Win /Loss records without Tomato Can Victories

by lifelongvike on Nov 7, 2009 3:26 PM CST Comment 12 comments

Everyone is trying to figure out how well teams have done since so many bad teams play this year. I have changed the record book by eliminating all wins against the tomato cans ( Any team with less than 2 wins). That means Detroit, Washington, Oakland, Kansas City, and Tennessee are Tomato Cans.

Lets see how the season stacks up so far for the top teams with more than 5 wins. These teams are suppose to beat the worst. So far only Philadelphia has lost to Oakland. The loss counts against them.

First off you should know how many tomato cans each team faces this year:

Indianapolis and New England 4

Cincinnati ,Houston,Saints, Vikes. Philly, Dallas, Giants 5

Denver, Pittsburgh 6

Records without Tomato can wins to date.

Steelers Bengals Houston Colts Patriots Denver Saints Vikes Eagles Dallas Giants

2-2 4-2 3-2 4-0 3-2 4-1 6-0 4-1 2-2 2-2 1-3

Saints are 6-0 with 4 TMs to play

Colts are 4-0 with 1 TM to play

Denver is 4-1 with 2 TMs to play

Vikes are 4-1 with 2 TMs to play

Patriots are 3-2 with 2 TMs to play

Maybe none of this makes sense but it sure looks to me like the Saints have a far easier schedule than anyone else.

The NFC East looks ordinary

Denver is better than anyone ever imagined they would be.

And Yes the Vikes are looking fine.

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Yeppers

Vikes are sitting in the driver’s seat…w exception of HFA….their destiny on this goal may well rest on the NO team losing a few…at least 2 I would say….

Not sure what the outcome would be if both teams have a tie record at the end of season…guess w then go into other “:measures?”

I would be interested to know on that one….may very well happen that both Vikes and NO have a tie W/L record…will it then go to conference performance, W/L against opponents both have faced, etc.?

May be a little early yet for this, but stil….

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by vikingfanfrom afar on Nov 7, 2009 3:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I'd also be interested on what the tie-breaker is.

by dsludo on Nov 7, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Without a doubt

The Saints have a fluff schedule. They are good, but really, how good? As I stated in my post on what I think our 2nd half will be, yeah, they beat N.Y., but that team always has a crappy mid season and starts and ends strong, so I would exclude that as a real test. I want to see how the Saints handle the Pats before I say they are a strong possiblity for a Superbowl or even 16-0. But for the rest of the teams, Saints are going to have a fairly smooth ride, perhaps a little bumpy with Dallas and maybe with Atlanta.

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by VikesFaninNM on Nov 7, 2009 6:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I could easily see Carolina’s D stepping it up and shocking the world tomorrow…

by mjmrad on Nov 7, 2009 7:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I would rather play the tougher schedule anyway

It keeps you sharp heading into the playoffs.

I don’t see any way we beat out NO with that schedule. They are going to lose 1 maybe 2 games at the most.

by PurpleJesus on Nov 7, 2009 6:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

tie braker

I believe that it is conference WL first then same opponents seeing as we will not have played them.

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by montana vikes fan on Nov 7, 2009 7:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Tiebreaking Rules

NFL Tiebreaking Procedures

The six postseason participants from each conference are seeded as follows:

   1. The division champion with the best record.
   2. The division champion with the second-best record.
   3. The division champion with the third-best record.
   4. The division champion with the fourth-best record.
   5. The Wild Card club with the best record.
   6. The Wild Card club with the second-best record.

The following procedures will be used to break standings ties for postseason playoffs and to determine regular-season schedules.

NOTE: Tie games count as one-half win and one-half loss for both clubs.

If two division winners are tied and have no head to head matchup then the following wildcard tiebreaking rule is in effect.

Two Clubs

   1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
   2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
   3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
   4. Strength of victory.
   5. Strength of schedule.
   6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
   7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
   8. Best net points in conference games.
   9. Best net points in all games.
  10. Best net touchdowns in all games.
  11. Coin toss.

Here is the link
http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

by lifelongvike on Nov 8, 2009 7:49 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Saints record

I’m not sure everyone who read the post got the message. The Saints have a record without playing a fluff schedule of 6-0. This leaves them 4 fluffs left to play which makes them the best team to date and the easiest remaining schedule. Maybe that will bite them come playoff time because they won’t be battle tested in the 2nd half but I bet it will mean they are healthy.

Yes the Vikes have a more difficult time ahead but it appears we have the team to win that other Bye spot.

by lifelongvike on Nov 8, 2009 7:53 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

" I have changed the record book by eliminating all wins against the tomato cans ( Any team with less than 2 wins). That means Detroit, Washington, Oakland, Kansas City, and Tennessee are Tomato Cans."

not sure I understand this….washington and oakland both have 2 wins, and cleveland, tampa bay, and st. louis have less than 2 wins but are not on your list. just spot checking to see if you just mistyped the list, Denver actually has only 3 games against teams with less than 2 wins. so i think your records are off, according to your critera.

by yanksrule08 on Nov 8, 2009 12:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Bad reporting

I meant the definition of a tomato can to be " a team with no more than 2 wins". I Think, but don’t guarantee, my records are correct. Can’t explain why I didn’t type all the teams that qualified.

Thanks for pointing out the problem.

In actuality I could have used teams with 1 win or less since there are so many of them but from the standings it appeared that those with 2 wins or less were obviously lesser quality teams than the upper echelon. It will be interesting to track.
Thanks again for your help.

by lifelongvike on Nov 8, 2009 1:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

ah, okay, thanks for clearing that up, and thanks also for the research.

by yanksrule08 on Nov 8, 2009 1:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Saints got it made

Its going to be tough to be the #1 seed. The Saints have an easier schedule. I think we almost would have to win out to have a shot. The good thing is our loss was to an AFC team.

by iowaron on Nov 9, 2009 8:29 AM CST reply actions 0 recs