A Couple of Quick Notes
by Christopher Gates on Dec 1, 2009 7:45 PM CST
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PrintSorry for the lack of updatery yesterday, folks. Had to finish my final paper for my most recent class and had a couple of other things get in the way, but here we are with a couple of quick notes, both at this past Sunday's domination of the Chicago Bears and a look ahead to the Vikings' next opponent, the defending NFC Champion Arizona Cardinals.
To put it bluntly, the Vikings were amazingly dominant in the second half of Sunday's 36-10 victory over Chicago. How dominant? Here's how Chicago's four second half drives went:
Drive #1 - 3 plays, -12 yards (yes, minus twelve)
Drive #2 - 3 plays, 9 yards
Drive #3 - 3 plays, 3 yards
Drive #4 - 3 plays, -3 yards
Four three-and-outs, and a second half yardage total of minus three yards. As a result, the Vikings more than tripled the Bears' total yardage on the afternoon and remained the only one-loss team in the NFL.
In addition, Percy Harvin reached a personal milestone against the Bears with the first 100-yard receiving game of his career. His sixth catch, on which he got blasted by a member of the Chicago secondary, gave him 101 yards on the afternoon, and he also scored Minnesota's first touchdown of the day. Anyone remember when it was a mistake for the Vikings to draft this guy because he didn't know how to run routes properly? Yeah. . .neither do I.
Looking ahead to Sunday night, Cardinals' quarterback Kurt Warner, who missed Arizona's loss to the Tennessee Titans this past Sunday, is not a shoo-in to play against the Vikings, either. It all depends on how his recovery from a concussion comes along over the course of this week. In Warner's absence, the Cardinal offense is being run by Matt Leinart. As a rookie in 2006, Leinart led the Cardinals into the Metrodome and lit the Vikings up for over 400 yards, but in terms of the quality of the Vikings' defense, that seems like a lifetime ago. In the six quarters since Leinart took over for Warner, the Cardinals have scored ten offensive points. If Leinart starts on Sunday for the Cardinals, the Vikings job should become significantly easier.
In addition, if the Vikings should be victorious this Sunday, they will guarantee themselves a spot in the post-season for the second year in a row. They can clinch the division this week with a win on Sunday and a loss by the Packers to Baltimore on Monday night, but if they beat Arizona, they'll punch their ticket to the NFL's post-season tournament.
And that's everything for this evening, folks. . .just wanted to get a quick update out there to make sure everyone knew we were still alive. There will be something significantly more substantial tomorrow. Big thanks to everyone that hung out for the Monday night game last night, too. . .if the Saints keep winning, we might have to have more threads based on watching them.
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My God.
Minus three yards? I mean, I know it’s the Bears, but wow…
In AP I trust
F-A-R-V-A =/= F-A-V-R-E
Okay, I was wrong about Favre.
by FarvaForTheVikings on Dec 1, 2009 8:09 PM CST reply actions
Activate Albert Young
If we blow out the next team, it would be nice to have a 3rd running back for the extra carries down the stretch.
Is it more that the Saints have a great D line or is the Patriots O-line knowhere what it used to be?
Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!
What the Saints did to the Pats was just ugly, man…. and I definitely think playing that game in NO helped them a LOT. It highlights the importance of HOA in the playoffs…
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
Peter King's tweet to me after the MNF Pats v Saints game. He is clearly on the Saints wagon.
SI_PeterKing RT @eligiofonsecajr: Vikings vs Saints on a neutral field,open air stadium, natural grass. who ya got? … NO, 37-31.
Skol Vikings!!
Let People jump on the wagon
It’s nice to be the underdog sometimes, and get less attention! Yes where receiving less attention than the Saints even though we have the old guy number 4
Why Do People Question The Vikings' Status?
by UnBannedVikingholic on Dec 1, 2009 9:36 PM CST up reply actions
Hmm, I've seen this before...
Anybody else feel a sense of karmic nestalga? The (nearly) perfect 15-1 team trounces through the regular season demolition opponents only to be bested at home by another slightly less heralded 14-2 team to advance to the playoffs?
‘98 can kiss my arse cause we’re playing spoiler now.
Um...that didn't turn out so well for us.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Dec 3, 2009 12:31 AM CST up reply actions
we would be the 14-2 Falcons in this case, and the Saints would be the 15-1 vikes
at least that’s how I understood it. :)
Correct
The Saints can keep the glory. We’ll play for the underdog role. I’d rather have it that way than feel what I felt as the favorite in ‘98. I can’t handle that type of pain ever again.
Agreed, I'll take underdog
It’s better than being overhyped. However, the Vikings and Saints are WAY different teams:
Saints:
- Sort of having a fluke year, been up and down the last couple seasons, players on their roster are playing above their talent, especially their secondary.
- No one thought the Saints would be this good this season, INCLUDING the saints…
- They have a fan base that has really only started actually giving two shits about them since Katrina happened, so like what? 4 years?
- Everyone talks about how much Brees and Payton are in sync the last few seasons.
Vikings:
- Not having a fluke year, they’ve gotten better every season the last few seasons. We have by far more talent on our roster than any other team, and to some extent, we haven’t even played to our full ability. The team gets better and better every week.
- Vikings are not surprised they are this good, the fans knew it, the players knew it, the coaches knew it. When Favre signed, it was destiny. This team KNOWS their role, they have a purpose, they’ve had a purpose for the last 3 years all building to this point in time, they didn’t just plan it this year, they’ve been planning this all decade.
- Vikings fanbase is stronger and more dedicated. They’re part of a trinity of hatred that outlasts the Saints existense.
- Favre + Childress > Brees + Payton Childress has been running this system now the last 3 years in MN, almost a decade in Philadelphia. Favre grew up in this system and knows it in his fucking sleep. He’s got hand signals to WR’s and a cadence that defensive lines can’t handle.
Favre will eat the Saints secondary for breakfast. They’re all focused on the big play interception. The QB has to try and force it, and the secondary is all about jumping routes. Favre can read them like a book, change the play, Touchdown. Superdown, Metrodome, doesn’t matter.
Dude, you could not be more wrong
Please! Saints having a fluke year? No one thought the Saints would be this good this year? Keep right on kidding yourself. Anyone who actually went down to Saints camp before the season started saw that they were improved and much more aggressive on defense. Gruden picked them for the Super Bowl along with the few others not blinded by the return of Tom Brady. And please don’t doubt our fan base. Yes, there’s been some who jumped on the bandwagon in 2006, but most have been loyal, long-suffering fans for decades now.
The answer to the Saints success is simple—better coaching. Sean Payton has had the offense working well for four straight years now. The main problem was the leaky D. Gregg Williams was hired this year to fix that and he has most certainly accomplished that goal. They may not be the best D in the league right now, but they don’t have to be. Plus, Payton saw after last season that he needed a more balanced offensive attack so he put special emphasis on establishing an effective run game with better blocking. This has also paid off.
Fluke? I think not.
"I said this early on that this was a good football team, they just maybe had to have a stick put in certain parts of their body to play a little harder in certain places to where we’re able to take interceptions and score touchdowns."--Gregg Williams
by David "Satch" Kelly on Dec 2, 2009 10:14 AM CST up reply actions
well said
i cant believe the arrogance of cdubs he clearly knows very little about football
by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 2, 2009 7:35 PM CST up reply actions
There Here...
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8062/poltergeist.jpg
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
There Here...
Lets try that again, shall we.
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
They are a fluke
I know nothing about football? Keep telling YOURSELF that…
Fix the leaky D? Stephen Jackson almost single handedly beat you. That game against STL was too close to say you have “fixed” your leaky D. Saints were just a messed up handoff on the goaline away from losing to Carolina at home. That team has been struggling all year and had major problems getting their own offense going, along with Delhomme having all those turnovers, and they almost put a 30 burger on you.
This all doesn’t matter, you can have a great coach, and I agree that Payton is a better coach than Childress, but the Vikings just have too much talent ACROSS THE BOARD. Saints will probably go 16-0, go to the NFC Championship, and then you’ll have your hearts broken when the Vikes steamroll you in the superdome.
Also
Don’t forget the Miami game. I credit your offense for the comeback, but that powerhouse running offense miami had before R Brown went down busted loose your “fixed” leaky defense.
You don’t know what a good rush defense looks like. Go back to the film room and watch some tape. I recommend the Minnesota Vikings Defense 2006 – present. Then come back and talk to me about rush defense.
Get off my blog.
Wow! Such anger in you, young Jedi.
Beware the Dark Side.
I see there’s no point in me explaining why I disagree. Have a nice day. :-)
"I said this early on that this was a good football team, they just maybe had to have a stick put in certain parts of their body to play a little harder in certain places to where we’re able to take interceptions and score touchdowns."--Gregg Williams
by David "Satch" Kelly on Dec 3, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
The Saints' run defense is worse than their pass defense
by medicineball on Dec 2, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
the saints run defense made NE's running backs look like all-pros' in that game
give it a rest……
BTW- Darshiva420 needs to lay off the 420. what a cretin.
I piss people off on a fairly regular basis. I cherish my right to speak my mind, whether I sound like an uneducated savage or not. I've never been accused of keeping what I think a secret, nor will I ever. Don't like it? I don't care.
Really all pro's
We held them under 100 yards rushing
No wonder your so high on your running game if you think 100 yards for a game is all pro material
by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 3, 2009 7:06 AM CST up reply actions
for maroney to get over about 40 is an all pro day for him...
4th highest yardage total of the season so far and 2 touchdowns. you really shut him down.
I piss people off on a fairly regular basis. I cherish my right to speak my mind, whether I sound like an uneducated savage or not. I've never been accused of keeping what I think a secret, nor will I ever. Don't like it? I don't care.
Nobody has gotten more attention than Favre this year.
As a Viking fan I use to have to get NFL Sunday Ticket. This year I have got all the games without it(Sun. Tick), except for the game in Detroit that was blacked out.
Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!
I don't think I would call that attention
Vikings games get picked up because he drives the ratings. Brees is the hot story right now. Even Peyton multiple interceptions along with a 4th quarter comeback are talked about much more.
Updatery? Lol
Its fine Gonzo, it’s not like you entitled to be on here 24/7.
Yea it was pretty fun last nite. Is there anyway you can to do a Roll Call on the threads? lmao they all wanted me to one, but I dont got enough free time to count all the comments and I know you gotta HML or something that does em for yah. Either way Thanks.
Just to name a few things going on last night.
- My Haircut.
- Rady Moss
- Sarcasm
- My Haircut
- Helping me on my Haircut
- Saints
- Why Tom Brady Sucks
- Teaching Purple Jesus how to use pictures. (GOD that was NOT a good idea!) lol
Well those are just the ones I can remember off the top of my head.
Good Luck on your paper Gonzo.
Purple Haze is the worlds greatest Natural Resource.
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Dec 1, 2009 10:15 PM CST reply actions
He's so very, very close to having a unibrow.
What a fantastic haircut.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -Earl Weaver
Mr. Burns has a message for this kid.
Would you please get rid of those side burns.
Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!
You Bastard!
Purple Haze is the worlds greatest Natural Resource.
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Dec 2, 2009 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
HA
It looks like a young Jared Allen.
I don’t care who is the quarterback on sunday for the Cards. Yeah, Warner gets the ball out quick, which is great against a defense like ours. But like last year, our secondary will be jumping those short routes, the initial reads, to get INT’s. We scorched their D last year with T Jackson (his best game of his career) and I believe the Cards will attempt to defend and confuse Favre instead of focusing more on Peterson = a running game that dominates the clock, their souls, and ultimately the score.
SKOL VIKES
Vikes vs. Saints
So if I’m being unbiased and considering the Saints and the Vikes evenly matched teams, then I’ve got the best reason why the Vikes will beat them head to head. We have 5 more games to play in this regular season and there’s no arguing that the Vikes have waaaay better depth all around than the Saints. This battle may come down to who’s hurt when we play each other, and the Vikes clearly have the advantage if we need to plug in a player. Props to the Saints for those clever signings of former pro bowl CBs. Mackenzie played pretty damn well last week.
i dis agree
We have had a lot of injuries in the rams game we were missing 7 starters for the last 4 weeks we have had multiple injuries all who are getting better yet we still dominated the last 2 teams we played 38-7 and 38-17 i clearly see us as the deeper team
by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 2, 2009 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
Hmmmmmm....
Guess the test of your feelings will be when we meet (if both teams make it to the Championship game)….
Remember the last game between these teams….Both are better now than then…Only one can go to the SB….
Maybe after two years Saints will get a chance….IF they can keep it together….Vikings are not a one season hit….they have the core to dominate for a few years right now….
Oh yeah….For this year don’t forget: Our gift to you already has helped you out on the D (Sharper)…Won’t be any more gifts coming your way!
I would rather be IN the Arena than watching from the stands...That is my life!
* Read Teddy Roosevelt's "Man in the Arena" if you need further explanation...
by vikingfanfrom afar on Dec 2, 2009 9:35 PM CST up reply actions
Sharper didn't fit in our system
The Vikings run a deep soft zone Cover 2 defense which relies on NOT giving up the big pass play and also depends on good tackling secondary. Sharper is more of a big play/route jumping corner who plays a “hawk” role and tries to capitalize on QB mistakes. Sharper fits better in the Sains system, he was declining in productivity in the Vikings’ system. Eventhough the Vikes secondary has been questionable in tackling ability in a few games this season, M Williams and T Johnson were acquired mostly for their tackling ability.
Agree
He is a much better fit in NO and has had an outstanding year….
I would rather be IN the Arena than watching from the stands...That is my life!
* Read Teddy Roosevelt's "Man in the Arena" if you need further explanation...
by vikingfanfrom afar on Dec 3, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
Mood killer
I’m a huge Vikings fan, and want to believe they’ll finally win the Super Bowl as much as the next guy, but I have a nagging concern that we haven’t played a single great team this year. In fact, we’ve only played 3 good teams and a bunch of bad ones. Our two games against Green Bay were excellent, don’t get me wrong. They’re a very good team (7-2 when not playing us) and a division rival and we thumped ‘em twice. Great. But we only squeaked by Baltimore (6-5) at home, and we lost against the only other decent team we’ve played, 6-5 Pittsburgh. I guess you could argue that it’s not our fault our schedule’s been easy, but it has me worried that we’re over-hyping our team. We haven’t played a New England or an Indy or a New Orleans.
I guess I’m hoping Warner and Arizona are back to full strength Sunday night so it becomes more of a test. I think we could use a few good tests.
Slackers fans
will tell you that they’re the #1 defense in football and that Arodge is playing at a MVP level. I don’t agree but they think they’re hot uh, stuff.
Steelers
They are great when they have Rothlisberger and Polamalu. When they don’t, they are merely good. The Vikings faced the Super Bowl champs at their best, and almost won. Since then, the Vikings have improved their play in every phase except in rushing offense and kick return coverage.
by medicineball on Dec 2, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
None of that matters
A W is a W and an L is an L. No matter who it comes against. the Vikes are 10-1 that’s all that matters
From the only TRUE North division
by thewild_viking_twins on Dec 2, 2009 5:46 PM CST up reply actions
Schedule
I see people on here talk about how easy or relaxed are schedule has been lets run this down. GB twice. Steelers, Ravens, 49ers(when they looked like they where gonna do something). We still have The Gaints coming to town in week 17. Cinny’s still looming ahead for us. Another game against the Bears in Soldiers Field at that. Oh and AZ this week. That to my count is 5 games that could have gone either way, and 4 that still can. W have played the NFC north number 1 schedule this year, not our fault we have made it look easy at times and a bit hard at others.
by #1 vikings fan in CO on Dec 2, 2009 12:35 PM CST reply actions
SO, to summarize how Chicago did in the second half
offensively:
Drive 1: Bitch slapped
Drive 2: Bitch slapped
Drive 3: Bitch slapped
Drive 4: Bitch slapped
Drive 5: Bitch slapped…wait, there WASN’T a drive five.
Post game: Jay Cutler bitch slaps an NFL Network microphone, gets picked off two more times and is sacked three more.
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
Did you see the shots of Cutler and crew on the sideline
In the fourth quarter. They looked so pitiful, I wanted it to be over.
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