This draft is pretty loaded in QB’s too. Watching the college live show, they talked about bradford slipping into the later part of the first round. This pleases me. I wouldn’t mind taking snead from ole miss either. I also like the houston QB.

But for the love of god… no tebow… no.

I count 11 franchise QB’s from 1st round and zero from 2d out of 8 chosen???

Who are you calling a franchise QB? By my count there are only 7 first rounders I would consider a franchise QB, and that’s counting Flacco and Matt Ryan, and as good as they have been it might be a little early to call them a franchise QB—to say nothing of the 2009 picks.

So I would say it’s closer to a 30% success rate myself.

First, the Vikings should draft the best player available in round 1. The only exception to this would be running back, since we’ve got one.

Second, Tarvaris Jackson is the future of this club. When the Vikings give him a new contract, it will be a great day. I agree with drafting a QB but only for insurance purposes. Rosenfels is a good backup QB. Booty would probably not have worked out, but maybe he returns to Vikings’ training camp next year and out-competes everyone. You never know.

Assuming the Vikings’ first draft pick is in the bottom of the first round, sure, draft a quarterback, if he’s the best player available.

Favre may retire at the end of the season. There will be other free agents allowing the Vikings time to develop another QB for insurance purposes. We might see on the market: Kolb/Vick/McNabb, Kyle Orton (on the last year of his contract), Josh Johnson, Kerry Collins, Vince Young, Trent Edwards, Jason Campbell, Chad Pennington, Mark Bulger, Shaun Hill, Daunte Culpepper, and Brooks Bollinger.

The Vikings do not have to draft a quarterback #1 next year.

2003 – Carson Palmer
2004 – Ely Manning, Phillip Rivers, Ben Rothlisberger
2005 – Aaron Rogers
2006 – Cutler (maybe)
2007 – Nobody
2008 – Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco (maybe)
thats 9 out of 18 in first round and none in the second round (Not counting 2009)
and 0/7 in the second round (also not including 2009 draft)

Just because a player has played a significant number of starts for his team, does not make him a franchise player. (see Jason Cambell). I don’t think that there are too meny Redskins fans who wouldn’t trade Cambell for a box of practice footballs right now.

And while 50% may seem like a high success rate, the cost (financially) of a first round QB is very high. high enough that a drafting a journeymen instead of a franchise QB could kill your cap for years. and a bust can just destroy it (look at jamarcus Russell in Oakland). If next year still has a cap, they can’t afford to cut him, and no one will take him in trade.

We do need a QB, but we should not draft one in the first round just to draft one.

as an aside, I only count 20 first rounders in your list and 8 second, not the 23 and 7.

2003- only Palmer has been close to consistent and remains with his original team. So far, the rest have been considered bust’s. One is the loneliest number.

2004-Probably the best one regarding QB’s as of late as Losman is the only one who hasn’t done squat. It’s a 3-way

2005-Rodgers is the only one to me that has proven anything. Campbell may have been the Skins starter the last few years but I have a hard time thinking he will really go much farther then he has and has been somewhat inconsistent. Smith really hasn’t proven himself either, though there might be a slight chance figuring he has been on a bad 49ers team till recent. I will take Rodgers as the only one worthy so far here. 1

2006-Here is where I piss off the brethren. No one, including Crybaby Cutler or our T.J. has shown anything to get worked up over. Yeah, when he is hot, Cutler is hot, but that seems to be every other week at best. This hasn’t changed from Denver or Chi-town. T.J. has seemed more comfortable and seems to make more plays when he has been named the 2nd string. As of yet, I still have not seen much over all to tell me he will ever be the one we have needed to lead this team. So a big 0 for this year as well. If some say T.J. makes it 1 for this year, then why do we have a twice un-retired QB as our starting QB?

2007-Kolb has made himself at least a very competent back-up and who knows if/how he will do if he takes over the reins in Philly or somewhere else. Russell has turned into this decades Kordell Stewart, athletic but with the brains of Forrest Gump. Quinn may possess the skills but never will see them with the Browns. Goose Egg here

2008-No arguements with the 1st round of this year. Two very solid Rookies who will only get better with a few more years under their belts. Henne seems to be doing ok being thrust into the starter roll at Miami. Definite 2 here, with a possible 3rd depending on next years situation in Miami.

2009-While both are rookies and as of yet only played this season, both were drafted as the new face of both franchises. Sanchez started hot, came to Earth but will have the Jets fighting for at least a Wild Card. Stafford will have a tougher year being on Detroit, but again, was drafted as the man for now and the future. I am counting both as the Franchise QB’s. 2

So for me, that makes it 9 with the rest so far being to inconsistent to be considered the face of the franchise.

I knew that people would differ on who is and isn’t a franchise QB. I will say this. If the Vikes draft someone who another team will give 2- #1’s a #3 and a #5 to get thats a franchise QB. Whether you like Cutler or not his price qualifies. Did your QB take you to the Superbowl? That probably qualifies no matter how much Grossman sucked. In other words Did you make a good #1 pick? Leftwich? Successful. Of course not all played for 10 years. Just like Culpepper. But wasn’t Culpepper a great QB draft selection? I was pointing out that more than 50%are far from bust.

Would you take Kolb today? I would based on his performance. Henne? Same.

Ask yourself this. The vikings traded away the #18 pick to Kansas city for Jared Allen. KC traded it to Baltimore who used it to get Flacco. Did the Vikes do the right thing? Of course now that Farve is with us the decision was great. but if we didn’t have Farve would you rather have Flacco or Allen? These are draft decisions. No one team will ever be 100% right or wrong (except Oakland).
When we draft next year I think we need to draft a QB with our #1 pick if and only if that person is judged by our scouts and evaluators to be the Viking QB for the future. Otherwise get another journeyman until the right QB comes along.

Look through the list and ask yourself are these guys better than the perpetual backups that come in free agency? I’m not willing to pay the draft pick cost that Chicago paid for a good QB. We need the talent of a Farve as proven by this years success. I just think the only way to get it is by drafting. If the right guy isn’t available then take the best fotball player available that fits your system ( Harvin).

Hard to tell if Travaris is better than Smith. He has not stepped up and shown he can effectively run this offense. His pass selection seems to mirror those QB’s that end up on the bench as permanent back-ups. He might be better with time behind Farve. I certainly hope he is what they thought he was when drafted.

Smith was ready to be the Starter on Baltimores team. Flacco did not win the job in training camp. Flacco played due to injury. Flacco is special and Smith will never win his starter job back no matter how talented he his.. Just like Houston trading for the Atlantta backup I pose the thought that Smith might be an answer since his contract is up this year.

Quarterback, Bowling Green. 6’3. Senior. Has played for four years, and started for three years.

Terrific player. Makes clutch plays. Great intangibles. Good throwing mechanics. Good accuracy. Throws great all over the field. Has taken a lot of snaps under center in college, though mostly in shotgun.

I will look him up but I do not prefer a kid from a spread offense. Most college programs today run this set because they don’t have the talent for a pro-style offense. However if the talent is there the project can sometimes be successful.
I imagine you see him as a 2nd or 3rd round pick or later. These players become franchise guys less than 30% of the time. Do we have that luxury? Just asking.

I just posted a review of the Vikings needs and existing contracts. I thought it would be a good place to start in looking forward to the draft.