Viking Fans Apparently Stuffing the Ballot Box
For the past few years, fan voting has accounted for 1/3 of the balloting for the NFL Pro Bowl, and you can go to NFL.com in order to vote for your favorite players (read: Vikings) to play in this year's exhibition. However, according to the folks at Viking Update, a lot of your fellow Vikings fans are way ahead of you on that front.
Right now, members of the Minnesota Vikings are leading at TEN DIFFERENT POSITIONS on the NFC's Pro Bowl ballot. Ten, I say. That's a lot.
As it stands now, Adrian Peterson is the #3 overall vote getter, and Brett Favre is (appropriately enough) the #4 overall vote getter. Unfortunately, since Drew Brees of the New Orleans Saints has the most overall votes, that means that Favre is only second among NFC quarterbacks.
Who are some of the other Vikings that are leading at their positions? Well, let's take a look. . .
- John Sullivan is the leading vote getter at center
- Bryant McKinnie is the leader among offensive tackles (Phil Loadholt is fourth)
- Steve Hutchinson has more votes than any other guard
- Naufahu Tahi is the leader at fullback. . .and if you're currently drinking anything, I apologize for making it shoot out of your nose. But that statement is true.
- Jared Allen is the pace setter among NFC defensive ends (almost twice as many as second place Julius Peppers)
- Pat Williams and Kevin Williams are the top two defensive tackles in the NFC
- Percy Harvin is leading all NFC kick returners in the voting thus far
- Ryan Longwell is the top NFC kicker thus far
- And Heath Farwell is the top in the NFC special teams category
Four Vikings hold down the #2 spot at their positions as well. Those three are punter Chris Kluwe, cornerback Antoine Winfield, outside linebacker Chad Greenway, and guard Anthony Herrera.
Now, will all these Minnesota players make the Pro Bowl? Certainly not. Heck, hopefully we won't see any of them in the Pro Bowl this year. After all, the NFL has changed the schedule so that the Pro Bowl will be played the weekend before the Super Bowl, not the weekend after as it has been for all these years. Hopefully our guys will have more important things to worry about.
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Harvin over Rice
This article says that Harvin has gotten more votes as a receiver than Rice. Hopefully after this last weekend, that changes in a hurry.
Glad to see the recognition (also shocked quite frankly, but glad nonetheless). But again, hopefully none of this matters when the Pro Bowl is played because our boys will be watching from home waiting for their chance at a ring.
Soooooooo Gonzo
if this stands as it is right now. Will the NFL take any action?
I doubt it, but I’m a firm believer in if you deserve it you get it. Leading to my next point
Tahi, Sullivan, Herrara are NOT playing at a 1st place pro-bowl level, quite frankly neither is Phat Pat. That DT from the Cowgirls should be 2nd to K-Dub.
All the other guys I can actually see playing at that level. But you know when you see
Tahi (who must be leading the league in 2 yd dump offs)
Herrara- A guy whos just a role player
Sullivan- Where the heck [see Gonzo im lightning up on the swearing ;)] to start, he’s basically a rookie who should not be a Pro-bowler anytime soon.
This is PLAIN AND SIMPLE, OBVIOUSLY, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT fans just voting for Vikings. Now dont get me wrong I’m not saying that these guys suck, they’re actually very important pieces to our Superbowl (Fingers crossed with rabbits foot in hand and four-leaf clover around neck) Run. Im not saying that it’s wrong to vote for Vikings only either, but when there is guys that deserve it more than the guys listed above they have to go.
Also Rice is having an amazing year yet he’s behind Miles Who quite possibly might be the most overrated player ever Austin and Marques Colston, you got to wonder what is going on here.
Now like you said the fans only acount for 1/3 of the vote so the guys that deserve will still end up going but I’m a young person with an old-school mentality and I just believe if you deserve to something you get it.
Well thats my perspective on it.
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Nov 17, 2009 8:39 PM CST reply actions
The first sentence about the NFL taking action was a joke on the Cincinatti Reds btw
Purple Haze is the worlds greatest Natural Resource.
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Nov 17, 2009 8:49 PM CST up reply actions
When I first read this topic,
I thought you were talking about the Fox Sports poll.
When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.
Corollary: When people are visiting your house and behaving themselves, them being a fan of a different team is NOT a reason for you to piss in their beer.
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No Shiancoe?
Bullshit, vote for him people! And nothings wrong with voting for Vikings because our team is awesome all the way around!
Why Do People Question The Vikings' Status?
by UnBannedVikingholic on Nov 17, 2009 9:14 PM CST reply actions
And no Sideny Rice?
WTF!
Why Do People Question The Vikings' Status?
by UnBannedVikingholic on Nov 17, 2009 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
Thats Bullshit
That I can’t say bullshit anymore!
Why Do People Question The Vikings' Status?
by UnBannedVikingholic on Nov 17, 2009 11:49 PM CST up reply actions
I'm guessing you missed the memo.
http://www.dailynorseman.com/2009/11/15/1158901/a-humble-request-from-the-guy-in
When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.
Corollary: When people are visiting your house and behaving themselves, them being a fan of a different team is NOT a reason for you to piss in their beer.
Brought to you by Carl's Jr.
by Robert Rence on Nov 18, 2009 7:04 AM CST up reply actions
Fan numbers up?
We never used to have enough Viking fans to stuff a turkey. Now we got enough to build a new stadium. Thanks Brett.
I took off 2 weeks........................................
and spent morning, noon, and night voting for all of the Vikings.
I take full credit.
I'm With YOU!
Why Do People Question The Vikings' Status?
by UnBannedVikingholic on Nov 17, 2009 11:48 PM CST up reply actions
Well done
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Nov 18, 2009 7:28 AM CST up reply actions
I was just about to post this on the boards actually. Lets get ALL of our vikings voted to the pro bowl this year. Keep stuffing those ballots but like it was said before hopefully none of them actually play. SKOL PURPLE!
To vote strickly Viking is to dishonor the game itself. This is supposed to be a honor for the worthy players, not a popularity contest amoung the fanbases. And if you truely do want it to become a popularity contest, good luck beating out the fans in New York, Dallas, and Chicago who outnumber us 10-1.
Pro-Bowl before the Super-Bowl
That makes a huge difference with those two super-bowl teams players for fear of pre super-bowl injuriers. I think this will hurt both games (Pro-Bowl and the Super-Bowl) in the end. This begs the question, who the heck is in charge here? And what were they thinking?
+1
Makes no sense to me either…..the best teams playing in the SB are bound to have many players on the pro bowl teams, no? They will not play in the pro-bowl game I bet…Takes away from the pro-bowl for sure? Go figure…..
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* Read Teddy Roosevelt's "Man in the Arena" if you need further explanation...
by vikingfanfrom afar on Nov 18, 2009 5:58 AM CST up reply actions
odd format
Obviously both Super Bowl teams will have no players in the pro bowl and being a week after the NFC/AFC championship games, a lot of players on those losing teams may skip out too. You could see a lot of alternates in this game. maybe it will help Packer Fans get Rodgers in the game!
JT
That's ridiculous!
I can’t believe they’d do that to the Super Bowl teams, everyone else gets a break except for the top players. And it definitely increases the chances of injury in both the Pro Bowl and the Super Bowl.
I wonder, can players decline to show up for the Pro Bowl?
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
I think they can.....
due to an injury or illness. I can’t believe Goodell did this. If our vikes do make the S.B., I would hope that none of them plays in the P.B.
It really makes you wonder WTH Goodell is thinking...
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
Think I'll vote for the oppostions players
To keep our players healthy for the big dance. We need a win this SB thing this time. I’m to old to wait another 34 years.
Regarding Super Bowl Players
A “League Source” stated in the original article that all players voted to the Pro Bowl that are on teams participating in the Super Bowl will be “announced, but will not play.” This means that there will be an inordinate amount of people making the Pro Bowl, because as is obvious, people are slamming the votes with Vikes. Guaranteed, if El Sid keeps it up, he WILL make it as a WR, even if silly fans aren’t voting for him. He’ll have the yardage to make it on the votes of the players and coaches.
meant to add....
The players that are in the SB will have replacements voted in. So the reason there will be copious Pro Bowl players in this new iteration is that now the backups will have to have backups, even more than the usual “declining to play” backups.
Are You the only one
that read the whole article? This has been in the works for two years. They are trying to add interest to the Pro Bowl by scheduling it before the Super Bowl in the same location. It turns the whole affair into a two week party. Sorry Honolulu. Maybe it will work, maybe not. Still experimental at this point, but Honolulu did get another Pro Bowl a few years out. Anyone who still wonders how this works return to top and start over.
by BigSkyViking on Nov 18, 2009 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
There is no way in hades
That any members of the super bowl qualifing teams will participate in the Pro Bowl under this format! That is just ludacris tto think otherwise. So vote on Viking fans, while the players may not play in the game, they’ll still be credited with being a pro bowl selection either way.
By the way Favre, AD, Harvin, Allen, Big Kevin, Winfield, Longwell, and Hutch all are very deserving of being voted in as a starter.
Greenway, McKinnie, Loadholt, Rice, and Big Pat are very deserving of being voted as reserves.
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-Bram Stoker
This is really interesting and everything,
but aren’t we playing another game this Sunday or something? Anybody planning to post anything on that subject eventually?
by Migrant lurker on Nov 18, 2009 12:52 PM CST reply actions
Maybe they'll have 9+ Pro Bowlers again
McKinnie and Greenway have probably deserved to go at least once in previous seasons.
Winfield probably won’t make the cut after he misses time and/or plays with less effectiveness due to injury.
I’m not worried about Tahi, Herrera, Sullivan…making the PB roster.
On the other hand, where is Favre? Surely he deserves consideration. He was an all-star last year, after all.
I don’t know if they eventually had more in a year, but I recall the 1989 Vikings sending 9 players to the Pro Bowl.
Correction
10 PBers in 1998
9 PBers in 1988
8 PBers in 1989 (unless someone like Studwell made it as a reserve)
If # of PBers are considered the talent level of the team, Tice looks pretty good for leading a 1 PBer team (a KR who had trouble staying sober enough to play, at that) to a winning record and winning a playoff game the previous year with only 3 PBers. Childress has always had a fair number of PBers: 4 in 2006; 6 in 2007 and 2008.
Would you really want Vikings players in the Pro Bowl?
If our hope is of making and winning the Super Bowl, I wouldn’t want Vikings players to play the week before in a meaningless game.
Can they refuse to participate?
Please check out my post
Entitled “Regarding Super Bowl Players.” Many Pro Bowlers opt out every year anyway due to many different reasons, mostly because they’re nursing injuries.
Idiocy
How can decreasing the number of actual pro bowl players who play in the pro bowl game increase the interest in the game? Amazing logic.
At least in the old format it was like a wheening off of football, like real football but not really. It prevented full blown withdrawl symptoms due to season’s end.
Where does this compulsion to change everything come from. Maybe we should label it " The Lemming Syndrome" and put them on meds.
Can you hear the Gjallarhorn a blastin???
That is the defensive lines new nickname…. just announced ……
In my room…. when you hear the horn, you know they are present……….
S K O L
LMAO
You better make a short name cause old man QB there will split after the years over. You should know this folks (look at his past) I like TEAM players and not the ones that do it all for themselves (Farve). I lost all my respect for that old guy when he kept stringing along Green Bay every year..i quit-idon’t quit-i quit-i don’t quit. We are all so tired of him , it’s coming out of our ears now. So , make his nick name , TEAM QUITER cause every year he is off to another team ! LOL , next year he may just be playing for the Bears or Detroit or who knows… GO SAINTS GO …WHO DAT WHO DAT

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