Why the Vikes will draft a LB in round 1
Okay, so after looking at all the draft stuff I can stand, I think the Vikes are going to go with a LB, I really do. Let me walk this logic backwards:
Percy Harvin is probably off the board, and Childress said before the draft last season, I think it was, that WR’s in general are really a crap shoot in the first round, and I agree, so I don’t see them going in that direction. RB is not a need, and I think the TOA doesn’t believe QB is. I must grudgingly give it up for Shiancoe, as he really emerged last season, so TE is off the board, eliminating all skill positions.
That leaves the o-line. Sullivan looks to be the next Matt Birk, and Herrera and Hutch are a pretty good guard tandem. McKinnie is locked in at LT, and I think with Ryan Cook you have what I call Tarvaris Jackson syndrome. Cook was a high round Childress pick, like Jackson, and Childress has a lot in terms of reputation on the line to see the kid succeed, much like Jackson, albeit not as much as he has invested with TJ. Many detractors think he was taken too high, like Jackson, and as a player, Cook has yet to achieve what the coaches envisioned him doing when drafted, much like Jackson. He’s also shown flashes of good play with maddening periods of mediocrity and inconsistency, also like Jackson. And I think Cook showed enough last year to warrant giving him ample opportunity to remain the RT, but he has got to cut down on his penalties.
On the d-line, DE appears to be set, especially with Kenechi Udeze coming back, which will be a huge emotional lift. DT looks good as well. After re-signing Jimmy Kennedy and Fred Evans, there’s really no room for a new guy. You can make an argument for DB, especially with Antoine Winfield getting up there, but they re-signed Benny Sapp, signed Carl Paymah as a FA, and already had decent depth for both CB and S. I can see adding a guy in the later rounds, but I don’t see DB as a first round pick, especially when you factor in who’s probably available.
That leaves LB. EJ’s coming off of an injury, Ben Leber is good, but is north of 30, and after Chad Greenway, there really isn’t anyone that can jump in and start. Erin Henderson? No. Heath Farwell? Good special teams guy, but not really. I mean, they had to bring Napoleon Harris back after EJ got hurt. Nap did a great job as a stopgap, but they let him go again. So LB is very thin after you get past the starters. Almost every mock draft I see has either James Laurinaitis, Ray Maualuga, or both available at that spot. Both are high character guys, both have great college pedigrees, and yeah, you think I want them to pick Laurinaitis because he’s a Buckeye, but he can also play on the outside, and he’s a local Minnesota kid. Childress hit the jackpot with the ‘local kid, Big 10 LB, high character guy’ trifecta with Greenway in 2006, and that has to be factored in as well.
So with everyone screaming for the Vikes to take a tackle, I think the Vikes mildly surprise some folks and go with either Maualuga or Laurinaitis. If they’re both on the board, it’s Laurinaitis.
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I really hope you're wrong.
That said, you make good arguments. I think OT is still the most likely, but I can see if the BPA is a LB, then it could definitely happen.
Leber is going to be solid for a few more years, and Farwell is a great backup to every LB position, so I don’t see a huge need unless two guys go down.
Interesting idea though. I can see it as a possibility.
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by Manimal on Apr 23, 2009 9:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The one thing could mildly blow this out of the water is that it depends on who’s available. Your logic is sound, no denying that, but this is the F.O. that took a RB with the 7th overall pick after their starter ran for something like 1400 yards and double digit TDs the season before.
If, for some reason, a remarkable skill player falls into their laps at 22, I doubt they’ll pass him up.
by Frost on Apr 23, 2009 10:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly, so they’re likely to try it again. I wasn’t knocking them for doing it, I was just saying that they won’t necessarily draft a player based on need.
by Frost on Apr 23, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The whole Ryan Cook thing being like T-Jack is not the same. They are not going into this season without some competition for him. I don’t think they would take a LB in the first round unless its the best player available. And I don’t think Percy Harvin will be off the board hes stock as fallen since he was smokin dope before the drug test not to bright.
by Zoxide on Apr 23, 2009 10:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I meant off the Vikes board
Sorry, should’ve clarified that better
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by MilCardFan on Apr 23, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless its Aaron Curry..
I sincerely hope we don’t draft a LB until the 5th. I agree there’s gonna be great value at 22 for the position, but I hope that leads to us being able to trade back rather than take a LB.
by NYCVike on Apr 23, 2009 10:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d be okay with a LB actually. Please a ROLB so I can replace Leber on Madden. He’s only an 82 :(
by Frost on Apr 23, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love it!
Your hope of a Vikings pick based upon how it effects you in the Madden game. Truly, you have set your priorities to what is important. LOL
by Odin on Apr 23, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I personally love it when my love of real vikes football and madden vikes football come together. Like genuinely hoping TJack becomes our franchise QB so we can dominate on both.
Or like wanting Harvin with our first round pick cuz I think he could be a huge playmaker for us and would be wonderful to replace bobby wade with on madden.
Now somebody tell chilly to draft a CB in Rd 2 and Pat White in Rd 3 and i’ll be as happy as a dog with two peckers come sunday night.
by Hoss-Drone on Apr 23, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In my Madden franchise
T-Jax is a franchise QB. I’ve got him up to 93 overall, and that killer speed is SOOO helpful. Now, if it only was that easy in real life……
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by TheViking83 on Apr 23, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got frustrated...
After two games and traded him for Roethlisberger. His accuracy, somehow, was off way too often. Or maybe I was just rusty.
Either way, problem solved. And it only took my first, second, and Tarvaris Jackson to seal the deal.
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by Manimal on Apr 23, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, you're right
His accuracy is horrible in the game.
But after a season or two, and training him in the passing drill in between games, he became quite the stud for me.
Juice Williams is his backup :)
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by TheViking83 on Apr 23, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His accuracy blows in ‘09 to start with. It’s something like an abbysmal 79. Booty has an 84 somehow. So you really can’t depend on Jackson to win it with his arm in ‘09. Hopefully they bump it up to at least 85 in ’10, but I doubt it. They’ll forget his spectacular games to finish the season and only remember the second half of the Philly game more than likely.
by Frost on Apr 23, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
makes sense
but i dont believe chilly is “tied to his draft picks”
i wonder how this becamse a “common accepted fact” that chilress has an ego and puts it before the teams success. something maybe some asshole at the strib wrote then the chilly haters latched onto? there is no words in any press conferences that show his ego re: these players.
and he’s left t jack out to hang many times.. letting him know he has to do better etc. he has been on a short leash the whole time
the only reason artis hicks didnt remain the starter was cuz he got hurt.
and these positions aren’t that hard to get better at…
he could turn it around, it’s not like being a WR or QB.
im not worried about it. our line, as if is, is still really really good
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by Crom on Apr 23, 2009 2:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
TJ, Griffin, and Cook
Chilly would not have allowed any other QB to post the passer rating he did in 2007 for a full season AND come back without much competition for the starting job (AND guarantee that whomever did sort of challenge him would only be around for a year). He is DEFINITELY attached to TJ.
Chilly refuses to move Griffin to nickel or safety despite being one of the worst CBs in the NFL in terms of cushion allowed, success rate, and passer rating allowed. He led all CBs in tackles, and he does tackle well, but he accumulated those by allowing passes to be completed to the guy he was covering. Less denial about Griffin as a CB could have spared the team the expense of signing M. WIlliams, and the $ could have been spent elsewhere.
Ryan Cook had been a problem for more than a full season by the time he demoted him. How long of a leash did Marcus Johnson get? Exactly.
Picks spent on the QB quandary:
TJ, 2nd round 2006
Brooks Bollinger, 6th round 2006 + DT CJ Moseley
Kelly Holcomb, acq. in 2007 for a 6th round in 2008(?)
Tyler Thigpen, 7th round 2007
JDB, 5th round 2008
That’s a year’s worth of draft picks by 2008 standards, plus another worthwhile player!
Holcomb’s veteran 1-year presence prevented Thigpen from making the team while JDB made Bollinger expendable. These are dumb moves simply for not aiming high enough when trading for a “veteran presence”, ending up with worse QB play than a young guy like Thigpen would have given the team with zero upside or potential to grow, or even to just stick around for 3-4 years as an able warm body. At least these somewhat go to your point that Childress didn’t give Thigpen much of a chance at all (althought that was in favor of Holcomb, the more familiar loyalist) and never seemed very attached to Bollinger.
Sidney Rice is quickly falling into this category, too, if no WR is drafted tomorrow.
by KC Viking on Apr 24, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What he said
Chilly does hang on to ‘his guys’ longer than he should, although I don’t think Griffin is as bad as KC Viking portrays him. But I’m just going on anecdotal evidence, not impirical.
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by MilCardFan on Apr 24, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your logic is persuasive but certainly not ironclad. It did though make me stop and think that its a possibility we take Laurinitis in round 1. That would be fine with me but it would also make me sad because then we dont get the high caliber WR and CB talent we so desperately need.
I said it on another board: for me it would be Harvin, a CB and White in the first three rounds. Maybe a LB in the 4th, a Kliensasser replacement round 5 and round 7 and 7 its whatever.
by Hoss-Drone on Apr 23, 2009 2:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Laurinitis
His dad was freakin’ Animal from the Legion of Doom. He’s gotta be a BA!!!!!
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by TheViking83 on Apr 23, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doubt we’ll be taking a LB. I just read on PFT that Britton thinks he’s gonna be the 22nd pick. Probably got a little wink-wink and a nod from Spielman about it or something. I wish he hadn’t said anything about it though, or else somebody who wants him once Oher’s gone could leapfrog us >:(
by Frost on Apr 23, 2009 4:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cushing!!!!
I’ve been saying all along the Vikings should bring in Brian Cushing is he is available. Sure, he’s not a MLB, but I don’t want the Vikings to get a MLB like Maualuga or Laurinitis. If there is one person that could be replaced in our LB core, it’s Leber. With Leber as depth, he could fill in for any of the 3 LB positions if there was an injury.
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on Apr 23, 2009 5:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
RT will be 1st rd pick...
Why wld we draft LB and have as backup, when we need RT and WR ??…Wake up…And Crom, why are u such a Childress luver ??…I’ve checked ur blog out 1 time and 1 time only and u bash everyone, except Childress, who is the lamest Coach we have had since Burns….U do remember Burns ??,,Dont tell me, U liked Burns too…
by WVVikings on Apr 24, 2009 12:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Any LB we draft round 1 would replace Leber
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on Apr 24, 2009 5:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked Jerry Burns, actually
Very innovative offensive coordinator, but he had a ‘Let the Inmates Run the Asylum’ mentality about him. He also wasn’t able to utilize Herschel like he should’ve; which baffles me considering how great of an offensive mind he was.
Les Steckel, when translated from high German, equates to roughly ’total douchebag that had no business being a head coach in the NFL". Or something like that.
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