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by LoveHate on Feb 20, 2009 6:09 PM CST
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PrintPerusing Vikings news and found an interesting tidbit on espn's NFC North Blog Page.
Kevin Seifert reporting on all things North while at the combine in Indianapolis suggests there may not be much change at quarterback in the Vikings roster come the 2009 season. Seifert says "...it seems clear the Vikings have no interest in pursuing a blockbuster deal to find a new starter. That would seem to rule out a run at New England's Matt Cassel, and as of Friday the team had displayed no indications it would pursue pending free agent Jeff Garcia."
Ouch!
Childress was asked "if he could envision a scenario in which the Vikings would pursue a player to be their new and unquestioned starter. Childress paused several seconds and said: "There might be." Then, he added: "But right now I would be honest with you and tell you I wouldn't know who that person would be.""
Really? See above paragraph!
Seifert continues: "So let's quickly review. Without mentioning Cassel, Garcia or Cleveland's Derek Anderson by name, the Vikings' top two decision-makers are on record saying they don't believe there is a difference-making quarterback available to them. And their first option is to make no changes to their 2008 depth chart."
The piece has more on the Vikings perspective, check it out:
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfcnorth
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I am starting to get concerned.
Although, I assumed Garcia or Anderson would have to compete with Tjack. I can also see Childress not thinking of Cassel as a legitimate choice. So this, “But right now I would be honest with you and tell you I wouldn’t know who that person would be.” makes sense to me.
What scares me is them bringing back Frerrote to compete. He has absolutely no promise or upside.
If it's not Frerotte...
It has to be somebody. And no one is on his radar at this point. Vikings reps can’t sound as if they have reason to panic or that they’ve lost faith in their roster, but come on! You’re 100% correct, they clearly have to find at least one quarterback!
This is interesting: on Tom Brady's recent disclosure (ProSportsDaily)
“ESPN analyst John Clayton said Brady’s showing Wednesday, at the very least, fueled the flames of trade talk. "If the price is a second-round pick, I think they have a reasonably good chance (of making a deal)," Clayton said. "If they’re saying a No. 1, I just don’t think that’s going to work."”
I'm jumping on the T-Jack bandwagon!
haha… kind of. I think Cassel is the only serious upgrade at QB. But maybe he isn’t. Cassel was really only effective in the shotgun formation, giving him more time to read the defense. Garcia would be an upgrade over Frerotte. But that’s about it. Someone to compete with Tarvaris. But I don’t think it’s worth it to get him. I’d honestly rather see T-Jack be the starter starting next season. We would actually know if he can be an average starter or not. I don’t think he will be a superstar, but if he plays average and makes some plays and cuts down on his turnovers, he would be a decent starter for the Vikes. If he stinks it up, then the Vikings would have a middle of the road pick next year, where they can draft a good QB. And Chilly would be gone. But if T-Jack can step it up this year and lead us to at least 2nd round of the playoffs, I would finally get off the “fire childress now” bandwagon.
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on Feb 21, 2009 12:19 AM CST reply actions
2nd
There isn’t the talent at QB in this market to significantly upgrade at the QB position. It will, and should, be a do or die year for Jackson to make the next step and play with some more consistency. If he does, the Vikings will continue to be NFC North Champs and be in the playoffs. If the Vikings slip below .500 or not competing for the playoffs, start looking at these guys. Much better than this years class. Doesn’t seem like that desperate of a situation.
I’ll give Jackson that. Last season, he really turned down the turnovers. He had 2 over 5.5 games. And he’s shown that he can make good throws, like we saw in the Arizona game. But now he just needs to be consistant. That’s what kills me the most. I wish he was either consistantly good or consistantly crappy. Who knows, maybe Jackson will continue to grow this offseason and do better than everyone’s expecting.
He definitely needs some help from the special teams though.
He needs some help from the O-Line most of all. Give T-Jack some more time before he has to run and he might do better on his check-downs and reading the secondary. I’m not thrilled with Berrian’s lack of premier speed, but Berrian can get the job done if T-Jack can get him the ball. Give T-Jack a real speedster with good hands on the other end of the line from Berrian, and I think he’d have a banner year. It’s not that hard to heave the ball out there and let your speedster run under it (outrunning the secondary in the process).
I wonder if there’s any basketball players interested in jumping to the NFL this year…. wouldn’t be on the draft radar, but if they have the speed, height, hands, and physicality…. gee, sounds like a basketball player future top-rated NFL WR to me!
Wade’s got pretty decent hands on the other side of Berrian. I agree that we need a bit more speed from the WRs though. If only Allison would stop Offensive PI’ing, he might get some field time. That guy had pretty good speed.
As for Basketball players, didn’t we already have somebody like that in ‘07? I thought I remember reading about the project-basketball guy in the STrib. Anyways, he got cut, so I don’t think they’ll waste time trying to develop another basketball player to the WR position.
B-Ball Player
I didn’t hear about that, but it sounds interesting. Those guys have the basic physical type you want for a top WR, the main question is speed. Watching Fitz in the Super Bowl, literally handling his covering because he was bigger, taller, and faster than they were, was very impressive. I think Harold Carmichael was the first of that type of WR, and I think that’s what the Vikes should be looking for, to play opposite Berrian.
FYI
Sidney Rice is an inch taller than L Fitz and ran a faster 40
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on Feb 23, 2009 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
Rice doesn’t have Fitz’ speed in outrunning the secondary. Berrian’s better than Rice at that, and they drape all over Berrian most of the time. Every time I watch that 99 yard TD by Berrian I get feel a bit of tension despite knowing the outcome because in the final 20 years, the secondary is closing the gap on Berrian.
Fitz, on the other hand, has explosive speed from a standing start and he can stretch it out, as he showed in the Super Bowl. I don’t know what his 40 yard dash is, but I do know he’s capable of running faster than Rice. The ability to outrun most secondaries and muscle your way through a Hail Mary tussle is, IMO, what you want in your #1 receiver.
That’s where Rice fails to fit the mold. Maybe he’ll grow into something faster, but I don’t see the roster space available to babysit him.
Who knows if his speed this season had anything to do with his knee injury or not. I’m inclined to believe that’s the case, since he didn’t seem to have as much trouble getting seperation his rookie season.
Signing Garcia and letting Jackson come in when he inevitably gets hurt is our best option right now. That is pretty scary isn’t it? Jackson would be a fine backup, as he displayed in the final few games of the season, but as a starter he doesn’t get it done. I wonder not only if he ever will but how long can we give him? The team that is built to win now isn’t winning now and most of that is because of poor QB play and poor utilization of players and plays by the coach and OC. I really think that as long as Childress in our coach it won’t much matter who is playing QB. Might as well just let Jackson freaking play now and if it doesn’t look markedly better at the end of the coming season both of them should be gone imo.
Isn't winning?
Last I checked, The Vikings finished 10-6 and were the NFC North Champs, and that was with Jackson and Gus as the QBs. That last time the Vikings won the division it was 8 years ago and it was called the NFC Central and Tampa Bay was still a divisional opponent.
I can understand that people get upset when their team doesn’t do what they think the team should do, but that doesn’t mean its the end of the world. The Vikings will still be the favorites to win next year too. Just look at the other teams in the North:
Green Bay – Switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4 defense. At best they might get another win or two but that would only get them to .500. More likely they will lose another game or two while getting used to the new scheme.
Chicago – What have they done to improve? They have no passing game and the entire O goes through Forte, plus the defense isn’t anywhere close to what is was 3 years ago. They will need to get younger and more explosive to be more of a threat.
Lions – Sure, they might win a few games next year and even be one of the most improved teams in the league (shouldn’t be that hard), but they are no where ready to compete for the division title.
The Vikings are the NFC North Champs and that title doesn’t look to get threatened much in the upcoming season.
chase daniels?
I really haven’t heard a lot about Chase Daniels this offseason. I’m not a huge college football fan, so I don’t really know a whole lot about him. I know he is short, 6’ I think. But I don’t know what else is wrong with him. He seemed to do well in college. Put up good stats. From what I saw, he kind of reminded me of Drew Brees. Short, but accurate with a lot of football smarts. He might be worth picking up in the later rounds and letting him compete with JDB for the 3rd string position.
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on Feb 21, 2009 5:38 PM CST reply actions
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