Vikings Not EmBoldined By Cardinals Receiver
The Arizona Cardinals have let it be known that stud wide receiver Anquan Boldin is on the trading block. According to numerous sources, the price for Boldin has been set at a first-round and third-round draft choice.
Numerous teams are thought to be interested in Boldin, including the Eagles, the Ravens, and (depending on your source) the Vikings. Access Vikings has said that the Beloved Purple aren't interested in dealing for Boldin, presumably because of the price tag the Cardinals have put on Boldin. Not only that, but Boldin would also more than likely be seeking a contract extension worth $8-9 million a year.
This situation really isn't all that similar to last year's trade for Jared Allen, The reason I make that statement is that the Chiefs used the franchise tag on Jared Allen in 2008. There were rumors that had the Vikings not traded for Allen prior to the 2008 draft, they were going to sign him to an offer sheet right after the draft and give up their first-round picks in 2009 and 2010. Obviously, they worked out a deal before that, and the Vikings got the guy they wanted while, in theory, giving up less than they would have by signing a franchise player to an offer sheet. The Vikings were probably going to select a defensive end at the #17 spot in 2008, and essentially gave up two third-round choices for a player that they already knew was a stud at the position. Considering the draft day deal that the Jaguars made to move up and select Derrick Harvey, the Vikings made a pretty wise decision.
Boldin isn't in that situation. He hasn't had the franchise tag placed on him, and the Cardinals, in theory, really don't have to trade him anywhere. They don't have to give him a contract extension. They can just have a ticked-off Anquan Boldin on the roster not playing and not producing, which really doesn't benefit him or the Cardinals.
Now, don't get me wrong here. Given the choice, if we're going to draft a receiver in Round One anyway, I'd love to give up the extra #3 in order to acquire Boldin, because I think he's a truly great wide receiver. However, the problem with this is the involvement of the Philadelphia Eagles. Yes, the Eagles traded a first-round pick to the Buffalo Bills the other day to acquire offensive tackle Jason Peters. . .but they traded the 28th pick that they got from Carolina during the 2008 Draft (that allowed the Panthers to select OT Jeff Otah). That means they still have the #21 overall pick in Round One.
The Eagles select one spot higher than the Vikings in every round of the draft. This means that if the asking price is a #1 and a #3 for Boldin, Philly's #1 and #3 are both higher than our #1 and #3. . .so, in order to surpass that, we'd have to offer our #1 and #2 instead. There are probably other teams interested, too, and their picks might even trump the Eagles' picks. Nobody knows for sure. But with that in mind, what kind of offer could the Vikings seriously make that would just blow up their entire 2009 draft?
We gutted our 2008 draft to acquire Jared Allen, and it did a world of good for our defense. Would doing the same thing to acquire Anquan Boldin do the same thing for our offense in 2009? I'm not so sure that it would. After all, our quarterback play is still a question mark, and the production of a wide receiver depends greatly on the play of the QB, whereas a DE like Allen could make a difference all by himself. If we were more stable at quarterback, I'd be jumping up and down and screaming for the Vikings to get something done here.
But we're not. And we're not going to be any time soon.
That, in my opinion, is why this team doesn't appear to be serious about chasing Anquan Boldin. Is it a good reason? I don't know. . .that's up to everyone else to decide. Just my opinion as to why it doesn't appear that Anquan Boldin is going to be wearing purple. . .or, at least, Viking purple. . .any time soon.
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Acually, we wouldn’t need to give up our #1 and #2 if the Eagles were giving their #1 and #3. We’d just have to throw in an extra pick, like a fifth or something. But the Eagles do have more picks than us, so that probably wouldn’t work anyways.
by Frost on Apr 18, 2009 10:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No surprise. Not too disappointed because I didn’t think it had a chance of happening anyways.
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by FarvaForTheVikings on Apr 18, 2009 10:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Boldin's 29 and I don't like giving up those kinds of $$$s
to a receiver whose numbers were aided by having the great Larry Fitzgerald on the other side of the field from him. I thought the Vikes might make a low-ball run at Torry Holt but it looks like he’s headed to Jacksonville.
by VikingBillArlingtonVA on Apr 18, 2009 11:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hold that thought............
Boldin put up good #’s when Fitzgerald was hurt …………………..he would CERTAINLY help out our cause but, the question is……………IS HE WORTH IT?
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by PAtxMADDENKING on Apr 19, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And coupled with the fact that he has had a tiff with the team the last few years about playing time and money. Sound familiar? The more I look into him, I am starting to see a little of the “me” attitude like Moss had when he was here and Owens has no matter where he has been and as the Bills will soon find out. No, I am NOT denighing his abilities. I don’t think anyone would have been motivated to come back as quickly as he did when getting their face nearl knocked off, I am just getting more and more leary of his attitude. Im sure A.P. would love to be running every down racking up 200 or more yards a game, but he doesnt and you dont see him upset over it. It’s a team game. Yes, the blow-up he had in the playoffs was only once, but the crying about playing time hasent. To quote Han Solo “I’m getting a baaaaad feeling about this.” I think if we do sign a F.A. WR, we can do a little better moneywise, or at the most draft one. His price is going to be way to steep and I dont think he is worth it anyways. I don’t think we have all that bad of a WR situation even if Berrian and Wade are not the greatest and I think Rice just may step up this year. I’d rather trade/sign/trade for someone we do need, O-Line.
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by VikesFaninNM on Apr 19, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you serious?
Boldin’s complaints about money are as legitimate a complaint as there has been. He’s been with the team longer than Fitz, he’s been over 1,000 yards in 4 of his 6 seasons in the league (3 of 5 with Fitzgerald sapping his reception numbers).
He’s basically been putting up similar numbers to Fitz his entire career and is currently getting less than half the money.
This is a prime example of the difficulties caused when a top 10 player gets a $60 million dollar contract. The other receiver who happens to be a Pro Bowler in his own right (Boldin was elected to the Pro Bowl as a rookie with no Fitz and Jeff Blake/Josh McCown at QB), gets significantly less money because he was a 2nd round pick. Fix the rookie contracts NFL!
by Cobra312004 on Apr 19, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even with similar numbers...
I don’t think anyone would ever confuse the two.
Anquan =/= Fitzy.
Fitzgerald, as ericj69 has previously said, is like the Predator.
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by Manimal on Apr 20, 2009 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That may be true...
…but that doesn’t mean that he’s worth HALF of what Fitzgerald is making, which is his prime beef with the Cardinals. Fitzgerald has said that he would defer money to make room for Anquan, which says to me that Larry knows he won’t be able to run free in the secondary without a great WR on the other side of the field. Ask Randy Moss how much it sucked to play in Minnesota after CC retired — running long routes against bracketed two-deep coverage totally sucks ass.
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by fourstick on Apr 20, 2009 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ummmmmmmmm
Boldin was a franchise level receiver BEFORE Larry Fitzgerald arrived. Here’s his rookie year in 2003, that’s a record number of receptions for a rookie wide receiver, in case you were wondering.
Here’s his second season, which also happened to be Fitzgerald’s rookie year. He played in only 10 games because of injury and put up nearly the same numbers as Fitz did through a full 16 game season.
The guy is a first rate talent, and NFL WR are generally productive into their mid-30’s, especially when they’re possession type receivers (read: big, quality route runners), which is what Boldin is. The difference between him and someone like Keyshawn Johnson is that Boldin also has breakaway speed, so he can take the ball to the house when he catches it in the middle of the field.
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by fourstick on Apr 20, 2009 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never Draw to an Inside Straight
I concur that we just don’t have the cards to steal this Card. It’s like the old farmer said, you can’t get there from here. I’d be less surprised if the starting Viking QB is Michael Vick than if I wind up seeing Boldin wearing purple this year. I’d rather talk about something more realistic, like how much Rice should soak Rosenfels for privilege of wearing the number 18.
by Elgar on Apr 18, 2009 11:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Boldin was good before Fitz was lined up with him
101 catches and 1,377 yards as a rookie on a team that went 4-12
The Vikings quarterback situation is the exact reason this is a great player to get. Boldin is a receiver that can make his quarterback better. He excels in turning short, easily completed passes into long and productive plays. Whether we have Sage or Tarvaris under center, having a big receiver that they can dump off short passes to and turn them into big gains will make us more dangerous on offense.
Give them the 1st, 3rd and a 3rd next year and let’s get this offense rolling.
by Cobra312004 on Apr 18, 2009 11:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Vikings paid Berrian similar money to what Boldin is asking for. No matter the picks, the Vikings aren’t going to be paying 2 WRs that much money.
by vikingfuture8816 on Apr 19, 2009 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
He wants a contract similar to Fitz’s 4yr 40 million contract. No way the vikes are using 20 million/year on a pair of receivers. No team in the NFL does that. Like it or not Berrian is our #1 unless a draft pick can steal the #1 away from him, and Rice aint going to to it. I for one hope we don’t draft Percy Harvin, I would much rather reach for a OL or DE than waste our pick on what appears to be a troublesome WR from Florida which can’t seem to produce NFL quality players.
by vikedawg on Apr 19, 2009 3:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't gut your draft every year
Because eventually it’s going to catch up to you. I think you can do a trade like that every other year or third year, but if you go back to back you cost your team a lot of depth and quality in the long run.
Is this the one piece the Vikings need to win the Super Bowl? No, it isn’t. If Sagevaris Jacksonfels can get the damn ball to the receivers he already has, this is a legitimate top 10 offense.
It’s the quarterback, not the WR that will make or break this team.
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by MilCardFan on Apr 19, 2009 8:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I disagree, you put two very good WRs with a Crappy QB and you can have success.. i.e. Kurt Warner’s whole career.
What up?
by snakethejake on Apr 19, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um, no offense
but calling Kurt Warner a crappy QB pretty much invalidates your point.
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by MilCardFan on Apr 19, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s see, guy’s been too 3 superbowls with two differant teams, combined record of 1-2? So I guess what youre saying is since Tarkenton is 0 – 3 in the Superbowl, he sucked and didnt deserve to be in the hall of fame where as Warner is crappy for winning at least 1? Interesting. It must have been our WR’s back then making Fran look that good, or the WR’s making Bradshaw, Montana, Rothlesberger, Kelly, Aikmen, Staubach, Marino and Unitus look good, nothing about the fact that all of them are/were good including Warner?
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by VikesFaninNM on Apr 19, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe, but i’m just saying look at the receivers he’s had over the good seasons of his career.
What up?
by snakethejake on Apr 19, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
show me a great QB
and I’ll show you his great receiver. no QB can be great without a) protection to throw the ball, b) good receivers. You can only do so much with decent receivers, to be great you need great ones.
by Cobra312004 on Apr 19, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Drew Brees
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by MilCardFan on Apr 19, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again, I wouldn't have been against making a run at Boldin
but not at the $$s indicated. If signing FA’s was the way to build a champion Dannyboy Snyder would have five rings by now. You build winners through the draft and especially in the second and third rounds where you get good value.
If Rice commits himself to working harder at his game, i.e., getting stronger and running better patterns I think he can be the legit slant guy the WC offense calls for but that’s a big if. Shiancoe also came through bigtime last year and let’s hope that continues. And I like Bobby Wade’s toughness in the slot although he’s never going to put up big numbers. I don’t think the dope smoking thing with Harvin’s all that big a deal. My guess is that if he’s available the Vikes take him. Heyward-Bey from MD is a burner but he has questionable hands.
Still, all the receivers in the world aren’t going to mean squat if the Vikes can’t protect the qb and I’m keeping my fingers crossed that somehow the loss of Birk and still no answer at ROT will somehow work out.
by VikingBillArlingtonVA on Apr 19, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the dope is a big deal only because he knows he’s going to get tested. Everybody knows they do drug tests at the combine. And the guy couldn’t even save that for a day or two. That’s not saying it will effect his game or anything, but it sure as hell doesn’t look like he’s too bright right now.
by Frost on Apr 19, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Joe Montana. And Philip Rivers. And Dan Marino.
by Jordinho on Apr 20, 2009 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love to have him BUT . . .
Look he’s a great oft injured WR. But we still need a RT – First round please. We only have six total picks in the draft. Just think we need depth everywhere. Its more important.
by briano29 on Apr 19, 2009 11:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Depth is great
You can also fill in great depth by signing other team’s castoffs to the practice squad and bringing in free agent players who weren’t drafted and giving them a shot at making the team. The Giants and Pats have been doing this for years with great success. They’ve also traded down a lot in the draft to stash middle round draft picks to draft for value there instead of paying huge sums of money to first round picks.
Unfortunately, the Vikings haven’t done very well drafting for value in the middle rounds since Denny Green left, and they haven’t done a very good job of evaluating talent — like trading away the middle rounds of a draft to get Tarvaris Jackson. I’d rather they traded away the whole draft to get a proven difference maker like Cutler or Boldin than to keep those picks and draft “depth” positions.
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by fourstick on Apr 20, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, if the Cards were smart about this, they wouldn’t trade Boldin before the draft.
If I were them, I’d ride Boldin all the way through week 6, give him plenty of passes to let him showcase his skills off, and then sucker some team into trading away the upcoming draft for him. If Detroit can get a first, third, and sixth for Williams, I’d imagine it wouldn’t be a big stretch to see Arizona get even more for Boldin.
by Frost on Apr 19, 2009 4:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Getting the best
The Vikings demonstrated this year their absolute commitment to T-Jack and Rosenfels at the helm, and the decent receiver corps currently fielded. There was no serious intent to improve any of those positions, so I have to presume that Speilman and Childress feel those are the best best players at those positions who are available, and that they believe the Vikings can win the Super Bowl in 2009 with the roster pretty much as it stands right now.
Otherwise, they’d’ve gotten Garcia, or Cutler, or Cassel.
Otherwise, they’d’ve gotten Housh, or Holt, or Bolden.
Because if they don’t think that this group is going all the way, then they’ve deliberately built and maintained a team good enough to make the playoffs, but not much better.
by DCPurple on Apr 20, 2009 6:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
agree on the QB's
Disagree on Housh. TJ Housh was brought in. The Vikings tried. But he decided to go where the money was. I like the fact that the Vikings brought in TJ, and I like the fact that they didn’t get into a bidding war and over pay even more.
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on Apr 20, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boldin
I’ve seen some pretty ordinary receivers look fantastic because of a QB that could put the ball between the numbers almost every time. I’ve also seen some pretty ordinary QB’s that looked much better than they really were because of a reciever that would catch any ball that landed in the same time zone. The point is, the Vikes don’t have either one right now, and it looks like it will be that way for at least this season. Therefore giving up a #1 and #2 like the Vikes would likely have to do to beat out Phily, or another team for Boldin seems like a bad idea to me. Better to fix the OT position and get another pass rusher on “D”. Then if and when a franchise QB is available, secure that player and get a receiver for him to go to. Until those things happen, and the window is only open for a short time, I’m afraid that the Vikes are going to remain a possible Division contender, but not much more. Hope I’m wrong, but bet I’m not.
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by Frankman on Apr 20, 2009 11:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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