The Mourning After: What Now?
Ouch.
The loss last night was such a doozy that I had to look up the Sports Guy's Levels of Losing column this morning. Looks like we suffered a combination of The Stomach Punch and The "This Can't Be Happening". Take a look for yourself--I think you'll agree.
Here's part of what I wrote in my quick Fan Post yesterday before the game:
The Bears are a terrible team that's ready for 2009 to be over with. The Vikes need to get a lead early to remind Chicago that they should just continue sucking to improve their draft pick next year. The longer we let the Bears hang around, the more likely they are to pull a Carolina on us.
Besides my obvious oversight about their draft pick (Chicago's first round pick goes to Denver thanks to the Jay Cutler "sweepstakes"), I basically foreshadowed The "This Can't Be Happening" Game. Well, it can happen and it did happen. We spotted the lowly Bears a 16-point halftime lead. Although the comeback was valiant, it's tough to come all the way back like that against any NFL team.
I have a bunch of random observations I want to share, but since I'm still a bit shell-shocked from last night I don't think I'll be able to tie these points together very well. Therefore, you're getting the age-old writing trick for solving this problem--good ol' bullet points:
- Something's still wrong with Antoine Winfield. I know Devin Aromashodu is fast, but #26 did his best Fred Smoot impression on the game-clinching touchdown in overtime. It wasn't just that play either. Winfield looked really slow changing directions all night, which tells me he's still not 100%.
- The tackling this month has been horrendous, which is far and away the most alarming problem with the defense right now. It's never a good thing when ESPN does a "Missed Tackles" montage about your team. I think the Vikings were actually in the right position most of the time last night (outside of the few costly blown coverages), but Deion Sanders would have been embarrassed by some of the efforts last night. When will they realize that simply throwing your body at an NFL player doesn't guarantee a tackle? (Yes, I'm talking to you Jasper Brinkley and Cedric Griffin.)
- The line play for Minnesota on both sides was much better in the second half. But that was preceded by six awful, awful quarters for the Vikings' offensive and defensive lines. Even after the improved second half, one sack from the alleged best defensive line in the NFL isn't gonna cut it in the playoffs.
- Apparently our special teams thought it was 2008 last night. I'd elaborate, but I don't think I need to.
- Adrian Peterson is more upset than anyone else about his fumble in overtime. It ruined an otherwise great game from Purple Jesus.
- I'm not sure if it was Favre or Childress that took control of the offense in the second half, but I'd be pretty shocked if Brett didn't have more to do with the turnaround. Whoever it was, make sure that person is in charge next week and in the playoffs, OK?
- Speaking of Chilly, the Vikings were 10-1 when Brad Childress received his contract extension. They're 1-3 since. I'm not saying that we should have waited until the end of the season until we gave Mr. Noodle the reigns for the next four years but...wait, that's exactly what I'm saying.
As much as we could nitpick all the what-ifs from last night (like "What if that extra point doesn't get blocked?" or "What if we actually intercept those passes from Cutler in the first quarter?"), the Vikings need to move on in a hurry. They have a short week and they're facing a team with literally nothing to lose in the New York Giants. As it stands right now, the Vikings hold the #3 seed in the playoffs. If the Eagles win on Sunday, we're hosting a Wild Card game with no bye. Which means that for the first time in my entire life, I will be cheering for the Cowboys on Sunday.
Excuse me. After typing that last sentence, I have the uncontrollable urge to take a 45-minute, scalding-hot shower. I'll be right back.
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OK, I feel a little better now.
The Vikings could have a bye or host any of three teams in the Wild Card round depending on how the Week 17 games go. As we all know, our loss clinched the #1 seed for New Orleans. I was in the process of breaking down each scenario for the other five NFC playoff teams, but my buddy Jeff came through and provided me with this awesome chart. I'm not 100% sure that it's completely accurate, but I went through it and everything looked good to me. If you find anything wrong, let me know in the comments section and I'll get it updated. Remember, it's Eagles @ Cowboys and Packers @ Cardinals this week, which eliminates some permutations of wins and losses for each team.
UPDATED 4:15 PM 12/29: In the case where Dallas gets the 2 seed, GB would actually get the 5 seed over Philly, therefore setting up another potential PHI @ MIN instead of GB @ MIN.
Simple, right? Compared to the AFC Wild Card picture it is! Unfortunately, what isn't so simple is how Minnesota is going to regain their form. The team has looked downright bad for most of the past month while other NFC contenders have just started hitting their stride.
I took a look at the Fan Posts following the game, and there's a lot of "same old Vikings" and "same old Favre" gloom and doom talk from our commenters. And you know what? I can't blame anyone for thinking that. They've ripped our hearts out for as long as they've been in existence. Being let down is woven into the fabric of being a Vikings fan.
But I'm not counting this team out just yet. As Gonzo has pointed out numerous times, take a look at Arizona last year. The Cards got their lunch handed to them in December, yet came within a play of winning the Super Bowl. Playing great in December is nice, but you ultimately need to play your best come January and beyond.
There's still time to right the ship. Just not that much.
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There are a few GB @ MN
scenarios in that chart that make me go Hmmm….
In any case… regardless of how this all plays out… we have a bye or a home game.
In this league.. that’s good.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Dec 29, 2009 12:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Blegh, I’m tired of the comparisons to the Cardinals from last year. The teams are very much different. The only thing I can see similar to them is that both teams have older, more experienced QBs. That’s it. Our offense is good when it’s clicking, but the recievers aren’t Boldin and Fitzgerald. Fitz pretty much carried the Cardinals on his back in the playoffs. I don’t think we have a WR who can do that.
Our running game is better, no doubt, but the recent rash of bad blocking has me worried. And not just in the running game. Passing included. How do you give up two sacks in a row in OT last night? That’s when the pressure is on, and when you’ll typically see what teams are really made of. Our O-Line needs help. And don’t get me started on the D.
Basically, there’s alot wrong with this team right now. Possibly too much to correct come playoffs, because, let’s face it, has Childress really shown he can make adjustments since he got that extension?
by Frost on Dec 29, 2009 12:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
OMG..I love Eric's quips sometime
Again, like his awesome quote from a week ago, the comparison of Chilly to Mr. Noodle from Sesame Street? Genius. You rock, Eric. LOL
by Wytefang on Dec 29, 2009 12:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Cheesy plays on words
Are my specialty.
by ericj69 on Dec 30, 2009 2:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you're also the best at...
scantily clad women.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Dec 30, 2009 5:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You still have one of the arguably best all time qb’s at the helm, trust me there wasnt a single bear fan out there last night that didnt think favre was going to tie it up when he needed to. At least your going to the playoff’s, still plenty of time to turn things around.
by bearsfan67 on Dec 29, 2009 12:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Good to see great sportsmanship
from the opposing side. And its true, we are going to the playoffs at least. Hope we do turn things around and show that the NFC North has the best team this year by winning it all, but one game at a time… And now i have to cheer for dallas, i was cheering for the broncos this week, Damn horses asses
by the-reaper on Dec 29, 2009 4:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
40 years of crushing my hopes...
Maybe because I have lived and died with this team since the mid 60’s, but last night really ripped my heart out. I can’t believe that the Vikings actually signed Mr Noodle to a contract extension. The Vikings definitely weren’t ready to play in the first half and that is coaching. I don’t think I have ever sworn at the TV as much as I did last night. Oh well, there is next week, but that will soon turn into next year….I would love to be proven wrong.
by wesjt on Dec 29, 2009 1:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
wrong.
2 weeks.
1 playoff game at home, either the first week of the playoffs or the second.
ANYTHING can happen. One game at a time.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Dec 29, 2009 1:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"...I would love to be proven wrong"
AVF, this is my dad. He’s been through it all. He makes me look like a fair-weather fan, and I was swearing like George Carlin going through his “Seven Dirty Words” routine last night. He doesn’t want to be right, but after seeing the same thing year after year, he fears he is right.
According to my brother who was watching the game with him, my dad nearly combusted last night after the rollercoaster ride the Vikes gave us. If he gets his hopes up too much and the Vikings let him down again at the end of the year, I might have to start worrying about his long-term health. So just let him vent—I’d like to have him around for a few more years. :)
by ericj69 on Dec 29, 2009 2:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
NEARLY combusting?
The brother can confirm this fact. The father gets downright scary when the Vikings play as poorly as they did last night. I honestly thought he was going to throw the bowl of peanuts clear through the 52" LCD TV and the brick fireplace behind it as well several times in the first half alone.
by benjt82 on Dec 29, 2009 7:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would pay BIG $$$ to be proven wrong...
AVF, I have probably suffered the ups and downs of the Vikings more years than you are old. I think the day after a gut punch like last nights game I should be able to vent some frustration at MY Vikings. Does this mean I jump off the band wagon? Hell no, I watched EVERY game during the Les Steckel season. I LOVE my Vikings, always have, always will, even if they get hot in the playoffs and Favre tosses the “worst interception ever thrown in the Super Bowl” to lose the game. I will still love the Vikings. Kind of like having kids, no matter what they do they are YOUR kids and you will ALWAYS LOVE them. ;-D
See, I feel better already. GO VIKINGS!
by wesjt on Dec 29, 2009 2:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hehe...
it’s cool… I wasn’t trying to be a jerk. really. just correcting the ‘next week turns into next year’ thing.
My Dad is the same way – he’s been a fan since ‘61 (well… he was in the ’press’ (radio) back then until ‘75) – and I hear his griping too. I joined the ranks in 1970 when I was 4 (I got to see my 1970 Santa photo this year in my Vikings stocking cap – bought at the Met now in my possession!).
So… I’ve suffered through much of the ups and downs myself.
And like you… I wish wish wish we could put it together this year.
We still may! Stranger things have happened on the road to the SuperBowl.
And no matter what happens… we’ve been entertained. So we got our money’s worth.
SKOL! and SKOL!
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Dec 29, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Vikings had too many mistakes, but
was I the only one who was furious at times with the officiating last night. By no means am I letting our unacceptable mishaps off the hook, but it seemed that on countless occasions there were either no-calls for us, or very ticky-tacky calls on the vikes. One example was when sidney was not just touched early, but shoved a full second or two before the ball got there. Again when adrian was stepping out of bounds and just got unnecessarily hit to the sidelines. I have seen way less physical late hits called before and I was out of my seat when it wasn’t called. Then you have the blatant block in the back on the kick-off right next to the runner, as well as what I would consider a very questionable pass-interference on a uncatchable ball for Greg Olsen. Finally, I was perplexed as to why the officials didn’t even look at the fumble by AP. Of course after replay you could see it as a fumble, but it was close enough that I have a very hard time believing that it was that clear live. Again, I never want to be that guy that blames games on the refs, and I certainly can recognize that we needed to step up more than we did especially in the first half. Am I off with these observations, or did anyone else notice them too?
by ortonhearsab00 on Dec 29, 2009 1:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I saw them too
Especially the shove in the back on Rice and the block in the back on the kick return. AP was still in bounds when he took that hit, but it looked worse live. I agree that responsibility for the loss falls squarely on the team itself, but the refs certainly didn’t do us any favors last night.
by ericj69 on Dec 29, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree about the Tillman/Rice incident
and originally and wrongly, like you, thought that the AP hit was late. However, generally all fans think their team got screwed after a game and the officiating was in the other teams favor. Like Favre’s frustrating spike of the ball that wasn’t called, some PI’s, et cetera, et cetera.
I’m not agreeing or disagreeing, I’m just saying! It’s always the case on every board during the game (winning or losing) or after it’s over (win or loss).
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by smudgers on Dec 29, 2009 1:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The really egregious one was the facemask on the AP fumble
He definitely had his mask pulled but the refs were oblivious to it I guess. Still no excuse for AP not stepping smartly out of bounds to avoid fumbling in the first place. Sigh.
by Wytefang on Dec 29, 2009 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
game changers....
the non calls with rice CLEARLY getting hit hard from the back well before the ball got to him and the real game changing non call: the block in the back on the long kick return right next to the runner….what the blankety blank are the refs doing out there?…. joke
"Somewhere in Minnesota, a child becomes a Vikings fan and wonders if they will win a Super Bowl in their lifetime"
by Skol!dTimer on Dec 29, 2009 5:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Every losing team blames the refs
It is disappointing that every losing team keeps blaming the refs – what happened to these same refs when you score or get turnovers? As for the Peterson hit, he clearly was not out of bounds, he may be on his way out but the defense is not supposed to read your mind, what if he suddenly stopped himself, turned and kept going? The defender has every right to hit him as long as he is in bounds which he was. As for the fumble, yes they did look at it, and it clearly was a fumble. I am confused by the writer, he says it is a fumble and then wonders why it was not looked at? What for? Secondly as I posted, they did look at it and it doesn’t take long to see what happened – He fumbled, end of story.
The reality is that few dome teams win outside especially when it is cold. I don’t see the vikings going far – first round busts, if you ask me. Tear down that dome and start playing outside, then you have a chance.
by VANAMALI on Dec 29, 2009 11:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"I never want to be that guy that blames games on the refs, and I certainly can recognize that we needed to step up more than we did especially in the first half."
I actually wasn’t blaming the refs for the lost at all as I mentioned in the above statement. I just feel that there were some real game changers that it’s ok to mention. And I don’t think that just because we were outside really affected the vikes as much as you allude to. In the second half we were dominating, while the weather stayed the same if not grew colder. We played great against Green Bay in November, while we played horribly against the cards on the turf. I think it’s much more the crowd than the outside weather itself. No matter the outcome on monday, the vikes showed us in the second half that they can show up, and battle through tough atmosphere. No disrespect, but I just have a differing opinion.
by ortonhearsab00 on Dec 30, 2009 10:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Eric - Thanks
For making me feel slightly better today with your optimism. Last night was a tough one. After being thoroughly disgusted throughout the first half, things looked pretty good offensively in the second half. Favre’s leadership in the comeback was sensational and our man Sid Rice made the best reception since Lewis made the last second catch against the niners. I’m a bit concerned, I mean really concerned, about our poor performance on both sides of the line. And do I ever miss EJ? I agree with you that something is wrong with Antoine. He’s missing tackles and seems slower than usual. There’s oodles of concern at every position on this team I only hope we get back on track in the Dome next Monday and then pray for the Cowboys to win. Now I need to go puke :(
"Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far." Theodore Roosevelt
by DaRange on Dec 29, 2009 1:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Awesome.
Excuse me. After typing that last sentence, I have the uncontrollable urge to take a 45-minute, scalding-hot shower. I’ll be right back.
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OK, I feel a little better now.
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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox
by smudgers on Dec 29, 2009 1:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
sifting through the aftermath
This is not going as hoped, obviously, but let’s step back and take a deep breath. The vikes finished 4-4 on the road, and have a good chance to be undefeated at home. I’ll take that every year. They are still very much alive for a bye, and are guaranteed a home playoff game. This loss hurts, but the problems the Vikes have are correctable…tackle, play fundamental defense, run block/pass protect, and cover your lane on special teams. Minnesota has done that remarkably well most of the season, and hasn’t for the better part of December. They can turn it around as quickly as they let it get away from them, so let’s take a deep breath and step away from the ledge.
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
by MilCardFan on Dec 29, 2009 2:20 PM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I don't think that the O-line problems or Secondary are that fixable. :(
And AP has not shown any real improvement with the fumbling issue. Other than that, the other stuff is, as you’ve indicated, mostly correctable.
by Wytefang on Dec 29, 2009 4:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not over yet....
Great reference to Simmons’ levels of losing. And of course 41-Donut was the prime example of the “This Can’t Be Happening” game. Sigh. Like I needed to be reminded of that today…
‘Toine was getting torched all night. He’s giving up too much cushion at the line, maybe to compensate for his sore foot and slow cuts. It didn’t work. #19 on the Bears is Fast. He gave Windfield a double move that juked him out of this socks. Need to get that sorted or just ride with Paymah, as much as I hate to say that. The WR’s we’ll face in the playoffs will be a lot more dangerous than Devin Aromashodu.
Are we missing Matt Birk? As much as I thought Matty was getting turnstiled last year, I just don’t understand the absolute collapse of our offensive line. Loadholt is a rookie and Sullivan is first year at the helm, but it isn’t just them. McKinnie has been getting owned. Adrian has zero running lanes. Is it a change in protection schemes? We dominated the line of scrimmage in the first ten games. What has changed?
Speaking of the line of scrimmage, our defensive line has been mediocre. I love Jared Allen but it seems like he almost takes himself out of every play. Granted, teams tend to chip him with a back or TE at times, but on running plays teams can just run at his side because he’s 3 yards behind the QB. They also are just not getting a good push to collapse the pocket. I’m not as worried about this though, because I think they are getting frustrated. They are due for an explosive game.
Adrian dropped the ball. He knows what he cost us with that fumble. I’m not sure what they can do to correct it. He just needs to keep the ball tucked and not flare his elbow, ever. He just simply needs to protect that ball better.
Favre had a dismal first half and a great second. I wonder if he shut his helmet communications off and just ran the offense. Let the guy do his thing, Childress. Just let Favre play football and quit micro-managing. I’m hoping he can use his experience to take control as the leader of this team. I think he has to.
This team isn’t done yet. I won’t compare them to last seasons Cards team, but we all know what this team is capable of. I still say if you would given me 12-4 or 11-5 at the beginning of the year, I would have taken it gladly and said “let’s see what happens.” The real season hasn’t started yet. Like the OP said, there’s still time to right the ship. I’m not flying off into the stormy waves yet. I’ll ride it out until the end, and hope this team puts a run together at the right time.
Skol Vikes
by toke1 on Dec 29, 2009 2:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
+4
Favre had a dismal first half and a great second. I wonder if he shut his helmet communications off and just ran the offense. Let the guy do his thing, Childress. Just let Favre play football and quit micro-managing. I’m hoping he can use his experience to take control as the leader of this team. I think he has to.
Well said!!
by Vikesgal on Dec 29, 2009 2:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta disagree w/ dismal 1st half.
He was not in contol of destiny1st half. But he took it from Chilly the 2nd half for the benefit of the team IMO.
by jshep on Dec 29, 2009 6:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Still optomistic
I was so frustrated after last nights loss. How can we look so horrible one half and so much more efficient the next? C’mon. I just don’t get it. But on the plus side of things, we did get to see how Favre and our offense can get us out of a pretty bad deficit. But still, it should not have come to that. But, at least we started to see signs of life for our beloved purple. That’s why I’m still optimistic. Our next game is at home. We are going to be more pumped more energetic, and let’s face it — we play 100 times better at home then on the road. Even if we get the #3 we will host at home. Again…HUGE. Let’s just get the momentum back – let’s hope this was just a “slump” and that last night and the week before was just a purple haze we can forget about. SKOL!!
by Vikesgal on Dec 29, 2009 2:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
wow...#4 seed now possible!!
when #1 was still in sight before AP’s fumble..what a year..
as i have mentioned before..vikes are a very good turf team..where their quickness is not nullified.. JA had no push and KW neither..so cutler had all day to throw past our middling secondary..
BUT i hereby proclaim the will win going away vs giants on sunday .. so if phi loses,, still a LEGIT shot at SB.. if PHI wins, they will represent nfc in super bowl vs SD..(but SD wins it all regardless)..
"the following statement is true:
the preceding statement was false" - george carlin
by BranFavrenton on Dec 29, 2009 2:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm taking bets
that the first home game the Vikings play in the playoffs will be blacked out. Any takers?
by cdubs on Dec 29, 2009 2:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Serious?
It’ll be sold out right away. If none of the eight regular season games were blacked out, why on Earth do you think the playoff game would be?
by ericj69 on Dec 29, 2009 3:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Philly last year
is reason to believe it. We collapsed last year and it just BARELY sold enough the day before the game…
Collapse + this year = blackout in playoffs
why on Earth do you think people will pay hundreds of dollars to see the collapsed vikings get steamrolled?
Correction: If the Vikings play the Packers 1st round then it will sell out immediately….Packers will have a home game, lol
by cdubs on Dec 29, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
with Favre at the helm??
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Dec 29, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Games had almost been getting blacked out all year last year leading up to the playoffs. I remember reading articles in the Tribune about it nearly every week, but not this year. When Favre signed, the ticket sales rocketed.
by packallday555 on Dec 29, 2009 4:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Which is a big reason why we made the deal with the Devil in the first place. :)
by ericj69 on Dec 29, 2009 4:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Devil wins games
so the deal was a great one. Not sure why’d you call Favre a Devil, he’s the only reason we were even in the conversation of this year’s superbowl.
You just can’t give kid a bike and take it away after he scrapes his knee from a fall or two. It’s his bike now, just let him ride with it…
by cdubs on Dec 29, 2009 4:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
But after hating him for 16+ years, that’s what it felt like to me when we signed him. His great play was our reward, but the creepy feeling I get every time I see Favre in purple is the “catch”. :)
by ericj69 on Dec 29, 2009 4:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
'creepy' feeling.
that’s a winner’s itch.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Dec 29, 2009 5:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
cali viking
i agree finaly someone that knows favre is the man he will take us to the promise land if chilly lets him take control if hes running the show he will tear any defense apart
by cali viking on Jan 1, 2010 8:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Instead of pulling for the Cowboys
Can I just hope that both teams vanish off the face of the earth? Honestly the zebras stunk last night, but that is not the reason we lost. We played 30 minutes of football in a 60 minute plus game and still almost won. We have to learn to play the whole game with the same intensity as we played the second half. As I said last week, win or lose I will follow the Vikings and have for 40 plus years. One day I know we will win it all and I can’t wait for that day.
Skol
by SouthernNorseman on Dec 29, 2009 3:21 PM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Don't hold your breath
Think you’ll live to see the year 2187?
by cdubs on Dec 29, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Mr. Noodlesis a spitting image (minus the beard) and is wearing purple, gold and white. WTF?
by LoveHate on Dec 29, 2009 4:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Updated the playoff grid with a minor change
In the scenario where Dallas gets the #2 seed (lower left), Green Bay would actually hold the tiebreaker over Philly, which means we’d host Philly as a #3 seed for the second consecutive year instead of Green Bay. Just FYI.
by ericj69 on Dec 29, 2009 4:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I agree compeltely with all of your bullet points
especially the last two.
I was so angry over that disgusting loss last night that I couldn’t stop thinking about it. I’m trying my best to get over it though and move on. A win against the Giants would go a long way toward helping me move on.
The Giants are out of the playoffs, have been pummeled in their last game, and have no reason to play hard against the Vikings. Sounds familiar huh?
If we win vs Giants
+ Philly wins, they are #2, we are #3 and host Dallas in the WC game
+ Dallas wins, we are #2 and have a bye week
If we lose vs Giants (and we better not do that)
+Philly and Arizona win, we are #4 and would host Green Bay in the WC game
+Philly and Green Bay win, we are #3 and host Dallas in the WC game
+Dallas and Arizona win, we are #4 and would host Philly in the WC game
+ Dallas and Green Bay win, we are #3 and still host Philly in the WC game
by Bodysuit Man on Dec 29, 2009 4:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Watched the Game at a bar last night...
and everyone in there was yelling and disgusted by the first half of the game, are we starting the season over now, playing one half only??? I was playing poker at the bar during the game, when the game was over i was so pissed that i didnt even care about my cards that much, so i called alot of crap i shouldnt have, and WON! So the lose kinda helped me beat 43 players in a tournament, but i wish the vikes would have won instead, still have a bad taste in my mouth from that game.
by the-reaper on Dec 29, 2009 4:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Here we go again!
Here we go again, another “maybe next year” off season. It almost seems impossible that the Vikings can self destruct in the manner they do everytime it seems they can finally go to the big show. I have been a devoted Viking fan all my life and always will be. My son who is eight years old is also a die hard Viking fan, I have suffered through all the Vikings heart breaking losses going all the way back to the Cowboys Hail Mary catch. I hope the Vikes Finally win one and my son does not have to go through the heart ache and frustration I have suffered being such a devoted fan. Please Vikings please give your fans at least one year of no heart ache or wait till next year.
by nmvikingsfan on Dec 29, 2009 7:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ericj69, you're such an idiot !
Here’s part of what I wrote in my quick Fan Post yesterday before the game:
The Bears are a terrible team that’s ready for 2009 to be over with. The Vikes need to get a lead early to remind Chicago that they should just continue sucking to improve their draft pick next year. The longer we let the Bears hang around, the more likely they are to pull a Carolina on us.
Your “so-called” INSIGHT is so shallow that any 7 year older who could write could have made such comment. If you’re going to write something be a little more intelligent about it. Thank you.
by tofu on Dec 29, 2009 7:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Did someone poop in your stocking this Christmas? Or does the screen name “tofu” make you come across like the food? You know—like an awful substitute for something of actual substance?
While I acknowledge that my opinion on what might happen in the game wasn’t exactly groundbreaking, I simply said that it foreshadowed what actually happened in the game—we let the Bears hang around and they ended up beating us. I didn’t quote my fan post to say “Hey guys, look how smart I am!”, because it’s always a good idea to get an early lead regardless of who you’re playing. I was only relating it to Simmons’ Levels of Losing column.
And if any 7 year “older” (I’m guessing you meant “old” there, but hey, I’m an idiot, what do I know) can make these observations, maybe we should get the little guy on the Vikings coaching staff. At times, I think it would be an improvement over the current regime.
by ericj69 on Dec 29, 2009 9:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
vikings defense
What has happened to our once ferocious defense? I cant believe how poorly they’ve played the past month. With the exception of the Bengals game, they cant seem to tackle, sack, or cover anybody. I’ve loved the vikes my whole life (45 yrs) and yes i always say the vikes are gonna win it all only to eat crow year after year, however, this year, after signing Favre who i thought was the missing piece of our super bowl puzzle, i really felt the vikes were gonna take it all. i still feel they can do it but they better get their act together against the Giants so they can go into the playoffs with at least a little bit of that swagger they had before the Arizona game.
by Dakotavikesfan on Dec 29, 2009 7:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Conspiracy?
Can you say conspiracy! The ref’s have had it out for the Vikes since the season began. The numerous missed calls, or no calls are too many to even count! I don’t understand it…it’s like Bud Grant made a deal with the NFL back in the day to keep getting into the SB or something. I don’t know what it is, but it’s making me sick to my stomach. I have something to say about our defensive coach Leslie Frazier, who should not…I repeat SHOULD NOT receive a head coaching position at least in this league anyways (try the arena league, Frazier where defense is rarely needed) but if every Viking fan in the building knows that a team out of the playoffs, with nothing to lose is gonna pass the ball in a back in forth OT….why don’t you! I remember literally screaming at the tv when the bears got the ball back a 3rd time…" THEY’RE GONNA PASS….GET THE expletive OUTTA RUN D!!!" The memory of Crybaby Cutler hitting that game winner on a relatively unknown receiver (at least to me) receiver well be burned into my memories forever.
by Supabad1edy on Dec 29, 2009 7:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
vikings offense
WHY DONT THEY PLAY THE SPREAD OFFENSE ALL THE TIME? Nobody can match up with our offense when they spread it out. I know A.P. would appreciate looking at a defense that doesnt have everyone in the box! Chilly needs to wise up and stop being so predictable( first down run off tackle). Open it up and we’ll be Super Bowl champs.
by Dakotavikesfan on Dec 29, 2009 7:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
cali viking
i agree big time dakota
by cali viking on Jan 1, 2010 9:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Second half..
Even though we lost the game, I am hoping that the offensive show we put on in the second half was the spark that was needed to get this team out of their funk.
Our ST have been better than that all season. So I am hoping it was a fluke last night. It doesn’t help that your kicker is only getting the ball to the 20 at best.
The defense all starts with the dline. If they get to the QB, it protects the secondary. Even if they don’t get the sack, they have to disrupt the timing. Not sure what has to be done, but they have to be better.
I refuse to think a team that is that talented can’t get things straightened out and make a run.
Go Vikings and Go Cowboys.
by bf4mvp on Dec 29, 2009 8:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If you’re going to take a positive from the game…and its tough. At least we can say that the December decline for Favre doesn’t appear to be an issue at this point in time.
by dsludo on Dec 29, 2009 9:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Gross.
I lived in Wisconsin for 18 years, and everything all you new Favre-lovers say to defend him is exactly the crap I (and I’m guessing about 90% of Vikings fans) used to call BS on Packers fans for. I hope Jackson has to come in, and he leads us to the Bowl. THAT would be the story of the year. (Along with hell freezing over, my toilet suddenly springing the fountain of youth, pigs flying, whatever.)
by tuckerbjt on Dec 30, 2009 4:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree with letting Favre have the keys
Brad needs to follow through with why he brought Favre here. Without Favre’s more spread sets and open style the Vikings have no chance. As far as the offensive line goes, can you imagine having to spot the opponent 16 points and a half of football before you get to run the offence you believe in and that actually works? Of course this is demoralizing. Just let the dogs loose from the get go. If Favre doesnt get it done, Brad can go back to Adrian and a cloud of astro turf.
by ToddT on Dec 30, 2009 3:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Brad Childress did not deserve contract extention...
No question that everyone in the team is accountable for the Vikings downfall…But, again, with all the talents we have ( 8 players selected to the Pro Bowl ) Brad Childress still lacks the abilities to lead such a team in must-win situation.
I protested the mid-season contract signing then and I protest it now. Chilly first needs to prove he can coach the BIG games, where it really counts, before deserving such reward.
In this league, there are many good coaches who had to overcome multiple key injuries to their players, and still managed to win tough games. By far, the Vikings have got to be considered the luckiest team to avoid such adversity. So start earning your paychecks Mr Childress.
by tofu on Dec 30, 2009 9:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Agree 100%
At least make Chilly win a playoff game before giving him an extension. Or in this case, the #2 seed. The #2 was there for the taking 3x’s in the last month, but Chilly didn’t achieve. If the Vikings lose the #2seed, and go 1&done, I think they’ll have some troubles with the season ticket holders next year.
by chaosg on Dec 31, 2009 9:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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