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VIkings Draft Day Decision. Select- Move Up, Move Down

The Vikings have three choices on draft Day. Move Up- Stay Put- Move Down

For the purposes of this poll you must assume the Vikings management knows what they are doing and scouts the talent well.  I think the past three years has proven their worth in this regard.  The only question mark is selecting a Quarterback. Mr.Spielman has Never picked a winning QB in all his time and the TJ selection of Coach Childress has not been successful thus far.

 

Analysis of the cost of each selection after the jump.

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  1. To move up in the draft is expensive.  Lets assume that one of the College Q.Bs is evaluated as the Vikes Franchise Face of the Future by the Vikings staff.  Cleveland needs to build and might want to trade.  What would it cost.  If you look at the 2004 Manning trade and the 2009 Cutler trade I think it fair to say it will cost the Vikes at least a first and a second round pick for the next two drafts.  This also comports with the draft value chart used by all the NFL teams.           Now players can be thrown in the mix but the point is that it is expensive to move up to a top selection.
  2. Stay Put.  The Vikes can use there existing draft picks to bolster an already good team.  But remember they will pick late first round so they only get one chance in the first 60 or so selections.
  3. Move Down.  Its possible that some team will covet a player still available at #30. If so that pick can be traded for a high 2nd and 4th round pick according to the draft chart. 

It might be good to remember that the Vikes should get a couple extra 5th round picks this year as compensatory picks.  Those have yet to be decided.  They also can not be traded.

I'm looking forward to your vote

Poll
What should the Vikings do on draft day
Move Up if a Franchise Q.B is available
21 votes
Select best player available with their choice
46 votes
Move Down and pick up an extra pick
5 votes

72 votes | Poll has closed

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I really don’t think it will cost 2 first round and 2 second round picks to move up in the draft. Even the examples you use aren’t the same situation for the Vikings. The Bears gave up what they did for a QB that was considered established as a franchise QB in the NFL. Not a prospect that could one day be a franchise QB. The Manning/Rivers trade is unique on its own too. The teams simply traded 1st round picks and the Giants gave the Chargers a 2004 3rd rounder and a 1st and 5th in 2005. So all the Giants really gave up was a 3rd round pick and future 1st and 5th rounders which is still a lot less than 2 1sts and 2 2nds.
I think a better example would be what the Ravens gave up to move into the middle of the first to grab the QB they liked in 2008. From the 26th spot the Ravens switch spots with Houston at 18 for only a 3rd rounder and 6th rounder. Heck, just last year the Jets moved from 17th to 5th for a switch of first rounders, one second rounder and a 3 backup players. I think the Vikings could easily move up without giving up future picks and without many immediate needs currently going into the draft they could package a few from this year and move up.

by Josh_D on Nov 22, 2009 12:27 PM CST reply actions  

Not true

In actuality the Manning trade is more typical than most believe. It is quite in line with the value chart. It’s not a matter of moving up like the Ravens did to a 17th round pick (A pick the Vikings traded away by the way) but rather what does it cost to move up to an extremely high draft choice. The Giants could have traded down to the 7th pick of Detroit (this was offered), picked up a draft choice, and ended up with Big Ben Roethlisberger. The question is should the Vikes move up to a high draft choice to grab the Q.B. of the future. Your scenario assumes that the Vikes believe that their scouts have picked a #1 quality quarterback in the middle of the draft. I’m O.K. with that kind of trade and it would be cheaper. I’m simply assuming that they have to trade to a top 4 or 5 spot to get the real deal.

by lifelongvike on Nov 22, 2009 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I wasn’t implying any kind of trade, but if you look at more recent trades than 2004 and look at the draft value chart you can see it doesn’t take 2 1st round picks and 2 2nd round picks to even into the top ten picks. Again, just this last year, the Jets went from 17th to 5th overall with one second round pick and 3 players (even if you combined the 3 players into one pick, they wouldn’t even be worth a 2nd rounder). So if a middle 2nd round pick and 3 marginal players can move you from 17th overall to 5th overall, you don’t need 2 1st and 2 2nds to do so.
Now look at the value chart again. If the season ended today the Vikings would have the 30th overall (Saints and Colts would have 31 and 32 since they are undefeated) which is worth 620 points, if you combine that with a 3rd rounder (124) and a future 1st (we’ll keep the 620 for point scale) you get 1364 points which gets you into the top ten and you are still only giving up a 3rd rounder and future 1st (you still get to use a first round pick that year). It is not as heavy a ransom to move up in the draft as most people assume. Even in the Manning trade that you use, only a 3rd and future 1st/5th rounders were used which is no where near 2 1sts and 2 2nds.

by Josh_D on Nov 23, 2009 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I think you are overlooking something.

I get where your coming from and don’t disagree with your chart evaluation. However, your computations only work if we want the 10th round pick. I was assuming we need Cleveland’s #4 pick to get the best Quarterback to fit our system. Obviously if our scouts can find the right guy at a lower price then we should move now not later.

But the Manning trade was expensive. They traded a #4 pick for the #1 pick. On top of the trade they gave next years #4 pick in the first (1800 points), this years #4 pick in the third round (250points) , plus next years 5th ( 41 points). They gave up 2091 points to move up from #4(1800 points) to #1( 3000) points. It was only a good trade if you can’t live without Manning. I still think they should have taken the deal with Detroit. Move from #4 to #7. Get a draft pick and they would have gotten Roeslisberger. Obviously they felt Manning was a whole lot better than Big Ben. Its a matter of Scouting.

Anyway I still say if we want a top 5 pick we will pay two #1’s and two #2’s. If we can do better horsetrading than that then go get em.

by lifelongvike on Nov 23, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

None of the above

           Yes, we should move up, no not a QB.If Favre;s season continues as it has so far, I have no doubt that Bret WILL return with enthusiasm for next year. This allows another year for TJ to develope.
            We have gone after lockdown players in key positions the last few years. Hutch, Alan, Peterson et al. The area that falls a bit below the rest is the secondary and to a lesser extent, linebacking.
            The one player who will be availiable in the draft stayed for his senior year in the hopes of a national championship even though he would have been a to ten draft pick last year. This speaks volumes that he is a PLAYER, not a pretender.
             I refer to, of course, Taylor Mays of USC.
Mays is 6’ 3" weighs 230 and boasts 4.2 speed in the 40. He can play linebacker or safety and is a NASTY hitting machine. More importantly, he would become the stud behind our outstanding front four. He actually hits tougher than Winfield and can rack up the picks like Sharper. He is probably as close to a sure thing to make it in the NFL as I’ve seen in a while.
              The only fly in the oat meal is the move up may be too high if we keep on the way we have and end up 31 or 32 in the draft.
               The steal at QB could be Jake locker out of Washington. The kid has paid his dues on a series of lousy teams and is, in my opinion, right up there as one of the best out there

by nwtrucker on Nov 22, 2009 5:41 PM CST reply actions  

The steal at QB could be Jake locker out of Washington. The kid has paid his dues on a series of lousy teams and is, in my opinion, right up there as one of the best out there

+1

I’m definitely on the Locker bandwagon. I’d love to see him as the future of the franchise.

If you can't laugh at yourself... Who can you laugh at?
The Packers, that’s who.
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by TheViking83 on Nov 22, 2009 11:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Count me out on the Locker Bandwagon

I will never back the drafting of a college QB who can’t hit on over 60% of his passes. He has bust written all over him.

by TheEvilProfessor on Nov 23, 2009 9:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Good thing no one ever gave Jay Culter (56.5%), Brett Farve (53.2%), or Donovan McNabb (58%) a chance in the NFL. Those guys couldn’t complete over 60% of their passes either.

by Josh_D on Nov 23, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions  

2010 will be a rich and deep draft

The rookie wage scale will be changing and lots of juniors will declare hoping to become a top-15 pick with the money that comes with it.

There is a lot of talent available in this draft at every position. The main thing will be to draft 7 excellent players. Moving will not be necessary.

by medicineball on Nov 22, 2009 6:11 PM CST reply actions  

Not enough quality Q.B.s available

I see three Q.Bs that will go in the top 15. Claussen, Locker, and Bradford. I’m assuming the Vikes have no shot at any of them. Of these I think Claussen is the only one that will get a Ryan or Stafford type rating. All others available have been rated with weak arm strength. I think Brett Farve has shown that a strong arm is necessary to run this offense.

If we don’t move up ( as the poll suggests) then we can take a chance on a late round pick (4th or 5th) to try and get a project like Mallet.

I repeat. We will know the Vikings plan when we see if they resign Travaris. Right now he looks as good as any late round pick I see out there.

by lifelongvike on Nov 23, 2009 9:56 AM CST reply actions  

No more 'projects'

If we’re looking at picking up a ‘project’ QB, then we might as well hold on to T-Jack, he’s at least a serviceable back-up, something that a new ‘project’ will not be.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Nov 23, 2009 7:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Favre return

I believe Favre plays because he likes it, not because he has to or because he is trying to prove anyone wrong (TT). For that reason, I think there is no chance he walks away after this season.

As for draft picks, I would like to see TJ develop more next year and then use a pick, or picks to move up, in the 2011 draft to select Andrew Luck the Stanford QB. That guy is the reason Stanford is where they are. He is a smart QB playing at a brainiac school—and that is the intangible that makes great QBs Favre, Manning, Brady, etc…

by PurpleJesus on Nov 23, 2009 10:17 AM CST reply actions  

Not a very workable solution

First I agree with you that Luck might be a great Quarterback. But so does everyone else so assume he will be a top 5 selection. If the Vikes have a late round pick it will cost them two #1 picks and probably two #2 picks. This is in accordance with the team value charts used in the NFL.
Under your plan we have to sign TJ to a new contract this March ( his is up). If they do this it will be with the intention (I assume) that he will be the starter after Bretts tenure. For the Vikings to continue to dominating defensively and continue to expand offensively they probably will not give up two years of draft picks to get a Q.B. That type of plan really hasn’t helped Chicago. How are they going to build a line now that they have fewer draft picks?

 If they don’t sign Travaris they are probably planning to draft a Q.B. with their late round pick this year.
  All of this will be contingent on whether or not the Vikings scouting department can find the Face of the Future as a gem in the rough with a late round pick.

by lifelongvike on Nov 23, 2009 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

It could be if played properly

Yes, I do see us resigning TJack but not at a price that makes him a guaranteed starter when Favre moves on. Heck we are paying Rosepetals $3M a year and he isn’t even active for most games. I can see us trading Rosenfels to some team as a backup/starter and possibly picking up a 4th or 5th Rd pick or something.

As for Andrew Luck, I do agree he is going to be tough to get however we do have a draft coming up that can allow us to acquire picks to get something done in 2011. We could likely easily trade our late Round # 1 this year to acquire a second Round # 1 pick next year. And to do so doesn’t mean moving down all that far to acquire it. Look at the Dallas/Cleveland trade a couple of years ago that Cleveland used to select Brady Quinn.

In any event, having (2) 1st round picks in 2011 (let’s assume one around pick # 30 and another around pick # 22?) would give us the flexibility to move up into the top 10 picks. I think there is a chance that Luck could fall that far.

by PurpleJesus on Nov 23, 2009 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Packer clone???

We’d be just like the Packers. We’d have a very high priced future player riding the bench. Could we afford that and keep up our Defensive and Offensive prowess.

Dont forget we will be resigning a few players by then. AP, Sidney, Shaincoe and a few more. The year after that would be renewing Percy, Hutchinson and Loadholt. And of course we would need to find the next Phat Pat, I know we have Kennedy and Guion but would we keep them and pay them or let one of them go?

Its hard to have millions riding the bench, that’s why TT made the call and let Brett go. Their only mistake (imho) was in being the rich 2-timing boyfriend. They told BF that they were going to date AR for awhile but they would pay him to stay on the side in case it didn’t work.

by midnightwonder on Nov 23, 2009 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Are you sure?
We could likely easily trade our late Round # 1 this year to acquire a second Round # 1 pick next year.

Lets say our draft pick this year is #27. Every team knows next years pick will be no higher. Yet you think someone will give us a first round pick next year that’s higher? No team with a middle round pick would make that trade and few teams below us will be available to do that. The # 28 pick is worth 660 points. The 33rd pick is worth 560 points. The difference is only a middle pick in the 4th round.

I agree that a #30 and a #22 would get us the #9 pick but I don’t see how your going to get the #22. I will say this. If some team would make that trade with us then we should follow your advice and jump on it.

Unfortunately, being a consistently good team means having to do well picking late in the draft or paying dearly to move up.

by lifelongvike on Nov 23, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Let's say....

for example… a middle of the road team (someone around # 17 and then #49) – let’s use the Jets – want to move up from their second round pick # 49 to pick # 30 (let’s say that’s our pick). To move up 19 spots, we ask for their # 1 next year and their # 2 this year (#49), presumably a mid to upper 1st round pick (assuming they improve) around # 22.

I also gave you an example already when Cleveland traded their 2nd round pick and a # 1 to Dallas for the # 22 pick in the 1st round also to get Brady Quinn.

by PurpleJesus on Nov 23, 2009 5:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Not even close

TJack isn’t going to get more than Rosenfels is getting now. If he demands that much we will let him walk in my opinion, especially if we still have Rosenfels.

The $ riding the bench is the reason I said we need to get rid of one of the two backups if Favre stays. We will also need to walk away from Phat Pat unless he renegotiates a lower contract because as you say, we can’t keep paying $ without cutting some….Also, I could see us letting Madeiu go to free up some more money. He hasn’t quite panned out as planned and we have quite a few million $ tied up there.

Lastly, I do think if Favre wants to stay he will probably pass on the $2M raise to allow some flexibility to sign other players. Especially if we don’t win it all this year.

by PurpleJesus on Nov 23, 2009 12:25 PM CST reply actions  

We need three Q.B.s

I don’t mind having three Q.B.s. Look at Pittsburg. Yesterday they have three and today they are down to an untested third string starting Q.B.

The question isn’t how much T-Jack is worth. Its what to do for the future. The Vikes were pretty smart. If Farve leaves,gets hurt, retires after this year then we have Sage for a year. If Tjack develops we can sign him as the future. If Tjack isn’t a starter then we can draft/free agency a Sage replacement. If the coaches believe he is a starter then we have to pay him. If he is a starter other teams will know this and someone will pay him to be on their team. The burning question is who is the long term future.

by lifelongvike on Nov 23, 2009 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Freeing up cap space

Madieu Williams, and I know some will disagree, but I think we’d do well to get a replacement for Bernard Berrian as well. If Chester doesn’t get resigned, that should be a good bit of cap space.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Nov 23, 2009 7:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Have to disagree

Well, I respect your view, I just have to disagree. Chester Taylor might come back, and he’s great. Berrian is a very good wide receiver that provides veteran leadership. He has been fighting off two injured hamstrings this year, and still is producing. Our only other veteran receiver right now is Greg Lewis. Madieu is playing better. Let’s see how our defense is playing as we go along. It’s way too early to start plotting the future of personnel moves.

by medicineball on Nov 23, 2009 11:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, here's my thinking on why

I love having CT on the team, and I think the Vikings should resign him if at all possible and reasonable. I was just saying IF he doesn’t get resigned, that clears some cap space :)

On Berrian, I want him gone. He was signed to be a #1 WR, the speedster, and he was paid an awful lot of money for it. Instead he’s more like a #3 behind Rice and Harvin, he’s not outrunning many secondaries because he’s not that fast, and he has a huge contract that throws the other WR contracts out of wack and sucks up a lot of cap space. And the man is fragile, very injury-prone, which limits his impact and play-time. I’ll stand on my recommendation to trade him off and acquire a true speedster to replace him (assuming Jaymar Johnson doesn’t step up).

Madieu looked good in the last half of last season, but this year he’s been marginal at best. I’d give him the rest of the year to prove himself worth keeping, but really, you want to see something to justify the move.

Lewis had that one phenomenal catch against SF, but his playing time since has been pretty limited. Was it a flash in the pan, or something he’s capable of doing on a regular basis? You can’t have too many solid red-zone receivers :)

In any case, I wouldn’t make any changes until after the entire season was done, hopefully that would mean some time in March :))

Madi

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Nov 24, 2009 10:48 AM CST up reply actions  

veteran WR

Who would you then pick up to be the Vikings veteran receiver? Who is the #1? Who is the #2?

Berrian is our #1 receiver right now. He gets covered more heavily than Rice. Berrian is our speed option to complement Sidney Rice. Berrian is a veteran route runner. He has the ability to get open in the red zone.

Berrian is a very good wide receiver. Considering his injuries, he has contributed a lot.

by medicineball on Nov 24, 2009 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Bernard

I heard somewhere that they would like to keep Bernard but at a lower rate. He may need to renogotiate to stay.

by PurpleJesus on Nov 24, 2009 6:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Bernard is under contract till 2014

I don’t see anyway the Vikings drop him or renegotiate. However, he could be trade bait? What would you replace his speed with? A high priced rookie? That won’t save cap space.
Until we have another speedster on the roster I think Bernard is safe.

by lifelongvike on Nov 24, 2009 7:29 AM CST up reply actions  

What speed?

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Nov 24, 2009 10:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Agree here

This year he really has lost any speed he had. Certainly not worth the money he is being paid.

As for who to replace him with, he was out for weeks and we were fine. It is for that reason we hold the keys to the renegotiation of the existing contract and should get him for a bit less.

by PurpleJesus on Nov 24, 2009 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Another Quarterback to look at is Lefevour out of Central Michigan. I saw him play against my school this year. He’s got real potential. Alot of scouts are projecting him as a top 5 QB. If he’s still around in the second round I’d really support trading up for him. I don’t really think a 1st round change is going to be worth it though. His career rating at CMU is 145.7 and he’s got good size for a pro quarterback.

by geoff a on Nov 23, 2009 2:59 PM CST reply actions  

Risky

Most scouting reports downgraded LeFevour after the bad performance at Michigan this year. He was projected as a second round pick. I have consistently said that if our scouting department can find the guy they want and we don’t have to move up then do it. Just remember that any pick not rated high enough for the first round only has about a 30% chance of being successful. First round Q.B. picks are only 50/50 although High draft picks are a little higher than that.

by lifelongvike on Nov 23, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I say stand pat

I really think that Bradford will fall to the late 1st round area. He has am injury he’s nursing now, and with this draft being rich in just about every position, I don’t think teams will want to draft a question mark. I can see the Vikings taking a gamble on a high caliber player with question marks (Peterson, Harvin, Moss etc.). If we don’t win it all this year, I expect BF to come back for 1 more shot. I can see Bradford there at 30, and the Vikings taking a risk on him, allowing him to sit behind BF for a year, to learn and get 100% healthy.

If there is any way to get Bradford, I say we do it. He was going to be a sure fire #1 pick last year, and he stayed, and got hurt. This could be our chance to get the franchise QB we so desperately need, without having to pick/pay in the top 10 to get him. I’d even be willing to move up from 30 to, say, 20 if he’s still there, giving up our first and Sage?

by PurplePeopleEaters09 on Nov 23, 2009 7:45 PM CST reply actions  

Agreed

That would clear some cap nicely. Maybe throw Madieu in there for good measure. And Berrian.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Nov 23, 2009 7:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I don’t think calling someone “a sure fire #1 pick last year” is good on a QB’s resume. I remember Brian Brohm would have been one had he left his Jr year and look how that has worked out so far. Matt Leinart had that tag too and he has struggled his 4 years. Brady Quinn was supposed to be sure fire and the only game he has shown anything in was this past week at Detroit. All these guys were talked about being #1 overall picks had they come out their Jr years.

by Josh_D on Nov 23, 2009 10:23 PM CST up reply actions  

6' 4",quick release, 68% completion %

Sam Bradford will not fall out of the top 15 unless his medical issue is chronic.

by lifelongvike on Nov 24, 2009 7:24 AM CST up reply actions  

So we'd have to move up to grab him....

The question is, would he be worth it?

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Nov 24, 2009 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep, Thats the question

Personally I think Claussen, Bradford ,and Locker go top 15. Tebow is the wildcard if the Jags really want him. The problem is that there are 5 teams really needing a Q.B. so it doesn’t look like the year to reach for one.

If I’m right and 5 teams want a Q.B. then somebody really good at another position is going to be ripe for the picking. Just pray that Travaris is a lot better than the fans are giving him credit for being. I looked at his college stats. He was a hell of a Q.B. at a small school.

Have you looked at this eligible sophomore Ryam Mallet. 6’7" tall and 250 lbs with a rocket arm. Poor footwork but he isn’t very experienced yet. He was rated a pro prospect coming out of High School.

by lifelongvike on Nov 24, 2009 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Ryan Mallet

6’7"… With that height, if he has the strength and accuracy, it’s going to be hard to go wrong with him. He can make up for what he doesn’t know with superior field of vision, and he’ll learn faster because he’ll be able to see more of the play unfold. I just took a look-see at his stats, very impressive.

I’m kinda concerned about the age, he’s young and he’d be a project QB and I’m kinda leery about that… we really need someone to go in a year, maybe two at the outside. Still, I love the height on Mallet and his stat line backs it up.

The other concern is the school’s football program that he comes from… where does it rate in terms of being ‘pro-ready’? I was looking for that but didn’t find it mentioned. Truth to tell, I’m not that familiar with the different college programs.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Nov 24, 2009 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

No matter who we pick it will be a project.

The truth is every drafted Q.B. is a project. The good ones ( Farve, Manning, Rivers, Rodgers, Romo, ect ) all sat on the bench learning before they were expected to win. This new theory of starting a Rookie is still experimental. It might work once in a while but just like Stafford, Young, and Sanchez it guarantees a lot of interceptions.. If not the first year then the second.

Since we are picking late in the first round every Q.B. we can draft in that position will have questions or issues ( weak arm, inexperience, small school, slow, shotgun Q.B.)
All we can do is trust our scouting department.

by lifelongvike on Nov 25, 2009 7:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Starters vs Projects

I know it’s the phenoms who are ready to go right out of the draft, and that they’re a rare breed. But for the value of a 1st round, 1st -10th pick, I think a team should be able to expect something close to that with top-seeded QBs.

One of the prevailing notions is that if a QB is started too soon, he can be ‘ruined’ for the rest of his career, or at least have his progress stunted. I’m not sure I subscribe to that, or at least, if the guy is ‘ruined’ by getting real play experience, I’m going to wonder about his suitability for the game.

In the Vikings case, getting a long-term project like T-Jack has been, could kill the team. We don’t know how long Favre is going to be able to play at this level, and how long he’s going to want to play. If we’re lucky, we get the rest of this year, and next, and then…. who? The Vikings are a fairly young team, but you go to next year’s draft, then add 3 more years on top of that for developing a new QB, and may be some serious aging issues on the entire team. Hopefully they continue drafting well and picking up good acquisitions along the way to build a dynasty because we’d have to wait 3.5 years for a new franchise QB to be ready.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Nov 25, 2009 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Even Brady waited a year

People do forget how very special Ryan and Flacco were to be successful starting rookies. Even Brady sat on the bench an entire year until he happened to be playing due to injuries. If we move all the way to the top of the draft and pick a Q.B. I wouldn’t expect him to start until year two. Thats why we have Farve and Sage for two years. T-Jack is the topping on the cake. If we judge him to be the next Franchise guy we save a draft pick and sign him to a new contract.

In the last few years there have been bust Qbs taken in the top 5 of the draft. Alex Smith, Russell. Drafting position still only gives you a 50/50 chance. Scouting is everything. I think the contract extension for Chilly, even with the T-Jack draft pick says that the Organization trusts his talent evaluation.

Remember also that the Vikings history is full of free agent QBs. not Draft choices. Tommy Kramer and Culpepper are the only first round draft choices of the Vikes, EVER. Moon, Cunningham, Farve. All older free agents. I don’t think a long term project will “kill the team” at all.

This years draft is full of non-seniors. Whoever we draft will probably not be NFL ready.
Its going to be a fun draft year.

by lifelongvike on Nov 26, 2009 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

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