Slow Start, Late Mistakes Cost Vikings
by Anthony21 on Dec 28, 2009 11:05 PM CST
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The start was horrendous. The comeback was magnificent. The ending cost the Vikings a chance at the top seed in the NFC and could result in them not even getting the benefit of a first round bye. After an exhausting night that required an extra session, that's what we're left with. I've got a complete recap on the way.
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Wow
What an exausting game to watch.
Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.
by craig in calgary on Dec 28, 2009 11:07 PM CST reply actions
Is it me...
or was AD facemasked pretty hard on the fumble?
it's not you
again with the refs. if nobody saw the facemask AP took on that play, they’re blind. again with the refs
the hit he took on the sidelines was about as bad as most of the garbage those refs miscalled. well they can’t fine me. they are the worst group I’ve seen this year.
by marlboroman56 on Dec 28, 2009 11:25 PM CST up reply actions
Tuck the ball
While I find vikefansd’s desire to trade AD laughable, someone has to convince Peterson to keep the ball tucked into his body. Whenever he changes direction he swings his arms away from his body. It may help him get some extra yards but it leaves the ball in a vulnerable position and needs to be corrected yesterday.
A good coach makes his team better, he doesn’t wait for a better team to make him look good.
This is what i am tralking about
I do not want to trade him. But when he fumble like that it take the steem out of the team. We all know that football is a game of momentum. Tikki Barber, Emmit Smith. Both have change their game to secure the ball.
Vikings fans are hilarious.
Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.
by craig in calgary on Dec 28, 2009 11:10 PM CST up reply actions
Trade the best player in the league?
Really?
Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.
by craig in calgary on Dec 28, 2009 11:32 PM CST up reply actions
+28
I’m not sure what vikefansd is smoking, but someone needs to smack some sense in to him.
by EasternVike on Dec 28, 2009 11:43 PM CST up reply actions
I'm a Viking fan but
Chris Johson is not dismissed. With AP’s ups and downs along with his fumbling issues Chris Johnson is the best RB in the league.
Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!
The vikes are nothing without AD two TD’s and almost 100 on the ground you would be foolish to trade him for his fumble issues, do you really think we can pass without 8 in the box?
How many time can we put up with his fumbling
I don’t know about you. As a player when someone make critical mistake that could decided the game like that it take the hearts out of you. That is just me. Mistake is ok. Habitual mistake is not good.
So should we trade
Kluwe- Botched the snap
Winfield- Let i have no clue to what his name was get the TD
Leber- He Dropped 2 interceptions
Loadholt- Let Favre get sacked
Berrian- Dropped a Pass when he was wide open that would have converted on third down
Favre- Bad Pass to Berrian that would have been a TD
Our Kickoff unit- Let the Bears average like 30 yards a return
McKinnie- Didnt give Favre enough time.
"A bad day over here is better than a good day over there"~ Jared "The Mullet" Allen
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Dec 28, 2009 11:39 PM CST up reply actions
Haha
Just think how much cap room you'd save!
Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.
by craig in calgary on Dec 28, 2009 11:40 PM CST up reply actions
Oh heck yea and wed have postitions to fill in the draft too!!!
"A bad day over here is better than a good day over there"~ Jared "The Mullet" Allen
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Dec 28, 2009 11:41 PM CST up reply actions
percy i like you
you know that is not what i meant. If we do it now we can get alot for him. If we wait w might not get as much. fumbling is a mental not physical. physical is ok. You just not as talented. Mental error you can control. I do not have the best gammar in the world. But when i type something for you guy i really try. That why sometime it take me so long to type something. He is running. In overtime he should know the most important thing is protect the ball. Remember Emmit Smith.
Dude I wasnt knocking your grammar or anything
What I was trying to say is Adrian did NOT cost us that game. All of the other things that I listed above did.
I think the problem here as to why people are blaming Adrian is his fumble was the last thing we remember. Lets think if our TD would have came at the end of the game and Kluwe botched the hold there. We would all be blaming Kluwe
But to say “Trade Adrian” is for lack of a better term and I’m sorry to say this to you cuz you’re a cool person but it’s stupid. What could we possibly get in return that compares to the skill set that Adrian brings? He also is a phenomanal community man and is always smiling. That right there is the face of a Franchise.
The Vikings are not the Timberwolves we arent and will not going to trade Adrian anytime soon because as much I love Percy I would rather see Percy get traded then Adrian. If they trade Adrian all hell will break lose.
"A bad day over here is better than a good day over there"~ Jared "The Mullet" Allen
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Dec 29, 2009 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
I don't mind you correcting my grammar
I know it is not that good. But i try. To tell you the truth i do not see him trying to protect the ball. Last year and this years he is too talented to be so reckless with the ball.
Nah dude we all got grammar problems
and I’d be being a dick if i did that. And ya your right about him being a reckless because he is but in his defense he was facemasked on that fumble.
Now think as to how many games he has actually cost us???
"A bad day over here is better than a good day over there"~ Jared "The Mullet" Allen
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Dec 29, 2009 11:43 PM CST up reply actions
He have to have a feeling
If he fumble he will let down the team. If he have that feeling. I think he will fix it. Bud Grant use to say big play change game. If you look back at all the game any team have lost. you will see That Big play are game changer. Fumble is one of the game changer That is all. If you ask me do i want to trade him. NO!!! But If he can protect the ball Then i would put the team before AD. That is all. If we do it now we can get a premium price for him. We might even get someone comparable to him. Dallas rebuilt the team with the trade of Hershel Walker. I am not saying give him away. I am mad. I am definitely not stupid.
About grammar man i like it
I learn more when you guy correct me. Not a problem dude. I am not perfect. But i try. A philosopher once said “When i stop learning i have stop living”
Get the hell out of here FAKE vikefansd
AD played great overall; Favre fumbled costing points, and the D and special teams were to blame.
Missed extra point?!? 2 HUGE kickoff returns? WTF?
Peterson ran HARD and gave the Vikes balance. Yes, he messed up and should be held accountable, but get the hell out of here with that “trade him” BS.
Well one good thing is that the number one seed has ended up being a curse in the past years
so not getting it may play out as a good thing for the Vikings.
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Dec 28, 2009 11:11 PM CST reply actions
You have to dig that hole pretty deep
To find anything positive about this game..
Now I will say it was a great game to watch. Unnerving! And the amount of crap talked back and forth at the bar was awe inspiring.
I will state this. it was a team loss but in the end I blame the offense. How many three and outs did they have in the first half? To darn many for sure. It’s just painful to watch it. So yes I do blame Brett Favre and AD. They are the difference makers and they cannot go out there and suck it up that bad week in and week out.
Seriously three and outs are getting to be the norm on offense.
Curse yeah right
How about being cursed from the start. Every time I think the Vikes are going to do something it always ends with a loss. It was a great game tonight and it doesn’t mean our season is over but if I was a betting man I would bet everything I own that the Vikes will not win the Superbowl. Its so frustrating. I’ll keep rooting for them like I always have. I just get that feeling in my gut that its going to turn out like so many other seasons. We still might luck out and get the #2 seed but the way they have been playing as of late what difference is it going to make. Maybe they will surprise me. I hope they do, but losing to a Bears team that they are clearly better than doesn’t bode well for their future. They have had several opportunities to wrap this thing up and they just keep losing. What makes anyone think that they will do any better in the playoffs?
Yeah...
That whole “let’s play at home thing” is a real big disadvantage, especially for a team like the Vikings that plays so much better on the road…
Oh, wait…
Chilly didn't lose this game
We sucked in the first half and when we ralled our defense let us down. We were lucky that it even got to overtime. We have a good team but I’m afraid we are going to fall short once again.
It’s nothing new for a Vikings fan. We always have been a competitive team but we never seem to get over the hump. I’m not giving up on my Vikes but if they end up one & done in the playoffs
I won’t be to upset. I hope they can get it done but over the years it just gets old. What do we have like 25 playoff appearances. The law of averages has run out. I just keep getting tired of wait till next year. We have bashed the Bears & Pack plenty this year but at least they have a Championship.
Daaaa Bears!
That was an awesome game. You guys are definately a better team than us. We just got really lucky on some of those plays.
Luck, yes...
But it wasn’t all luck.
There were lots of places where the “vastly superior” player got outplayed.
Lets just look at one… Allen had two tackles and zero sacks, playing against Chris Williams, a guy starting his third game ever at left tackle. Williams, a first round draft pick who missed almost all of last year and played right tackle until a few weeks ago, should have been a speed bump on Allen’s way to Cutler. Was he? Obviously not.
The Vikes entire secondary was outplayed by Devin Aromashodu, a guy who the Bears activated about 3 weeks ago… This guy isn’t Randy Moss, Larry Fitzjerald or Andre Johnson here… this is Devin Aromashodu…
The Bears outplayed the Vikes in every way shape and form for the first half, and took the ball right down the field three times in the fourth quarter and overtime, with “inferior” players.
I think what it showed isn’t so much that the Vikes were bad, but rather how seriously Chicago has underperformed its talent level all season.
I don't know about that
Minnesota was supposed to be a marue team. I think it’s safe to say that no one thinks that now. Not even on this site. We need to toss Bevel Childress is here for a whiel but out OC needs to go. There were a lot of plays out there that could have been mapped out better. And really this offense is MUCH better than what they’ve been showing the last couple of weeks.
arena league
As long as the Vikes play in the dome they will be weak on the road. They need to practice outside with a frozen ball.
That would help!
man… sure wish we’d gotten that to go our way on the last drive… dang!
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Dec 28, 2009 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
After the first half
I was thinking our Norsemen do not understand the cold, and they should be sent farther North until they do.
If you give a man a match he will be warm for a moment. Set him alight
and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
by Mr. Underfoot on Dec 29, 2009 12:06 AM CST up reply actions
Game-like conditions
You always hear teams pumping in crowd noise during practice. How about pumping in a little cold air?
I said last week that they should practice all week outside.
A lot of people would surely disagree but I think it would have been an entirely different game had we done that.
next week, thats it just wait 1 more week
we can criticize the saints for loosing to the bucs, but our loss was a little more pathetic
The Saints loss at home to the Bucs is indeed more pathetic.
Not that it takes any of the sting out of our loss though.
by EasternVike on Dec 28, 2009 11:26 PM CST up reply actions
what do you call the second half comeback then
"So [Kouzmanoff]’s going to make decent monkey, but he’d be affordable." - Jesse
by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Dec 28, 2009 11:23 PM CST up reply actions
Dude
You aren’t even a fair weather fan…. how sad.
11-4 and your team SUCKS?
What on earth is wrong inside that head of yours?
4-11… YES, your team would suck. Not 11-4.
Hate to see what hed say if his team was the Browns. :/
"A bad day over here is better than a good day over there"~ Jared "The Mullet" Allen
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Dec 28, 2009 11:40 PM CST up reply actions
He wouldn't have been on here
Browns fans can’t read.
lmao haha
"A bad day over here is better than a good day over there"~ Jared "The Mullet" Allen
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Dec 29, 2009 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
I've been a vikes fan for 38 years... through more foul weather than most of you.
I watched all four SB losses… the Darren Nelson 4th down drop in Washington, Gary Anderson’s kick sailing wide left…
1-3 in the last 4 weeks = suck. 5-6 Quarters without scoring = suck. Failing to capitalize when a 5-9 team surrenders the lead late in 4th Qtr = suck. I really thought we would show up for this game, but instead we sucked hard. I’m still a fan and I’ll shout at the TV until the final whistle blows but I’ll call it like I see it and if you don’t like it you don’t have to read it.
I'm with you
This is getting old. Another season down the drain.
Dear Mr. Peterson
Over the last few years you’ve been a great player for my football team, brought many great memories and happiness, and help us win a lot of games. Your talent far exceeds any player I’ve ever watched on film or in person.
However, you are not above the game of football, or your team. Your ego has stepped in the way of your excellence and at this point you are not a hall of fame caliber player. Your decisions to fight for extra “meaningless” yards while puting the team’s success in jeopardy is plain overplayed. Start puting your team in front of your ego and your highlight reel. Not only do you risk puting yourself in situations where you are a target for defenders to strip the ball, but you also risk injury in a league that grows more dangerous by the quarter.
It’s would be only justice for you to sit at least a half of the next game, as well as receive a fair amount of “boos” at home vs the Giants next week. I hope the coach has the balls to do what’s right, as well as the fans. Maybe then will you realize your place on this team: Behind it, not in front of it.
huh
I don’t think Peterson fumbling the ball has anything to do with his ego. Tough loss, heartbreaking loss. But calling for the home fans to boo him is pathetic.
So what
they’re 53 other player that have feeling too. How can you not protect the ball. When Emmit Smith had his problem he made adjustment in his game. although he would not gain more yards. i notice when guy get to him he would cover up with two hands. Then they try to rip the ball out. As they try and miss he would gain more yards that way. AD should cover up with two hands. That is it. No more disregard for the team.
He certainly should cover the ball with two hands
but I don’t think this is an issue of selfishness, it is an issue of wisdom. Sometimes fighting through those tackles is what leads to his great plays. Should he not ever try to break tackles? If he stops trying to be AD, he won’t be AD anymore. This fumble tonight was ill-timed, to be sure, but I can’t blame AD too much for it. It just happened.
by Princely Frank on Dec 29, 2009 12:19 AM CST up reply actions
In my own defense
this isn’t the first effing fumble peterson has had in his career, or this season. THIS IS NOT A FLUKE. This is something he’s been constantly warned about his ENTIRE NFL CAREER. At this point, it’s not an issue of wisdom, it’s an issue of decision, and Peterson is CHOOSING not to protect the football, risking the posession, and the game, by his choice to fight for a few extra yards beyond a first down. It’s not like Peterson is the whole offense anymore, you have a guy who just threw like 300 yards in the 2nd half! If he’s a team player, he will decide to protect the football. He seems intelligent, I’m sure he can do anything he sets his mind to. The fact of the matter is he’s not choosing to do it.
Yeah!!
Not like he’s been fumbling the ball at a rapid pace for a while now and finally cost us a victory with his little stunt.
Oh, wait….
+1
Agreed.
If you were watching this game you didn’t SMELL an AD fumble coming on that play, then you’re not a vikings fan and you don’t watch enough football…
the bears were grabbing for the ball...
ALL GAME LONG.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Dec 29, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
What "stunt" are you referring to?
Because all I saw was AP getting tackled and a nice punch out by the Bears defender. Unfortunate play, but AP wasn’t pulling any stunts.
by EasternVike on Dec 28, 2009 11:28 PM CST up reply actions
Not saying it was done on purpose...
Or that it was NEAR as bad as some of his prior fumbles.
I’ll certainly say that he has made progress holding onto the to ball and has improved in that respect over the course of the season.
BUT… this isn’t something new. Luckily they haven’t cost the team before this.
I guess when he had such a superhuman second half, I also expected him to have superhuman strength holding onto the ball on his way down….
Hillenmeyer
Give credit to where it is due. Hunter made a play. LOTS of guys would have fumbled that ball.
B.S.
Disclaimer: I am drunk after watching this horrid game.
And I know this won’t get read being so late in the night, and I prolly won’t read any replies, but…..
AD: HOLD ON TO THE F’NG BALL. I’m sorry, “great” play by thr D or otherwise, AD had the first down but decided to run for extra yards instread of going out of bounds in OT. IMO, he cost us the game.
I love AD. I have a total man-crush on AD. But GD it, he fumbles way to f’ng much.
-j
by JasonAve6413 on Dec 29, 2009 12:05 AM CST up reply actions
It wasn't like AP was stood up refusing to go down...
the guy that tackled him punched it out while tackling him. Hillenmeyer just made a great play. AP wasn’t fighting for extra yards, he was just running the ball.
by EasternVike on Dec 29, 2009 12:12 AM CST up reply actions
Sorry,,,
it looked to me in the replay like he could’ve just run out of bounds instead of driving forward trying to knock over people. Trust me, I LOVE it when he runs over defenders, but in OT, and when you have the 1st down, don’t go for extra yards, run out of bounds. You’re paid milllions to do that. DO IT.
by JasonAve6413 on Dec 29, 2009 12:27 AM CST up reply actions
Especially
When Favre throws for 300 yards in the 2nd half alone and is on fire. Let Favre march the ball downfield. Smart players know this. There’s plenty of RB’s in the league that get as many carries as AD and don’t lose the rock. Fumbles are the RB’s responsibility, no one elses.
Also, they brag about peterson’s handshake being so damn strong, well if it’s so strong then he should have no problems holding onto a football.
The kid is the heart and soul of the team
He does need to fix this. Period. But this isn’t about ego, it’s about technique.
AD 28 All Day.
fumble...
in his defense, that fumble was a perfect (and lucky) punch out…i’d say special teams and our secondary, particularly winfield cost us this game….his coverage is pathetic
"Somewhere in Minnesota, a child becomes a Vikings fan and wonders if they will win a Super Bowl in their lifetime"
by Skol!dTimer on Dec 28, 2009 11:37 PM CST up reply actions
Winfield played bizaarly poorly.
Uncharacteristic and depressing. Especially after he got beat several times last week. Is it time to move Winfield to safety? Or put him on the slot receiver?
We need to draft another corner this year. Our pass coverage is the team’s weakest link, right now.
by Princely Frank on Dec 29, 2009 12:21 AM CST up reply actions
It's the defensive call
We’re a tampa 2 coverage, but on the plays winfield got beat we only had single safety high because we were blitzing on first down??
That game needed a case of 6 DB’s to pick off one of Cutler’s many terrible passes. Not 8 man blitz package…
well...
how will the spin be made… to make this a Favre fade?
26/40 321yds, 2 TD 0 INT
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Dec 28, 2009 11:20 PM CST reply actions
Favre had an excellent game. Too bad his protection was terrible in the first half.
by EasternVike on Dec 28, 2009 11:21 PM CST up reply actions
I agree...
but some see everything as Favre’s fault.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Dec 28, 2009 11:22 PM CST up reply actions
Nothing in teh first half
That’s the spin. NOTHING IN THE FIRST HALF!
Ok seriously how can you play that poorly in the first half? It wasn’t just Favre sucking it up but he was a definite issue. I want to kick Bevel up and down the field and shove Chilly’s head into a wood chipper, but i think he would break my wood chippper.
Better loss than last week.
At least we showed some fire instead of rolling over and taking it.
by Princely Frank on Dec 29, 2009 12:22 AM CST up reply actions
yep!
It’s not over yet…
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Dec 28, 2009 11:24 PM CST up reply actions
Ok yeah our season isn't over...
but I’m having a hard time believing we have the complete package to capture lightning in a bottle like Arizona did last year. Our D actually looks worse than I’ve seen them in years…
we miss EJ for sure...
but each game is experience for our replacements.
It’s not a great situation, but it’s not the end either.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Dec 28, 2009 11:28 PM CST up reply actions
WTF!!!!???
Did Vikant just say something positive!!!!???
OMG I think the sky is really falling, everybody look up
"A bad day over here is better than a good day over there"~ Jared "The Mullet" Allen
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Dec 28, 2009 11:43 PM CST up reply actions
My first thought was someone hacked his account, lol
by EasternVike on Dec 29, 2009 12:13 AM CST up reply actions
Haha i bet you R4F did
No wait cuz then itd be filled with all this hoohah about how Favre is the greatest ever.
It musta bin our boy Arizona. GOod Job Arizona
"A bad day over here is better than a good day over there"~ Jared "The Mullet" Allen
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Dec 29, 2009 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
i agree w/cdubs...
…in that when AP fights for extra yards he loses the ball all too often. it wasn’t the 2nd quarter or 3rd quarter. OT dammit! take the damn first down and be happy with it. christ! waiting to see who’s gonna pin this lose on Favre.
something just didnt look right with winfield
it was as if he was always a step behind everything. un-winfield like for sure. don’t know if its still the ankle that’s affecting him or what it is
He needed help on those plays
That’s not the Winfield we know. Maybe he should just be a backup for the rest of the year. He isn’t the same.
by medicineball on Dec 28, 2009 11:51 PM CST up reply actions
What does this mean for the 2 seed?
You need to win vs the Giants and have Phili lose vs Dallas?
Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.
by craig in calgary on Dec 28, 2009 11:33 PM CST reply actions
Need a Dallas win and a win versus Giants
by EasternVike on Dec 28, 2009 11:34 PM CST up reply actions
Both very doable
NYG have mailed it in, and Dallas is playing really well
Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.
by craig in calgary on Dec 28, 2009 11:36 PM CST up reply actions
I'm Sorry, But...
…anyone catch the date of today’s—yesterday’s—game?
December 28.
It’s been exactly six years since Nate Poole.
OMG Worst day Of my life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK3CrCIV1XI
I loved listening to PA though.
That was the worst I’ve ever felt after a loss. I remember Birk just sitting on the field with his head down
"A bad day over here is better than a good day over there"~ Jared "The Mullet" Allen
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Dec 28, 2009 11:46 PM CST up reply actions
Game over
I was right from the beginning. We are done. Went the Moon, Cunningham, Favre route, and here we go. Childress is a D…… I’m a Vikingsfan win or lose, but this is not football it is soap opera. Don’t bother looking on the bright side, it’s all BS. Until we get real coaching, we are done. Solt, Vikes!!
Can i die now?
Why Do People Question The Vikings' Status?
by UnBannedVikingholic on Dec 28, 2009 11:43 PM CST reply actions
Wait until Dec 23, 2012. I guarantee death. ;-)
FIRE JIM MORA NOW!
by SSreporters on Dec 28, 2009 11:43 PM CST up reply actions
Only a superbowl can continue life!
Why Do People Question The Vikings' Status?
by UnBannedVikingholic on Dec 28, 2009 11:44 PM CST up reply actions
Who's ready to jump off of the ship into the sea with me behind Brad Childress?
Why Do People Question The Vikings' Status?
by UnBannedVikingholic on Dec 28, 2009 11:46 PM CST reply actions
I'll always be a fan not talking fan wise!
Why Do People Question The Vikings' Status?
by UnBannedVikingholic on Dec 28, 2009 11:46 PM CST up reply actions
I'm trying to visualize this...
You’re making Chilly walk the plank?
If you give a man a match he will be warm for a moment. Set him alight
and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
by Mr. Underfoot on Dec 29, 2009 12:12 AM CST up reply actions
Keep in mind, we are 11-4 and have our division clinched
A lot of teams would kill to be in our position
"So [Kouzmanoff]’s going to make decent monkey, but he’d be affordable." - Jesse
by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Dec 28, 2009 11:46 PM CST reply actions
still...
it’d be awfully nice to have to play boys/eagles/cardinals/packers in the 2nd round instead of the first.
the matchup of two broken teams next week… let’s hope hope HOPE that we can pull one out versus the Giants and Dallas can beat Philly.
Thats old
We brought that up last week! Just know we can’t lose no more period this season and postseason!
Why Do People Question The Vikings' Status?
by UnBannedVikingholic on Dec 28, 2009 11:49 PM CST up reply actions
DISAPPOINMENT
Peterson is becoming a bitter dissappoinment, so has Barrian, I do not understand how this season has become a typical Minnesota choke with the additions that have been made to he team, Peterson, Farve, Harvin, Allen the “Four Norsemen”. First, Childress received a contract extension way too early. Second, Barrian can not catch a ball when we need it. Third, I can not hoot and holler when Peterson has the ball out of fear that he will drop it and this game proves it. Minnesota is not the team to make it throuhg the play-offs given what I have seen the last few weeks. I am a fan, but also live in the real world, highly disappintan ted and afrain to watch Minnesota fail against the Giants. Unfornatley I do not believe we will go far in the play-offs, PROVE ME WRONG.
The Four Norseman....
Have gone magician, doing their best disappearing act. Candy Ass Cutler’s jersey should’ve been green after this game. “vaunted” defense? NOT.
by JasonAve6413 on Dec 29, 2009 12:16 AM CST up reply actions
Injuries
I hope Shiancoe wasn’t too badly hurt, but he didn’t return to the game. ESPN didn’t even show the play in how he got hurt.
Favre might have suffered a mild concussion when he took that huge shot in overtime during the failed screen pass. If so, he should have come out of the game at that point. He looked mentally slow and confused from that point on through the next few plays. He is so stubborn, he would never tap out, but maybe he should have.
AD. My man. We love you, but please just step out of bounds on those from now on.
I hope
Favre and Peterson were OK. Both took big hits on that play.
by medicineball on Dec 29, 2009 12:09 AM CST up reply actions
There is hope....
The 2008 Arizona Cardinals finished 2-3 and were written off in the NFC. They were beat late in the season, handily, by the Favre-less Vikings. Then, a veteran quarterback already given up on twice (or was it three times) in his career, leads them to within a hair of their first Superbowl. And with less weapons and a weaker defense than these Vikings.
Did someone drop the F-bomb today?
and get Banned from the thread!
Why Do People Question The Vikings' Status?
by UnBannedVikingholic on Dec 28, 2009 11:51 PM CST up reply actions
That is the only thing I am hanging on to.
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have"
Thomas Jefferson
by RileysCannibalJct on Dec 28, 2009 11:52 PM CST up reply actions
2nd half momentum
Didn’t win against the pathetic Bears, but Favre looked confident once they opened it up.
Childress may see the light and live and die with Favre…not a bad bet if they can play in the dome. Could be tough on the road.
Not sure how you lose to Chicago…they are a bad team.
clear facemask on peterson on the fumble.
once again, we get jobbed
No excuses, he lost the ball
Chester should’ve been in in that situation!
Why Do People Question The Vikings' Status?
by UnBannedVikingholic on Dec 28, 2009 11:52 PM CST up reply actions
dude his face was twisted when he fumbled, thats just a fact.
by los vikingos on Dec 28, 2009 11:54 PM CST up reply actions
Really didn't effect the fumble though!
Why Do People Question The Vikings' Status?
by UnBannedVikingholic on Dec 28, 2009 11:55 PM CST up reply actions
Really?
I wasn’t looking for that. Sidney Rice got mugged earlier and no PI was called.
by medicineball on Dec 28, 2009 11:52 PM CST up reply actions
The refs were Bears fans today
Call after call went their way.
by medicineball on Dec 28, 2009 11:55 PM CST up reply actions
nah
I thought the game was fairly officiated. There were one or two calls that could have gone either way, but that could be said about any game. I liked how they let the guys play and didn’t call anything that wasn’t blatantly obvious.
Guess me and you weren't watching the same game then...
The refs were pretty much absent the entire game and missed quite a few blantant penalities.
The worst was the blantatly obivous missed block in the back on the kickoff return in the third quarter that gave the bears excellent starting field position. Then there was the missed pass interefernce on Rice where he was pushed in the back before the ball got to him that would have given the vikes a critical first down.
In fairness to the Bears though, there was one play that the guy was driven back 15 yards and tackled after the whistle that I couldn’t believe wasn’t a personal foul.
by EasternVike on Dec 29, 2009 12:23 AM CST up reply actions
The worst was the blantatly obivous missed block in the back on the kickoff return in the third quarter that gave the bears excellent starting field position.
I saw that as well, but to me (and i could be wrong) it looked like the viking player was engaged then turned his back towards him while running. I don’t know if that should’ve been called as a block in the back or not, but there were missed penalties on both sides you have to admit.
Price Check on aisle BOOM.
by Ditkavsworld on Dec 29, 2009 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
I heard Tirico mention it, but I don’t remember whether or not the announcers elaborated on it a bit more or no. There are always penalties missed in games. Unforunately for the NFL, nobody is perfect and can be looking at 5 different things at once. Tillman definitely hit Rice early one play, and I saw Loadholt hold guys on a few plays.
by packallday555 on Dec 29, 2009 5:19 PM CST up reply actions
i am sick
but valiant comeback.
bench winfield next week
bench peterson for one half next week,
I'm a little upset
We are vikings fans. We support them with our money, and feel the pain. This loss was an insult to all of us. It shows the BS with the team is coming before the Super Bowl drive. I am hoping they move so I can let them go. Man I’m pissed! What a BS effort. Someone talk me down!!
We actually didn't pay as much money since the game was on the road!
Why Do People Question The Vikings' Status?
by UnBannedVikingholic on Dec 28, 2009 11:54 PM CST up reply actions
Let them Move?
WTH wrong with you?
Why Do People Question The Vikings' Status?
by UnBannedVikingholic on Dec 28, 2009 11:54 PM CST up reply actions
I think I speak for all of us here
when I say I hope you move. Did you forget that you’re Vikings have:
-Beat the Pukers Twice
-Had one of the greatest TD’s of all time against the 9ers
-Went toe-2-toe with the defending Champs
-Stopped the Ravens Mojo
- Beat the AFC North Champion who beat the Steelers and Ravens Twice
- We also have won the NFC North
- Back-2-Back 10+ win seasons
- Have improved every year by 2 wins will probably continue that
- Have the best RunningBack in the NFL. You’re not going to tell me any different people
- And have a 40 40 freaking years old. Do you remember when you were 40? Do you think you could be doing that? no. We have a 40 year old QB playing the best football of his illustrias career.
If you cant appreciate all that as a Vikings fan then go to Oakland where you can b*^ch and complain all you want with Raider fans.
Goodbye and Good Day
"A bad day over here is better than a good day over there"~ Jared "The Mullet" Allen
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Dec 29, 2009 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
guys, where is jared allen?
is his steroid stash running low?
quick drops
Quarterbacks aren’t holding the ball long for the Vikings anymore. As a result, they are playing catch and run with us all day long. You can’t get pressure on the quarterback if he holds it for a short period of time.
Secondly, Ray Edwards didn’t keep containment. Cutler escaped off to the right way too often.
by medicineball on Dec 28, 2009 11:54 PM CST up reply actions
Orland Pace all star
It took Lovie Smith 12-13 games to figure out that Orlando pace didn’t have it. Keen eye.
Chris Williams is pretty good and they decided to chip Cowboy tonight…brillant idea Ron Turner.
I thought it was T-Jack fault that we weren't "Great"
UMMMMMMM WRONNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGG
Why Do People Question The Vikings' Status?
by UnBannedVikingholic on Dec 28, 2009 11:53 PM CST reply actions
facemsk
Facemask is an excuse, did it happen? Yes! Did AP drop the ball? Yes! Does this happen to all RB’s? NO!
Everybody better play next week.
There is no excuse at all to rest any starter after how well they’ve played. We’ve seen how much this offense depends on Favre, he needs to be out there if we want to beat the Giants and hold onto any hope of the #2 seed.
Chilly is to blame for this loss
Horrible Gameplan..Horrible Team Readiness…And He yet again tried to Micromanage and call the plays and Not let Brett Favre run the offense in the 1st half..and we saw what happened..then Favre runs the plays in the second half and boom…we come charging back.
Yeah, he should have covered Aromash and made all those missed tackles
He also failed to block Tommy Harris. Oh wait. Those were all blown assignments by players.
by medicineball on Dec 28, 2009 11:57 PM CST up reply actions
With Tommy Harris in his face constantly?
You can’t win football games unless your offense has room to work. The line failed at that for the first half.
by medicineball on Dec 29, 2009 12:02 AM CST up reply actions
good points. chili is an idiot, good thing we locked him in for many years huh?
by los vikingos on Dec 28, 2009 11:57 PM CST up reply actions
he rigged this game to keep his +2 games per season pattern for his record
Win next week are we are 12-4
2006 = 6-10
2007 = 8-8
2008 = 10-6
2009 = 12-4?
2010 = 14-2?
2011 = 16-0?
2012 = somehow 18 and -2?
"So [Kouzmanoff]’s going to make decent monkey, but he’d be affordable." - Jesse
by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Dec 28, 2009 11:59 PM CST up reply actions
By 2012 there will be an 18 game season
Unless there is a lockout.
(Throws up a little in his mouth)
Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.
by craig in calgary on Dec 29, 2009 12:03 AM CST up reply actions
That seems to be the consistant theme....
In my opinion Chilly is to blame for every loss except the Steelers game.
Antoine Winfield getting abused
Is it just me or is Winfield getttin worked at corner? Seems like he’s not healthy or something. Last week Steve Smith owned him at Carolina and this week he gives up 2 big pass plays down the stretch (including the game winner). He’s also missing tackles like crazy.
I don’t think the defensive issues are the fault of 1 guy………but our supposed pro bowl type corner back seems to be the guy that opposing offenses are looking to exploit rather than avoid.
yes winfiled needs to go on the bench.
by los vikingos on Dec 28, 2009 11:58 PM CST up reply actions
winfield is horrible right now.
as bad as APs fumble was, they were not yet in field goal range, the defense could have stepped up and covered AP
by los vikingos on Dec 29, 2009 12:00 AM CST up reply actions
as much as this hurts...
IT WILL HURT A LOT MORE IF THEY MOVE TO LA, then we have nothing at all.
can someone kick pawlenty in his big fat pooper for me, that idiot….
Just breathe
No quarterback has ever come in as a free agent and won a Super Bowl with his new team the first year. There’s only one quarterback who could pull that off, he’s Brett Favre, but he’s also probably coming back next year. As much as we are improved this year, they will be better next year. We are still contenders now. So just be OK.
First, never ever let a bunch of millionaires get you down. Sure we cheer for our team, but you are a worthwhile person. You deserve to have a good life, regardless of what happens in some game.
by medicineball on Dec 29, 2009 12:01 AM CST up reply actions
Who's up for streaking?
Why Do People Question The Vikings' Status?
by UnBannedVikingholic on Dec 28, 2009 11:58 PM CST reply actions
pass
my thermometer says it is 5 degrees out. I’d shrink to the size of a thumbtack in this weather.
The south is warm!
Why Do People Question The Vikings' Status?
by UnBannedVikingholic on Dec 28, 2009 11:59 PM CST up reply actions
Last time I looked the Vikings were division champs
And still have a realistic shot at 2nd best in the NFC.
Division champs, ????
We have blown the opportunity for conference champs and although we may not be able to screw up division champs, sometimes you need to look at what you have beat and realize that when you are on top of crap, the best you are is something that smells like crap.
by MD 6KINGS#1 on Dec 29, 2009 12:08 AM CST up reply actions
yeah...
root for dallas next week. look at AZ’s tumble at the end of the regular season last year. they play 60 minutes ’cause you can never be certain. were you that confident down by 16 at halftime tonite, MD? so, you can NEVER be certain how the playoff will…play out.
Pretenders?
I try to be positive but the Vikes are trying my patience once again. Childress may be good with x’s and o’s but he sucks as a field general!! And AP…why, why, why can’t you hold onto the freakin ball?!?!?!
Never puts a 2nd hand on the ball
AP never covers the ball in traffic……he’s always trying to fly through and stiff arm everyone. Needs to cover the ball with a 2nd hand once in awhile
by Chriswisser on Dec 29, 2009 12:10 AM CST up reply actions
Bear Fan in need of gift
We will take AP off your hands…they guy runs like Walter Payton with more speed.
Your Defense lost that game, the bears scored 36 pts.
Special teams didn't do us any favors either...
Defense at least improved in the second half.
by EasternVike on Dec 29, 2009 12:28 AM CST up reply actions
Also, don't you already have your own Adrain Peterson? ;-)
by EasternVike on Dec 29, 2009 12:29 AM CST up reply actions
An Adrian Peterson
Not THE Adrian Peterson. There’s a difference.
the problem is that with the AGE on this team,
THERE IS NO NEXT YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no problem with age at all
virtually every skill position player will be 30 or less for next season. there’s nobody on the team excluding favre and pat williams that i would be worried about dropping off next year solely because of age.
No offense, defense or special teams
What does Minnesota have left, Farve is trying to save a sinking ship, while Childress is driling holes in the bottom. I don’t even like Farve.
Special teams
Great Odin, “special” as in “Olympics” tonite. :-(
If you give a man a match he will be warm for a moment. Set him alight
and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
by Mr. Underfoot on Dec 29, 2009 12:25 AM CST up reply actions
he good night everyone
and try to stay warm and keep away from that ledge the season is not over yet.
and AP god bless him please with vice grips fingers. hold on to the ball please We still love you though even though everyone else has seemingly given up on you.
such great fans we have here in Minnesota
Another Reason for Optimism
Call me naive, but I’m not about to write off what’s been a great year so far. Let’s say we beat the Gints on Sunday—then Philadelphia beats Dallas and clinches the two-seed. At this point, wouldn’t it almost be better if we had a first-round home playoff game to regain some of the lost momentum? Or am I clutching at straws?
Either way, I’m not giving up on this team just yet. Last year’s Cardinals showed us the folly in doing that too soon.
wait...
if we beat the Giants, we need Dallas to beat Philly to get a bye. right? you mean NOT get a first-round bye so we don’t have a bye (if Philly beats Dallas), don’t you?
optimism
Let say, that given the past few weeks performances, we do not beat the Giants. Do we not then end up trying to beat the Packers or Eagles???? Not sure that are chances are to good in those circumstances.
by MD 6KINGS#1 on Dec 29, 2009 12:12 AM CST up reply actions
Reality
Well, I think that they don’t really care at this point. Prove me wrong. I’m a Vikes Fan all the way, but this quick fix is BS. TJ could of got us to the play offs, without Chidress’ pay day. He is a moron.
that is the farthest thing from reality
one more loss and we’d be on the verge of not making the playoffs. Favre is personally responsible for at least two wins himself. We’d be nowhere without him.
It's Brett Farvre's team
The Packers were like that for years.
Get used to it with him around.
When he is good, he is very good. When he is bad, he is horrible. His team tends to be the same.
This year
He’s better than ever, and a better playcaller/audible caller than the whole Vikes staff combined. He has earned the right to do as he sees fit with audibles.
Childress needs to let go
If the defense is set up to stop the play call, then WHY NOT change things?
TJ
So this is what it has come to? what would TJ do?
Haha, seriously.
Who actually thinks TJ would have gotten the Vikings further than Favre? That is the most insane thing I’ve read yet.
Sigh…Vikings fans. Wow.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -Earl Weaver
With Jackson at the helm you guys would have lost twice to us, lost to the 49ers, and lost to the Ravens. By my count that would put you guys at 8-7 currently. For anyone to argue that Jackson would be doing better then Favre is absolutely ridiculous. As much as I hate to admit it, Favre has been great this year.
by packallday555 on Dec 29, 2009 5:21 PM CST up reply actions
2 sacks tonite? is that all we had?
J.Allen needs to get back on whatever he was taking mid year and start being an animal again. Seems like he’s been getting shut down by the DT’s 1 on 1 lately
agree, allen is low on either his roids or meth stash.
please please re-stock. because without whatever he was on, he is just another brian robison.
by los vikingos on Dec 29, 2009 12:19 AM CST up reply actions
Love to see it
Love to see Jolly Rodgers come in and take out the vikes. And see if Brett could muster up some tears for his potential last game in the Metrodome. Oh my..
You couldn't beat Brett before
and if you think Brett lit it up before, wait till it’s on a playoff stage in front of that crowd…
Luckily for us
This time Allen will actually have to go against our starting LT. Things were certainly made easier on him when he went against our normal LG and our rookie LT in his first ever game starting. I hope we do meet in the playoffs. I think the game would look much different this time around.
by packallday555 on Dec 29, 2009 5:23 PM CST up reply actions
1 player
We can not continue to blame 1 player, Allen, Winfield, Williams, Griffin, Farve, Barrian, Peterson. The team has problems. If they go into the play-offs like this, it will be short.
by MD 6KINGS#1 on Dec 29, 2009 12:21 AM CST up reply actions
Deep issues
I do not knopw what is going on in the locker rooms. I do not believe it is an issue with the talent of our players. There is an underlying friction growing with my team that is killing them on the field. Our loses are not because of the other teams, we do not have it together!!!
It all begins on the line(s)
O-line has to make holes and pass protect. D-line has to stuff the run and sack the QB. I’m expecting other D-liners to step up when JA is getting double-teamed and I’m just not seeing it.
If you give a man a match he will be warm for a moment. Set him alight
and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
by Mr. Underfoot on Dec 29, 2009 12:21 AM CST up reply actions
Phat pat
Phat Pat had a bad elbow, why he could not suit up, I don’t know. He was missed!
by MD 6KINGS#1 on Dec 29, 2009 12:32 AM CST up reply actions
"elbow"
means… resting him up.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Dec 29, 2009 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
Trent Dilfer thinks we should be a pass-first team
Spreading our the offense to set up the run. What do you all think?
uh... yeah.
It was working that way in the 2nd half.
Favre proved Chilly wrong tonite. Chilly needs to let Favre run the offense.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Dec 29, 2009 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
I like Pie
Gee it sure is sunny out. I think everything is great. NOT!
See you next year…. Unless TJ starts is the playoffs, and old man follows. Man I’m pissed!
You can't be serious
Aside from the early fumble, Brett played FLAWLESS…
Brett didn’t miss the extra point
Brett didn’t drop a bunch of easy first down throws
Brett didn’t miss a bunch of blocks
Brett didn’t miss any significant special teams tackles
Brett also didn’t fumble away a game-winning drive
Brett DID lead us to a 30-point second half and a chance to win
+4
Watching Brett was the highlight of the game. He played excellent.
by EasternVike on Dec 29, 2009 12:32 AM CST up reply actions
yeah!
that was an awesome 2nd half.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Dec 29, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
Packer Fan
Packer fan has spoken, name is Bove.
by MD 6KINGS#1 on Dec 29, 2009 12:33 AM CST up reply actions
It's all going to come down to who runs the team in the playoffs
If Childress runs the team, we lose 27-3.
If Favre runs it, we win our games like 38-31.
to much faith in one man
Boy, You guys are sure drinking that Farve Kool aid. Is Childress an idiot? YES. Is Farve the way out? NO. Don’ tbe so foolish to believe that the idiocracies of one can be solved by one another. As a team the confidence we had has disapated and now the mind game has infected all of them. If thet do not figure that out, the VIKINGS are in trouble.
by MD 6KINGS#1 on Dec 29, 2009 12:45 AM CST up reply actions
This team has won vast majority
of games via Favre – of that there is no doubt. Favre may not solve idiosyncracies, but he puts points on the board to bail out a horrific D.
and consistently putting up points...
changes the way a defense plays you.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Dec 29, 2009 11:01 AM CST up reply actions
what is "skolt" vikes
Thought you said you were not a PACKER fan
by MD 6KINGS#1 on Dec 29, 2009 12:48 AM CST up reply actions
future refence
Just so you know, it is “Skol Vikings Skol”. I am tired of the viking history but yet a big fan, the typical choke we seem to experience is sometimes overwhelming. Bud Grant , Jerry Burns, Dennis Green, Tice and Childress. No winning history here. If you have the confidence to repute my comments then do so, but before you do don’t forget Hershel Walker. Somebody please tell me what the hell is going to fix the Vikings, my blood is to purple to change.
we need to hire
a running back coach just for AP. like viking great Robert Smith, or something.
what has changed?
With the exception of a just a few players, we are basically the same unit as we were at the beginning of the season. Why are we so horrible now??? This team should be embarassed. They spoke in the locker room like it was 1 week at a time. They seemed focused. Calculative, and eager for Success. This team now, with the expectations they set, are little better than the Lions.
Did you know that the bears have struggles mightily, against weaker teams. …This is cause of Great concern. I have been a fan of the purple for 23 years, and I actually tricked myself a few weeks ago. I actually thought this team was “it”…..They are not……
They are S -H -“it”…..I only hope they pull it together now, cause otherwise this will have been, a completely wasted year, and they all look like underachieving fools.
by PURPLEPUSSYEATER on Dec 29, 2009 9:18 AM CST reply actions
Defense -HUH?????
OMG…..where or where has our D# gone……I almoset enjoyed watching them more in the beginning of the season….They went out and Destroyed teams……Now??/
I hope they read these threads when they are at home icing their ButtHoles, after getting manhandled buy a bunch of Replacement players……Keanu Reeves at them alive last nite…..our Kicker was smoking a cigarette, when he missed the extra point??
It takes a Jr. high school coach to make adjustments…..It takes Brad CHildress, a whole Half???? Cmon, He is awful….This team is 14-1 right now, heading into the post with homefield advantage, with ANDY REID as our coach…..I am so fuking upset right now!!!!!!! SOmebody please tell me we are going to be alright!!!!!!
by PURPLEPUSSYEATER on Dec 29, 2009 9:25 AM CST reply actions
OK... before everyone jumps on a pyre...
We are in the playoffs… we are division champions…
What’s the lowest we can be seeded? 4th? That would give us a homefield wildcard game, right?
I for one, think the bye is over-rated…
This team is not without it’s problems… few teams are… or without key injuries at this point in the season.
Teams are playing ‘banged up’, adjusting schemes to cover missing personnel, etc.
We’ve seen the Saints stumble too… The Colts are nothing without Manning taking snaps… the list goes on.
Our Vikings showed a spark last night – something was said/learned in the locker room at half-time that generated momentum… Momentum they need to start rolling with and playing with… a bye at this point could derail that energy.
Let’s get this show home for 2 more games and see how things go.
Will they battle hard and earn a penultimate 3rd? and fight hard enough for a Super Bowl spot??
We won’t know until they play the games… and you know you’ll be watching…
Either for the joy of cheering our beloved Purple on… or because… like a train-wreck, you just can’t take your eyes off the carnage. Ahhh… the joy of professional (Vikings) football.
GO VIKES!!
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Dec 29, 2009 11:18 AM CST reply actions
+1
"So [Kouzmanoff]’s going to make decent monkey, but he’d be affordable." - Jesse
by what_would_gil_thorp_do on Dec 29, 2009 5:39 PM CST up reply actions
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