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What's the Catch? Receivers' Falling Stock Is Potentially Good News for the Vikings

The Beloved Purple have been looking to upgrade at the wide receiver spot for a few years now, with varying degrees of success.  Bernard Berrian proved his mettle for the Vikings last season, and Bobby Wade has been a solid (if unspectacular) addition. . .while players like Troy Williamson and the internet's new most famous Viking blogger have disappointed to various degrees.  I expect that Sidney Rice will show us a vast improvement next season, but there's always the feeling that the Vikings could use a little more in that department.

So, this news from Pro Football Talk today might be encouraging for those Viking fans. . .among whom I count myself. . .that are hoping that at least one of Minnesota's several draft picks will be spent on wide receiving threats.

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In the same radio spot during which SI.com’s Tony Pauline explains that he stands behind what his sources have told him regarding Boston College defensive tackle B.J. Raji’s positive marijuana test result from the February Scouting Combine, Pauline claims that three receivers whom many regard as being round-one prospects might not be drafted until the second round, at the earliest.

Pauline pegs Florida’s Percy Harvin, Kenny Britt of Rutgers and North Carolina’s Hakeem Nicks as receivers who might not be receiving a first-round rookie contract.

Pauline describes Harvin as being on the fringes of round one, and Pauline says that Nicks will have a hard time getting in to the first 32 picks.  Pauline thinks that Britt will be shut out of the first round.

In addition, if this article from Judd Zulgad and Chip Scoggins is accurate, then the Vikings probably aren't considering Mr. Harvin. . .our original pick in the 2009 SBNation Mock Draft. . .at all.

The Vikings have eliminated 78 draft prospects from consideration, and that number could grow before the April 25-26 draft.

Vikings vice president of player personnel Rick Spielman said the prospects earned "red dots" primarily because of character and/or injury issues and were taken off the board. Spielman said that number is similar to that in previous drafts, and that the team conducts an extensive background check before deciding to eliminate players.

"Can't take the dot off," he said Friday. "It's a big scarlet tag, and you can't take it off."

Hmmmmmm. . .a guy who may or may not have tested positive for wacky tobacky at the Combine that hasn't flat our denied it at this point?  Yep. . .sounds like a big ol' red flag to me.

As Florio's post points out, last year there were zero wide receivers selected in the first round of the draft.  The first receiver taken last year was Donnie Avery, chosen by the St. Louis Rams with the second pick of the second round (number 34 overall).  However, although they were nowhere to be found in Round One, nearly one-third of the second-round selections were wide receivers.  Those players were

-Donnie Avery, St. Louis (#34 overall)
-Devin Thomas, Washington (#35 overall)
-Jordy Nelson, Green Bay (#37 overall)
-James Hardy, Buffalo (#41 overall)
-Eddie Royal, Denver (#42 overall)
-Jerome Simpson, Cincinnati (#46 overall)
-DeSean Jackson, Philadelphia (#48 overall)
-Malcolm Kelly, Washington (#51 overall)
-Limas Sweed, Pittsburgh (#53 overall)
-Dexter Jackson, Tampa Bay (#58 overall)

As you can see from that list of names, they had varying degrees of success as rookies.  To be honest, I would expect a similar Round 2 run this year, if what Tony Pauline is reporting is correct.  The only two receivers that, at this point, appear to be locks for the first round of the draft are Texas Tech's Michael Crabtree and Missouri's Jeremy Maclin.  Neither one of those two are expected to reach Minnesota's spot in the first round.  So, it might be wise for Minnesota to address another position in the first round. . .possibly offensive tackle or defensive back. . .and address the wide receiver spot in Round Two.

Who are those receivers that they might look at in the second round?  Well, if I told you now, you might not come back tomorrow. . .and that would be a shame, because we're going to go through some of those second-round type of receivers tomorrow sometime.

Until then, enjoy the last two hours and fifteen minutes of your Saturday, and have a great Easter Sunday, ladies and gentlemen!

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I think they’ll be looking to adress OL in the second round, so the first round, to me, is either going to be BPA or a CB. It’d be nice to nab both at once.

by Frost on Apr 11, 2009 10:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

Can’t help but agree but, I sure am having trouble figuring out (guessing) who those players might be. Should be interesting to say the least. I’m thinking it will be WR then OT.

by CitrusFLViking on Apr 12, 2009 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As much as I like Nicks

I think #22 is a bit high for him and if we could get him at #54 he would then be a steal. I see him and Harvin going early in the second and then we would have to see who falls to us at that point. I think our 2nd rd. choice is going to be harder to make than our 1st rd. will be. I am all for trading down in the 1st rd. to pick up a pick or two or maybe even more. We could use the extra picks being we don’t have a 4th or a 6th rd. pick this year and we only had 5 picks last year with 3 of those being potential backups and not seeing the field much.

by nmvikesfan on Apr 11, 2009 11:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m not sure Nicks would fall past the Giants.

by mjschaefer on Apr 12, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unless they land Chad Johnson.

by Lofoten on Apr 12, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DHB

Darrius Heyward Bey, a WR from Maryland, is looking like a 1st rounder too. So there may be many WR’s prospects available in the second round. We can only hope. If the Viking brain trust is smart, IMO, and waits until the third round to select a WR; look for Brandon Gibson from Wash. St. to be our pick.

by Odin on Apr 11, 2009 11:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Many ways to go with the draft

I would agree with not drafting Nicks in the first, and actually, I am thinking not drafting any in the second either. My feelings is along with what Frost said. Have much more glaring positions to go after. No, our WR isnt the greatest. but Berrian is good, Wade good enough and if Rice is really focusing himself as he states, think he could finally break through. At most, I would use only one pick on a WR. Definately would not hurt to look into a decent QB as well. Definately someone who could challenge TJ or Sage in a year or two and nope, definately not Booty that is for sure. But much more important hole’s to address with the draft.

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by VikesFaninNM on Apr 12, 2009 9:32 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Booty

Why not booty? A big indication of that should come this year when preseason games are all said and done.
Then again I wonder why Booty wasnt included in the QB competition. Chilly must know something we dont. (lol).

by LAviking on Apr 12, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have watched Booty in his preseason games and that boy just doesnt have the mechanics to be an NFL quarterback. I am surprised that he hasnt been cut or traded.

by Lofoten on Apr 12, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it’s a little early to judge Booty on his first ever pre-season. I’d have to agree that he definitely sucked it up in the games. He didn’t show much arm strength, and that heralded accuracy didn’t exactly show up either. But he didn’t have time. Chase Johnson was giving defenders a sack-lunch.

I’d be willing to at least see what he’s capable of doing this preseason.

by Frost on Apr 12, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Booty was so inept in last years pre-season that was comical, but that was almost a year ago and the lad hasn’t been cut yet so maybe he’s showing some flashes that are worth waiting for. Certainly there’s nothing to be lost at this point by waiting to see if he’s learning something.

by DCPurple on Apr 13, 2009 7:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't be against going either way

but we do need a better #2 Reciever…We also need an offensive tackle…If we Take Britton and possibly a Harvin or Kenny Britt in round two i would be cool with that but i will also be cool with going Reciever in Round 1 and then Taking a guy like Phil Loadholt in round 2.

by Tony_O on Apr 12, 2009 10:18 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Harvin visits...

In the same article about “red-dotting” prospects with potential character issues, Chip and Zudd list guys the Vikings are bringing in for a visit. Percy Harvin is included, which seems to indicate that the teams has not eliminated him on the basis of his failed whiz quiz.

by Anthony Carter on Apr 12, 2009 1:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Reading is Fundamental

And I, apparently, missed that part of the article. My bad.

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by Gonzo on Apr 12, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read an article today

and I can’t remember where, but they were talking like the Vikings were going to go after an O lineman in the first round and then address a D tackle next. Anybody see that, or have I been tipping the Coors a bit too much today? LOL

by stilpony on Apr 12, 2009 10:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t see it simply for the reason that the DT class this draft is weak. Doesn’t make sense to me to go after a DT with a high pick like the second round if he’s not going to be able to immediately start.

by Frost on Apr 12, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’d start given the situation with the Williams Wall.

by mjschaefer on Apr 13, 2009 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They just re-signed Evans and Kennedy. They drafted LeTroy Guion last year and he played in K Will’s spot when he was out. Don’t think they need to use a high pick on a DT IMO.

by vikingfuture8816 on Apr 13, 2009 2:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And then he’d be like 4th on the depth chart after 4 games, assuming they lose their case.

Really, the good DTs this draft should be gone in the first round. After that, you get some one-dimensional guys.

by Frost on Apr 13, 2009 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The more time goes by,

the more I like the idea of trading down in this draft.

Going by the trade value chart, Miami would be intriguing to make an offer to. Their two second round picks(44, 56) have about the same value as our first at 22.

by Bjorno on Apr 13, 2009 1:24 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just remember to take everything with a grain of salt

As the draft gets closer and closer—only twelve short days away, thank God—remember that this is the time of year when you can’t trust anything a GM or coach says about the draft. The closer it is to draft day, the more likely what you hear from NFL front office folks is at least half BS. GMs and coaches are constantly posturing to the media to help their own cause and/or public perception of what they plan to do in the draft, and they’ll say just about anything if they think it’ll help them get their guys.

That said, I still wouldn’t be against getting a WR with the 22nd pick after reading this. If there are more available than we anticipated, then all the better for us.

by ericj69 on Apr 13, 2009 10:21 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Draft pick

If we want to move up in the draft the viking need to offer of Taylor. Reason for this he has only one year remaining on his contract and he won’t be a RA. As much as I like him we also need to get something for him.

by kik on Apr 13, 2009 12:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The more I watch, the more I want Maclin.

After watching all the highlights from the receivers that should go in the first round, I realize Maclin is probably the most talented one of them all.

Sure, Crabtree looks good and everyone remembers that catch to win the Texas Vs Texas Tech game.

But Maclin has some very impressive vision and patience, as well as the speed and agility to take advantage of those skills. I think he is more dangerous out in the open there than Harvin is.

The chances of him falling that far are slim, but if he is there I say pull the freaking trigger.

by Bjorno on Apr 13, 2009 2:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I doubt...

Either will last past pick ten. Maclin won’t get past Al Davis.

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by Manimal on Apr 13, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And to think, we were once projected to have Maclin available to us in pre-combine drafts.

by Frost on Apr 13, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know Crabtree won't go far,

But there is still a chance that Crabtree might fall to the Raiders, leaving Maclin out there.

by Bjorno on Apr 13, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who will probably be snapped up by the Jaguars.

by Frost on Apr 13, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well this whole thing is a bunch of what if's...

More of the mock drafts I have seen have Jacksonville snapping up Sanchez or Andre Smith if they are still there.

I know there is slim to no chance of him landing in our laps, I even mentioned that in the original post.

But with the Bears no longer having a pick before us, and Jacksonville possibly going QB or OT, who else could snap up Maclin before us?

by Bjorno on Apr 13, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to mention...

The fact that Jacksonville is looking to trade out of the top ten.

by Bjorno on Apr 13, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Word is the Jets are looking for WR too. I dunno if the Jags will actually take Sanchez. Garrard isn’t a bad QB. They could do alot worse than him.

by Frost on Apr 13, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just saw Maclin on the Jim Rome show

Man this kid is a football player. If there is any way he slips to 22, the Vikings would be fools to not pull the trigger. (Although I do not think there is any way he slips out of the top half of the draft.

by PurplePeopleEaters09 on Apr 13, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Same feelings here man

I am just trying to figure out which teams would draft a WR, and which teams might pick him on a value-based assessment.

It seems like Oakland, Jacksonville, Tampa Bay and The New York Jets are the only ones who could go that route.

Cincy may very well be lurking in that area as well, considering the rumors of #85 being shopped.

But with Edwards being shopped, and Holt still out on the FA market, two of those teams might change their direction if they get a hold of either player.

With Jacksonville wanting to get out of the top ten, they could very well make a run at Edwards. They might even sign Holt and trade down.

I can have pipe dreams, but usually I have to put stuff in the pipe first.

by Bjorno on Apr 13, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

Pipe dreams. Great stuff.

by PurplePeopleEaters09 on Apr 13, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll be the first to admit....

that when it comes to college player evaluations, I know squat. I do know that in the last 10 drafts there have been 18 wide receivers selected in the first 10 picks and today only 4 of them are even worth mentioning:

Calvin Johnson
Larry Fitzgerald
Andre Johnson
Torry Holt

Calvin still has to prove his durability. I would have mentioned Plaxico Burress, but we know where he’s playing this year. David Boston didn’t play last year and he only had 2 good years with the Cardinals. Every other receiver chosen in the top 10 has been mediocre at best:

Tedd Ginn, Jr.
Santonio Holmes
Braylon Edwards
Troy Williamson
Mike Williams
Roy Williams
Reggie Williams
Charles Rogers
David Terrell
Koren Robinson
Peter Warrick
Travis Taylor

I feel that if there is not a receiver in this year’s draft comparable to one of the top 4 listed, it is pointless to use our 1st pick on a wide receiver. Does anyone think that any of the receivers being mentioned as top picks this year compare to these any of these 4 guys. If not, then let’s do what is best for the team and not take a chance on a “need” pick. Get the best available guy.

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by NobleSavage on Apr 13, 2009 3:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agree totally,

and that is good analisys. Recievers in the first round have a very high bust rate, wich is one of the reasons not one reciever was drafted in the first round last year. good recievers fell to the top of the second round, and probable will again this year. if we really want a WR we should trade down into the early 2 round to pick of a WR.

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by the Real Thor on Apr 13, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think...

Crabtree is a top 10 pick this year. Maclin will be gone in the first half. All the other WR’s will slip into the 2nd round.

by PurplePeopleEaters09 on Apr 13, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So if they don't become All-Pros they aren't worth taking?

That doesn’t make much sense. A better analysis would be the amount of receivers taken after round one that became starting WR.

FWIW, Holmes would be a better receiver if he wasn’t in Pittsburgh - still a run-first town and always will be. Ginn has a lot of value as a kick returner and had a fairly good year last year. Edwards was pretty awesome in 2007‘08, and the Browns didn’t have anyone playing the QB position well last year. All of those guys are pretty young, so they make yet have a big break out season. Roy Williams has also been an awfully good player playing on horrible teams — he had a damn good season and just made one of the better WR’s in the last decade expendable in Dallas. He’ll have a huge year next year being the #1 target in Dallas.

The rest of those guys have been busts — but there’s more first round QB’s out of football than first round WR’s. And if you look at Mike Williams career at USC or Charles Rogers’ career at Michigan State and didn’t think they were going to be a solid to great NFL WR’s, you’re defining the phrase “hindsight is 20/20”.

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by fourstick on Apr 14, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate HTML

not supposed to be a strike-through there.

Also, FWIW, Troy Williamson is probably the worst first round pick not named Demetrious Underwood in Viking history. Poorly scouted, poorly researched. When you’re drafting a WR who’s never caught more than 25 balls in a season, you might want to let him drop past the #7 overall pick.

Williamson probably would have been on the board in the second round as no other team had him on their first round board.

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by fourstick on Apr 14, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Williamson got open at least. If only he could catch.

by Frost on Apr 14, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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