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Built From The Ground Up! Vikings are 16–4 Over Last 20 Regular Season Games

 After starting the 2008 season 1-3, the Vikings have somewhat quietly gone 16 – 4 over their last 20 regular season games, or 16–5 if you include the Eagles Wild Card game last January. I say quietly because I haven’t heard the national media demonstrate any awareness of this gaudy record. We all know that the Vikes have been on a roll. In the back of my mind I was cognizant that it extended to last season. However, I didn’t realize the full extent of it until this week.

 A statement attributed to Ted Thompson currently posted on the Acme Packing Company’s blog site started me thinking. Ted apparently said: "I’d say we (the Packers) have an excellent shot at the wild card or even if the Vikings have their annual collapse even maybe the division…". I started to think about historic Vikings collapses that are too painful to go into here, and then it hit me. I couldn’t remember a collapse in the Brad Childress era, so I started digging. Sorry Ted, but I found just the opposite of what you are hoping for… there aren’t any.

 Childress has been much maligned since arriving here in Minnesota. He brought most of it on himself early on with his stealth secrecy and some early personnel moves that didn’t seem wise at the time. His game day coaching skills were also suspect especially early on. I have criticized him myself on many occasions, but now it’s time for me to give him his due.

 The Vikings front office has been masterfully built by the Wilfs, Rob Brzezinski and Childress. Rick Spielman, Scott Studwell and the scouting team have done a great job of assessing talent and filling roster holes using both the draft and free agency.

 They have been built from the ground up. Having the courage to draft Adrian Peterson in spite of injury concerns obviously almost alone has propelled the Vikings from a decent team to a playoff team. But since 2005 there have also been many key free agent acquisitions like Brett Favre, Steve Hutchinson, Jerad Allen, Chester Taylor, Bernard Berrian, and Madieu Williams. Each one of these acquisitions addressed a specific roster need and made the team stronger.

 The Vikings have also made some incredibly good draft choices 2006 – 2009. Chad Greenway, Cedric Griffin, Tarvaris Jackson, Ray Edwards, Sydney Rice, Brian Robison, Tyrell Johnson, John Sullivan, Percy Harvin, Phil Loadholt and of course Adrian have really solidified the team. Most are starters now, and all have made big contributions.

 The Vikings have the elements of a championship team. Most people have attributed the addition of Favre as the single most important change that has contributed to this season’s record of 7-1. That’s a fair point. However, the nucleus was there last year when the Vikings finished 2008 going 9-3. Hats off to Childress and the front office for building this Vikings team the right way. 

Star-divide

Hopefully the Vikings talent will lead them to a Super Bowl win and the Lombardi Trophy. Enjoy the ride!

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Nice!

The Vikings have been dominant since October 2008.

by Line Judge on Nov 6, 2009 2:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Nice research

I think the media believes that the jury is still out until the Vikes win a playoff game. Although they sure jump on the Cowboys bandwagon as soon as they show a pulse.

by lifelongvike on Nov 6, 2009 3:58 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Oh yeah, try being here in Cowpukes country. Makes you want to take a dull rusty spoon to your eyes and expando foam to your ears

"That is the craziest sonofabitch I ever saw, how many more like him do you think are up there?"

by VikesFaninNM on Nov 7, 2009 10:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Only caveat. This is the middle of the season. They don’t hand out Lombardi awards for having a good first half of the regular season. I believe this team and the coach are worthy of our support as they prepare for the Lions and then the rest of the season.

by medicineball on Nov 6, 2009 4:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Point taken

That’s why I said ’hopefully". I am not expecting anything, but it never hurts to hope.

by Belarus on Nov 6, 2009 6:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

2006
I couldn’t remember a collapse in the Brad Childress era, so I started digging. Sorry Ted, but I found just the opposite of what you are hoping for… there aren’t any.

On October 30, 2006 Belichick came into the dome and passed all over our defense while grabbing the wrists of our offense and slapping us silly with our own hands; repeating, "Why are you hitting yourself? You should really stop hitting yourself. HAHAHA!"

After the game Childress said the Patriots had probably just given the league a blueprint for beating the Vikings. And that’s what kills me… they had, he knew it and he proceeded to do nothing about it the rest of the year but blame his players for not being able to execute his brilliant offense.

I copied and pasted that response from another post I made the other day, with a couple modifications, so it may not apply directly to this post.

A good coach makes his team better, he doesn’t wait for a better team to make him look good.

by dwarg on Nov 6, 2009 5:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

The vikes of 06 were clearly a rebuilding effort. You dont need a blueprint to beat a mediocre to bad team. It’s arrogance to believe that changing your scheme because someone exposed you during a rebuilding year is somehow gonna make a difference or be a good idea.

Staying the course, evaluating what you have after a body of work and filling in holes/weak spots with draft picks and free agents was the smart move. Guess what? It worked. We’ve improved every year since that first year in both actually talent on paper and results on the field.

Remember, coaches start out at a certain point and then improve or not too just like the athletes.

We are the vikings.......resistance is futile.

by Hoss-Drone on Nov 6, 2009 5:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Were they though?

I mean, after all the trials and off the field crap they had to deal with (and yes, they brought all of that on their own), they were still a 9-7 team.

I get the culture change that was needed, but the roster was not compeltely devoid of talent. The coaching staff, especially the coordinators, were pretty inept and/or understaffed, but it wasn’t a terrible team from a talent standpoint. That’s why I think so many people were turned off by Chilly in 2006, because he took a 9-7 team and went 6-10 the following year.

Yes, they’ve gotten demostrably better each season, but should there have been such a drop off?

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by MilCardFan on Nov 8, 2009 11:08 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

As critical as I have been of Chilly in the past, and as much as I can still ride his ass now, 2006? Sorry man, but that argument don’t gel here. Even if it was Bud Grant’s 1st year as a coach, what do you expect? We were a mediocre team at the time. Not even close to what we are now. Just went through an hick redneck ex-owner who bled this team dry, players who thought it was more important to have a free for all on a boat and a coaching staff that didn’t know which way to go prior to that. If that had been last year, or this year, yes, you have an argument and point. But not in 2006.

"That is the craziest sonofabitch I ever saw, how many more like him do you think are up there?"

by VikesFaninNM on Nov 7, 2009 11:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Umm...

Okay, so the original poster says there has been no late season drop off in the Childress era, I remind him of 2006 and you’re what? Claiming there was no late season drop off in 2006 because we have a better team now?

Did Tice not lead us on a pretty decent winning streak to close the 2005 season? We went 8-4 after the bye week. Or I could say we finished the season 7-2 if I just wanted to pad my numbers a bit. These numbers should be all the more illuminating because all your points about the decimation of the team by the cheapskate redneck owner are true and Tice still managed to lead us to a winning record, and all of those seven wins came with the same quarterback that Childress couldn’t get anything out of when he took over.

A good coach makes his team better, he doesn’t wait for a better team to make him look good.

by dwarg on Nov 8, 2009 9:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Chilly cleaned house that season

It was a step he felt that he had to make in order to take this team where he wanted to go. The poster also mentioned “some early personnel moves that didn’t seem wise at the time”. 60% of the skill positions on offense were replaced. Daunte Culpepper, Michael Bennett, and Nate Burleson were no longer there. In hindsight those personnel moves look fine. Chester Taylor and Steve Hutchinson have been upgrades, while Culpepper, Burleson, and Bennett have drifted away to relative obscurity. 2006 was definitely a rebuilding year.

by Belarus on Nov 9, 2009 7:21 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Where do you want to go today?
It was a step he felt that he had to make in order to take this team where he wanted to go.

Which was to a 6-10 record apparently.

Over the last two years some pretty good coaches have come into the league and they took teams with embarrassing losing records to winning records and division championships in a single year. Bud Grant did it in 2 years. Childress has needed the Vikings to spend more money than all but two other teams in the league for the last 4 years to amass enough talent to look like a contender in a weak division.

We’ve talked this to death already, but if you’re going to judge a coach based on his players don’t be surprised when your team’s performance falls off a cliff when you run out of cap-space or you get a couple of injuries.

Read the sig!

A good coach makes his team better, he doesn’t wait for a better team to make him look good.

by dwarg on Nov 9, 2009 9:46 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

There have also been many coaches

who have come to teams and led them to disastrous results. The Wilfs, Brzezinski, Spielman, and Studwell all have input into FA decisions. Childress is obviously not doing that alone. To their credit they have amassed enough talent to be a contender in the NFC and the NFL… not just in a weak division.

You don’t like Chilly, I get it. That’s okay, because I don’t necessarily believe he’s the greatest coach either. But he does have some positives in his favor and he seems to be improving. As I said, I have to give him his due.

Like it or not, after 8 games, there are two coach’s names starting to surface for NFC Coach of the Year honors. They are Sean Payton and Brad Childress.

by Belarus on Nov 9, 2009 10:46 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You know what, you're right!

The lightbulb just came on, I can give Chili his due. The man is a genius.

The Brad Childress 6 step plan for coach of the year.

1. Make friends with a head coach in the NFL and have him hire you as “Offensive Coordinator” even though he’s going to handle all the play calling and hard stuff for you.

2. Take credit for the ability of your franchise quarterback who had been voted offensive player of the decade in his college conference. This will excite other teams.

3. Wait until rival teams are both looking for a head coach. talk to the richer one first and see if they’ll offer you enough money to keep you from talking to said rival. Tell everyone:

“Out of those jobs that are open in the NFL, this is the plum job, without a doubt, hands down.” — Brad Childress

4. Make sure the owner has enough money and desperation to spend whatever it takes to get you the best players on the market. Even over-pay slightly above average talent to get them in the stable.

Childress made it clear what made this job so coveted was the personnel he was inheriting from a winning team, and also the presence of owners willing to spend for players and assistant coaches.

The Wilfs did spend, allowing Childress to bring in 15 assistants and a number of free agents, including Steve Hutchinson

Behold a timewarp aka, a source

5. When that isn’t enough, beg a retired hall-of-famer to come out of retirement. When he says he wants to skip training camp, take a tough stance then cave in.

6. Four years later wait for the wins and accolades to roll in.

The difficulties in the past will only serve as obstacles you brilliantly overcame regardless of whether you created them… Everyone loves a winner.

Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of my nose. It’s all right, everything is all right, the struggle is finished. I have won the victory over myself. I have learned to love BIG BROTHER.

A good coach makes his team better, he doesn’t wait for a better team to make him look good.

by dwarg on Nov 9, 2009 1:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's a funny post

I enjoyed it. But you missed a step in between #4 and 5.

Step 4.5: Become guarded and secretive about everything including who will be starting on Sundays, and what your thinking was on personnel moves. Convince yourself that other NFL Coaches and front office staff are living and breathing for no other reason than to steal your ideas and use them to gameplan against you. Don’t stop until you appear paranoid and semi-delusional.

Dwarg, this all makes for good fun, but maybe you should catch those tears and distill them. Because I think Chilly is going to get an extension out of this season, so there are could be a lot more tears. No use letting good gin go to waste.

What’s your short list of coaches who we should pursue should Chilly stumble down the stretch? Cowher, Gruden, and who else?

by Belarus on Nov 9, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well player sir.

As I replied in a comment farther down, if Childress can take us on a deep playoff run I’d be fine with an extension. As for who would I’d hire if he gets fired:

Gruden is really tempting, he has everything except the trust of players, which is obviously really important. He’ll probably need another year or two away from the game to clear the bad blood, but he’ll be great when that day comes.

I’d be OK with Cowher. I think he’d be good but I’m leery of what he’d be without Dick LeBeau.

But I really like what I’ve heard about Mike Shanahan during training camp this season. He’s been traveling around studying the game and talking with every other head coach that will let him. He’s making plans for coaching again and he’s hungry for another championship. He’s got the experience and he’s scouting for the best assistant coaches he can find. I think the team that signs him is going to benefit greatly.

Last I’ll leave you with some simple math:
AP > Terrell Davis
Terrell Davis + Mike Shanahan = 2 Super Bowls
AP + Mike Shanahan = ?

A good coach makes his team better, he doesn’t wait for a better team to make him look good.

by dwarg on Nov 9, 2009 6:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

In hindsight

It may have been a little too rube-ish to say AP > TD.

The man had a 2,000 yard rushing season and ran for 3 touchdowns and 157 yards in Super Bowl 32 despite missing the entire 2nd quarter and playing with a blinding migraine. So maybe

AP ≤ or ≥ TD which muddies the waters quite a bit, but that’s how it goes.

A good coach makes his team better, he doesn’t wait for a better team to make him look good.

by dwarg on Nov 9, 2009 7:50 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I wonder what Dungy is doing

I wouldn’t mind seeing him back in Minnesota… Shanahan would be a good addition as well. Cohwer, well he had a lot of bad seasons before it paid off for him in Pit. The nice thing is that he has the rings so he’ll be able to pick up the talent.

I’m not a huge fan of Gruden I think he is a bit to much of a hammer to make a great coach.

by Grime on Nov 10, 2009 10:40 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Because...

Last year Denver collapsed like the Vikings did in 2006 and 2007 during the Childress era. (I thought I’d work that in there).

He probably got too comfortable sitting in the same place for so long. Happens to a lot of people, but a lot of people don’t have the luxury of taking a year off, or more, to recharge and get ready for their next gig. He may not be the answer, but I’d be happy to give him two or three years to find out.

For that matter I have no problem hiring coordinators or college coaches that better football minds than I think have an upside. Give them a 2 or 3 years and if it’s not working give them the hook. But with a team already stacked with talent it may be better to bring is someone that’s been there before.

A good coach makes his team better, he doesn’t wait for a better team to make him look good.

by dwarg on Nov 10, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I have always had the belief that

if you don’t learn something new every day, whether it be about yourself, your spouse, your job, your friends, etc. that you are doing something wrong. That is what Childress has done up until this point. He has learned something new during or after every game or at least after a few games. To expect someone to come out and do everything well right away is foolish.

I’ve never been a fan of Brad Childress, but if my children showed half of the ability to learn from their mistakes and better themselves, i’d be thrilled to death. In case anyone else has noticed, the issue that Chilly had with clock management hasn’t really come up this season. Most of this can probably be attributed more to Favre than Chilly, but just like we’re all hoping that T-Jax can learn from Favre, maybe we can hope that Chilly also picks up a few pointers from ’ol Brett as well.

All in all, this franchise has finally come up with a front office that is willing to put nothing but the highest quality product on the field for the fans’ cunsumption, which I think, regardless of Favre retiring or unretiring may be the start of a team that could stick around the top of the league for a while, simply because the organization is committed to making it so!

I piss people off on a fairly regular basis. I cherish my right to speak my mind, whether I sound like an uneducated savage or not. I've never been accused of keeping what I think a secret, nor will I ever. Don't like it? I don't care.

by IABerserker1 on Nov 6, 2009 9:32 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

I can see Brett as a future Offensive Coordinator or Head Coach someday.

Maybe Brett doesn’t have an appetite for coaching, but Chilly already has picked up a few pointers from Brett.

Do you remember the Ravens game when the Vikes went into their “prevent offense” way too early? It almost cost us the game. There were many camera shots of Brett on the sidelines obviously unhappy as the Ravens drove for their final FG attempt. The Vikes had the same opportunity to go into a shell last Sunday, but they kept on attacking instead. On Berrian’s TD catch that sealed the victory, Favre suggested the play call during the timeout immediately preceeding the score. No matter how long Brett plays with the Vikes, Chilly is learning from him every game. That should pay dividends long after Brett’s playing days in Minnesota are over.

by Line Judge on Nov 6, 2009 10:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Keep on building

Its oblivous that this team has a legitimate shot at the whole enchillata. If we fall short I’m sure the Wilf’s & our coaches & staff will persue free agents to shore up whatever weakness that may show up. I believe that they want a championship as bad as the fans do.

by iowaron on Nov 7, 2009 2:08 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Straight up!

We need to worry about finishing the season first the right way! Getting home field advantage. Playing the other qb for some of the soft games coming up! Preparing the back ups for the real games coming. The Bears, Giants games are going to decide if we ready for the Eagles and Saints! Then we have to look at finishing off Pitt the right way in the Super Bowl!

by Chuck forman on Nov 7, 2009 8:09 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

It's not the 2003 collapse by any means

but I recall in 2007 the Vikes were 8-6 and in control of their own playoff destiny. They had the Redskins at home on Sunday Night Football, lost that game, then lost the next week at Denver to finish at 8-8.

Do I think that will happen this year? No, I don’t.

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by MilCardFan on Nov 7, 2009 9:57 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Overachieved in 2007?

I did consider those two games. But the Vikes won 6 of their last 9 games that year. I see your point, but that’s why I didn’t look at the last two games of 2007 as a collapse. Thinking back to that team I thought they got a lot of things sorted out that year. That’s what made the 1-3 start in 2008 so frustrating to deal with.

by Belarus on Nov 7, 2009 12:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Fair points,

and you can make a good argument that they did over-achieve, but losing two games to self-eliminate from the playoffs when they controlled their post-season destiny is a collapse.

By doing that, you could also make an argument that they under-achieved. They lost to a 4-12 Kansas City team, 7-9 Detroit and Denver teams, and at home to an evenly matched Washington team.

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by MilCardFan on Nov 7, 2009 7:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

8-6 wasn’t bad, considering they were 3-5 at the midpoint of the season. . .

by Frost on Nov 8, 2009 12:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

"Bring Super Bowl Back to the wild north winds of Minnesota"

In order to bring something back, you have to have had it at one point. And Unless you guys arent telling me something we’ve never had the Super Bowl.

Purple Haze is the worlds greatest Natural Resource.

by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Nov 7, 2009 11:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

I was thinking the same thing when I first saw this but left it alone. I’m guessing he meant a return to the Super Bowl

"That is the craziest sonofabitch I ever saw, how many more like him do you think are up there?"

by VikesFaninNM on Nov 7, 2009 11:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

NO EXTENSION

While I find it just as easy to fall under the Favre-Childress-(7-1)-1st place spell as the next fan, I have to stop myself for a moment and think about the two seasons prior to this one. As we sit in a bye week and prepare for a 2nd half run that MAYend up in a long playoff run, it doesn’t sound that crazy to hear the front office talk about a contract extension for Chilly. Unless you fast forward to the end of the Favre era, whether it’s this year or next, and realize that we’re right back to Tavaris or a rookie. A hall of fame QB has made all these ALL PRO parts run like a well oiled machine, but what happens when he’s gone? Is it that far fetched to see the Vikes falling back to the pack.. .maybe even literally… with the loss of Favre. And even though it’s hard to see right now, can’t you just feel that pit come back to your stomach, and the anger about conservative play calling and blind faith in a D2 quarterback begin to boil inside. The agony of a 4-4 record when you know what kind of talent we have, doesn’t it all feel wrong? So while we keep roaring towards the postseason this year, maybe we should slow down the contract talks and maybe even let Childress go out in a blaze of glory with his man Favre

by Squints'Sox on Nov 9, 2009 2:41 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

So one draft choice makes a coach

You point out the kind of talent we have and the fact that a QB is all it took to make the difference. To me that sounds like an endorsement of the current regime more than a criticism. They have assembled a strong team. More importantly, they have shown the willingness to go out and get the talent they need to win. The measure of this staff, coach and front office, has to be the condition of the entire team; not whether one draft choice worked out.

Besides, who’s to say that won’t mean they go after another QB in free agency when Brett retires? Now that the difference of having a play maker vs a game manager at that position in this KOA has been so dramatically illustrated, I doubt we’ll see QB inadequacy tolerated after Brett leaves.

For now I am happy to enjoy the moment we are in rather than worry about next season or the one after.

by Belarus on Nov 9, 2009 7:34 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps my point is simply that as the organization moves forward and some of these pieces to the puzzle start to either get older or too expensive and we find ourselves with a somewhat LESS talented team I personally don’t have enough faith yet in Childress to be the guy we look to for the next 4 or 5 years.

by Squints'Sox on Nov 9, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, i can understand your concerns. The alternative was to not add the pieces, and remain mediocre vs add the pieces and go for it. I am for the latter as long as they are smart about keeping / trading / releasing guys when it makes sense. If they are smart they can stay under the cap and continue to field a great squad.

The first big decision coming up is what to do with Chester Taylor. He will be a 31 year old free agent next year who I think the Vikes will try to trade. Other players coming up on free agency in 2010 are T-Jack (keep), Ray Ray (keep), Ryan Cook (), and Karl Paymah (). Stay tuned.

by Belarus on Nov 9, 2009 1:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You're thinking too much.

Look at it this way Squint’s Sox.

Team loses games: Coach Bad!

Team wins games: Coach Good!

If you’ve read that and you still don’t understand it, try using a Frankenstein voice and read it again. Then you should see it the way most fans around the NFL do. Even in the event of a team that wins a lot of games consistently but not the Super Bowl. The fans become anesthetized to the wins and begin believing, “COACH BAAAAADDD!” and call for his head anyway. Tampa fired Dungy for god’s sake!

We’re supposed to look at the coaches performance as directly tied to team performance regardless of talent, injury, team spending or any other extenuating circumstances. Then when the worm turns we jump off the coaches band wagon and call for his head. That way there is less time wasted thinking and more time for shiny golden beer.

A good coach makes his team better, he doesn’t wait for a better team to make him look good.

by dwarg on Nov 9, 2009 2:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Why not enjoy it for what it's worth?

You can make yourself miserable thinking about how each passing win has just made BC’s job more secure. Or you can toast each win with one of those beers, or martinis, or whatever your preference is. Chilly will benefit from a winning season, talent, injury, team spending or any other extenuating circumstances. Personally I choose to enjoy the ride. Skol!

by Belarus on Nov 9, 2009 3:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Trust me

I’m enjoying the ride. I probably get a little too happy when the Vikes win and a little too depressed when they lose. But I’ve been happier on Sundays more than I’ve been depressed I was even happy this Sunday when the Vikings didn’t even play because of who lost.

And if the Vikings can get past the NFC Championship game, I will be more than happy to have them write Chili’s contract extension in my blood. He has 8 more games that will give him plenty of coaching opportunities, as injuries start poking holes in the personnel and force the coaches to get creative. He can, and I hope he does, prove me wrong. I just think it’s too early in the season to declare Childress a genius with all the resources at his disposal.

Last year this time the Jets were coming off their Mangini/Favre high crashing back to earth. If one player makes or breaks your season you either have no talent or terrible coaches. We know we have lots of talent, we’ll have a chance to see what kind of coaches we have before the end of the season.

A good coach makes his team better, he doesn’t wait for a better team to make him look good.

by dwarg on Nov 9, 2009 6:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hope I'm not TOO negative

I really, truly am enjoying this season as it continues to unfold. The two games with GB, the awesome game with Baltimore, and hell….the Steelers game might have been the best we’ve played yet, BUT I just continue to not allow myself to get completely wrapped up in all of this JUST yet. There is nothing I want more than to see the Vikings win the Super Bowl this year, but I want that every year. When your team goes 6-10 or 8-8 you don’t hold realistic hopes for a SB win. Years like this though don’t come around all that often, and it’s very easy to get your hopes sky high. However, I do remember a certain seemingly unstoppable Minnesota team that went 15-1, outscored EVERYONE with Cunningham, Moss, Smith, Carter, etc. Now I think we all know how that ended up, and perhaps THAT moment, the missed FG, maybe that’s why I have trouble crowning us at the half way point. Perhaps it’s best to just keep the faith, believe, and just stay even keel until the playoffs get here.

by Squints'Sox on Nov 10, 2009 3:40 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you

Not sure if you’re responding to me but I hope it was clear I was agreeing with you a few posts up with the Frankenstein bit.

People look at NFL coaches like presidents. They get too much credit when things go well and too much blame when things go poorly. Sometimes they deserve it, but not usually.

And if there is anything we should have learned from our last president it’s not to declare “Mission Accomplished” too early.

Skol Vikes!

A good coach makes his team better, he doesn’t wait for a better team to make him look good.

by dwarg on Nov 10, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know if I'd slap a Bill Belichek stamp of approval just yet

Really, he paid for the team. He has receipts! Now is he better than the idiots schnyder pulls in to coach? Maybe Dan’s sort of a tool so I pity anyone working for him. However, when you look at the Pats, Steelers, Colts you see one thing. that is that no matter what kind of team that coach is fielding he is making adjustments based on what he has, and is letting them play to their utmost even if they may not be a star player.

I just don’t see Chilly doing this I don’t see him being able to hold a bunch of moderately talented players and make something greater than the whole. Now, really how many coaches can. Not many at all so really unless someone comes back from retirement I don’t see a reason to toss Chilly currently.

Yeah I know that’s a pretty much 540 of my previous stance on the leprecaun but, hey we all need to be men about this.

by Grime on Nov 9, 2009 2:15 PM CST reply actions   0 recs


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