Favre Dominates Chicago as Vikings Sweep Homestand
by Anthony21 on Nov 29, 2009 6:48 PM CST
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If teams have an answer for this offense, we have yet to see it.
Adrian Peterson's numbers lagged once again this afternoon. He finished the evening averaging just 3.4 yards per carry, and if you take away his longest run (15 yards), the picture becomes grimmer for Peterson. Oh yeah, he also coughed up a fumble that brought a premature end to the Vikings' opening drive of the game. And oh yeah, he coughed it up again in the second half as the Vikings were driving in Chicago territory -- but the Vikings retained possession after a Brad Childress challenge. All told, this is a game that Peterson needs to immediately forget.
But Brett Favre made up for it. And then some.
Favre is clearly having one of the best seasons of his career -- and many analysts are calling it his best ever. Anyone of the opinion that Favre is playing his best football yet certainly got plenty of ammunition from today's game, as Favre controlled the Chicago defense. When the first half had reached its conclusion, he had gone 20/31 while racking up 256 passing yards and three touchdowns. He hardly slowed down in the second half, finishing the game near the 400-yard mark through the air.
He's throwing a lot of passes for a 40-year-old arm to handle. But he's holding up remarkably well. And the impact he's made on three guys -- Shank, Harvin, and Rice -- has been MVP-worthy (particularly his impact on Rice's production). Predictably, those guys posted big numbers this afternoon. But Bernard Berrian and Chester Taylor were also key receivers for Brett, and five receivers (Shank, Harvin, Rice, Berrian and Taylor) finished the game with five or more catches. A first in franchise history, if you're keeping score at home.
Last week, we saw the efficient Brett Favre as he picked apart the Seattle defense and finished the game with a completion percentage near 90%. This week, we saw the more explosive Brett Favre. And yet, he remained accurate (you could count his poor throws on one hand), his interception mark for the season remains at three, and the Vikes did a good job of controlling the time of possession battle -- in spite of Adrian's slippery hands.
Of course, there was a smattering of other concerning issues that occurred on the offensive end. Too many penalties for my liking -- Big Mac was nailed for an ineligible man downfield penalty that nullified a touchdown near the end of the first half (though the Vikings scored two plays later), and the Vikes' first offensive drive of the second half turned into a penalty fest. Four penalties on that drive, including another one that nullified a touchdown -- though in fairness to Bernard Berrian, who was called for holding, it was a questionable call.
On the defensive side, the Vikes had some trouble handling Jay Cutler during the early stages of the game. He was throwing for a high percentage and had some time to throw the ball -- but as the game went along, the pressure gradually became more intense until it became suffocating. One drive in particular stands out. Chicago briefly showed some life to start the second half, as a long kickoff gave the Bears the ball inside the Vikings' 10. Here's how the ensuing drive unfolded: Forte runs for no gain, Cutler gets sacked for a loss of two yards, Jared Allen draws a false start from Orlando Pace, and Fat Pat sacks Cutler for a loss of five yards. Robbie Gould nailed a field goal to salvage a disaster of a drive, but the defense was dominant. Matt Forte was a complete non-factor.
The Vikings even finished the game with a couple rare interceptions -- one coming from Cedric Griffin in the endzone, the other coming from The Mullet. Jared hilariously threw the ball forward after making the pick, so he made a boneheaded play mere seconds after an awesome play. No harm done, though.
One more downside of the game before I get back to the positives: The kickoff coverage gave up some big returns. Danieal Manning had a 44 yard return, and Johnny Knox was responsible for the 77-yard return that I referenced earlier.
But Favre's outstanding performance easily overshadows any of the concerns surrounding penalties or the kickoff coverage. He's spreading the ball around effectively, he's making his receivers better, and he's absolutely killing teams that make stopping Adrian Peterson their top defensive priority. How well did he play today? The old man came 10 yards shy of setting a career high for passing yardage in a single game. That's how well he's playing. An offensive showcase this evening, as the Vikings finished with 527 total yards of offense.
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what me worry?
On paper and the highlight show it will be a dominating win. But this game looked ugly with the penalties and bad player decisions. Why was I nervous all game?
by DBQViking on Nov 29, 2009 6:57 PM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
No clue
Almost half of the Vikings penalties were on one drive that left the Vikings 1 and 13 from the 20. A little messy? Sure. Sweating this one out? Lay off the caffeine.
Bad decisions? I can’t imagine what you consider a bad decision.
AP’s fumbles are still an issue, but neither were critical. I thought the Vikings dominated a division opponent from start to finish.
by LoveHate on Nov 29, 2009 7:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Joe Buck backpedals
Anyone else get a good laugh at Joe Buck’s bashing of AP. Saying he shouldn’t play then they go to commercial, they come back and he spends the next 20 minutes “Clarifiying” his comments about AP. I think it’s past time for Joe to just say No, this isn’t the first time I’ve thought he was biased against the Vikings.
by rdnktrlrtrsh1 on Nov 29, 2009 7:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that was interesting
It was Troy Aikman, technically. I have to agree, though. At a certain point, AD will be benched. That point is not very far away.
by medicineball on Nov 29, 2009 7:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt they'll bench him
AD is way too important to the Vikings offense for that to happen. The threat of AD getting the ball is why those play-action passes are so effective. They’ll probably make him work on ball handling more during practice.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Nov 29, 2009 9:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Too many fumbles = benched no matter who it is
by medicineball on Nov 29, 2009 10:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What's he at 5 this year?
We’ll make it 4 right off the bat since the pitch to Percy goes to coaching (ridiculous, dangerous play call) and not AD’s ability to hold onto the ball. 4 isn’t all that bad, but I’m not claiming it’s acceptable. So unless you define “not very far away” as sometime next season(after putting the ball on the ground a decent amount more), I wouldn’t agree with your first post on this.
by archie2227 on Nov 29, 2009 10:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
AD will not be benched! that's just retarded
"We Szekelys have a right to be proud, for in our veins flows the blood of many brave races who fought as the lion fights for lordship. Here, in the whirlpool of European races, the Ugric tribe bore down from Iceland the fighting spirit which Thor and Odin gave them, which their Berserkers displayed to such fell intent on the seaboards of Europe, ay, and of Asia and Africa too, till the peoples thought that the werewolves themselves had come."
-Bram Stoker
by NMVike on Nov 30, 2009 2:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fumbles
The coaches may forgive A.Ps fumbelitus because they all know, the next time he touches the ball, he can take it straight to the endzone.
Much like the way Packers fans/coaches forgave all those Favre ints, even though he would throw a bonehead pick, his next pass could be that eyepoping play, shakeing of 3 would be sacks and drilling the ball inbetween 3 defenders and it would end up as a 70 yd TD play.
(PS, A.P mostly fumbles when he runs left)
by Jarlsberg on Dec 1, 2009 8:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Aikman also reversed field
when talking about the best team in the NFC being the Vikings. Just a month ago near the end of Packer Annihilation 2 Aikman said the Saints were the best NFC Team. Now he’s taalking Vikes. A month from now he’ll be talking another team.
by Belarus on Nov 30, 2009 4:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why can't fans just enjoy the show???
My 17 year old nefew was over watching the game and I got a kick out of how upset he was getting when something didn’t go our way. I tried calming him down saying “we have a 20 point lead” or “Its early” but it didn’t work. I’m growing tired of this attitude that seems to be everywhere in Viking nation, ya know. Fan bemoaning the running game, penalties,special teams, etc… This team is light years ahead of any Viking team in recent history.
by d_marschke on Nov 30, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Kinda hard to understand
Instead they moan about people not being patient, or being upset when other fans are unhappy. Some even complain when they see other fans unhappy about the Vikings getting penalties or when parts of the team are having trouble. Incredible.
Don’t worry, be happy. :)
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Nov 30, 2009 7:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's one
Favre makes me physically ill in the pelvic region.
by Heech on Dec 1, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha!
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Dec 1, 2009 4:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Could that be...
something that’s called “an erection”?
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
by cryhavoc on Dec 1, 2009 5:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa! TMI!!
And too early in the morning, I’m trying to drink my coffee here, without spitting it on the keyboard!
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Dec 2, 2009 7:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry,
but not my fault. I posted it at 5:23 PM. What else would cause Heech to have a issue with (his?) pelvic region, when thinking about Favre?
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
by cryhavoc on Dec 2, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The bad and the good
The bad
Slow start
Lots of penalties
Two fumbles by AD
AD low yards-per-carry average
The kickoff coverage unit broke down several times, continuing a trend from the Seahawks and Lions games
Extra point attempt failed in the 4th quarter. It was either a bad snap or Kluwe (the holder) muffed it.
Kluwe didn’t punt great.
Too many pass attempts for Favre (48) because of penalties and ineffective situational running.
The good
Childress’s challenge
The Bears feared Harvin so much they never kicked off to him
Lots of good plays were made by the receivers, including Harvin, and by the offensive line in pass protection
Good job by Artis Hicks filling in for Anthony Herrera
Great game by Favre
Chester Taylor is excellent
Time of possession was lopsided again. The defense did a good job in getting off the field.
by medicineball on Nov 29, 2009 7:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Kluwe's Punts
I think most of Kluwe’s mediocre punts were caused by the respect to Hester. He wanted to get good hangtime with direction, so he may have been thinking a little too much while punting.
Lower Deck Tickets on 50 yard line behind Vikings bench = $119.00
Parking by the Metrodome = $25.00
Souvenir Soda = $6.50
Being there for 296 = Priceless
by Skol Vikes on Nov 30, 2009 12:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Kicking game
Hester is good, but Knox is a lot faster, and Knox almost burned us for a TD.
What I don’t understand is, if Kluwe (and Longwell) have enough leg to boom it deep into the end-zone, why don’t they? Let it touch-back, the opposition starts at the twenty which is just fine when the opposition is sporting hot kick-returners.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Nov 30, 2009 8:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Captain Obvious checking in
To tell you that this Vikings squad is pretty darn good, and the Bears are pretty darn bad. That makes this guy very happy.
by ericj69 on Nov 29, 2009 7:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Really!?
Purple Haze is the worlds greatest Natural Resource.
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Nov 29, 2009 7:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just Wondering...
eric, would you happen to know where those Bear Trolls are who were saying how Lovie Smith had Brett Favre’s number and that #4 was going to throw his share of picks against their “great” defense? Just wondering cause it seems awfully quiet from the direction of the Windy City…not even much of a breeze…
by purplegrey on Nov 30, 2009 12:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Open your eyes, suckah! ;)
I’ve been posting all day… and last night. Although I don’t classify myself as a troll:
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by smudgers on Nov 30, 2009 8:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Love the purple tint on the helmet, nice touch :)
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Nov 30, 2009 8:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, good sir...
I’m an equal opportunity photoshopper. I did ’em for all the North teams (except the Bears, of course) and even for the MHR fans that kept showing up to rub salt in the wound.
Here’s the Packers one:
For the Lions one, click MATT MILLEN.
For the Broncos one, click HOODIE, JR.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by smudgers on Nov 30, 2009 8:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Too funny!
Nice work!
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Nov 30, 2009 8:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
not much to say
I had LOW expectations for the Bears going in and they failed to meet them. There is not a single position where you could say the Bears have the advantage. This Bears defense is much different than the one that beat up on #4 in his final couple years in GB. There are also much better players around Brett than their were in his final few years in GB.
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
by mjk83 on Nov 30, 2009 4:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Uhhh, really?!?
There is not a single position where you could say the Bears have the advantage.
What about >> this << guy!
Advantage – Bears!
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by smudgers on Nov 30, 2009 6:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome!
I had forgotten all about that.
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
by cryhavoc on Nov 30, 2009 7:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd put our ball boy
up against any other ball boy in the league!
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by smudgers on Nov 30, 2009 7:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ball Boy
You should try him out on the offensive line. Orlando Pace doesn’t seem to be able to handle it.
by purplegrey on Nov 30, 2009 9:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
All part of the plan...
Pace and others on our offensive line LET people through on the regular so that teams can’t pick out our screens. Turner is a genius, muhahahah!
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by smudgers on Dec 1, 2009 5:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I stand corrected :)
I totally forgot about the speed of our ball boy.
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
by mjk83 on Dec 1, 2009 11:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
longwell
is it me or am i the only one (well, my brother and i – former Packer fans) that’s getting irritated for Longwell not kicking the ball into the endzone?? AND his kickoff aren’t high, which doesn’t give the D time to get down the field to make a play. like i said, it may be a minor rant but…
SKOL FAVRE! SKOL VIKINGS!
by belairjeff on Nov 29, 2009 7:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Nope, you're not the only one
I’m not as upset with his height as I am that he keeps giving the opposition something to work with. Just boom it to the back of the endzone, let it bounce out, and take the touch-back. Making them start at their own 20 completely neutralizes Hester and Knox.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Nov 30, 2009 8:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually,
the Bears already neutralized Hester on KR’s by taking him off them. He still returns punts but that’s not his strong suit. I’d rather have back on kickoffs than punts, as he works better in space. Manning is our other kickoff return specialist. Not that Knox and Manning are bad, but…
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by smudgers on Nov 30, 2009 8:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dont you think that he would if he could?
"We Szekelys have a right to be proud, for in our veins flows the blood of many brave races who fought as the lion fights for lordship. Here, in the whirlpool of European races, the Ugric tribe bore down from Iceland the fighting spirit which Thor and Odin gave them, which their Berserkers displayed to such fell intent on the seaboards of Europe, ay, and of Asia and Africa too, till the peoples thought that the werewolves themselves had come."
-Bram Stoker
by NMVike on Nov 30, 2009 2:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree NMV
How many kickers do you see booming KOs out of the endzone? This is a wierd thing to be upset about. Longwell has missed one FG this year, and has made every PAT attempt (yesterday’s botch by Kluwe was not an attempt). RL is one of the most consistent players we have.
by Belarus on Nov 30, 2009 4:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Belarus Buddy
You stopped replying to my posts when you realized you were wrong about the DT’s and I found and posted your blah blah blah comment that you swore you never posted and said I was downright lying about. What gives? Man up.
by GGGamer on Nov 30, 2009 6:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Longwell and Kluwe's kicking distance
Both of them have very strong legs…. I wouldn’t expect Kluwe to do it when he’s kicking from further than, say, the opposite 40, but less than that, I think he could do. Depends on the angle of the kick, whether or not he’s being pressured. If there’s someone jumping up in his face, he has to go vertical to ensure the kick isn’t blocked.
On a kickoff tho…. Longwell can put it through the uprights from 52 yards out, consistently, in the face of opposition. I think he can boom a kickoff out of the endzone if that’s what he was intending to do.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Nov 30, 2009 8:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Viking Fail
Favre can’t throw 48 times per game. Period. It will be the come-uppance of this team.
Call me crazy but I was praying in the second half for more chilly-ball. I cringed as we were up 20 points with 9 minutes to go and Favre was still in throwing deep.
We’ve been playing with fire all season hoping Favre’s past problems wouldn’t catch up to him. Many more games likes this and he could just fall apart at the worst time….
As the Zen Master says: We Shall See...
by Booter on Nov 29, 2009 7:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Conditioning
It is all conditioning. I agree throwing 48X is not a great idea but if he keeps up in the workout room he should be fine. he has already shown he is not your normal 40 year old and he isn’t getting hit that much.
by PurpleJesus on Nov 29, 2009 8:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I frankly concur.
We could’ve added some extra TJack time in there in the fourth. And some more commitment to the running game throughout the game.
by Princely Frank on Nov 29, 2009 8:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That statement
is just plain wrong based on Favre’s stats when he has thrown 50 times a game for one, and how strong he looked on the last 10 passes for 2. His arm is as good as it ever was, endurance wise. He may not be able to throw it 75 yards in the air anymore (maybe he can?), but 65 yards is fine by me – especially as accurately as he is doing it.
Coaches and coordinators have been playing with Favre fire and getting burned badly. AD will have his day the game a defensive coordinator is smart enough to stop betting against Favre. Maybe you should, too. Vikings would not be where they are w/o Favre carrying the load when AD falls short of his status quo. Maybe you haven’t noticed, but Peyton has thrown 2 picks the past 3-4 games in a row and they still win. Favre is at a 8 to 1 TD/INT ratio. There’s not a QB in the league NOT salivating over that stat.
by jshep on Nov 29, 2009 8:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Please. No Chilly "Bread and Butter Ball"!
Don’t even kid about it. I am liking what I see the last few weeks – creativity and smarting play calling.
May I make a point. Wasn’t it all the anti Favre’s who predicted his INT’s would be our downfal? I have never seen the guy play smarter. He wanted out of GB so bad he is really going the extra mile.)
Last point-We need to be cheering on The Pats all night. An NFC title game in New Orleans will have the feature, “What a wonderful thing for this city that went through the horrors of Katrina.”
Don’t get me wrong. I sympathize but that has to be put in the closet .
What scares me is a comment made during the FSU/Florida game. They were asking if officials chatted about things before the game and at half. One guy said they do discuss things such as balancing out bad calls with a wimpy one. They will have predisposed ideas about certain players and he went as far as to say the refs do have certain bias’sesszzz??? (Didn’t know how to spell that one :
Take away the pictures of homeless families and reruns of rescue copters and testimonies of some little kid who will whimper how this (Saints in the Super Bowl) will cure all the disfunction in his life.
If we play at the dome. Put me in a scooter decorated like a stroller. I’l go as far as wear the goofy baby hat and pacifier (Jack Daniels flavor please). I will cry out how I endured watching my beloved Vikes lose 4 Super Bowls as a youth and teen. And how nearly dieing I would have never seen my purple heroes hoist the trophy.
I don’t know how boy’s, but I will do whatever it takes to get ito that game if we go to Miami. If you have any buisness contacts if and when the time comes keep me in mind..
Our local Viking Club has officially organized. Yours truly is Prez and we plan on playoff parties and hopefully a car pool if we have to play in NO. Otherwise we will be going down and taking in the festivities. I will be happy to pick up souveniers for ya’ll if ya send me the $. Don’t worry. I’m honest . Just give me ideas what ya want. Remember. It is pricy.
When it happens I’ll post something
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 29, 2009 8:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That kids pain
doesn’t measure up to what vikings fans lived through in the 70’s and since. The bears have a SB ring and the vikings don’t. The Bears only had ONE GOOD SEASON in 85, every year since or before they were mediocre or TERRIBLE. Cutler is the best QB they’ve ever had for christ’s sake!
Our pain of having so many GREAT teams and no ring far outweighs that kids lost home for one year…
by cdubs on Nov 29, 2009 9:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that was pretty ridiculous
But I’m personally pretty fed up with the media trying to use emotional blackmail to manipulate me, particularly if they use a kid as their prop. Let’s just leave the kids out of it.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Nov 30, 2009 8:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Media are the Ones Pushing the Pity Party....
on everyone concerning the Saints and post-Katrina New Orleans – they seem to think every team and every game needs a story line other than the team/game itself. The local people, including those of us in the surrounding areas, don’t think we’re owed a good football team on account of Katrina, although the fans are certainly enjoying having one after all these years of perennial losers.
I love Brett Favre and the Vikings AND the Saints – I’m leaving it to the football Gods to decide who goes to the Superbowl.
by MissButterfly on Nov 30, 2009 8:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
It was all tongue in cheek sarcasm. The media tried to pit the poor people of Detroit needing to beat the Twins cause of the loss of jobs in the auto industry. Didn’t Ford employ a ton of folks in St Paul? They’ll use the hurricane to make the Saints their darlings.
Minnesota is just not colorful enough for the media mogals.
My point was I suffered my pains a a fan as much as these other places and I would die to go to any Vikings game and be happy to sit in the parking lot at the Super Bowl if we made it. Why do they make it seem like we are les deserving?
by CitrusFLViking on Dec 3, 2009 9:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hardly a fail
The reason that Favre’s so effective with play action is because the box is still being stuffed with 8-9 defenders whenever AP is in. That’s also why he’s getting so many passes.
When AP takes a breather and CT comes in, they foolishly pull those extras out of the box, and CT busts them in the mouth.
It’s a nasty choice they have, trying to stop our offense.
From what he’s said in the interviews, I think Favre would be happy to hand off to AP at least half the time, IF the opposing D would let him. Since they don’t, it’s the Purple Air Express in some games, especially with the Bears who’ve been so horribly burned by AP in past games…
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Nov 30, 2009 8:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I heard one of the Bears’ players say in a postgame interview that their strategy was to stop Adrian and see if BF could beat them. You’d think someone would try the opposite. Another factor is their primary defense is a cover-2 that needs a fast MLB to get back and cover the middle. Uhrlacher does it pretty well. Last night Percy set up a tent and was toasting marshmallows there.
by Salty on Nov 30, 2009 9:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think that's what I would do
Let Adrian run the ball and see if I could get him to fumble a few more times. Maybe play nickel defense or at least let both safeties play back in coverage. Favre has a hot hand and passing usually scores a lot faster than running. Also, I think the football outsiders say high passing efficiency correlates more with winning than running efficiency, but I can’t give you a proper citation on that.
by oblivionspocket on Nov 30, 2009 3:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Time of possession and running out the clock suffers, though.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Nov 30, 2009 8:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What do you expect when we have the ball for 90% of games?
AD had 25 carries, Chester close to 10, heck even Harvin had a couple.
"We Szekelys have a right to be proud, for in our veins flows the blood of many brave races who fought as the lion fights for lordship. Here, in the whirlpool of European races, the Ugric tribe bore down from Iceland the fighting spirit which Thor and Odin gave them, which their Berserkers displayed to such fell intent on the seaboards of Europe, ay, and of Asia and Africa too, till the peoples thought that the werewolves themselves had come."
-Bram Stoker
by NMVike on Nov 30, 2009 3:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow - 24 pts in the 2nd quarter
4 quarters like that and we’d score 96, whew…
by mjmrad on Nov 29, 2009 8:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thinking the same
It’s like the first quarter is to figure things out, second quarter is to kill the opponent, and the second half doesn’t really matter.
What I can’t wait for is when we have to really fight in the second half. That will be fun.
by bewert on Nov 30, 2009 3:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Classical Gas
Do the math.
Opponents have decisions to make, and all their options are bad. The only answer is prayer.
PLAN A: The Viking offense will kill you with Favre’s arm and his decades of reading defenses should you choose to put all those people in the box. He’ll kill you if you blitz. He’ll kill you if you don’t. You can double as many receivers as you can. Favre knows who is not covered. He sees you when you’re sleeping. He knows when you’re awake. Ho, ho, ho: If you double them all, you have too many men on the field.
PLAN B. The Viking offense will kill you if you decide not to put all those people in the box. Peterson will eat up enough yards and clock (even allowing for fumbles created by gangs of well-schooled defenders) to starve you to death. This has been known for years. No one wants to be made to look like William Gay or Eric Wright. People watch that stuff over and over on the Internet. The Viking offensive line is big. Watch your defense get tired, then get injured.
Most still opt for plan A, perhaps because the slow death is more painful and because PLAN B has a longer history of being fatal and injurious. Some will try to fool the Vikes with defensive wrinkles. By the second quarter, the Vikings figure out just what you are doing, start to counter punch, and you realize you’ve already given them your best shot. You get tired. The Vikings are like the Borg. Resistance if futile.
The Viking defense leads the NFL in sacks. The Viking defense leads the league with fewest rushing touchdowns allowed. How many things in your playbook do not involve either passing or running? Answer: none of them. Oh well…
This is no surprise. This is not a drill. The Vikings keep getting better.
It’s just like the old guitarist Mason Wilson once said: “Talent is a cheap trick.”
by Elgar on Nov 29, 2009 9:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The only team to fear is our own
If they work diligently and don’t get overconfident, the other options to beat us are mathematically minute. Lightning does not strike twice all the time.
by Elgar on Nov 29, 2009 9:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Consistent Factor
The Vikings Defense. My how they have dominated this season. Maybe they aren’t ranked #1 in Rush D or some other stats we’re used to, but they’re sacking/hitting the QB with pressure, they’re stopping teams on 3rd downs, and they’re the toughest team to score on in the redzone. We don’t see it anymore because we expect it, but if -3 yards for the bears in the second half of offense doesn’t scream excellence to you, then we’ve been desensitized by this defense’s greatness….
by cdubs on Nov 29, 2009 9:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Reality check
The defense has been exposed for its vulnerability — the medium and long passing game, especially up the middle. Rogers did it (twice). Flacco did it. Heck, even Hill did it. The other wins? Detroit (twice), Rams, Browns, Seattle. Not a very good test of a defense, is it?
Do y’all remember the 41-0 doughnut game?
This defense is much better than that year. The D-line is outstanding — truly outstanding — and the LBs are adequate. Winfield is outstanding at run support and tackling, and above avergae in coverage. Griffin is above average in tackling and adequate in coverage. The safeties are very weak.
This defense has a LOT of room for improvement, and many good teams to play, before we can ever use a derivative of the word “great” to describe them without causing more objective observers to chuckle.
Now, the offense on the other hand — outstanding and apparently still getting better. When AP is your weak spot in your offensive game plan, well……..
Who’d a thunk?
TiggerSr
by TiggerSr on Nov 29, 2009 11:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LB adequate ... Wow.
Now the safeties are week I’ll agree with that but I would put the Vikings front 7 up against anybody in the league.
by d_marschke on Nov 30, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
The LBs are really good at stopping the run (although EJ has not yet returned to his early 08 form yet, an observation that the Vikings’ staff and EJ have confirmed in media reports). Of course, when you get to play behind 2 of the best run stopping lineman in the game, it is easier to make a lot of tackles, cause you don’t have to fight off as many blocks to do so.
Pass defense, however, has been mediocre at best by the LBs, when facing a good offense/QB. The Bears’ game was an outstanding performance by the LBs, but other games against the Packers, Niners, and Ravens exposed the LBs vulnberability in covering RBs and TEs and the middle of the zone.
I am not saying our LB group is bad. Just average. We don’t have any Pro-Bowl LBs and, while EJ may get there someday, LB is not where our playmakers are. There is no Willis, no Ray Lewis, no Urlacher, no Briggs. It is just average. That can work, especially with a great defensive line, as the Vikes proved back in the 70s (although Matt Blair was pretty darn good). But when you combine a mediocre pass covering LB corps with a weak safety corps, you are going to have trouble if the QB gets decent pass protection. Rodgers gave us fits without good protection.
You can’t have Pro Bowlers at every position. It’s against the law. So you have to come up with the right mix of outstanding and good and average players. Right now, I am simply wondering if the mix on the defensive side of the ball can stop Brees.
I have seen this plot line before: outstanding, high scoring offense with great 1-2 punch of run and passing attack, losing in playoffs because they can;t stop the other team at all. It wasn’t all that long ago.
This team has been blessed with good fortune so far, 11 games into the season. No season ending injury to any starters, let alone stars. Some lucky wins (Niners and Ravens, to be balanced with an unlucky loss at Pitt). Great team chemistry. Confidence but no signs of complacency/cockiness.
Maybe this time, just this once, it will end differently. As you say, let’s just enjoy the show.
TiggerSr
by TiggerSr on Nov 30, 2009 1:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry man
but it’s rare for a defense to be perfect. The secondary has been exposed at times, but overall, our defensive scheme is as good as you can realistically expect. That’s a reality check, you can’t have expectations of a 2001 Ravens or 2003 Bucs Defense when you have so many weapons on offense.
As a vikings fan, I’ve always felt other vikings fans had unrealistic expectations when it came to their football team. -3 total yards in the second half. Come on, that’s more than you can demand from a top defense.
by cdubs on Dec 1, 2009 9:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pass protection
is really great against a 4-man rush, so Favre has plenty of time to find a man
and Favre does a great job of finding the check down man against a blitz
not many ways to slow the passing game down
but like Elgar said, we absolutely can not get over confident, if we weren’t in such a race with NO, I’d almost hope for a loss to keep us grounded
From the only TRUE North division
by thewild_viking_twins on Nov 29, 2009 10:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ho, ho, ho: If you double them all, you have too many men on the field.
PLAN A addendum:
At which time, he’ll audible and send BB and Rice flying downfield for the Hail Mary and laugh while the flags are flying and he gets a free play out of it.
PLAN B addendum:
When AP off the field taking a breather, and the opposition pulls out of the box, Chester Taylor is there to remind them that he’s fresh and hungry.
Chip Davis would appreciate these equations.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Nov 30, 2009 8:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why was AD carrying the ball when the game was in the bag?
That’s a worse idea than having BF throw so much if you ask me.
by Salty on Nov 29, 2009 9:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
AD was a bad boy and fumbled the football. He had to stay after school and run out the clock. That’s what you get when you start making commercials in which you have scales.
by Elgar on Nov 29, 2009 9:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't hurt to give him some confidence going into next week.
by ericj69 on Nov 29, 2009 9:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
despite AD effing up, Childress needs to make sure AD keeps his drive and motivation, as well as his self confidence.
Seriously though, Peterson, stop fumbling the god damn football!!!
It’s getting really annoying.
by cdubs on Nov 29, 2009 9:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tiki Barber...
Ball Handling Consultant.
Call him up!
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Nov 30, 2009 1:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Chester got hurt in the 4th Q
Not sure if Young was even active. Hope Chester is OK for next week.
TiggerSr
by TiggerSr on Nov 29, 2009 11:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Paul Allen said they had a doctor looking at him...
that usually only looks at players when they are dehydrated or fatigued
From the only TRUE North division
by thewild_viking_twins on Nov 30, 2009 12:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
or chester
Don’t like Taylor with the ball either. They need to call up Scottie Graham at his pharmacy and see if he’ll tote it during garbage time.
by Heech on Dec 1, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like you're thinking of the Washington Redskins...
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Dec 2, 2009 7:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Peterson needs to get a grip
on the ball anyhow, Adrian cannot continue to cough up the football like he is, once the postseason is here, one fumble could mean an early trip home for the team. I think this factor also relegates him the the number 2 rusher in the league behind Johnson. Production and holing on to the rock are very important things for a RB and AD isn’t doing one of those things.
by Sixmark on Nov 29, 2009 10:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ahhh, memories...
I remember the days that everytime the ball touched AD’s hands, I filled with jubilation at the fact I “knew” he would take it to the house….unfortunately, those times have ceased for me, as I now slightly cringe EVERY time he gets the ball, praying he just hold onto the ball.
Now, don’t get me wrong, I know he can take it to the house as easily now as before, but the fear of fumbling overpowers that euphoric state I used to feel… memories…
by Spoolinup on Nov 29, 2009 10:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Players are not static
Perhaps such troubles are just what AP needs — a slap in the face to tell him he isn’t God just yet….
TiggerSr
by TiggerSr on Nov 29, 2009 11:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Eric Bienemy has probably taught AD everything he can. We should thank Bienemy for his services after this year, and hire a new RB coach. EB is a good coach, he’s just tapped out. He can’t teach AD anything else.
by medicineball on Nov 29, 2009 11:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
AP
Can we lay off of AP? The guy had the flu all week. Clearly he wasn’t 100% for this game. He’s been a lot better this year so far about the fumbling. He can still work on protecting the ball better, but don’t judge him by this game.
by NYCVike on Nov 30, 2009 12:02 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well
How many games in a row before we start to sus-pect something is wrong with the running game. Is it JUST because defenses are overcommitting to stop the run, even though Favre is top passer in NFL? That is the party line, but AP’s runs have not been effective for awhile now. Where he finds a hole, he does not break them to the house anymore, and most of the time there is no hole or AP can’t find it and gets no gain or a loss. He has regrerssed from the first 3 games of the year.
The flu?
TiggerSr
by TiggerSr on Nov 30, 2009 7:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
AP Under Pressure
He slams into his own teammates more often than not, and when that happens, it costs him precious time to re-orientate and look for a way around it. Call it 3 lost steps, during which time the opposition has keyed in on him.
AP runs straight at the line, obviously expecting an open lane to be there, or at least a gap so that he can hit the other team. Not there.
Often, when he’s going around end, he catches up and runs into his own lead blockers. Same situation as above then ensues.
Once they key in on him, and he’s delayed enough for them to gather around en-mass, they pile on. Watching AP carrying half the opposing D on his back as he ekes out another 3-5 yards is impressive, but it didn’t have to be that way.
I think the problem isn’t AP (other than his forgetting to protect the ball), it’s the offensive line.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Nov 30, 2009 9:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why is this a mystery to everybody..
The defenses are loading up against the run and have been for weeks. Read any of the game articles and coaches and players have stated it. Not only are they loaded the box with 8 sometimes 9 players there run blitzing, slanting the line, and maintaining there gaps. I’m amazed he can get what he gets, there is nothing when he cuts back. At some point this will change hopefully not to soon considering how Farve is destroying defenses.
by d_marschke on Nov 30, 2009 1:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hope you are right.
But AP seemed to break more runs early in the year, facing the same 8-9 in the box defenses. And it seems like he is not sniffing out holes as well as he used to. But I may be flat wrong. It may be the defenses selling out to stop him. That’s why I am wondering if anyone else has the same sort of gut impression about AP’s peformance. Is it just the defenses, or has he changed (for the worse)from his 1st 2 years in how he runs?
TiggerSr
by TiggerSr on Nov 30, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, he doesn’t seem to be as fast…. maybe it’s because the Ds know his speed now and they adjust their angle of attack accordingly, but even when AP does break free initially, he isn’t taking it to the house as often as he used to. The power is still there though.
I don’t know with certainty that he’s slower… it just seems like he isn’t as fast as he used to be and I’m not sure why. Maybe he’s relied too much on his power and speed, and once they have a bead on him, they’re getting ahead of him or piling on. If so, then he needs to add some moves, some guile, to his repertoire. And of course, protect the ball better.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Nov 30, 2009 8:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Reckless
AP is a rammy runner. Without the ramminess he’s just another back. It isn’t his physical skills or vision that make him good, it’s his attacking style.
by Heech on Dec 1, 2009 12:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What's a "rammy runner"?
Is that crotch-ache affecting your typing?
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Dec 2, 2009 7:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
when then?
So when can we criticize him? Is it in the playoffs with the game on the line when AD fumbles in a critical spot?
AD needs to fix this problem by carrying the ball high and tight. AD needs to improve this area.
Favre can’t throw 48 times per game and stay healthy. The Vikings can’t throw 49 times per game (including Berrian’s attempt) and win consistently.
The running game needs to get better when it can, and that starts with AD protecting the ball.
by medicineball on Nov 30, 2009 9:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You should
look at the last 10 throws Favre made. He is full on healthy. Look at the w/l percentage when Favre throws more than 30 times. His arm has carried this team just fine when AD’s not getting 100 and more. Put as much faith in Favre as you do AD – he fully deserves it.
by jshep on Nov 30, 2009 8:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
doesn't matter
Favre is going to make up for his lack of INTs in the championship game. Won’t matter how many fumbles AP has.
by Heech on Dec 1, 2009 12:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ahhh...
the fount of optimism rides again…
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Dec 1, 2009 1:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
anyone....
have tiki barber’s number that they can pass on to ap & eb so he can teach them the secret to holding onto the ball?
by indianavikesfan on Nov 30, 2009 8:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Forte is solid...
at holding on to the ball, wanna trade?
Although, I don’t know how much good it’ll do us with our current offensive line.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by smudgers on Nov 30, 2009 8:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So
anyone else notice the complete meltdown over at WCG?
From the only TRUE North division
by thewild_viking_twins on Nov 30, 2009 12:13 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Why yes I have.
How very kind of you to ask. Have you seen Jay Cluster@%&# smack the mic in the bears post game press conference? It’s awesome, it’s after Lovie’s emotionless zombie routine.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/chicago-bears/09000d5d81496faa/Bears-postgame-press-conference
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
by cryhavoc on Nov 30, 2009 12:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, when Crybaby Cutler pushed the mic away, looked like he was about to go ballistic there then all of a sudden changed his expression. That does resemble what a 2 year old would do, but on a more serious conclusion, and having dealt withan an ex-g/f who had this, I wonder if he has some bi-polar issues going on there. With the one minute losing it, then the next like everything is fine. Makes me wonder if there are some under lying issues with him that the public, the Bears or even Cutler knows about. hmmmmmmm
"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk."
"That is the craziest sonofabitch I ever saw, how many more like him do you think are up there?"
"We have clearance Clearance. Roger Rodger, what's our vector Victor?"
by VikesFaninNM on Nov 30, 2009 1:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you suggesting,
that Lucy could help him? She does only charge 5 cents. He should be able to afford that with that big extension that he got.
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
by cryhavoc on Nov 30, 2009 1:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Favre is the Greatest QB in NFL History!
by REVENGE4FAVRE on Nov 30, 2009 12:25 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
2 side notes and a play
1) Does anyone else every remember a game in which a first down was replayed, what 5 times. WOW. Is that a record.
2) How about having it 1st and goal from the 1/2 yard line, then getting sacked (no int) only to come right back with a TD throw. The difference between last year and this is that before a big set back on one play ended the drive. Now 3rd and 17, 24, it does not matter we have a real chance on any down.
3) I really would like to see the flee flicker 4 times a game after giving it to AP. It would be there 3/4 of the time.
by ZygiZag on Nov 30, 2009 12:37 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Red Zone
The difference, to me, is that I’m not worried on 3rd and 15. I know that Favre has a very good chance of finding an open receiver, and that the extra distance actually helps the passing game.
When the Vikes were down on the half-yard and goal point, the D was jammed into the end-zone, creating a very tight and crowded field of play once the Vikings joined them. It’s really hard to find a truly open receiver when there’s hardly any space for the receiver to walk without a defender standing there.
Push the line back, the D is spread out, the LBs are less of a factor and the passing game opens up.
This isn’t new, of course… the equation has always been like this. It just takes an experienced, accurate QB to take advantage of it. And, hrmmmn, yes, we have one of those :)
Of course, he could have simply handed it to AP and slammed it in. That would have been easier, lol.
Oh, on that flea flicker business…. not good. The idea is to minimize mistakes, not create major opportunities for new ones….
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Nov 30, 2009 9:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Flee Flicker
The Cards seem to do well with it last year in the playoffs. I really think if you give it to AP have him go right and then left everyone on the D will freak that he has found a lane and with the pitch back to BF and throw the reciever running a midrange route can take off as AD cuts back and he is going to be wide open. AD just has to work on the pitch.
by ZygiZag on Dec 1, 2009 4:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Anthony ...
I do remember some post from years ago when you (and your piers) ripped Favre for just about everything, probably seeing him as the reason for all evil … the times they are a changing …
PS … you all misspell “SKOL” if I assume correctly, you think it’s the Norwegian word for “cheers” well, you’re almost right. In Norwegian it’s written “SkÅl” as you don’t have the “Å”, it should be written “skAAl” and pronounced “skoal” like “board”
by Jarlsberg on Nov 30, 2009 3:05 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Piers?
To dock the boat? Skol is from Old Norse. If you have grammatical rules for translation from Old Norse, I’d like to see them. I see Danish referred to as an intermediary language. Words are spelled differently in different languages even with the same derivation. Heck grey is the acceptable spelling in Britain while gray is here in the colonies.
by Salty on Nov 30, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Old Norse ...
Old Norse is pretty much the same as Icelandic is today, so that will say the have a whole lot of different letters as well. I have no clue how “SkÅL” is written or pronounced in Iceland today (I’m Norwegian, not Icelandic …) True, Danish was for about 400 years the official language in Norway, when we were under the Danish king, the modern norwegian is directly evolved from Danish, on a funny note, we often say the Danes speak Norwegian with a potato stuck in their throat.
Words are like you said, spelled differently even if it is basically the same language, the Brits also write ColoUr, while in the US, its color. Same goes for Norwegian/Danish. I based my post on modern Norwegian.
But, I do know this, comeing from the land of the REAL Vikings, a real Viking, would never ever wear purple, or have their home “battles” under a roof ! :-)
by Jarlsberg on Dec 1, 2009 8:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That was kind of funny though.
Somebody misspelling “peers” correcting someone else’s spelling. :)
Here is how the Americanized version evolved, according to Wiki. I’m sure nobody in Norway or Sweden says “Ya, you betcha,” either.
Skol (written skål in Danish, Norwegian, and Swedish, and sometimes “Skoal” in English) is the Danish/Norwegian/Swedish word for a salute or a toast, as to an admired person or group. The meaning of the Scandinavian skalli/skalle: skal means simply “shell” and skál/skål “bowl”. There is a popular misconception that the toast comes from the mythical habit of Vikings cups made from the skulls of their defeated enemies.
“Skål” ([The] cup) (Denmark, Norway and Sweden)
“Skál” ([The] cup) (Iceland, Faroe Islands, Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland)
“Skoal” (Anglicization of Skål) (English-speaking countries)
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Dec 1, 2009 9:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Somebody misspelling "peers" correcting someone else’s spelling. :)
Here is how the Americanized version evolved, according to Wiki. I’m sure nobody in Norway or Sweden says "Ya, you betcha," either.
yeah, kind of funny that I wrote piers instead of peers, but like I said, I’m Norwegian, so, sometimes I will misspell something in english.
The version “Skál” I’ve never in my life seen, in Norway (today), skÅl is the correct spelling, I would guess that is an Icelandic verison. Finland you can cross out, they have a VERY different language. Swedish, Norwegian and Danish is pretty similar, and most people over here understand most of all three if they speak slowly. Icelandic is like I said, old norwegian, or at least very similar.
by Jarlsberg on Dec 8, 2009 3:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow!
I can say without any doubt that the game was a Favre-a-paloosa. If he stays healthy and AP starts it up again, there is no team that can beat us. (knock on wood)
by A's Crazy on Nov 30, 2009 12:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Failure to Consider!!!!!!!!
Seems that many people are quick to jump on AP for not performing like he has within the last two seasons as a Viking.. There are probably numerous factors that play into this:
1) AP is getting more receptions! AP is still having a 1,000 yard + rushing season, but he is also getting the most receptions ever in comparisson to his previous years as a Viking. Take that into consideration and he would maybe have more attempts running to make up for the lack of yardage. We’d maybe find out that he was lucky to get a few breakaways, etc. But he is still seen as valuable when we even throw him the ball.
2) Favre is really spreading the offense around. AP may not feel like the whole weight is on his shoulders to do well. We’ll still see him do well, but I think he has taken a step back since he was told to not lower his boom so much in fear of him getting injured or shortening his career. I don’t think he’s giving it 110% effort, but just 100% effort. Seems he is trying to do what is expect, rather than more than expected. We could even go as far as to consider it a “smoke screen” If AP is doing well, but not great! Defenses may consider to keep doing a 7/8 men in the box style defense. This opens a lot up for Favre to throw the ball and beat them thru the air.
3) If AP is in, and they remove the 7/8 box routine… You know the liklihood of AP to run the ball, would have to be rather high. No team will want to do that, since all he has to do is break off the front line and he should be good for an easy 5+ or more with ease.
4) The offense is soley based on AP and his talent. The offense has been opened up more since Favre has taken the QB position. From what I can see, Favre loves to throw.. Any average Joe could repeatedly pass the ball off..
Now things that I have noticed… Seems that Favre really telegraphs his hand offs. An opposing defense could/should really be able to read a run. I try to see if I see a fake hand-off that turns into a pass, but I rarely do. You would think it would maybe work the other way around for him to draw back to fake a pass, but rather hand off. I think I’ve seen a select few of them. I believe Favre is the king of tricking defenses.. His experience is what makes him so great for the most part. But his accuracy has been deadly this year.
We need to blow out a reasonable good team before we can view ourselves to go up against the Saints. I watched the MNF of the Saints/Pats, and it didn’t seem like the Pats brought their A-game. Looked like they really couldn’t do anything offensively, and they were even being gutsy with 4th down attempts in unreasonable field position, but were lucky. Brees really likes to go deep & often. If Vikes play them, I hope they bring the heat w/ the front line and do great coverage.
by Deek on Dec 1, 2009 1:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
There aren't many reasonably good teams...
There’s like 5 "Solid Good " teams in the NFL right now. We have 7 teams with less than 4 wins on the season. There’s a lot of “bad” or inconsistent teams in the NFL, and the Patriots are one of them.
You can’t fall into the hole of believing “we haven’t beat anyone good” propoganda, because it’s the NFL. It’s easy to say “any given sunday” when a team with a worse record beats a better record team, but if the better team wins then it almost hurts their reputation. It’s the NFL, you have to BEAT those teams consistently. The vikings have beaten those teams, and are a bad call and fluke interception away from beating pittsburgh.
The Vikes ARE as solid as they come, and if you watch any sports news, there’s a lot of analysts who like the Vikings over the Saints. A lot are saying it’ll depend on who plays at home, but honestly it’s dome or dome, I think the Vikings can handle a dome on the road as well as any team, and it won’t have as much of a difference on the outcome. It’ll be a good game nonetheless, but I think the vikings are the better all-around team over New Orleans.
by cdubs on Dec 1, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Saints and the Dome
Watching that MNF game made me realize 1 main thing; how much difference it made for the Saints that they were in their own Dome. That crowd was incredibly loud and really jazzed up the Saints players, those guys were bouncing around like they were plugged into an electric current. The Pats, on the other hand, couldn’t hear themselves think over the roar, they were floundering and again, I think the crowd was part of that for them.
The only advantage the Vikings have over the Pats situation is that if they face a situation like that, they’re accustomed to the roar of the Metrodome, which doesn’t seem as loud as NO, but it’s close.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Dec 2, 2009 8:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Other advantage...
BRETT FUCKIN FAVRE
Did you see that crowd in Lambeau? You would think that place would bring back enough “emotions” for any body in Brett’s situation to affect his gameplay. But Favre wasn’t even PHASED. He put up a 4 TD burger on the pack in their own stadium. Not saying the Packers are on the Saints level, but Brett has been there done that all over this league. A loud crowd in New Orleans isn’t going to rattle him one bit, and with him running the offense the players are feeding off HIS energy. I’ll take Brett Favre energy over Superdome energy any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
by cdubs on Dec 2, 2009 9:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The noise will give the Aints an advantage
but I don’t think it’ll be that significant. Vikes are used to artificial turf which is huge. In a way, NO is hometown for BF. He’ll definitely have some fans there.
by Salty on Dec 2, 2009 7:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hell cooled...
another 36 degrees this week.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Dec 2, 2009 1:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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