force trauma…
Favre is running the “death of a thousand cuts” offense, with the short, high percentage plays that just nibble away, and Peterson will just beat you over the head.
8-0 is very possible
Granted the baltimore game is the toughest – but its home- I’m not scared of their run or pass offense and I think Brett proved if you stack the line against AD he can slice and dice you – Its nice to see the chemistry starting with the recievers and Brett – hope they continue to put in overtime with the jugs machine – Bretts arm is getting stronger and stronger week by week – Much needed SWAGGER is possible to get past the Baltimore game with a W – Got to say its great having everyone having fun and excitement over the way Brett PLAYS TO WIN THE GAME – it wasn’t so long ago when I first joined your clubhouse that these postings had mostly to do with how not to throw up when the Media was talking about Favre joining the team – can you now say ALL ABOARD – NOW THIS TRAIN IS REALLY GOING PLACES – The Three Stooges train back in green bay just took a dump!!!! Way to STICK IT TO TED Brett – REVENGE IS SO SO SWEET – I enjoyed my first trip to Minn to witness history in the making and met lots of new friends – will be back for some playoff games – SKOL
As long as the Vikings o-line...
is allowed, by the refs, to keep hanging on to the opposing teams defense, then they will go 8-0.
boo hoo.
As long as receivers keep dropping balls and the o-line works on their ballet technique, the Packers will continue to hover around .500
by peterplaysbass on Oct 8, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
someone sounds bitter
that they lost another big one since he left rodgers aint done jack but put up numbers after your behind kind of like he was on his most of the night and were gonna kick yours in lambeau.holiding that’s weak
A fan of a team
That employs Charles Woodson and Al Harris is complaining about teams getting away with holding?
Really?
Oh, and if it matters, the Packers were holding Kevin Williams on damn near every snap on Monday night. . .and why wouldn’t they? They haven’t got anybody that can block him cleanly.
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by Christopher Gates on Oct 8, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok people stop and think for a moment...
AD has to be the MVP at this point, yes we may have one less win but Peterson is still what teams are scared over. Farve is an accurate QB and won the 49er game with some help from Harvin but the team seriously has 18 eyes on #28 EVERY PLAY. It all starts with me whom has scales.
Agreed
My vote goes to AP, too. It may not seem like he would be the MVP based on performance, maybe…. but he is definitely the main focus of defenses, thus creating many opportunities for the rest of the offense. Favre has been a huge, positive impact, but I doubt he’d be as successful on another team that did not have AP on it. I think it all goes back to AP.
I’d have to respectfully disagree. If we took this vote back in week 2, then yes. Peterson would be MVP. But it was Favre who had spectacular games the last two games against tougher opponents, while Peterson has been shutdown for the most part. Yeah, part of it is because they’re focusing on stopping Peterson, but part of it is also that Favre’s a good QB who makes the routine throws routinely. He’s easily the biggest reason we are 4-0 and not 3-1 or 2-2. Which would have us in a tie for first or second for the Division, rather than the clear leader.
I'll be happy with 6 and 2,
very happy with 7 and 1 and not in despair at 5 and 3. The passing game is still a work in progress (maybe more on that in a separate post), and we should pull away in the 2nd half of the season.
But yeah, 8 and 0 is not beyond possibility. I just don’t want to put my expectations at that level yet.
As to MVP, at least on the offensive side I think it’s a tossup between AD and Favre at this point. AD is still contributing a lot to the passing game, because he dictates the defenses that we face even when he does not gain a lot of yards.
Exactly!
“I’ll be happy with 6 and 2, very happy with 7 and 1 and not in despair at 5 and 3. "
Spot on. There are some very winnable games after the bye, so 5-3 would be fine. I’m expecting 6-2.
by peterplaysbass on Oct 8, 2009 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm going with 8-0
It just looks better
It sounds better
and it makes me feel better
take a kid fishing, it's good for the soul. not only yours, but the child's as well !
Favre is the MVP
No way we beat San Fran if T-Jack is in there playing QB. Even against Green Bay, I don’t see Jackson making the throws that Favre did and especially not having a 77% completion percentage. As good as AD is, Favre gets the MVP nod so far.
As for the upcoming games, 4-0 is probably not realistic. Sure Baltimore and Pittsburgh have looked beatable at times, but so have our beloved Vikes. Assigning probabilities of Viking wins over the next 4 games I’d say Rams-90%, Ravens-60%, Steelers-50% (though I feel like I’m being generous here, since no one wins at Heinz Field), GB-50%. Multiplying these together yields a 13.5% chance we will win all 4 games. So there’s definitely a chance, but it would take a hell of a run.
Record and MVP
I expect the Vikes to be at least 6-2 at the bye and will hope for better.
I voted Allen for MVP. He’s been the most consistent star through 4 weeks. AP, Favre, and Winfield all could be considered.
Loadholt and Harvin look great. If it weren’t for a couple good rookie QB’s Harvin would be in the lead for offensive ROY; he’s definitely the best rookie WR.
I voted for Harvin
In the past two games, Peterson’s been shut down.
For the first two games, Jared and Favre had mediocre performances.
Meanwhile, Percy’s had great catches and plays in the first four games.
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Corollary: When people are visiting your house and behaving themselves, them being a fan of a different team is NOT a reason for you to piss in their beer.
Most Value --- I'll stop there
AP on any other team and he changes everything. Value
Farve has been a QB and yes we would have a lost if not for him – but most value, IMO is straight AP.
Teams saw him run ridiculous and planned for him – we still lose the 49er game if Harvin didn’t bring it to the house untouched. Brett was not all world that day and we lose without the last second payoff. AP will have a better season once the blocking picks up and he learns….I am all for Farve , Harvin , Allen <is going to make me spend $70 in a recession> and Winfield <man, if you weren’t with your kids when I saw you I probably would have picked you up and hugged you> but Purple Jesus….championship
Recess
You picking teams for a game at recess. You have 1st pick, the bully who you hate more than anyone has second pick. You both get to choose your team from all the guys on the Vikes’ roster. You get 1st pick. The prick you hate gets the second pick.
Who do you pick? Favre, Peterson, Allen, Harvin, Winfield?
To me it’s a no-brainer. I go with Farvre.
TiggerSr
seriously?
I thought you were making a point for Peterson, and a good one at that.
by peterplaysbass on Oct 8, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
To each his own
There is no way to prove you are right and I am wrong, or vice versa. You may pick Jessica Simpson, and I might prefer Genevieve Bates. They are both incredibly hot.
To me though, my hypo states the MVP question most clearly - in a way that anyone whover played games at recess can relate to and understand.
TiggerSr
To each his own indeed
I don’t disagree, but where you were going seemed to imply a position that’s not dependent on others. I’d like to see kids at recess try to catch Favre’s passes.
Both players have been very important to the team. AD is ridiculous, we all know. Favre’s a huge upgrade at a critical position, it’s true. I’m thrilled the Vikings have both.
I hope they make it a magical year, because the Packers and Bears will be very competive for years to come.
by peterplaysbass on Oct 8, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
You might be right
But AP clerly depends on others too — as the Packers game and the Niners game show
TiggerSr
lol well played, and kudos to you,sir!!!
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by IABerserker1 on Oct 8, 2009 8:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
seriously, south park?
"We Szekelys have a right to be proud, for in our veins flows the blood of many brave races who fought as the lion fights for lordship. Here, in the whirlpool of European races, the Ugric tribe bore down from Iceland the fighting spirit which Thor and Odin gave them, which their Berserkers displayed to such fell intent on the seaboards of Europe, ay, and of Asia and Africa too, till the peoples thought that the werewolves themselves had come."
-Bram Stoker
yup
If you don’t like it, you probably don’t understand it.
by Jepp The Viking on Oct 8, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
What's to understand?
Unless it’s the kind of humor to which only 30 something year old’s who still live in their mom’s basement can relate LOL
"We Szekelys have a right to be proud, for in our veins flows the blood of many brave races who fought as the lion fights for lordship. Here, in the whirlpool of European races, the Ugric tribe bore down from Iceland the fighting spirit which Thor and Odin gave them, which their Berserkers displayed to such fell intent on the seaboards of Europe, ay, and of Asia and Africa too, till the peoples thought that the werewolves themselves had come."
-Bram Stoker
It was appointment viewing for this co-writer too
Last night’s season debut didn’t disappoint either. If you don’t get it, then you’re just being ignorant. ;)
by Eric J. Thompson on Oct 8, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Lets look at this game by game
Cleveland: Obvious difference maker here goes to AP.
Detroit: Toss up. Offense struggled early. Defense struggled all game to stop the run.
San Fran: Obvious difference maker Favre.
GB: Solid effort from Jared Allen, Winfield and Favre. AP shut out. I comes down to Allen and Favre in my opinion. What played a bigger role in the victory, Allen’s 4.5 sacks, or Favre’s 3 TD’s? Favre benefitted from the OLine playing better than ever. Allen benefitted from a sucky GB Oline. Our offense became one dimensional after AP was shut down. GB’s O became 1-D because they were down 16 in the 4th q. Favre was at a disadvantage because of no help from running game, Allen had an advantage because GB had to pass. Difference maker vote goes to Favre.
Favre 2 votes, AP 1 vote, split vote for Detroit game.
After 4 games my MVP is….. Sage Rosenfels LOL!
"We Szekelys have a right to be proud, for in our veins flows the blood of many brave races who fought as the lion fights for lordship. Here, in the whirlpool of European races, the Ugric tribe bore down from Iceland the fighting spirit which Thor and Odin gave them, which their Berserkers displayed to such fell intent on the seaboards of Europe, ay, and of Asia and Africa too, till the peoples thought that the werewolves themselves had come."
-Bram Stoker
Replace Farve...
with a middle of the road QB and the coverages and everything really wouldn’t change. Replace AP with Taylor a GOOD #1 rb and the coverage Farve sees is different all game and not just a series or two. My case is that not game by game who made that play but game by game who gives the most nightmares…cough Jim Browned the Browns! Besides the rookie and guard to tackle that cried in his sleep before – during – and after the GB game, no one strikes the fear that AD does. He made Rice look like Hines Ward on that play.
let's hope for 7-1 8-0 would be nice but difficult
for us to go 7-1 is not that far of a reach i don’t think ravens d down offense seems better go figure,steelers with ap we are meant to play against teams like these.8-0 would be a tough task not unreachable just everything would have to go our way then you know you have something special.now to mvp its ap because of him being who he is he had had to very subpar games and is still 2 in rushing by like 30 plus yards and they have to put 8 or 9 in the box which means 1 on 1 on the outsides.so it makes brett look better with a lead after that are d takes over
Much to my surprise,
Mike Sando of ESPN has Favre ranked 2nd this week on his ‘MVP watch’, with AD fourth. Also on their “rank ’em” page they have sixteen candidates listed. Favre, Peterson and Jared Allen are among them. The Vikings are the only team with 3 candidates listed.
It is fairly freaking hilarious to watch various commentators back-pedaling like crazy in regard to Favre in particular and the Vikings in general.
Wow! Amazing poll numbers!
I’m one of the biggest Favre lovers here I think. At least I was one of the very, very few (the only one) posting on July 29th & througg the beginning of August: I don’t care what Chili has to do, how much he has to grovel or eat crow. Do what it takes to convince Favre to come here.
Having said that, I voted for Jared Allen as MVP, not Favre. Sort of as a surrogate for the entier defense (minus perhaps the secondary, which has issues). The D line is what kept the otherwise potent GB offense from clicking. the D is who got the ball back in a 3-and-out frm SF so Lewis & favre had time still on the clock to make their miracle connection. The D is what kept us in the game in the first halves of the first two, when our O wasn’t firing on all cylinders.
The D doesn’t often have the big plays (except maybe INTs and sacks) that you cqn’t point to and say “that was it!” like the Lewis play, but if you look at the stats, and see all the opponent posessions that end without scoring … then it shows up.
HERE WE GO AGAIN
In a release from the Associated Press just a short time ago…They say a House subcommittee will conduct a hearing next month into two professional football players whose suspension was blocked by a federal appeals court. There aren’t enough problems in the country today, now we have a House subcommittee with not enough to do trying to mess with the court system. WHAT NEXT
Makes sense
Since they have nothing better to do like two wars, faltering economy, zero faith in governance, illegal immigration, health care reform, education system, crumbling infrastructure…………….
by Jepp The Viking on Oct 8, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I see...
an invite to Goodell and the Williams’ to share a beer with the TOTUS coming…
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Oct 8, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
NO Vote
How can you choose between those four? What an incredible dilema for Viking fans…we are so loaded with talent it is crazy.
Packer Blog
Why does a headline about Ziggi and the William Wall take us to a Packer Blog? Because EVERYONE is talking about the Vikings. MVP: Ziggi Wilf
My Viking MVP
In the spirit of the Nobel Prize committee, I vote for Barack Obama as the person who has done the most to help the Vikings get off to a 4-0 start.
by Midnight Rambler on Oct 9, 2009 1:00 PM CDT reply actions
1194 votes?
Uhmmm, is this blog really being read by nearly 1200 different people, or can you vote multiple times?
That’s an awful lot of lurkers…..
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