Cassel vs. T-Jack

by NYCVike on Feb 6, 2009 10:52 AM CST Comment 8 comments

So all this Matt Cassel talk got me thinking. Here's a guy who steps into the best possible situation for a back-up Quarterback and I would say plays moderately well. The big question: "How much of the success of those 11 wins was Cassel and how much was the the other 21 guys on the field?"

If we are thinking about bringing this guy in to be our starting QB for, let's be honest what a big deal would mean, the next 6-7 years, then maybe the big question should be "How well would Tarvaris Jackson have done if he had replaced Brady instead of Cassel?" Think about it. I he had Randy Moss to lauch to deep and Wes Welker picking up twice the yards that Bobby Wade does, what would his stats look like? Would he be the guy people are talking about spending 14 million on for a season?

I think Cassel was probably less mistake prone than Tarvaris would have been, but Tarvaris could have had many more big plays than Cassel, especially with his running ability. As we know Randy Moss is the ultimate security blanket deep. If Tarvaris kept his deep passes in bounds Randy would have had a bigger season.

Of course what we really want to know is how good Cassel would be for us with the team we have in place, but its fair to think about what the reverse would bring. Personally, I think Cassel only has the potential to be a slight upgrade for us. Hardly worth selling the farm.

What do you guys think?

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Cassel will disappoint

Any guy who gets that offensive line, Randy Moss and 2 other good receivers will look good. Then add the coaching, it’s as easy a car to drive as the Viking offense.

Cassel may turn out to be good, but he won’t perform like he did in NE. The thing that will really hurt the team that gets him is the high salary that goes with him, not to mention lost draft picks.

However, Jackson is too raw and may be mentally ruined because he started too early. I don’t think either is a wise choice. Cassel would be good if no one trades for him and NE is forced to cut him, but trading for him costs too much.

Don’t make me use the F word on this post as well!

by newmexvike on Feb 6, 2009 12:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Any guy???

Why do we all assume that NE can make any QB look like a pro-bowler? If that was the case, then why would they bother paying a guy 14 million dollars to lead the team? There still has to be some talent there. Perhaps Bellichick and Co. are just THAT good at evaluating QB talent coming out of college.

I’m still on the skeptical side when it comes to Cassell, but I don’t understand the validity of the statement, “Any QB would be good in this system.”

V-I-K-I-N-G-S! Skol Vikings, Let's Go!!

by TheViking83 on Feb 6, 2009 4:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

well, almost any guy

ok, any guy might be a bit broad.

But, you have to admit that their O-line is solid. Randy Moss and Wes Welker are a pretty damn good 1, 2 punch. Randy is one of the best deep guys and Welker is reliable and dangerous as well. Not to mention NE is a great system.

Sorta like Denver or the Giants and the run. Jacobs is a stud, but all 3 of the Giant backs look awesome. The system is bigger than any individual.

I’m not saying Cassel is the worst option out there. But he won’t produce like a top ten QB in just any system. And he’s already getting top 5 pay for this year. NE would never go into the season paying him that money, but they are hoping someone will. And give up draft picks to boot.

I’d rather go after Jeff Garcia or Chris Simms. They’ll cost a lot less. The only way I would go after Cassel is if NE has to cut him. But, we know some team will step up and pay the price.

Of course, I would choose none of the above. I would either trade for McNabb or get Favre out of retirement. (There I said it.) Two first rounders would go a lot farther with McNabb than Cassel. But I think Philly will want more than that for McNabb. Which is why Favre is so attractive.

by newmexvike on Feb 6, 2009 8:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You Would Think He Was the Second Coming!

You should check out the conjecture in Risk Vs. Reward.

by LoveHate on Feb 6, 2009 2:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Link?

Got a link on that?

Personally, I don’t think Cassell makes sense for the Vikings. IMO, the risk is way too high. Granted, the reward is high too, but I think the odds are too heavy against Cassell working out. He’s got no track record, and no, I don’t think that any QB would look great in the NE offense. But Cassell would, because he’s trained with, and for, that offense. He has no history of doing anything else though… the Pats went 11-5 and didn’t do enough beat out the Wild Card competition to make the playoffs. I’m thinking, T-Jack did better than that.

by DCPurple on Feb 8, 2009 12:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs