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Where Gonzo Talks About the First Day of the NFL Draft

"I'm no football expert, but I know what I hate. . .and I don't hate this."
-C. Montgomery Burns, American entrepreneur (sort of)

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, the first day of the NFL draft has come and gone in pretty much record time.  The first round only lasted three hours and forty-two minutes, the fastest since the league went to 32 teams by a long shot.  Our Beloved Purple did quite well for themselves, if you ask me.  The Cleveland Browns were thwarted in their quest to acquire every pick in the sixth round of the draft, the Broncos had five selections in the first two rounds and somehow found a way to not take Rey Maualuga with any of them, and Al Davis. . .well, he's still Al Davis, and we wouldn't have it any other way.

In the interest of equal time, since we already had a story with a picture of Minnesota's first round pick in it, you'll see to your right a picture of Minnesota's second round draft pick, Oklahoma offensive tackle Philip Loadholt.  As you can see, Loadholt is rather large, standing in at 6'8" and tipping the scales at 335 pounds.  Most importantly, he has a very good chance of pushing Ryan Cook out of the starting lineup, which is something that I think we're all looking forward to.  I know I am.

Drafting a tackle to play tackle.  Crazy, isn't it?

Star-divide

So, yes, I love the Loadholt pick.  I'm also coming around on the Percy Harvin pick, and will have something more extensive on it here shortly.  What I have to say about it right now is that if Brad Childress went down to Gainesville this past week, had a heart-to-heart with Harvin, and decided he was worth the risk. . .well, then, he's be worth the risk.  What I'm interested in is to see how the Vikings will utilize him in the context of their offense.  You don't take a guy like a Percy Harvin without having some idea of how you'd like to use him.  Yes, yes, I know he got busted for pot before the Combine.  But, after the pick was made, a couple of things occurred to me. . .

1) The last wide receiver we drafted in the first round with "character issues" was that Moss fellow back in 1998.  That seemed to work relatively well.  I'd rather my receivers have "character issues" than "watching the ball bounce off your face mask rather than catching it" issues.  (See also:  Williamson, Troy)

2) Last season, we sent a first round selection and two third round selections to the Kansas City Chiefs to acquire a guy that, before that, was basically an alcoholic that had picked up two DUI convictions in the span of five months.  That seems to be working okay thus far.

3) Harvin isn't the first guy in the history of NFL. . .or even *gasp* in college. . .that has smoked marijuana.  He won't be the last.  I don't like it, and I don't endorse it, but I'm not going to crucify him for it, either.

So, yes, all in all I think the Vikings have done well for themselves on Day One of the draft, and I'm very much looking forward to seeing what transpires tomorrow.  I'm also happy that Day Two has the more "traditional" draft start time of 9 AM Central rather than having to wait until 3 PM.

Some of my other observations from Day One of the 2009 Draft from around the league.

--If, at any point in my tenure as the head guy at this site, the words "Good job, Al Davis" or any variant thereof come across my keyboard, please have somebody track me down and just pummel me with a heavy, blunt object until I lose consciousness.  I mean, seriously. . .it's not even the Heyward-Bey pick that kills me, although I personally think it was awful.  They took a guy in Round Two. . .and, frankly, I can't even remember the guy's name. . .that Mel Kiper had rated as the seventy-third best safety in this year's draft.  Really, it might have been the biggest reach in the history of the draft, and I can say that without exaggeration.

I'm going to hang out by my phone tomorrow, in case the Raiders would like to draft me at some point.  I've been working out.

--As far as the NFC North, the two teams that did have Day One selections had some good and some bad.  B.J. Raji was a good pick for the Packers at #9, and he should help ease their transition to the 3-4 defense.  LB Clay Matthews, on the other hand?  Doesn't worry or impress me in the least.  I am glad, however, that the Packers had to give up as much as they did to get a guy that, frankly, isn't that good.

The Lions did a good job. . .as well they should have, what with three of the first 33 picks at their disposal.  I can't believe that Matthew Stafford is going to get almost $42 million in guaranteed cash, but that's where we are in the NFL these days.  (Rookie wage scale, anyone?)  They also got the best tight end in the draft in Brandon Pettigrew.  Their pick of Louis Delmas at the top of Round Two is a bit of a head-scratcher, particularly when they could have used an offensive lineman, but he was one of the top-rated safeties in the draft, so I suppose it could have been worse.

The Bears?  No Day One picks.  Makes the analysis very easy.

--I really don't know how Rey Maualuga not only went behind both his USC linebacker teammates, but fell out of the first round entirely.  Maybe he was night putting with the daughter of the dean or something, I don't know.  The Bengals got themselves a very nice steal at the top of the second round.

We'll have more observations from the draft tomorrow as the draft moves along.  Until then, I hope you enjoyed the double-barrelled coverage that we had of Day One, and we'll be back for more fun and excitement tomorrow.  Have a good one, ladies and gentlemen!

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Harvin Hospitalized

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Great great day for the Vikings!

I will say this the Bears did get a first rd pick for next year so that was a good move for them but nothing to show for this year after Cutler gets introduced to the Purple and Gold Division and know why we are division champs. (see Allen, Williams Wall, Greenway, EJ Henderson etc…)

by nmvikesfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:00 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I do like these first day picks.

Loadholt is a big, big boy. He should be able to push people around.

by homerspanky on Apr 26, 2009 1:14 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Harvin

You all are going to love having Percy Harvin on your team. Sure, he made a mistake by getting busted at the combine, but for three years he went to class, was a good teammate, and never once got suspended or arrested. All that garbage you may have heard about living in his own world or having problems with authority is complete bunk. The durability issues are the only ones worth worrying about.

Heyward-Bey may have the best 40 time, but you’d be hard pressed to find someone who is faster in pads than Harvin. He also had the best first step in college football three years running, and all you have to do is watch him run the counter against a pretty good South Carolina defense last season to see what I mean.

He’s not some product of the Florida system, the Florida system was built around him (and just as much as it was built around Tebow). Without him, Florida doesn’t sniff the national title game in 2006 and UF would not have beaten Oklahoma last season without him either.

Simply put, he’s the kind of difference maker that separates champions from contenders.

by Year2 on Apr 26, 2009 1:21 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I've always wondered...

Why they have them run the 40 in shorts and t-shirts? I think they should put them in full gear and make them run them. That’s what our football coach told us in High School. You don’t play the game in shorts and t-shirts, you’re not going to run the 40 in them either, so we ran our 40’s in full gear.

The Minnesota Vikings - Undefeated in the Playoffs at Lambeau Field!

by BaldViking on Apr 26, 2009 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks for the insight

its nice to get real fans perspective.. all i see are highlight reels but you saw him day in day out.

i always used to tell people outside of MN how cool RANDY MOSS actually was in real life as well… hated seeing him go.
so funny how he was considered bad for spraying water, fake mooning, or making an illegal right turn (are you serious?) even though he was so goo with charities and stuff.. then he leaves and we have the boat scandal.. then plaxico shoots himself. it’s like no comparison.

cromscorner.blogspot.com

by Crom on Apr 26, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love the Potential that Harvin brings

and I could care less if he tested positive EXCEPT he knew the test was coming…so that stupidity does worry me.

by Los Diablo on Apr 26, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn!

I wish I had this written down somewhere!

The other day at work, someone asked me who the Vikings were going to pick at #22 and I said, if he’s still there, they’ll pick Percy Harvin, but I wouldn’t mind seeing them get that OT out of Oklahoma (His name escaped me at the time.) We got both. Sweet!!!

The Minnesota Vikings - Undefeated in the Playoffs at Lambeau Field!

by BaldViking on Apr 26, 2009 1:26 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

But was it better than trading #54 and change for Boldin and drafting Oher with #22?

Regarding Harvin:

1) Is this guy really the next Randy Moss? Let’s hope so in terms of ability rather than like a Reggie Bush swingman/‘tweener/very expensive returner type. And let’s hope that if he’s really all that, that his personal problems won’t lead him to miss games (and nobody would think twice about being skeptical of an injury risk which leads to missed games, which is the point) or run himself out of town and score 23 TDs in a season for some east coast hoodie punks. I am glad that the organization got over Moss and Williamson anti-receiver “philosophy” (what an insult to real philosophers and the study of philosophy!) I guess when Andy Reid takes one a few picks ahead, then it’s OK to take a 1st round WR of your own in this copycat league.

2) Last season, we sent a first round selection and two third round selections to the Kansas City Chiefs to acquire a guy that had been selected in the 5th round as a long snapper, was allowed to compete with a deadbeat DE by Vermeil and Co. and basically became a defensive version of Vince Papale. And, like Moss, do we really want to be at the beginning of this story? Because if JA is great today with his second chance after he’s hit rock bottom, then that is the better place to pick up on one of these stories after some other franchise has given up on another guy. Let’s hope that Harvin’s contract is LOADED with incentives and escape clauses, like JA’s, too. Had Ray Edwards put up a 10-sack season last year, Chilly would have had a 5th round DE who overcame character issues, but that didn’t happen.

3) Harvin isn’t the first guy in the history of NFL that has smoked marijuana, but who did it this time last year or several years ago, and where are they? Adam Jones had similar issues, and what a disaster twice over. As I recall, at least 2 RBs have been kicked out of the NFL just for testing positive for pot multiple times (including former Viking Onterrio Smith). Nobody’s trying to crucify him or pass a moral judgment so much as express a very valid concern about his intelligence, street smarts, and reliability.

I liked the draft grader whose comment about selecting Harvin 22nd “seemed a bit high”.

Other observations:
- I’m already not a big fan of Scott Pioli’s. After trading away Tony G., why no Crabtree? Or at least Aaron Curry? I wonder if he’s going after TE Chase Coffman in the 3rd.
- Memo to the rest of the NFL: STOP GIVING NEW ENGLAND YOUR AWESOME DRAFT PICKS!!! THEY TEND TO USE THEM VERY WELL AGAINST ALL OF US LATER!!! KTHX.
- What is it with coaches shopping around their starting QBs lately? Last year it was Favre. This year it was Cutler, and now possibly Jason Campbell, who had a remarkably accurate and mostly INT-free season. Someone on ESPN said that Campbell probably won’t be back for 2010 regardless…but isn’t it their jobs to have quite a bit of regard for having a quality (even if not spectacular) starting QB?
+ I LOVE THE LOADHOLT! What a great pick. It reminds me of 4 years ago when the Vikes drafted a G in the 2nd after taking a WR in the 1st…let’s hope this works out much better. I’m optimistic that it will be at least good between the 2.

by KC Viking on Apr 26, 2009 2:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Brad Childress would normally be the last guy you would want to charge with doing anything creative, but in his hot pursuit of Harvin, you’ve got to at least have some hope that he’ll change that perception. After all, why draft a guy and not use him, right? I hope Childress is already designing plays for Harvin.

by Bodysuit Man on Apr 26, 2009 5:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But

does he have a grip like AP?

Great post Natty. I am not entirely sold on Harvin due to his timing of smoking. I am afraid that he will do good and bad, and then move on before either being great, or being out of football. However, your post really points out some great things, such as his sideline support and lack of other problems. He is now a Viking and has my support until he proves otherwise.

by Lofoten on Apr 26, 2009 7:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great post

Really people, rec this, we need to turn it green (just don’t let Percy smoke it).

I was so very mad when this pick was made; I thought Michael Oher was the no-brainer, have-to-make-it selection. The more time I take and step back from the situation, however, the more I like the pick. While I think Oher will be better than Loadholt long term, Loadholt is probably more suited to playing the right side right now. Percy Harvin can be a dynamic playmaker for the Vikings. I have serious doubts about this coaching staff’s ability to creatively and effectively use his talents, but I’m certainly hoping they can prove me wrong. Let’s also remember that Childress does actually have experience using super-versatile talents after coaching and designing plays for Brian Westbrook in Philadelphia.

I see Harvin running a lot of drags, crossing routes, and bubble screens that this team currently is unable to run due to personnel limitations. This would also make Tarvaris a better quarterback. (Okay, big maybe there.) If Percy can become a legitimate weapon for this team the offense would be potent to say the least. Defenses would have to account for AD getting the handoff, BB streaking down the sideline, and Percy getting the ball anywhere on the field. I like envisioning this. A lot.

My two biggest concerns are his injury history and his positive test at the combine. I don’t care that he smoked some pot. It was dumb, hopefully he’s not an addict, but how are you so dumb as to test positive for pot when you’ve known the date you will be tested for months in advance? Epic fail. As to his injuries, I don’t know how he’s going to stay healthy for a 16-20 game season when he couldn’t stay healthy for a 12-13 game season.

Harvin is a unique talent and I am extremely hopeful that both he, and this coaching staff, can allay my fears about this selection and Percy is able to display the athleticism and playmaking ability with which he has clearly been blessed.

by JRose on Apr 26, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh and he never stops smiling. it’s hines-ward-level annoying to opponents.

by Natty Bumppo on Apr 26, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i prefer this video, but sucks to say these clips are only from his 2008-2009. he was asked to do much more during his sophomore season, which is why i think his sophomore highlights are really off the charts. if it’s hiding around the internet somewhere, the best percy compilation was called “percy harvin for he1sman 08 campaign video” with chamillionaire in the background.

by Natty Bumppo on Apr 26, 2009 4:49 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

FOUND IT!!

also blurry from all the copies, though.

by Natty Bumppo on Apr 26, 2009 4:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

moved to its own fanshot.

by Natty Bumppo on Apr 26, 2009 5:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 thing I noticed from the video (thank you, btw Natty).

1) Although you said that he tends to run straight forward into people, I noticed that he rarely does that. He makes nice cuts to avoid tacklers. He also has great slowdowns in mid-stride before kicking it back up again, that is key for breaking defender ankles.

2) I noticed that he runs with the ball away from his body, much like in a full out sprint. One thing defenders love in the NFL is stripping the ball instead of tackling. AP repeat in the fumbles category?

I am absolutely loving the addition of PH now that I am letting my imagination run with the possibilities. Hand-off to AP or fake to AP and then hand off to PH as he comes across the backside in a reverse? One of many, many possible plays.

by Lofoten on Apr 26, 2009 7:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, i didn’t mean to imply that he doesn’t make cuts. but he also doesn’t (one or two notable exceptions) try to hit the breaks and go sideways to avoid players. he makes one cut (3-5 degrees) and hits the gas, sometimes smashing into a defender, sometimes skirting by him. i actually think it’s a strength. whereas i fault reggie bush for assuming he can always get around anyone, percy just lets his wheels take him up and down the field.

by Natty Bumppo on Apr 26, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

FWIW

ESPN.com lists harvin as having never fumbled in three years:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=186580

although this was definitely ruled a fumble during the vandy game. still…one mis-called fumble in three years, not terrible. i know the NFL game is different; adrian peterson also listed with zero fumbles during his college career.

by Natty Bumppo on Apr 28, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and from the same blog [orangeandbluehue]:

Percy Harvin did indeed go in the first round, despite the "pot" thing. As a Florida fan, it’s weird to see phrases like "character issues" associated with Percy. Are you kidding me? This kid was perfect at the University of Florida. Not only was he the most spectacular athlete in Gator history to don the orange and blue, he was also a humble guy, a great teammate, and responsible for zero "off-field incidents" in his career.

i’m biased, like i said from the outset, but from everything i’ve seen, you guys should be worried about his injury history, NOT his character. he will be a favorite of teammates and the media in no time.

by Natty Bumppo on Apr 28, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Natty, for taking the time to come over here and giving us the head’s up on Percy!

by DCPurple on Apr 29, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not so fast Gonzo. Childress obviously drafted Loadholt to be our next center.

Seriously, we did okay staying put, as I think both guys’ positives outweigh their negatives. They both also have a chance to be playing a lot this season, which is nice. If Harvin keeps his nose clean and Childress uses a little imagination, he could be just what the doctor ordered for our offense. God bless Bobby Wade for his maximum effort and good hands, but when he catches the ball I’m never thinking touchdown. I guess if he’s standing in the end zone at the time it’s a possibility, but other than that it’s a long shot.

by Bodysuit Man on Apr 26, 2009 5:34 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Loadhholt

in the Center Spot. now that would continue his tradition of Reaching for players! Ha, Ha!

Will the Real Thor Please Stand Up ... ?

by the Real Thor on Apr 26, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Second Thoughts

I was at the Vikings draft party and was one of the few guys not jumping up and down in celebration of our first round pick. I personally thought that Michael Oher would have been a better selection, but I have to have faith in the group that had done that drafting over the past couple of years. I also did not expect that we would be able to get Loadholt in the second round without trading up. So…upon reflection, I am quite happy with our picks and only hope that Chilly can utilize Harvin half as well as did Urban Meyer. (Thanks to the FL grad student with his extensive post…lots of good information there.)

by Rollosdad on Apr 26, 2009 6:21 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Here’s a crazy thought – we drafted loadholt to replace cook (a college center) who will then move to Center where he’s most comfortable and will be much harder pressed to false start.

Sounds like a plan to me.

by Hoss-Drone on Apr 26, 2009 10:36 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m love the Loadholt pick, and I’m coming around to Harvin.

What shocked me most upon initially seeing what happened (I was busy, so I only caught snippets of the action):

-The Jets trading up to 5th to take Sanchez, and then trading to the beginning of the 3rd to get Green out of Iowa. How much did they give up? Not sure that was wise.

-The Raiders. Wow. I saw they took Heyward-Bey and my jaw hit the floor. Just… wow.

- Beanie Wells and Oher falling surprised me.

-The Lions going TE with their second pick. I know he’s good, but that defense is horrible.

That’s all I’ve really seen so far. Going to go read up on what I missed now.

In AP I trust

by FarvaForTheVikings on Apr 26, 2009 9:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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