I did say it, in the first sentence :)

All I’m trying to say is that there seems to be a lot of angst here (not just this thread, but the ones about three game sweep difficulty, etc) about a scenario that right now seems VERY unlikely to actually unfold. No one ever lays out exactly how unlikely this happening would be in their fanposts, so I do.

you can think that there’s something more to why i’m saying it, I can’t stop you from imagining that, but that doesn’t make what you imagine true.

That being said, while both Pittsburgh and Arizona are solid teams, the Cardinals dominated the Vikings in every conceivable way so I can understand if peoplelost faith in the Vikings. As for playing the Saints, I wouldn’t buy a ticket to the Superdome yet. I think that the Cowboys are better than the Eagles and if both the Packers and Cowboys win you know what that means…

I have CERTAINLY never ripped on you for visiting Acme. If people are being belligerant to you that’s something I have nothing to do with, I just put the link up essentially to show how Packers fans took the same poll.

But since then, Rice has really come on strong — I don’t know how you could deny that he is at least the equal of any green bay receiver this year, since he currently leads the NFC in yards, and has made some spectacular plays along the way, this all on a team where there are SIX players with 35 or more catches! (i.e. it’s not a “Marvin Harrrison” or “Ochocinco” thing, where he’s the only WR on the team getting the ball). And Harvin has had a lot more impact than most expected at start of season.

So, yeah, Rice is >= Jennings, and Harvin >= Jordy Nelson (seems likethe most natural comparison). And I hope you don’t dispute that even Greg Lewis >= James “Stone Hands” Jones. The only place the Pack has a clear edge is Driver >= Berrian, IMO.

I personally think we’re about average on the o-line now. Tauscher’s return has definitely helped solidify things, and having Clifton healthy has been good too. We seem to do a good job against 3-4 defenses, and ok against 4-3 defenses. Clifton has definitely began to decline but it’s still better having him in there as opposed to our LG or a rookie in Lang.

I believe the Bears had 2 sacks against us and I belive both came on blitzes. Which is good news for us, because in the beginning of the year teams could rush only 3-4 against us and get the amount of pressure you would expect to see when a team blitzes 5-6 guys.

but in the two biggest, pressure packed games of his career, he couldn’t when he had an opportunity

I thought he was fine in our first game against you guys. The 4th and goal pass, which was dropped by Lee was huge. That’s a pass he should have caught and it would have made things much different.

In the second game he wasn’t able to give us the lead when we had the opportunity too, but he still was able to lead a nice drive into your territory. And if we weren’t able to score a TD, like we weren’t, we were still in FG range which would have made it a 2 point game. He has suffered from units around him failing, and did again when Crosby ended up missing that FG. And that’s not too mention that he led us on 2 TD drives prior to the drive that ended in a Crosby miss.

And when you compare his track record to Favre’s, I’ll take my chances with Favre.

I would take Favre too but you have to keep in mind Favre has had 19 years to pile up game winning drives. Rodgers is only in his 2nd year playing. Obviously having 17 more years, and somewhere around 330 games more (just a rough estimation.) has given him many more opportunities to lead us on some of the clutch drives he has in his career.

That game was hardly "put on his shoulders." I watched that game, and I the others (mostly Packer fans) I watched it with did not at all have the feeling at the end that "ooh Rodgers pulled this one out." Not at all.

I didn’t feel at all like oooh Rodgers pulled that one out at the end either but him going down and getting us a TD to make it 24-14 was big. Our defense had dominated the whole first half, but they kind of fell apart in the second half, and the Ravens really had no problems driving on us when they put up those 14 points.

I just think it was big that we scored that TD, because I think back to last year, and if we were in that exact same circumstance we probably go 3 and out and then the defense probably gives up another TD.

I’m sorry but Rodgers game vs. the Ravens isn’t really at all comparable to Favre’s against the Cards. Rodgers threw 2 picks. The one that sailed on him deep, which was just bad ball placement, and the second one was somewhat fluky as it bounced off of Drivers leg straight up into the air into the defenders hands.

Favre’s picks were both just bad throws and reads, and he really could have thrown 2-3 more picks had Wilson caught some of the very pickable (if that’s a word haha) passes that he dropped.

Favre’s two picks were thrown when you guys were down 11 and 14 points, and were thrown on your offense’s first and second possessions of the 3rd quarter. I wouldn’t hardly say that’s out of the game considering a TD on one of those possessions brings you within either 4 points or 7 points, with the at least half of the 3rd quarter and 4th quarter left to play.

We also could take into account that going into that game the Cards were statistically ranked the 29th best pass defense in the league, while the Ravens were statistically ranked the 11th best pass defense in the league. Though them not having Reed makes them much more vulnerable in the passing game. Another thing to think about was Rodgers was playing in 20 degree weather while Favre was playing in 60+ degree weather. Obviously playing in the cold as opposed to playing in warm weather can have a great effect on Qb’s.

We should also keep in mind that 77 of Favre’s passing yards and one of his TD’s came on the Vikes last drive of the game down 30-10, with the Cardinals playing basically just playing with their vanilla schemes.

I don’t think one bit that the Cards game proves that “Favre sucks”. Favre does not suck, and he has made it clear that under the right circumstances he can still play in this league, and do so at a high level. I do think it showed that when teams don’t load up against AP and concentrate on Favre more he has a much harder time. But that is sort of a moot point because there aren’t going to be many games where AP has 13 rushes for 19 yards.

I agree Allen owns whoever our LT is but there are some different things that can be done to slow him down a bit.

Grant has had a couple of good games as of late but I don’t think he would do much if we played again for 2 reasons. The first is because your run defense is very good, and the second is because McCarthy always abandons the run game whenever we’re in close games.

Finley definitely could be the x factor. Since coming back from his injury he has been great. I’d be excited to see whether or not he could exploit some of your LBs or safties.

Favre >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Erin Rodgers