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Will the Vikings soon play their last game at the Dome?


The last Vikings home game of the 2009 regular season is coming up against the New York Giants in Week 17.

Will that be the last Vikings game--or perhaps the last Vikings regular season game--ever played at the Mall of America Field at the Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome? It is very possible. While the Vikings have a lease to play at the Metrodome through the 2011 season, that could change if the Vikings and their landlord agree to change it.

There are hopes that a new stadium agreement and plan could be finalized in 2010. The Vikings, the Minnesota state legislature, and the Metropolitan Sports Facilities Commission (MSFC, the owner of the Metrodome which leases it out to the Vikings) are all very interested in getting the stadium situation resolved. One proposal is racinos. This would allow slot machines at the race tracks. The revenue would pay for a new stadium, plus other state expenses.  The Native American tribes don't like that, though, because they want a monopoly on gambling in Minnesota. The Indian tribes that profit so enormously from gambling in Minnesota have a significant financial interest in seeing that the Vikings get a new stadium, because if they don't, the goodwill they have enjoyed in the Minnesota legislature could turn quite sour. Imagine if the Vikings were forced to move to California primarily because of one special interest group. Lots of legislators would lose their seats to challengers who would not be friendly to Indian tribes' interests. I think everybody will be on board to support a new stadium.

The retractable roof option would create a world-class stadium in Minnesota at a relatively bargain price, at a time of cheap labor, cheap materials, and low interest rates. It would employ many, and spark new growth in the state.

If a new stadium plan were entered into, the Dome could be imploded as soon as winter or spring of 2010. From that point, the new stadium would take about two years to construct. The new stadium would be built on the same site to reuse infrastructure and save money. The Vikings have indicated that, if this scenario were to occur, they would like to lease the TCF Bank Stadium, where the Gophers now play, until they can move into the new stadium.

Furthermore, if this scenario comes true, the Vikings will be playing outdoors next year. With a retractable roof stadium, they will be outdoors in the future quite often.

Recently, the Minnesota Twins celebrated the end of their days at the Metrodome. Twins fans will always  remember "Game 163," the extra-inning tiebreaking thriller that the Twins won at the Metrodome to clinch the Central Division. That was the last regular season Twins game that will ever be played at the Metrodome. Previously, the Twins had many celebrations throughout the year of the Metrodome. They knew well in advance that 2009 would be their last year inside.

Perhaps the Vikings should hold a mini-celebration of their seasons at the Metrodome before or after the Giants game just in case. This could be the last chance to hold that celebration. The Vikings could theoretically hold a celebration during a home playoff game, if the Vikings get one, but everybody would be more focused on the playoffs at that point.

Poll
Will this be the Vikings' last season in the Metrodome, and what should be done about it?
Yes! This is the last season in the Dome! The Vikings should hold a celebration!
4 votes
Yes. This is the last season in the Dome, but there should be no celebration. It's too early to count on a new stadium deal. Don't count your chickens before they hatch.
6 votes
No. The Vikings will play in the Dome in 2010, but the deal will happen later. Celebrate then.
36 votes
No. The Vikings will be forced to leave the State of Minnesota forever. The Vikings should rent out Mayfair moving vans, not rent out TCF Bank Stadium. *Sob
8 votes
Refuse to answer. There should not be any celebration because it could distract the players.
1 votes
I don't know. The Vikings should hold a celebration "in appreciation of the Metrodome," though, just in case.
5 votes

60 votes | Poll has closed

This FanPost was created by a registered user of The Daily Norseman, and does not necessarily reflect the views of the staff of the site. However, since this is a community, that view is no less important.

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Didn't Vote

Didn’t vote, but no, the Vikings are not playing their last season in the Metrodome.

Regardless of what deal is or isn’t reached to keep the franchise in Minnesota, they aren’t going anywhere next year.

by Midnight Rambler on Dec 17, 2009 2:52 PM CST reply actions  

New $870M "No pay plan" stadium proposal by the MSFC

Linky. Retractable roof, 65,000 seats, 148 luxury boxes and could be ready by 2013.

"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp

by less cowbell, more 'neau on Dec 17, 2009 3:21 PM CST reply actions  

65,000?

I would have gone with 68,000 minimum, more like 70,000 like the Vikings proposal. Do they have any plans up to view? Given the lower amont of seats, Im a bit wary of it until further review and I can see why Wilf might be a little aprehensive as well. Deferring judgement till a later date

"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk."
"You men are only risking your lives, while I am risking an almost-certain Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor!"
"We have clearance Clarence. Roger Rodger, what's our vector Victor?"

by VikesFaninNM on Dec 17, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions  

On seating

I agree. there should be 70 -75,000 minimum. More revenue and I think that ,given their performance this year, the loyal fans of the Vikings will show up in droves! At least, I would hope so. And my own personal opinion, I really like the design of the new stadium, especially the retractable roof. Let’s let ’em play in 0 degree weather and some snow, like they used to. i think it would make them tougher. Look back…I think that there is one team with a Super Bowl victory that plays in a dome, the rest play outside.

by purplepride57 on Dec 17, 2009 11:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Eh

Found the plans here “”http://www.msfc.com/tour.cfm" target="new">Metrodome Next". As far as seating, on par with Lucas Oil Field and some of the newere ones. Didnt read in depth on the proposal as of yet, just a quick gleam over so Im not all that sure if seating is expandable. But from what I saw, Im sorry but that is one ugly ass design.

"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk."
"You men are only risking your lives, while I am risking an almost-certain Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor!"
"We have clearance Clarence. Roger Rodger, what's our vector Victor?"

by VikesFaninNM on Dec 17, 2009 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Woops

Let me try the link again

"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk."
"You men are only risking your lives, while I am risking an almost-certain Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor!"
"We have clearance Clarence. Roger Rodger, what's our vector Victor?"

by VikesFaninNM on Dec 17, 2009 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

That's not bad.

I would still prefer a roofless design with a lower price tag that they can actually sell to MN taxpayers though.

"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp

by less cowbell, more 'neau on Dec 17, 2009 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Going topless may happen

As the Vikings still appear to be exploring their own thing around town. Who knows, they may find one of the Burbs to play in and go without a roof. The MSC is the ones who are adiment on a roof. If the Vikes take care of themselves and leave the MSC out of the loop, so be it. Then they can have the Dome all to themselves to do as they please!

"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk."
"You men are only risking your lives, while I am risking an almost-certain Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor!"
"We have clearance Clarence. Roger Rodger, what's our vector Victor?"

by VikesFaninNM on Dec 17, 2009 5:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Retractable roof adds about $200M

A fixed roof adds about $125K. Source: MPR

"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp

by less cowbell, more 'neau on Dec 18, 2009 6:00 PM CST up reply actions  

That's a lot of dough...

I hope if given the opportunity, Ziggy would forgo the roof in order to get the stadium and keep the Vikings in Minnesota.

by EasternVike on Dec 18, 2009 6:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Personally,

I hope Zygi skips the MSFC and builds an open air stadium in the ’burbs.

"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp

by less cowbell, more 'neau on Dec 18, 2009 7:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Kinda been my sentiment as of late

"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk."
"You men are only risking your lives, while I am risking an almost-certain Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor!"
"We have clearance Clarence. Roger Rodger, what's our vector Victor?"

by VikesFaninNM on Dec 18, 2009 8:50 PM CST up reply actions  

in that giant empty lot...

next to IKEA, accross from the MOA.

Isn’t IKEA ‘nordic’? Hmmm… the Mall of America Field at the IKEA-Dome…

I BELIEVE...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Dec 18, 2009 10:14 PM CST up reply actions  

As I said, Topless could happen

He has not made a roof a demand and said dome or open stadium are both welcomed. Its the morons at the Commission that want to keep a dome. I say, let them keep the Metrodome and Wilf and company build a new outdoor stadium somewhere else.

"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk."
"You men are only risking your lives, while I am risking an almost-certain Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor!"
"We have clearance Clarence. Roger Rodger, what's our vector Victor?"

by VikesFaninNM on Dec 18, 2009 8:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Some of us like "Topless".

"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."

by cryhavoc on Dec 19, 2009 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Who doesnt?

As Aerosmith once said……….hehehehehe oooooooooooh

"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk."
"You men are only risking your lives, while I am risking an almost-certain Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor!"
"We have clearance Clarence. Roger Rodger, what's our vector Victor?"

by VikesFaninNM on Dec 19, 2009 2:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Damn that's an ugly stadium

Time for them to go back to the drawing board.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Dec 17, 2009 5:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Vikes are contractually obligated to the Metrodome until 2011

If there is no stadium deal in place by then, they will move.

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Dec 17, 2009 5:53 PM CST reply actions  

*through the 2011 season

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Dec 17, 2009 5:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Vikings have apparently already rejected this plan

Another linky with video.

"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp

by less cowbell, more 'neau on Dec 17, 2009 6:34 PM CST reply actions  

Well

They didn’t reject the plan. They just want a stadium and the MSFC is jerking them around and wasting time.

http://blog.vikings.com/2009/12/17/statement-regarding-msfc-stadium-design-proposal/

by medicineball on Dec 17, 2009 11:30 PM CST up reply actions  

the arch in the center

Reminds me of the St. Louis arch. I have an idea, make it dip down in the center call it double arches stadium and get the money from McD’s for the stadium!

it is better to be thought of as dumb then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Ben Franklin

by montana vikes fan on Dec 19, 2009 11:18 AM CST reply actions  

this may not be as far fetched as it would seem

The corporate head of Mcd’s is from St. Paul she married the old man and took over after he died. Graduated from Humboldt in the late 60’s.

it is better to be thought of as dumb then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Ben Franklin

by montana vikes fan on Dec 19, 2009 11:31 AM CST reply actions  

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