He’s 1-1 this December, blows everything out of proportion now! Just like the post this week…..I hope he bounces back, it’s a travesty, were all gonna die! The world is about to implode, dog’s and cats living together, mass hysteria!!!! (Note Sarcasm) ;-)

While I had my concerns at the start of the season, he has worked out nicely and other then a few gaffs, who hasn’t had them, he has played smart and even keeled. He was a little shaky at the start against Cincy, by the end of the game, looked back to his ’09 season form.

I’m waiting for some of our friends in Packerville to come and say how he is gonna choke in the playoffs, how he wont hold up to the pressure though he took them to 2 Super Bowls. And if we do make it there and finally win the Super Bowl, I would give them about 5 seconds after the game to come in here telling us it was a fluke, their Championship team was far superior or we still need to win 2 more to be as “good” as they were. I’m just pointing out the minority who do this as the majority have been civil and easy to chat with.

you heretic. :)

You obviously haven’t gotten the memo that Favre sucks. And you call yourself a blogger, lol.

Next time, could you not use facts and logic?

We still gotta worry about that “schism” in the locker room! I hear half the team still wants TJack to be QB! (sarcasm)

…I still can’t listen to Afam “Schism” Schefter on ESPN to this day!

of some people!!!! You have to stop using facts and logic. I will not be responsible for the massive explosion of cheese heads all over Wisconsin.!!!!!! Count me out of all the clean up. I warned you!!!

Just seems that some “fans” are waiting for failure….When the Vikings lose a game, whether this year or next, they can say “I told you so.” I, on the other hand, will be enjoying whatever this team puts together….This is their mantra…

Favre performance is a good example…no matter what you say/write, they are waiting for a fail…and will pounce if it happens….Shame because rather than seeing the spot we are in (11-2?? Come on, there is gloom???) this season, they are nit-picking and looking for any criticism they can throw out there to get SOME enjoyment in regards to their mindset (fail fail fail they will eventually)…

Oh well….

SKOL!

That it wasn’t his win/loss that faded so much as his stats and play. That his teams were winning late in the year despite his poor play as opposed to because of it.

I’m a Favre supporter, of course, just playing Devil’s Advocate. I don’t have the stats on hand and am about to run out the door, but that was the impression I was under.

hip, hip, hooray. hip, hip, hooray. hip, hip, hooray. Gonzo the sound of reason.

ps Banned any body who does not agree with you. “joking”

I for one am tired of having to defend and apologize for the guy. Those caught up in the 24 hour news cycle hype can debate the issue regardless of the facts. Nothing is gained by tearing Favre down. Aside from Packer fans, no one has should enjoy the anticipation of Favre’s ever-pending downfall.

… but a look at the December W/L records of the teams he’s played for sure as hell doesn’t prove it one way or the other. I’m not expecting you to go all Football Outsiders on this site, but come on. You’re better than this, Gonzo, and so is your website.

Way better.

I wrote more or less the same thing and posted it here at DN in July.

So maybe it’s more having an audience being receptive to the message, and willing to listen to it, more than it being “something that nobody’s willing to talk about!”

If I remember correctly, both starting tackles for Carolina are on IR. Should make for an interesting day for Jared Allen fans like me.

A more appropriate set of comparisons would be to analyze his September – November average QB rating, yards, TD’s and Completion % against their December average counterparts.

Having said that, many would agree with Gonzo’s presumption that team wins mean more than individual stats and lord knows talking heads and coaches are always talking about that ever elusive immeasurable about being a “winner” in crunch time vs. a big stat producer.

People have accused him of late season slides because of his TD:INT ratio, along with some other Qb stats. Yes, all that matters is whether or not you win the game, I know. Just telling you why people accuse him of sliding late in the season, and if you look at the statistics there is no arguing against this.

And I’ve seen a lot about how GB fans have made a big deal about his late season woes this past decade but we’re not the only ones. Before Favre became a Viking, DN was split 50-50 on whether or not they wanted Favre, and many of the Vikings fans on this blog who didn’t want Favre presented the argument that he struggled late in the year.

And a lot of GB fans complained about Favre’s late season struggles far before this year. Many of us watched Favre Qb our team from 2000-07, and watched him struggle at the end of the season pretty much every one of these years. Please don’t trick yourselves into thinking that the only reason his late season struggles are being brought up is because he is now a Viking. Packer’s fans talked about this issue far before this year.

first you’ve included 2000 through 2003 which not only was favre 31 through 34 (which as we discussed here is the peak age for a skilled qb) but those were also the last years favre actually wanted to play and participated in the offseason.

second, everyone whose actually looked at the stats knows that favre’s ‘fades’ began in the 2004 season. favre isn’t the same qb he was in his early 30’s and he hasn’t been for some time. notice how there’s only 1 4-win stat in the last 5 years you posted? that means something

you can try to argue with this, but you’ll have to have something heavy to argue with:

2004 rating through first 11 games – 96.76
65.82% through first 11
22td 11int
2004 rating through last 5 games – 90.1
61.66% through last 5
8td 6int
7-4 first 11, 3-2 last 5
55.4 rating in 1 playoff game with 1td 4int in a loss

2005 rating through first 11 games – 81.84
63.35% through first 11
19td 19int
2005 rating through last 5 games – 55
57.00% through last 5
1td 10int
2-9 first 11, 2-3 last 5

2006 rating through first 11 games – 76.96
56.12% through first 11
14td 10int
2006 rating through last 5 games – 63.98
54.38% through last 5
4td 8int
4-7 first 11, 4-1 last 5

2007 rating through first 11 games – 102.62
68.85% through first 11
22td 8int
2007 rating through last 5 games – 77.8
59.82% through last 11
6td 7int
10-1 first 11, 3-2 last 5
137.6 rating in 1st playoff game with 3td and 0int in a win
70.7 rating in 2nd playoff game with 2td and 2int in a loss

2008 rating through first 11 games – 94.53
70.82% through first 11
20td 13int
2008 rating through last 5 games – 55.38
56.56% through last 5
2td 9int
8-3 first 11, 1-4 last 5

2009 rating through first 11 games – 112.95
70.85% through first 11
24td 3int
2009 rating through last 3 games – 75.43
62.13% through last 3
3td 4int
10-1 first 11, 1-2 last 3

you can blame these numbers on the surrounding talent, or the coaching, or the quality of defenses, or an injury, or the phase of the moon in december. in a few of these game you may even be right. but this is too consistent over too many games in too many seasons for me to blame anyone but favre. and it’s happening again this year, imagine that. or is that the vikings fault but not favre?

http://www.nfl.com/players/brettfavre/gamelogs?id=FAV540222&season=2009

I think that a couple of the GB squads were as good (or even better) that the Vikings this year. Still too early to tell. Vikes have a great record, but the season isn’t over yet. I hope that Brett gets the ring, but until they do, the 2007 Packers were better. Hit me!!!!!