Favre Wins in Homecoming, but Harvin Steals the Show
Percy Harvin is ridiculous.
If there's any conclusion to be made from The Game Of The Year, it's that there are many teams who should be ashamed of themselves for deciding against selecting The Steal Of The Draft last spring. This game was supposed to be the Brett Favre Show, and to a large extent, it was. He lived up to the occasion -- I hardly need to elaborate on the pressure he was under and his skill at maintaining poise throughout a roller coaster of a game.
But Favre is hardly the headline from this game. That distinction belongs to Percy.
Anyone who watched even part of the Vikings' encounter with the Packers in Lambeau immediately understood the extent to which Harvin can change a game in an instant. Down three early in the first quarter, discouraged after a boneheaded play in which John Sullivan inexplicably snapped the ball when Brett wasn't expecting it? No matter. Harvin pulls off a huge kickoff return and the offense uses the short field to take a 7-3 lead.
Green Bay is storming back after a painful-to-watch fumble by Brian Robison on a kickoff? A commanding lead has been cut to 24-20 in the third quarter? No worries. After pulling to within four, the Packers dumbfounded an audience of millions by putting the ball in Percy's hands on the ensuing kickoff. A return into Packers' territory gives the Vikings offense another short field, and Favre tosses a touchdown to Jeff Dugan to complete the drive.
Indeed, this game was the Percy Harvin Show. Despite the defense's best efforts to melt down once again in the second half, the magnificence of Harvin was too much for the Packers to handle.
Of course, that leads me into the downers of this game. Leslie Frazier, in his infinite wisdom, once again took his foot off the acceleration when the Vikings pulled ahead by three scores. His defense had been absolutely slaughtering Aaron Rodgers in the first half, but as Frazier has proven, he can't pass up a golden opportunity to become complacent and let a dying team back into the game. The Robison fumble can't be blamed on the defense, and that play undeniably swung the momentum in Green Bay's direction. But if that play gave the Packers some much-needed momentum, the Vikings defense ensured that the momentum would remain with Green Bay.
Frazier deserves a head-coaching gig? At times this season, I've wondered if he even deserves to be the defensive coordinator for this team. Granted, that's little more than a knee-jerk reaction to a host of late-game defensive meltdowns, but this isn't the first time the defense has been atrocious this season when given a big lead.
In addition to the embarrassing lack of pressure imposed on Aaron Rodgers in the second half, the players themselves have no excuse for the carnival of missed tackles we witnessed. Frazier bizarrely took the defense's pace down way more than he should have, but the poor tackling hardly helped matters.
And yet, the Vikings still pulled it out. Adrian Peterson was slowed down early on but he became progressively more productive. Sidney Rice was a dependable target for Favre, as was the phenomenal Percy Harvin.
Really, you can't say enough about what Harvin accomplished out there today. 261 all-purpose yards later, we were seeing comparisons of Harvin's performance to Randy Moss' breakout performance in Lambeau. Not a topic I care to explore too deeply, but the mere fact that the comparison was made speaks volumes about Harvin.
So despite the disappointing defensive effort in the second half, the Vikings persevered. An unflappable veteran quarterback leading his team to a pair of key fourth quarter touchdowns (we can't thank Teddy T. enough). An electrifying rookie giving the Vikings momentum boosts at the right moments. There's a lot to be happy about.
That's how we head into the bye -- with some concerns but lots to be excited about. This team's inability to put teams away has been a consistent theme in the first half of the season. But Percy Harvin is unquestionably The Steal Of The Draft and your early-season favorite for Rookie of the Year honors. And the old man has been great. How sweet is it that, after getting booed by the classy Lambeau fans, Favre left with the last laugh?
7-1. A memorable eight games. Here's to a strong finish.
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They Are Talking About Childress getting Extenstion In Bye Week.
Good Ideal?
Why Do People Question The Vikings' Status?
by UnBannedVikingholic on Nov 1, 2009 6:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
not a great idea, that's for sure
I say wait til he wins a playoff game before they give him an extension.
by chaosg on Nov 1, 2009 9:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd give it to him
Though I don’t feel Chilly is a supreme coach, he does keep the guys playing hard and the drama to a minimum. Look at all the new coaches in the league that are absolutely flopping right now. I don’t want to risk it.
Stick with the devil you know. I feel that Chilly gets better at this coaching thing every year and I think they are doing a wonderful job of coaching this season. We’re 7-1.
With that said I don’t understand why we can’t just wait until the end of the season. Brad likes it here are I doubt he wants to go start all over with a junk team because those would be the types of teams that would come after him or Frazier.
by Sand0 on Nov 2, 2009 7:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would also give it to him. I really haven’t liked his play calling in the past, but going for it on 4th and 1 (twice) deep in Packer territory is the ballsy type of move I want my coach to make.
by zebano on Nov 2, 2009 8:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Extend him with a clause
that says we can fire him if he loses the first playoff game
by cdubs on Nov 2, 2009 8:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no crappy coach
just been handed the keys to a bentley which is the vikings.
by clinton p on Nov 2, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
handed the keys?
He built the “Bentley.” Be fair. Those keys he was handed went to the “Love Boat,” which thankfully he has kept docked at the pier with a tarp over it.
by puddnhead on Nov 3, 2009 1:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I love Percy
I was one of the doubters/haters when the Vikes drafted Percy Harvin in June, but it took approximately one game for me to realize how wrong I was about this guy. Whatever issues he may have had off the field he has more than made up for them on the field. He has played hard, and tough, and made so many big plays for this team, and I am so greatful that he is wearing Vikings purple.
by Northstar27 on Nov 1, 2009 6:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Whatever issues he may have had off the field
i’m intersted in hearing what vikings fans have to say about percy’s character now that they’ve seen him interacting with teammates and the press? from my vantage, his “character issues” were always SUPREMELY overblown and basically amounted to one marijuana test and a blow-up at a high school referee. no one at UF ever had one bad thing to say about the guy, and his commitment to the team was evident to everyone.
by Natty Bumppo on Nov 2, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think any teammate would have a problem with a player like him. Like you stated, never heard of him being a bad teammate. And his willingness to block, play physical and heart to go over the middle wins him respect (even from Packer fans like me). Then throw in his big plays and I would bet he is probally not carrying vetern’s bags on road trips or anything they usually make most rookies do. He earned his stripes already.
by Sequoia on Nov 2, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It sounds like there have been no issues
But who knows, that may have more to do with veteran leadership and winning as much as Harvin himself. On the offense anyway, that is one of the “intangibles” Favre brought, as long as Favre shows he is a team guy, Harvin is going to naturally follow that lead no matter what he might have done in the past. He showed that even before the season with the “he taught me more in a couple days than I’d learned my entire life up to them” (or whatever it was). It was pretty clear from that moment that there wouldn’t be ego issues there.
by puddnhead on Nov 3, 2009 1:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
right but there were never ego issues at UF. he actually enjoyed the fact that it was tebow’s team. i think harvin’s comments about favre had a lot more to do with the game of football, i.e. running routes, blocking, doing the little things.
by Natty Bumppo on Nov 3, 2009 2:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
7-1. A memorable eight games. Here’s to a strong finish.
I’ll drink to that. Who’s with me? :)
by EasternVike on Nov 1, 2009 6:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm sick...
But I’ll cheers my tea.
Yeah, Harvin rules. What’s even better is the look on the face of my good friend and lifelong Green Bay Packers fan; utter disgust. I’m loving every second of it.
by AustinVike on Nov 1, 2009 6:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lifting coffee cup in the air....
To the strongest finish….SB Rings for Vikings baby….
Afterthoughts: Now (1) if NO loses, day will be perfect…. (2) Indy got lucky today, shows they are like every other team on any given day…Denver and Arizona got beat….YES, GOOD DAY INDEED!!!
SKOL!
I would rather be IN the Arena than watching from the stands...That is my life!
* Read Teddy Roosevelt's "Man in the Arena" if you need further explanation...
by vikingfanfrom afar on Nov 1, 2009 6:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm in there :)
Time to polish off the last of my Sam Adams Irish Red, and bask in the glow of well-earned victory by the Mighty Norsemen!
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Nov 1, 2009 6:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Great game.
The division is all but wrapped up. My two biggest wishes right now are for Winfield to get healthy and for us sign Chris Mccalister. We won’t win many playoff games with these defensive collapses.
by All Day, All Night on Nov 1, 2009 6:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I’m a Ravens fan as well as a Vikings fan, and I would LOVE to see Chris McCalister wearing a Vikings uniform this year. Would definitely give the Vikes some added depth in the secondary this season.
by Northstar27 on Nov 1, 2009 7:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
McCalister
Is there even one reason why we shouldn’t sign this guy? What would it hurt? He can’t be any worse than Karl Paymah.
by Jayrome007 on Nov 1, 2009 8:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Paymah has hung in there, but McCalister would be a major improvement in my opinion.
by Northstar27 on Nov 1, 2009 10:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
McCalister
Yeah, sigh him and use him as the right corner in nickel situations and move Winfield into the slot. Toine’ would be such a beast in the nickel slot. Then when they go two WR sets just take McCalister off the field and let Winfield play in his usual spot.
by Sand0 on Nov 2, 2009 7:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hold on...
R u kidding! Paymah is atrocious, he was beaten 2x for TD’s in back to back 3rd & longs in the redzone. He can’t cover a teams #5 WR yet he’s starting. He wouldn’t make my practice squad. WATCH THE TAPE!
SKOL! Dawgs
by WarriorViking on Nov 2, 2009 3:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
worried about a jinx
I’d rather have one victory against Chicago in the books before I start talking about the division being wrapped up.
by puddnhead on Nov 3, 2009 1:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lovin' this team
The just know how to win and all these tight , physical, emotional games are making us stronger each week. We are proving that we can handle it.
I agree with the Leslie Frazier bit…. I am not sure this team is taking advantage of the amount of talent we have on defense (Allen, both Williams, Henderson, Winfield, Greenway, etc). We are underachieving if you asked me and that is all on Frazier.
by PurpleJesus on Nov 1, 2009 6:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t like to blame defensive collapses on missing a player, but we NEED Winfield back. The Packers attacked Paymah, Allen, and Sapp too easily all game.
by cutlassbob on Nov 1, 2009 6:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree 100 %
I would rather be IN the Arena than watching from the stands...That is my life!
* Read Teddy Roosevelt's "Man in the Arena" if you need further explanation...
by vikingfanfrom afar on Nov 1, 2009 6:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just an amazing player...
As a Packerfan, that obviously was a loss that is not comfortable to deal with. But, it was still a great game. A few thoughts…..
- Percy Harvin is a special, special player. If a person respects the game of football he will admit that he is fun to watch. His heart, play-making and big time plays are very very special and rare indeed. He was indeed the difference maker this game.
- Brett Farve – I thought again did an excellent job not getting too caught up. He played the game within himself and made some huge 3rd down conversions. He is not maing the mistakes that have plagued him in the past. This year he has even impressed me and added to his legacy. Truely remarkable.
- Great defensive game plan by Leslie frasier. Rodgers looked perplexed in the first half and all out of sorts. It set the tone for the entire game.
- Aaron Rodgers – looked horrible the first half, but I respect the way he bounced back in the second half. Would be nice to get a line to block for him.
A fun game to watch (except the first half ;) , and congratulations on a well deserved victory. We came up short and the better team lost. There is no shame in that and now off to chase the wild card. Wish you guys the best of luck and hopefully we face each other one more time :))
PS…… I really was hopping like to fighters that Favre and Rodgers will meet and congratulate each other….. both I thought proved their toughness.
by Sequoia on Nov 1, 2009 6:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Nice post...Except I believe the better team won :)
by IlinoisVike on Nov 1, 2009 6:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think I like Aaron Rodgers as a person, from what I’m seeing… but as a QB, he’s tough and resourceful, you guys are lucky to have him and he’ll ensure a good future for the team. Rodgers did just fine in both halves, with what he had to work with.
Favre is playing some pretty amazing football, and I say that as an honest evaluation. For the guy who’s hugely known for being an INT-machine, every INT he’s thrown this year (and there’s only been 4 of them I think) has truly not been his fault. That impresses me a lot, I hate INTs. I read the interview with his daughter and I’m actually starting to like Favre. A little.
Harvin is amazing, moreso because he’s not as good as he’s going to get. Once he gets more comfortable with the speed of things in the NFL and stops dropping balls, he’s going to be astounding. We got very lucky to be able to pick him up.
Thanks for the classy post, Sequoia.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Nov 1, 2009 7:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
One of his picks was all on Favre, but amnesia is natural when things are going great….
TiggerSr
by TiggerSr on Nov 1, 2009 7:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hehe...
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Nov 1, 2009 10:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that's on 228 throws, too.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Nov 1, 2009 10:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope he 'sucks' all season long...
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Nov 2, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
get over it we are still 7-1
as a team nimrod qb is one position if you can’t accept one of our players your not a fan bleeding purple my but
by clinton p on Nov 2, 2009 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Speak english
I’m just going to type sentences that run on to each other without periods did you see that game favre kicked your butt you shoulda never let him go your line sucks vikings are going to the superbowl ha
by cdubs on Nov 2, 2009 4:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fan rule book
Where does it state you have to like every player on the roster to be a fan? By that logic none of us are fans after the thrashing we did to Ryan Cook last year. And I lost my fandom years ago with Moss. One thing I do not tolerate from our players is taking plays off and dogging it. Dogging training camp and dogging tackles on INT returns. I judge a player by dedication and effort, not by if he’s wearing horns or not.
by Heech on Nov 3, 2009 12:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I suppose it’s just me, but when the ball hits the receiver, especially when it hits the hands of the receiver, and the receiver doesn’t catch that ball, I’m not inclined to blame the QB. Especially when the ball then proceeds to fly from the hands of the receiver to the hands of the opponent.
Sure, I’ve seen the arguments about how Favre threw the ball too hard, but I don’t see that used as an excuse from the receivers themselves. Hence, there’s absolutely no reason to think that Favre was at fault when he placed the ball approximately where it needed to be and someone else blew it.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Nov 2, 2009 7:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
woah DC you sure ain't easy
Ever go see the Nats play?
by Salty on Nov 2, 2009 7:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Classy GB fan-post
Thanks, Sequoia for being classy about the loss – good points, too.
I tip my hat to the Packers for a hard-fought comeback attempt late in the game – impressive passing attack, that’s for sure.
I don’t really think that Favre even cared about “revenge” – all that crap was just media-blab. I also don’t fault GB fans for booing him, per se – after all he is an opponent, now. What else should they do?? I dunno…
Percy Harvin, I love you (as much as a man can love a football player). XOXOXOXO
LOL.
SKOL VIKINGS!! Enjoy your Bye week and being on top o’ the Division!
by Wytefang on Nov 1, 2009 7:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wish you guys the best of luck
You are either not a Packer fan or you are lying.
by Jayrome007 on Nov 1, 2009 8:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m lying? Why? you can respect your competition in a loss. Believe me, no one wanted to see the Packers win more than me….but it was a great game and hard fought. When you lose twice, there is not much else to do besides tip your cap. What do you want me to curse all the great posters here?? or the Vikings in general? I hope we meet in the playoffs and I hope Green bay wins, but not much is accomplished by pouting or being immature. This game hurt to lose, but that also means it was important. There is half a season to play….and the Viking have earned my resepect so far. Should I lie and say they haven’t? They are worthy adversaries and have a bunch of guys who I would love to have on my team. But great comment by teh way…seeing you don’t me or obviosuly haven’t been following my posts on here.
by Sequoia on Nov 1, 2009 9:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Believe me, no one wanted to see the Packers win more than me….
Ted Thompson did.
by Figgs on Nov 2, 2009 7:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There must have been other people up in the box with him
but that camera shot they showed him, it looked like he was alone. It had a bit of a Shakesperian feel to it.
by Salty on Nov 2, 2009 7:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You misread my comment. Notice what I quoted. I’m actually quite appreciative of your respectful posting. There aren’t enough fans like yourself out there. But that wasn’t what I was debating. I was confused by your “wishing us the best of luck”. Maybe you Packer fans work differently (somehow I doubt it), but as a Vikings fan I want you to lose, lose, and lose some more simply but it benefits my team. In order for us to win the division, we need to finish with a better record than you and vise versa. Why
wouldn’tyou want the Vikings to lose? Its your only chance at success.
by Jayrome007 on Nov 2, 2009 10:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
whoops
the wouldn’t is supposed to be italics not quoted
by Jayrome007 on Nov 2, 2009 10:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No.. i understand.. and I think most Packer fans are also like that. But this year I have come to the realization that we are just not in your class. Now Obviously i wouldn’t mind you losing the next 8 games, but obviously for that to happen it would require injuries to Percy harvin and Brett Farve. This I do not wish for. We got beat twice by you guys and really have weaknesses that the Vikings exploited perfectly. Losing twice means the only way i will feel good about you losing is if/when we face each other in the playoffs :)
No.. i understand.. and I think most Packer fans are also like that. But this year I have come to the realization that we are just not in your class. Now Obviously i wouldn’t mind you losing the next 8 games, but obviously for that to happen it would require injuries to Percy harvin and Brett Farve. This I do not wish for. We got beat twice by you guys and really have weaknesses that the Vikings exploited perfectly. Losing twice means the only way i will feel good about you losing is if/when we face each other in the playoffs :)- in 1996 when Green bay won the Super Bowl, we got extremely lucky and never had to face the Dallas Cowboys who had knocked us out of the playoffs the previous 3 years and also beat us 3-4 times in the regular season. As much fun as the Super Bowl was, there was void of not having the chance to beat the Cowboys. For me personally, victories are always more enjoyable when you beat great teams. Hence the reason why no one in Minnesota or Green bay breaks out the champagne when we beat the Lions. So when I wish you the best, it is because you beat us fair and square and there is no question who is the better team right now. I respect the hell out of the Viking players (which is very very strange for me) and really really hope we can meet again in the playoffs .
by Sequoia on Nov 2, 2009 11:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah i don’t think there is a doubt the better team won….. mispost… sorry… ignore :)
by Sequoia on Nov 1, 2009 6:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
One thing to address
remind everyone on kick return not named Percy Harvin that they are not kick returners
From the only TRUE North division
by thewild_viking_twins on Nov 1, 2009 6:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Oh hell ya!
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Nov 1, 2009 7:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
for the classy post Sequioa. It’s been so long since we have had a true QB running our KAO that I am giddy for even being able to put 38 points. Rodgers can be scary good and once your O-line gets fixed and the 3-4 is better….I’d rather not think about that yet :)
by cutlassbob on Nov 1, 2009 6:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Dang, forgot to hit the “reply” button again…
by cutlassbob on Nov 1, 2009 6:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don Banks
Can’t wait to read Don Banks’ next Packer apology column.
by Midnight Rambler on Nov 1, 2009 6:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He's already hung himself
From the only TRUE North division
by thewild_viking_twins on Nov 1, 2009 7:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL….yeah, he’s really been a bummer to read at times this season. Peter King, I think, has been more reasonable at least.
by Wytefang on Nov 1, 2009 7:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Funny you mention that, Banks lives a block from me, I’m pretty sure I went trick or treating with my daughter to his house (the “hung himself” comment reminded me of some front lawn Halloween decorations). I meant to find out exactly which house it was, and pay attention when we came there, maybe get in a quip with him, but I was talking with other parents & forgot all about it.
by puddnhead on Nov 3, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Good post Sequuioa. A little class goes a long way and here’s to seeing you guys in the play offs.
If you can get your hands on the ball you should be able to catch it no matter what!
by Jimemort on Nov 1, 2009 7:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Anybody Think We would've lost if we won last week?
Why Do People Question The Vikings' Status?
by UnBannedVikingholic on Nov 1, 2009 7:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not really, this was a very different game, in a class by itself really
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Nov 1, 2009 7:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Nov 1, 2009 7:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No
I think last week showed me how solid a team we are. I really didn’t doubt we could go into Lambeau and come home with a woin after last week.
Truth is, I think the schedule helped us…. We just played two physical teams before the Packers and the Steelers were also a 3-4 Defense, we played on grass, on the road. Having to do it back to back weeks makes it a bit more familiar in my mind and less of a challenge to get used to.
by PurpleJesus on Nov 1, 2009 7:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
7-1!!!
Halfway to the playoffs!!!
SKOL!!!
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Nov 1, 2009 7:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Recall
I heard that the Vikings 5 most memorable games will be recalled and add this game to it..:D
by tyr on Nov 1, 2009 7:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I’m a Packers fan but today I was more of a Brett Favre fan. It still disgusts me that the Packers chose freaking Aaron Rodgers over Favre. I was as disapointed as anybody when he signed with the Vikings but I still don’t get how any real Packers fan could boo him after all he has done for the franchise.
Anyways, congrats on the win. As long as the Vikings stay healthy in the second half of the season I think you guys have a great chance at winning the Super bowl.
Go Leafs and Bruins!
www.mma-elite.com
by Brad Ackerson on Nov 1, 2009 7:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
booing and stuff
The boos were not unexpected. I found it to be in poor taste, especially for a man who gave Green Bay fans so much. I say cheer him at first, then go ahead and boo him as you would anyone else. I was embarrassed. But that’s me.
What matters is that the Packers lost. Good for you, Vikings fans. I’m not bitter. I am disappointed. Still, it is hard to stay completely down when Favre is your winning QB.
I agree that the Vikings have a good chance to go far in the playoffs. The Saints might have something to say about who goes to the SB. Early in the year I might have given the big edge to Minnesota, but now I am not sure. NO looks good.
by starmark on Nov 1, 2009 7:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the Saints are looking pretty ferocious so far… but we’re not quite half way through the season, lots can (and will) happen between now and the playoffs.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Nov 2, 2009 7:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As the rare vikings and white sox fan, let me make a comparison
Frank Thomas is easily the best player in white sox history, much like favre. 2 MVPs, a world series ring, gonna get a statue and his number on the wall. but after 2005, his option was declined and Thome was brought in. Our GM swore at Thomas in the media. But Thome was the right move to make the sox a better team, and the fans understood it. He got rousing ovations every trip he made to chicago afterward. hell, crede signed with the twins immediately after leaving the white sox, and he got cheers his first plate appearance, and he hit a home run. not TOO many cheers after that, and he was no where near the caliber of player that a favre or a thomas is/was. My experience with these things is colored witht that, and with all the favre jerseys i still see around, i couldn’t understand the booing. i blame the media presence, who were on favre’s knob forever, and i don’t think he was calling press conferences himself down in kiln.
Lurking since 2006
by boyonthedock on Nov 2, 2009 1:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
NOOOOOOOO
Please refrain from using the SB words here. We don’t have a good history when speaking of the last game of the year during the regular season. As a matter of fact, can the webmaster please put in a word replacement for @#per %$wl?
by Heech on Nov 3, 2009 12:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Will Someone Please Explain To Me...
How in the devil Percy Harvin was overlooked in the draft so badly and fell to…22nd? That guy is un-friggin’-real. Man, the Purple are having some damn good luck in drafts, Adrian Peterson in 2007 and now Harvin? Amazing.
I will confess, I expected nothing of this caliber from Favre. After seeing 38-year old Brad “Noodle Arm” Johnson make a mockery of the Vikings offense, I thought, “Great, another old quarterback”. But Favre has been just plain amazing at times, hell, most of the time. What, 16 TD’s to 3 INT’s? Unreal. I can see why the Pack didn’t want him playing for the Vikings.
I must tip my hat to Aaron Rodgers. That guy is just plain tough and good. Sacked six times, yet puts up 280 and three scores? And no picks? The fact that the Pack is 4-3 with that O-line…difficulty speaks again volumes about Rodger’s ability.
And Aaron Rodgers is the only QB this season to throw more than two touchdowns against this defense.
I tip my hat to the Packer fans and Viking fans who are good sports, we all are NFL fans and it’s all about enjoying the sport.
The Vikings just finished that nasty three game run 2-1 and are looking in fine shape. They play their next five of eight at home including a three-game homestead. The Vikings are looking at the very real possibility of going 10-1. 13-3 is definitely within reach. Gawd, it feels good to see a Viking quarterback play that well.
GO VIKES!!!
by Purple And Gold Forever on Nov 1, 2009 7:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Harvin smoked pot and failed his U/A at the combine.
ADAP was coming off a broken collar bone when the vikes drafted him. I believe he was the 7th pick in the 1st round ?, so he didn’t actually fall that far.
by chaosg on Nov 1, 2009 9:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a far fall
for somebody projected to be a top 3 pick, and possibly the first overall, especially when you look at the teams who passed by on him, who could really have used a RB of his quality.
by Frost on Nov 1, 2009 11:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think anybody knew that AP would become the All-Star he is today.
Those teams that passed on ADAP are kicking themselves in the ass for doing so. Those teams passed on ADAP for a reason though. AP missed games every year in college due to injury’s, and recovering from a broken collar bone is no-joke in the NFL….very risky!
Same could be said about Randy Moss. People knew Moss had attitude problems, so 16 teams passed on him before the Vikings picked him. If those other teams had known Moss was going to catch 16-TD’s and become ROY, Moss would have been drafted long before 17th in the 1st rd.
by chaosg on Nov 2, 2009 5:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, there is some explanation for those two falling down to those picks.
Frankly those drops made a lot more sense than Rodgers falling as far as he did. THAT one is the real head scratcher, I’ve never heard any rational explanation except “team X had a bigger need to fill”
by puddnhead on Nov 3, 2009 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
drafts are always a crapshoot.
Rodgers fell into the 20’s as well, with alex fucking smith #1 overall. being dumb enough to smoke pot a week before the combine is a pretty big red flag in the Goodelle era of personal conduct. I’m glad the Vike’s took a chance on his obvious talent.
Lurking since 2006
by boyonthedock on Nov 2, 2009 1:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Biggest defensive issue
Is poor tackling in the secondary. The story of the second half was the extra 3-5 yards (or more) GB receivers consistently got because of missed or poorly angled/executed tackles. That more than anything showed me how important Winfield is to us. Those extra yards feed confidence and swagger and the belief that a team can come back—which Green Bay did with a vengeance.
The second most concerning thing to me about the second half defense was the play calling. Is it just me or were there too many times that our defensive guys were put in a position to NOT make a play? Granted Rodgers is excellent at sniffing those moments out, but for awhile there it seemed like every single play somebody was out position or playing a zone not tight enough, etc. Thoughts? Am I off base here? Are these player’s mistakes and not Fraziers?
"Come on Eddie, let's get serious."
by biggity2bit on Nov 1, 2009 7:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm
I dunno. Lets look at the tape over next few days. But it appeared to me that the Pack changed their approach to protection at halftime, keeping more guys in to block and shutting the Vikes pass rush down. Looked like Vikes defensive line got tired in 3d quarter also. Give Rodgers time, and he will burn the zone, especially when played by mediocre DBs. The difference between the 1st and 2d half for Rodgers was the pass rush vs. protection. After much futility in 2d half, Frazier started calling more blitzes, which Rodgers burned every time (as he did last month at the Dome).
The Defense finally made the stop when they needed it most, and the Packers missed the ensuing FG. But let there be no mistake about it, the Vikes pass defense is WEAK. Even with Winfield, it is mediocre. Unless the front 4 get a rush, the D will get burned by Brees and probably by Warner or McNabb. I don’t know if Frazier can fix this before the playoffs. It will be the Vikes downfall. It is looking like 2000 again. Even the record….
TiggerSr
by TiggerSr on Nov 1, 2009 8:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In my opinion
What you wrote is all pretty much correct except one thing. Rodgers played awful in the first half. He was tight. He was afraid to throw downfield. He held it and held it and I have a hard time believing that nobody was open downfield. They had the lowest offensive output in a first half in like 8 decades I think the announcers said.
Rodgers melted under the blinding media hype. Too bad for them I guess.
NO looks great as well but let’s not crown their asses just yet. Vikings offense is pretty elite as well and we might be able to outlast them in a shootout. Don’t forget either that NO was awful last season with essentially the same players. It is possible that they fall back down to earth a hair.
It’s the Saints for Christ sakes.
by Sand0 on Nov 2, 2009 7:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He did look nervous. Our D-line, their O-line, national spotlight, a game where he has to keep his team in the hunt…
by Salty on Nov 2, 2009 8:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not so sure about fatigue
Last week I would have agreed with your analysis as to the probable cause, but this week I have to question fatigue as being the answer. If it were fatigue, how did the D manage to stand back up in the 4th quarter? In fact, as the 4th went on, it seemed they got closer to their 1st half form.
On the secondary, one of the things that stood out to me was Benny Sapp’s aggression. He’s got a lot of it, and it makes him lead with his head which is going to lead him to ‘spearing’ penalties of one sort or another (as he got against the Steelers). I don’t think he’s intentionally trying to ram people with his helmet, he’s just got a ‘head-first and howling’ style of play. The biggest weakness of that is if the other guy sees Benny coming, it’s easy to side-step him, which is why Benny gets burned. On the other hand, when Paymuh couldn’t close the deal on a red zone stand, it was Benny Sapp who came charging in to wrap it up. Given a choice between Paymuh and Sapp, I’d keep Sapp.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Nov 2, 2009 8:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Two things:
First, hope you enjoyed the win. (Dammit).
Second, thanks for the lack of trolling. I was on the gamethread and post-game thread most of the afternoon over at ACME and with the exception of one tool (packerslayer) who turned up a few minutes ago, there hasn’t been a single Viking troll commenting over at ACME all afternoon.
Much appreciated.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 1, 2009 8:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Packerslayer has only posted 3 times on DN
It looks like he’s gone from site to site trolling. He’s not one of us.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Nov 1, 2009 8:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta love idiots
"That is the craziest sonofabitch I ever saw, how many more like him do you think are up there?"
by VikesFaninNM on Nov 1, 2009 9:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've said this since the day we drafted him
Percy Harvin = Randy Moss
The Colorado Rockies aren't a team, they're an armada.
by free7694 on Nov 1, 2009 8:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
What is with you people?
Wow. Thats about as ridiculous as I’ve ever heard. Harvin is a great player and probably a steal at the spot he was picked. But were you even around for Randy Moss’ coming out year (1998)? There was literally no stopping him. Right now Harvin is a great kick return but just an ok WR. He has some work to do on his game but eventually he’ll get there.
by Jayrome007 on Nov 1, 2009 8:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Correction
Percy Harvin = Randy Moss + playing every down
by Heech on Nov 3, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe my memory is fuzzy...
but I don’t remember Moss going over the middle his rookie year AND making the catches that PH has been making in that space. I remember Moss running to the endzone and outjumping defenders to catch the ball, rinse, repeat.
Don’t get me wrong… he was very good at it. I think PH is more athletic and works harder for the same goal.
and like Heech, I appreciate that effort MORE.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Nov 3, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
When we get Winfield back then what?
Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!
by VikesPma on Nov 1, 2009 8:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
practice,
practice makes perfect
take a kid fishing, it's good for the soul. not only yours, but the child's as well !
by whanabarf on Nov 1, 2009 8:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But dont go overboard with the guy. Since the Lions are the next victim in two weeks, we could leave him out of the whole game or put him in here and there. Dont want to use him up right off the bat.
"That is the craziest sonofabitch I ever saw, how many more like him do you think are up there?"
by VikesFaninNM on Nov 1, 2009 9:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
just for fun, I am reading over comments from the packers web site. I’m midway through and a few were calling for the firing of MM and TT. hahaha that’s priceless. RF4 might be on to something….
by dsludo on Nov 1, 2009 8:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I would be more pissed at the lack of any line protection and running game if I was a Packers fan. Grant is ok, but don’t see him being a serious threatening RB each and every game or year
"That is the craziest sonofabitch I ever saw, how many more like him do you think are up there?"
by VikesFaninNM on Nov 1, 2009 9:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Grant is sooo frusterating!! He goes down if you breath on him and can’t catch out of the backfield and isn’t good at pass protection. Oh yeah..and he has no vision. But other than that I think he equals Adrian Peterson and Chester taylor ;)
by Sequoia on Nov 1, 2009 9:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Chester Tatlor proved himself a very worthy every down RB before AP came on board. While I sincerely hope the Vikes resign him, there is a chance he will become a F.A.. He is definately a guy the Pack should look into if he does become a F.A.
"That is the craziest sonofabitch I ever saw, how many more like him do you think are up there?"
by VikesFaninNM on Nov 2, 2009 4:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Taylor that is
"That is the craziest sonofabitch I ever saw, how many more like him do you think are up there?"
by VikesFaninNM on Nov 2, 2009 4:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah actually i would love Chester taylor…i think its unlikely but would be welcome. Hell we are excited about Ahman Green!!!!!! That goes to show you our confidence in Grant. :)))
by Sequoia on Nov 2, 2009 5:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
AD wouldn't exactly be killing it behind that line with no carries
cause you throw the ball every damn down.
Lurking since 2006
by boyonthedock on Nov 2, 2009 2:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Whew. And some observations:
The Packers have given up 13 passing TD’s this year. 7 of those were by the Vikings.
I wonder if Favre has ever had an 8 game stretch in his career with only 3 interceptions.
I’m starting to like Harvin a lot. He is tough and he is giving us great field position frequently on kickoffs.
We have a lot of weapons on offense and the number and quality seems to grow every week.
I wonder what keeps happening to our pass defense in the second half; I will be very glad when Winfield comes back.
I think the division is ours. This (7 and 1) was the about the very best I could hope for at this point. I think the worst we finish at this point is 13 and 3, 14 and 2 is more likely and 15 and 1 may not be out of reach. I think we will be the favorites in every game we play the rest of the year with the possible exception of at Chicago.
New Orleans still looks scary good. Should be a good game.
Whew (again). Glad these two games are out of the way.
by Migrant lurker on Nov 1, 2009 9:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hands down to Harvin
He’s consistently giving the Vikes great field position, and actually scoring TD’s on KR’s. Lets hope he can keep it up.
Good ST’s can take you a long way in Jan/Feb, just ask the 06’ Bears. If the 06’ Bears would have had a better QB than R.Grossman, things could have worked out a little better for them in the SB.
Go Vikes.
by chaosg on Nov 1, 2009 9:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Harvin to the Pro Bowl!
Harvin should be the NFC’s representative as kick returner. He is averaging ungodly numbers on kick returns this year and seems to be getting better at it every week. His production as a WR isn’t too shabby either.
And all this with an injured shoulder that’s kept him on the questionable list for weeks. Can’t wait to see how he does after the bye when he’s back closer to 100%.
by Cobra312004 on Nov 1, 2009 10:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
+1
Just one question though…
How did Kuhn catch Harvin at the 12 on that KR following the Packer’s FG? I was listening on the radio, so I didn’t get to see. Was Harvin gassed, or did he slow down or what? That should’ve been a TD, from what I heard.
by Frost on Nov 1, 2009 11:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Harvin was a bit gassed, but mostly Kuhn had the right angle to intercept Harvin on the sideline.
by cutlassbob on Nov 1, 2009 11:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
angle all the way.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Nov 1, 2009 11:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Harvin stumbled
He stumbled after the kicker got a shoulder on his knee and by the time he fully recoverd there was a packer closing on his left. He cut it back right and then one of those guys got him.
Watching it on film though it was a bit odd. It seemed despite that he should have been able to pull away but didn’t. I don’t think angle was all that important because the guys were behind him initially and just off to the side. Harvin’s path to the zone was shorter but they were at full speed and he was trying to accelerate out of a cut while stumbling.
I have him on my fantasy league and it pissed me off. He hits the endzone I get 6 but the yards are only worth one point every 75 yards. Fortunately I am up 140-20 right now and he only has Brees and NO defense left!
by Sand0 on Nov 2, 2009 7:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Packers (the team) plays with integrity, and toughness right up to the end
The Green Bay fans however, and their negitive verbal display concerning Favre and him becoming a Minnesota Viking is wrong on their part. That is not how you treat someone who has given so much of himself for the Packer team over the years. Shame on all of you, who have bad mouthed one of the greatest QB’s to ever play the game. Fans like you do not deserve a player like Favre. For 6 months all I heard was how bad Favre was. And how he was going to throw more interceptions, than TD passes. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
It’s clear that the Packer team does not share that same negitive agenda. And for that I thank the packers team. And I hope we see you in the play-off’s.
by vnbushman on Nov 1, 2009 10:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe you didn't see 3 fights barely averted
There was no love lost in this game, the Packers were pissed and jazzed up against the Vikings this game, they provoked and pushed and tried to start at least 3 fights that I saw (and maybe a 4th at the line of scrimmage).
They played well, not taking that away, but they want to start a brawl on the football field, make no mistake about it.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Nov 2, 2009 8:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
fan response
is fed by an unbelievable negative media onslaught. Every possible story is spun to make him one notch above Satanic. He’s constantly referred to with words like “despicable.” Yesterday morning I was working and listening to the radio. The ESPN affiliate had a segment where they took some BF comment and said, but what he’s really saying (insert negative comment about GB fans) and then went on to start attacking him with “but now he’s really saying it” even though they just got done making it up. It isn’t just a pregame show or a week, but literally years of demonization. One of the attack leaders is Jason Wilde, a pal of Zulgad. He seethes with hatred despite the fact that they mock people who point out the obvious. I think a lot of it is orchestrated by the Slackers front office. If he doesn’t still work for them, they learned from Ari Fleischer.
by Salty on Nov 2, 2009 8:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How do we get such pressure on the QB and pile up the sacks, yet let QBs complete pass after pass to get back in the game…and never intercept them!?
I can’t blame it all on Frazier, even though he is pretty non-aggressive most of the time. And Winfield missing was a big blow too, but I think most of our DBs, especially the safeties, just aren’t that good. They don’t make plays, or even tackles much of the time. Madieau Williams was completely befuddled by that backup TE, Flavin or whatever his name is. That was really grade school coverage.
by Bodysuit Man on Nov 1, 2009 10:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I noticed Paymah struggling a bit again as well. Seems like he’s an up-and-down kind of player, but that’s why he isn’t the starter normally. Also, Rodgers is simply smart and accurate, which is why we didn’t see any interceptions. Benny Sapp nearly had a good int, but it was a difficult catch to make, much like Winfield’s interception at the Dome.
by Frost on Nov 1, 2009 11:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Sapp is more interested in demolishing people than grabbing the football :)
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Nov 2, 2009 8:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We've had bad luck it seems
The Vikings have batted so many balls in the air and got so many hits as QB’s release it but the balls never fall in our hands. Our only few picks were just plain poorly thrown balls that got hauled in. Not once have we had a deflection or hit as released ball drop into our mits.
Playing the Tampa 2 the idea is to force the opponent to throw lots of short and intermediate passes to gain minimal yards with the hope that something good happens. Usually it works fairly well but we haven’t gotten any of the lucky bounces yet.
One of these games we’ll get us some. I just want to see what our team can do when we don’t spot the other squad points on goofy turnovers. This week we gave them 10 basically on a couple weird fumbles and the week before we gave them 14 on flukes. Other than the Rams game we haven’t had those weird plays go our way. Yet our defense is designed to thrive off them!
Well, take that with a grain of salt because we only play Tampa 2 on less than half the plays.
by Sand0 on Nov 2, 2009 7:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
we weren't putting nearly as much pressure on Rogers in the second half
"We Szekelys have a right to be proud, for in our veins flows the blood of many brave races who fought as the lion fights for lordship. Here, in the whirlpool of European races, the Ugric tribe bore down from Iceland the fighting spirit which Thor and Odin gave them, which their Berserkers displayed to such fell intent on the seaboards of Europe, ay, and of Asia and Africa too, till the peoples thought that the werewolves themselves had come."
-Bram Stoker
by NMVike on Nov 2, 2009 11:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Very entertaining contest
Looks like Favre still has it.
by WarWolf on Nov 1, 2009 10:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I hope ...
you Viqueen fans realize that the main reason for your team being 7-1 is named Brett Favre .. without him, you’d be 3-5 at best!
Sure, you have A.P, but with Rosenfelds or Jackson at QB, teams could just put 8 in the box, and if they stop A.P, they win. Having Favre, forces the opponents to respect the passing game, even though your wrs are pretty average, sure, Harvin can make some big plays, but someone has to throw him the ball first. And there is no way SR or TJ would even attempt some of the throws Favre has made this year, and much less complete them!
Your once waunted run defence is not quite as solid as it used to be, and your pass defence has more holes than swiss cheese.
And the main reason Favre is even willing to embarasse himself by wearing purple, is so that he can get his revenge on Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy. Something he now has.
Packers would have beaten your Viqueens twice this year if not for Favre !
by Jarlsberg on Nov 2, 2009 5:14 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
What a waisted post
Typical Packer fan right there. Have fun planning your draft party in the coming weeks because your not going anywhere near the playoffs.
by JRockItsAllGood on Nov 2, 2009 6:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Besides
If the O-Line wasn’t spending all practice on pass protection they would be able to open holes like they have in the last two years. How else would you explain the fist three games when Favre was getting buried and now the protection is so much better? I would like to see them get off on the running plays like they use to.
by bleedingpurplesince74 on Nov 2, 2009 11:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so original
“Viqueen”. I haven’t heard term in a while from a Packer fan. Favre does make the Vikes a much better team, but i do think i remember the Vikes winningthe division last year with Gus Ferrotte and T-Jack as the QB.
JT
by STLVikesFAN on Nov 2, 2009 6:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah whatever
The Vikings were 10-6 last year without him you big dummy and they beat the Packers once. Face the facts. Packers were 6-10 last year and this season they’ve played 7 games and their only quality win was one that the Bears played god awful in.
The reason we won is that your team sucks and ours doesn’t.
by Sand0 on Nov 2, 2009 7:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
true
The Vikings were 10-6 last year, but that was last year, but your run defense were way better. Also, do you seriously believe Jackson /Rosenfeld would have been able to beat the 9’ers, Ravens or Packers twice ? NO way !
+ the last time the Packers and Vikings played while Favre was still in Green& Gold .. Packers won 34 – 0 !
by Jarlsberg on Nov 2, 2009 2:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You want to compare...
the Vikings QB position with last years. Then dismiss last years defense and count this years. I’ve got news for you, last year was last year and this year is this year. If you want to learn to live with losing, try watching the Timberwolves for 19 of the last twenty years. I did and I can accept it when my team loses.
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
by cryhavoc on Nov 2, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Can I borrow your crystal ball sometime
your powers of prediction rival the best. Lots of conditionals here, which really don’t mean anything in the end, do they? Your beloved Packers were swept this year by a superior Vikings team. So get over it.
by uncle rico on Nov 2, 2009 10:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I swear to God, I wish anyone who posts such immature and ignorant posts would be banned. People like this bring nothing to the table and add even less to the discussion. How about saying, “you know what…..you are my competition but it was a great game”? And as much as it pains me to say this, but yeah Favre does look like he is a perfect situation right now. I would be much happier if he was throwing interceptions, but he’s not. He is playing at such I high level that it add to my respect for the man. I am optimistic about the Packers future, but this year the Vikings are clearly better. But it was great watching that 3rd and 4th quarter.
by Sequoia on Nov 2, 2009 11:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
a lot of if's there buddy from cheeseland
if this or if that how about you worry about how your qb can ever stay on his own two feet.maybe he wouldn’t be limping to the sidelines and you guys got no pressure.that’s where it starts idiot in the trenches at the line who is bigger and better will win and did.
by clinton p on Nov 2, 2009 1:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Again?
You used one period, at least you’re getting a little better. Go back to school and learn how to write so that your point might actually count. No one reads your garbage.
by cdubs on Nov 2, 2009 4:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t like your apostrophe.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Nov 2, 2009 5:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jarlberg, you sound like a poor loser!
Favre isn’t the reason for the Packers only scoring 3 points in the 1st half, that was the Vikings defense that caused that. You’re just lucky the Vikings D fell asleep for awhile in the 3rd quarter, otherwise the Pack never would have had any chance at all.
Anybody who knows football knows that the Vikings only needed a solid QB to be successful this year. The Vikings offense and defense is stacked with talent. They just needed a solid guy like Favre steer the ship.
Oh’ BTW, have fun fighting for that Wild Card. :)
by chaosg on Nov 2, 2009 6:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Clearly a sour grapes post by Jarlsberg
Unfortunately we’re bound to see some of these whiny posts in here – it’s really not easy losing a game to a bitter rival. That doesn’t mean we can’t be a bit more civil (or intelligent) in our posts to each other, though. It’s unfortunate that Jarlsberg has such a perfect Viking name. LOL
The reality, which most Green Bay fans have realized by now, is that we do have a better team than the Packers this year. No bones about it. Doesn’t mean that Green Bay can’t make the Wild-card spot and/or still do some damage but it’s going to be a tough uphill climb for them going forward. Calling the fans of the team that beat you insulting names doesn’t really make any of us want to listen to your pathetic excuses.
Regardless of who are QB is (why it would matter is beyond me) we scored 38 points on the supposedly 3rd Best (using the term loosely here, for obvious reasons) defense on THEIR home field isn’t something I’d want to get lippy about on an opposing fan blog.
But who are we kidding – he got some lame, snarky remarks in then probably left with his tail between his legs. I doubt he returns to defend his annoying remarks.
Packers played a good game but just came up short. It happens – get over it. Sheesh!
by Wytefang on Nov 2, 2009 7:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Harvin
played a great game as both receiver and returner. But, come on – game ball is Favre’s – 4 TD to 4 different receivers, 0 INT. Put the others in his place, Vikes lose, Percy or not .Look around the major football sites – they think so, too. I think Favre would pass it on to his O’line for keeping him clean yet again – they were excellent.
by jshep on Nov 2, 2009 5:39 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not Frazier's fault whatsoever
Frazier called very few blitzes in the first half. Coverage was superb and the pass rush was great considering we were only rushing 4.
In the second half we continued with what was working. But our pass rushers were a bit gassed since Green Bay throws on every down it seems. Then late in the game Frazier brought out some pretty hefty blitzes to seal the deal.
I just don’t agree that Frazier “took his foot off the gas”. He just continued to call our defense the way we pretty much play it every week. The players are to blame for the great first half and the lousy second half. Fortunately our offense played two great halves and their defense has stunk all year other than when they play chump bait.
Really the story from this game was the fact that Rodgers was melting under the pressure in the first half. Absolutely got to him. Rodgers struggles in big moments immensely and I love that because he’s going to be their QB for a while.
by Sand0 on Nov 2, 2009 7:25 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I've been impressed at how well the secondary has done
considering Toine is out. The D looked like they were much better prepared for screens.
by Salty on Nov 2, 2009 8:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
agree for the most part
Part of it, even though we dont like to admit it, is that the Packers made adjustments at the half. That’s what any coach worth his weight is supposed to do. Although you made a good point of the number of passing attempts in the second half, we were rotating enough that they shouldn’t have been gassed. If they were gassed, its their own fault and you have to commend GB for exploiting it. I think a problem is that some of our guys in the front seven must not have confidence in the DB’s. Those plays that #41 scored looked like broken coverage. The only time you have broken coverage is when the call didnt come in in-time or you have guys playing out of position because they are trying to do too much. Greenway’s play on the goalline is a perfect example, he got caught between playing his zone and helping.
"We Szekelys have a right to be proud, for in our veins flows the blood of many brave races who fought as the lion fights for lordship. Here, in the whirlpool of European races, the Ugric tribe bore down from Iceland the fighting spirit which Thor and Odin gave them, which their Berserkers displayed to such fell intent on the seaboards of Europe, ay, and of Asia and Africa too, till the peoples thought that the werewolves themselves had come."
-Bram Stoker
by NMVike on Nov 2, 2009 12:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
one side note
Can anyone believe that the Colts had to use a trick play to beat the 49ers?
by Salty on Nov 2, 2009 8:30 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
My points
- Couldn’t agree more about the defense in the second half. Can someone write an article breaking down exactly what we’re doing differently after a big lead? Like the coverage schemes, the pressure from the corners, blitz packages, etc? Seriously, this has to change, a good team like New Orleans or Philly will beat us in these situations.
- Percy has to be Rookie of the Year, no question. I know QB’s usually get it, but Percy has been way too good and just like they said when they drafted him, he has a very high football IQ, I think he’s adjusted better than any rookie to the NFL level.
- I would say Sidney Rice is more of a “Randy Moss” type player with not only his build, but his great hands, his verticle, and his playmaking ability. He’s not as good as Moss, but he can have similar impact.
- Percy Harvin is more like a Steve Smith. He’s taller, but the guy is quick AND fast, so you can get him the ball in short passes and he can make a play by burning the defender or just breaking the tackles. He’s a stud nonetheless
- What a dagger for the packer fans. All the posts about picking off brett favre and how he’ll play bad football “eventually”. I sound like a broken record, but this is a different system and favre just fits well in it, I don’t see him having many bad games, if any this season.
- Emotion: again, all packer fans were saying Favre’s emotions will take him over in this game, but I had to say it was just about everyone else’s emotions that were apparant. Jolly headbutting Chester for the drive sustaining penalty was just stupid, and Ray Edwards and Shiancoe couldn’t keep their yaps shut as I saw them in a few scuffles. This was a big game not just for favre, but for the NFC North, everyone was going at it, even the fans in the stands.
- Penalties on the QB: this is getting outrageous. It’s not just this game either, I’ve seen it in other games, but if you watch the roughing the passer call called against ray edwards when tackling Aaron Rodgers, you can see that this “protecting the QB” nonsense is getting way out of hand. My take: it’s football, QB’s know this, they are being compensated in the millions for this. I think it’s fair they take hits on a regular basis if their line can’t protect them. Blantant hits are definitely not acceptable well after the play, like on any player, but there shouldn’t be separate rules for protecting the QB’s which just makes some calls ridiculous, as a fan it angers me and is just plain stupid.
by cdubs on Nov 2, 2009 8:53 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
What pissed me off is
That earlier in the game Kampman hit Favre and threw him to the ground after the ball was gone, but it wasnt called. If the refs are going to make those types of calls, then they better be more consistent.
"We Szekelys have a right to be proud, for in our veins flows the blood of many brave races who fought as the lion fights for lordship. Here, in the whirlpool of European races, the Ugric tribe bore down from Iceland the fighting spirit which Thor and Odin gave them, which their Berserkers displayed to such fell intent on the seaboards of Europe, ay, and of Asia and Africa too, till the peoples thought that the werewolves themselves had come."
-Bram Stoker
by NMVike on Nov 2, 2009 9:34 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
i was very happy with the game.....
i’m actually happy the pack kinda made a game out of it. it definitely made the TD’s at the end of the game sweeter and the beer was magnificent!!! good game packer fans and the class is appreciated!!!! And my high school band teacher owes me that case of diet mountain dew!!!! ;)
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by IABerserker1 on Nov 2, 2009 9:44 AM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather sleep at night
I could sleep better knowing we can put the dagger in meteocre teams in like the packers after the 1st half. This comeback BS is really annoying, it’s so blatantly stupid, and even the announcers can’t believe that we consistently allow teams back into games. Something has to change. Unfortunately it won’t unless something catastrophic happens, like missing/losing in the playoffs.
by cdubs on Nov 2, 2009 11:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Going into the bye week...
Hell has cooled 244 degrees, with the Packers generating 38 degrees of chill this week.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Nov 2, 2009 12:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
There are some nice photos over at the JSonline website
Isn’t this a face mask? Bad game for the zebras if you ask me.
This one really needs a caption contest. What is Jared saying?
by Salty on Nov 2, 2009 12:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Jared says...
Get your hand off my junk, I’m still sackin yur ass.
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
by cryhavoc on Nov 2, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jred Says,
you sure do got a pretty mouth!!!
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by IABerserker1 on Nov 2, 2009 4:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
re-posting my ode to percy from the day after the draft. glad to see everyone has come around. i’ve enjoyed checking in with y’all these past few months.
by Natty Bumppo on Nov 2, 2009 3:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Nice game
YOu guys outplayed my packers and deserved that win. Favre was pristine (damnit) and we go NO pressure on him all day. It was almost ridiculous. Glad the Packrs at least made it a game so it was interesting but really it was all Vikings in just about every aspect. Hopefully we’ll get another shot at you in the playoffs…we’ll see if Favre is still around then! haha
by TrevorR on Nov 2, 2009 3:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for having some class
but don’t hold your breath on the playoffs chance.
by cdubs on Nov 2, 2009 4:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My 2 cents
Our DB’s need to go back & retake Tackling 101 and Angles 101. Frazier needs to emphasize better coverage responsibility between the CB & Safety. The assignment switch is way too late. The corners play too soft & safeties play 10-15 yards too deep. This leads to bad angles & missed tackles. They need to be more proactive and aggressive.
- Payhmah isn’t a NFL CB period. He can’t cover, isn’t good in run support & he is plain & simple a LIABILITY! #23 CG plays too soft & continues to give WRs a 10-12 yd cushion. His aggressiveness from last yr is non-existant. In fact, it seems like he strays from contact/tackle. #25 TyJ diagnosis a play too slow & takes bad angles. #20 MW seems to always get there a sec to late & puts his head down when trying to tckl instead of wrapping up. Our LB’s do good vs the run but really need to work on pass recog. & covering TE & RBs better. Lebers our best coverage lb’er but he’s out in passing downs. He’s our most sound tackler IMO.EJ’s our best blitzer & run stopper but struggles vs the pass. CG #52 is ok in both areas but needs to improve in tackling & be more agg. in coverage.
If Frazier can address the above during the bye week we should be better in 4th Q’s.
SKOL! Dawgs
by WarriorViking on Nov 2, 2009 5:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

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