And +1 on the Sage acquisition. Hopefully, he’ll be the Vikes starting QB next season.

I think Roesnfels is more like that girl on the episode of Seinfeld where in certain light she is hot as hell, where as when light hits her in just the right way, she is the most hideous thing you have ever seen.

Sage played for less than medocre teams and had some bright moments. This is a gamble, not a project. But it may be a good gamble. Sure I would love a bonified starter, but at what price? We gave up a lot to get Allen, but can we gamble the draft bank on a big name QB? Maybe something will fall into place in the draft this year or next.
I sure don’t think Sage can do much worse and I certainly hope better.
I’m not ready to tear this deal apart yet.
Or.. maybe the Vikes won’t stop there and try Garcia at the right price??? As of now, you got Sage in early to learn the system and waiting 2 more months to make a move would be dumber yet. Any QB needs that time with a new team.
If ya’ll have not heard, the Bucs made some big cuts today. Derrick Brooks in Purple sounds very nice!

I think that’s more like the upgrade from Gus to Sage. If my grades are accurate, then doesn’t that change anybody’s mind, given the fact that 4th round picks don’t have a high rate of return?

Also, a C+ QB didn’t need the #1 or #2 defense to win one or more a playoff games in 2008.

Finally, if TJ plays well enough to keep the job for once, then even better that they didn’t spend more than a 4th round pick for not much better benchmeat.

…and building him into the system. He could be good.

honestly, i think a lot of sage’s problems were that he was forcing plays to try to make himself look better and win a starting job with the texans. if he wins the starting job and gets comfortable behind center, he might play like less of a cowboy. and that’s good because frankly sage doesn’t have the skill for that. i’ve always kind of liked sage and i hope he works out for y’all – and if he doesn’t, i’m sure you can get a texans fan to buy you a drink after he single-handedly blows a 17 point lead.

As a 40+ yr Viking Fan I have right to state my opinion, as well does others. But at least get facts straight. Sage does a better job ready defenses..Makes better throws. He has not played behind offensive line like Vikings and hopefully with a right OT replacement we will be better. And Sage has not had a RB like Peterson either..We do not need a Savior, just someone to run the west coast offense, let Petterson be the man he is and keep the opponets defense honest and not have 8 or 9 in box.

I would have preferred getting a higher upside go like Alex Smith, Matt Hasselbeck or David Carr. Why the hell do we always have to settle?

This all being said the quicker we lose Gus the happier I’ll be. I can’t believe we won games with him.

Chilly will say TJ won the training camp and preseason no matter what. He has to force TJ on the team or risk looking like an idiot for his selection. By the time he gets fired for it, it will be another season down the drain. Sage will be brought in to try to salvage the season, but will be affected again by being told all year he was not good enough by Chilly. Everyone knows what fragile egos QBs have so if you tell them they are second best long enough, they either beleive it , or do stupid shit trying too hard to prove you wrong. Our best hope is management sees Chillys unreasonable preference for TJ during training camp and the preseason and someone else is calling the shots before the regular season starts.

Loved your comments. Whether it is me or someone else ,you address an issue with thought and dignity for others. That goes for most posters here. A great bunch of folks. OK, enough hinny shining so here is what I am gathering from reading a variey of posts:
1. Ricky in Mex- We whine cause we are hungry. Everyone here loves the Vikings and I have not seen anyone change their alllegiance cause we have a bad opinion about something. I live in Florida and have to listen to these whining, arrogant Bucs and Dolphins fans. We have a loyal handful of Vikes fans and we have fun busting them. Ya kind of take on the world in areas dominated by other teams fans. We can come on here and bust each others chops but we still love our Vikes!

2. We all seem to pretty much agree that the QB scenario in FA and draft doesn’t look good. So we look at Sage’s upside and hope it carries over. It’s that or jackson becomes a phenom over the winter and spring. Probobly not!

3. No one really thinks Sage is the big answer. That may be good. No added pressure on him and maybe, just maybe, we’ll get lucky.

4. Did Sage ever have the supporting cast he does with the Vikes? Aside from Johnson was Houstons overall recieving corps that much better than the Vikes? Lots of writers seem to be looking at the half full cup and not looking at statistics as the end all prediction of Sages’ success or failure.

5. Seems like many of us are happy something was done to tell T-Jax to put up or we have someone else ready. We don’t have our hopes set too high but deep down we all seem to be ready to back Sage up if he gets the #1 nod.

6. Klink better make this work or it won’t be the QB’s we’ll be booing out of town

So readers. It does not look like a palmer or McNabb is coming to town. So hold on and hope for the best. I don’t think we’ll see any other QB’s coming our way . Better shore up the left side of the o-line if thats the case

I meant right side

Like him or not Bill Parcels is a pretty good football mind.

I still remember him vivadly describing the 3 keys to success in the NFL:

1) Quarterback Play
2) Defend the Run
3) Win the Turnover Battle

We seem to be missing out on #1 for the past who knows how many years and we just don’t seem to get how important it is. We should have thrown a bunch of money at Kurt Warner if you ask me.

There is a chance Garcia may still be on the shopping list. I just know he will insist on #1 billing. He and Grudenbutted heads over that.

Good one GeauxBears! :) I have to hold up my left hand to make the “L”.

Kurt Warner has decided to test the free agency market. He might not be the sexiest pick, but he is better than Sage and younger than Garcia. He would demand a lot of money, but he might be able to come in and lead this team for a couple years. I know some people are not sold on Warner, but I just look at what he did with the Cardinals. Sure they had the best WR duo in the league. But he didn’t have a running game. He is extremely accurate, and best of all he is a leader on and off the field. The Vikings have plenty of cap room to sign him to a 2 year deal. He would cost more than Cassel, but we wouldn’t have to give up any picks and the Vikings would know what they have in him, unlike Cassel who could be either really good or really bad. If we get him, the Vikings could go WR in the 1st round, giving Warner a more than capable receiving group.

but apparently he changed his mind. I think it’s mostly a ploy to use as leverage against the Cards. But either way, if he is going into free agency, he would be a welcome addition to the purple and gold!

P.S. GeauxBears… I feel sorry for the Bears trying to lure a QB in free agency. Most will turn them down simply because of the thought of having to worry about Jared Allen for 2 games every season!

I still don’t think Childress and Spielman get it. Jackson will not make it ever. He has had 3 years to get it right and never comes close. Rosenfels, I am defintely not sold on as the hope of now and the future, but then again, you never know. Now that teams have started clearing out the rosters, there are some very interesting names out there. Garcia is one, but would be a solution for about two years. Also, Kurt Warner as well, but would demand a premium unlike Garcia. Also, and some may laugh with these thoughts, how about Orlovsky and even Batch? Maybe not 10 years down the road, perhaps good enough for a few years, yet when both were in Detroit, even with crap teams, they seemed to be able to keep things afloat somewhat. Yeah, Orlovsky was on an 0-16 teams, but twice they scared the crap out of the Vikes and did a few other teams. There are a few others out there that may be worth looking at, but Garcia and Batch short term and perhaps Orlovsky more then that, well, a hell of alot better then Jackson. Still think though Childress and company have their hearts set on Jackson, swince they wanted to give him competition and motivation during preseason with Rosenfels. Could be a long 2009 folks.

is the best choice available in free agency. I don’t think Childress has any intention of adding him, otherwise he would already be here picking out his locker