2009 NFL Draft Open Thread - Day Two
by Gonzo on Apr 26, 2009 8:35 AM CDT
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Alright, folks, we're about 30 minutes away from Day Two of the 2009 NFL Draft, and there's still plenty of talent to be had. As it stands right now, your Minnesota Vikings have a third-round selection, a fifth-round selection, and two seventh-round selections.
I may not be here straight away, as my long-neglected yard is going to get the mowing it needs before it gets too hot outside, but rest assured, I'll be here.
Until then, feel free to discuss Day Two right here!
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Center? Cornerback?
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by aceinthecorner on Apr 26, 2009 8:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If D.J. Moore is somehow there
When we make our third round pick, we need to grab him, I think.
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by Gonzo on Apr 26, 2009 8:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And we start with a trade
As the Lions have traded pick #65 to the New York Jets.
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by Gonzo on Apr 26, 2009 9:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Gotta love it
Day 2- a day made for wheelin’ & dealin’!
by Odin on Apr 26, 2009 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn
The Jets gave up their #3, their #4, and their #7 to move up to this spot.
Not a bad haul for Detroit.
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by Gonzo on Apr 26, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jets select Shonn Greene
So now Detroit picks at #76, #115, and #228 in addition to their own picks.
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by Gonzo on Apr 26, 2009 9:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good pick for the Jets. Damn this starts early (for us on the West Coast)
by vikingfuture8816 on Apr 26, 2009 9:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What's with all these corners getting pick ahead of Moore?
Fletcher, Smith, Martin, Byrd? I can understand Darius Butler…
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by Andersklasen on Apr 26, 2009 9:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bears are up
They need to draft to stop our wildcat formation. ; )
by Odin on Apr 26, 2009 9:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And they drafted
Someone else for Steve Hutchinson to destroy twice a year.
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by Gonzo on Apr 26, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moore remains on the board...
Can he fall 17 more picks?
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by Andersklasen on Apr 26, 2009 9:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
if not Moore
then Coye Francies, CB, San Jose St. Both are worth a 3rd round pick.
by Odin on Apr 26, 2009 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gilbert for Chicago? I thought he was more of a 3-4 d lineman. Maybe they like him as a DT because he is too big to play DE every down in a 4-3.
by vikingfuture8816 on Apr 26, 2009 9:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
Richard Dent was a big guy and was….ok? Imagine Gilbert and Edwards rotating in and out for us…fresh and hard-hitting.
by Lofoten on Apr 26, 2009 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bit of a reach for the Cowboys
But I guess the Vikings’ had some interest in Williams, too.
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by Gonzo on Apr 26, 2009 9:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He's more of an athlete than a linebacker...
And will provide another revolving door for Adrian Peterson to use at his leisure during two games last year.
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by Andersklasen on Apr 26, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
*next...
not last…
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by Andersklasen on Apr 26, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just saw a commercial
For “Pepsi Throwback.”
The heck is that all about?
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by Gonzo on Apr 26, 2009 9:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Another Al Davis pick upcoming.
Prepare to ridicule!
by Odin on Apr 26, 2009 9:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm calling it...
Austin Collie, WR, BYU.
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by Andersklasen on Apr 26, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Give me a sec...
I’m on the phone with Al Davis…..I think it might be me!
by Lofoten on Apr 26, 2009 9:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dang... wasn't you.
Some kid named Matt Shaughnessy. I’m sure you’re up there on his draft board, though.
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by Andersklasen on Apr 26, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Mayock had the kid rated for 6th rd. Would suck to be a raider fan.
by PurpleCrush on Apr 26, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh sorry..
It wasn’t Al Davis, it was Matt Shaughnessy crying that he was taken by the Raiders. He REALLY didnt want to go to them. I told him to suck it up for a couple years, then move to another team.
by Lofoten on Apr 26, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
Al Davis is drafting for the NTFL. Nationall Track and Field League
by NYCVike on Apr 26, 2009 9:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Marv Lewis..
I think, listening to Marv Lewis right now, that I understand why the Bengals have had such off the field problems recently. He’s really trying to rationalize Andre Smith right now.
by cheaptoy on Apr 26, 2009 9:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Poor guy
has had to put up with Chad Ocho Johnson the last couple of years. Give him a break.
by Lofoten on Apr 26, 2009 9:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jags moved up to pick twice
and took a CB with their second pick Derek Cox
by Lofoten on Apr 26, 2009 9:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Do the Lions not care that by not drafting a tackle...
They are signing a death warrant for Stafford? Seriously, Allen will tear the entire offensive line to shreds.
I’d be very disappointed if I were a Lions fans.
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by Andersklasen on Apr 26, 2009 9:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Glen Coffee to 49ers. Iiked that guy
by vikingfuture8816 on Apr 26, 2009 9:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and "Brew"ster was selected right after him.
joke by one of the ESPN guys
Corny works at this hour of the morning.
by Lofoten on Apr 26, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh, they keep showing the commercial with Mr. Steroids
and he says “steroids is as American as apple pie”.
What a maroon!
by Lofoten on Apr 26, 2009 9:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Antoine Caldwell to Houston
Thought he might have been a nice pick-up.
Almost to the Vikings’ pick at #86.
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by Gonzo on Apr 26, 2009 9:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought O-Line might be a possibility, but Spielman’s said they only look to suit up 7 or 8 linemen. So: McKinney, Hutchingson, Sullivan, Herrera, Loadholt, Cook, Hicks makes 7. Am I forgetting anyone?
I’m a Jamon Meredith fan. He can play 4 positons, and some think he has starting LT potential, as he’s athletic and long. And he stood out in the bad @ss SEC. Might be good value, given their chances of solving their line issues increase with two new guys in the mix, and if he and Loadholt both pan out, maybe you suddenly have a valuable trade chit in McKinney.
But that’s probably getting too far down the mine shaft, given their other needs.
by jianfu on Apr 26, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you are forgetting OT Drew Radovich. He would have been on the 52 man roster last year, but got hurt in the preseason. That should make 8.
by vikingfuture8816 on Apr 26, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couple of Guards in a row, but I don’t think the Vikings were looking to get one. Come on Moore, keep hanging in there.
by vikingfuture8816 on Apr 26, 2009 10:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
But neither of them
Were Duke Robinson, who I like a lot.
If Moore isn’t there, Robinson wouldn’t be a bad get for the Vikings.
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by Gonzo on Apr 26, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Duke is a beast. I wouldn’t mind getting him and putting him next to Loadholt if Herrera starts to falter
by vikingfuture8816 on Apr 26, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like him too
But as some point we need to draft some D. Right?
by Odin on Apr 26, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow as another cornerback goes by,
no d.j .moore yet, maybe there still is hope
(knock on wood)
by alldayson28 on Apr 26, 2009 10:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Derrick Williams to the Lions
Another decent pick for Detroit
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by Gonzo on Apr 26, 2009 10:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. He could be a dangerous weapon next to Johnson. They still don’t have an OL to block for the QB though.
by vikingfuture8816 on Apr 26, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If only Gosder Cherilus could stay on his feet. :)
by jianfu on Apr 26, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moore reminds me of Winfeld
Jared Allen is to football what Jason Voorhees is to Lake Crystal.
by SDviking on Apr 26, 2009 10:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is there character concerns with Moore or what?
by PurpleCrush on Apr 26, 2009 10:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s little, and had a disasterous offseason. But with all these other CBs passing him, maybe something else is up.
by jianfu on Apr 26, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not that I’ve read. He is young and came out a year early, maybe that lack of experience keeps him down.
by vikingfuture8816 on Apr 26, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brandon Tate “the other (pot smoker) UNC WR” just went to the Pats
by vikingfuture8816 on Apr 26, 2009 10:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pitt and Philly left to go
Before our 3rd pick of the draft. Feels like forever between picks.
by Lofoten on Apr 26, 2009 10:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So close to getting Moore
why is he still left here
by alldayson28 on Apr 26, 2009 10:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He's small, and sort of slow...
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by Andersklasen on Apr 26, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pittsburgh takes Mike Wallace..WR Mississippi @ #84
by Tony_O on Apr 26, 2009 10:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like this guy. Good hands. Made some great catches in traffic for Ole Miss last year.
by vikingfuture8816 on Apr 26, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DE Lawrence Sidbury’s still around. He’s a strong combo of tools and skills, and has decent rush defense ability. Another pass rusher would rock top join Allen, Williams, and Robison.
by jianfu on Apr 26, 2009 10:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like a steal
if we could get him, reminds me of antoine
by alldayson28 on Apr 26, 2009 10:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
New England’s draft look pretty good – S Chung, DT Brace, CB Butler,OT Sebastian Vollmer and WR Tate. Those are some darn good players.
by vikingfuture8816 on Apr 26, 2009 10:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
New England rocks at this. They always trade down and then take players that make you slap your forehead as you think how they’ll rock playing for the Pats.
by jianfu on Apr 26, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NE can afford to take a chance on Tate
Since they have 300 picks this year.
And I agree with Herm, Moss will be able to say, “dude, let me tell you a story”
by Lofoten on Apr 26, 2009 10:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
uh oh
giants could go with moore now
by alldayson28 on Apr 26, 2009 10:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What did the Giants fear that we would grab?
Lets tune in and find out.
by Lofoten on Apr 26, 2009 10:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
BARDEN! Damn, I loved that guy.
by vikingfuture8816 on Apr 26, 2009 10:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t actually think the Vikings would take him, but I really liked that guy.
by vikingfuture8816 on Apr 26, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giants take Ramses Barden
Damn. . .very nice pick at that spot for the G-Men.
Minnesota is on the clock!
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by Gonzo on Apr 26, 2009 10:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Eagles Trade the #85 pick to the Giants who select……Ramses Barden..WR Cal Poly
WE GOT DJ MOORE BABY!!!!!!!!
by Tony_O on Apr 26, 2009 10:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If we want him
This should be an interesting pick.
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by Gonzo on Apr 26, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think “we” want him, but who knows who at the top of the Vikings board.
by vikingfuture8816 on Apr 26, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What?
They moved up to take a WR? Ramses Barden? Were we about to take him?
by Lofoten on Apr 26, 2009 10:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
prepare to be let down :D
Jared Allen is to football what Jason Voorhees is to Lake Crystal.
by SDviking on Apr 26, 2009 10:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the draft has gone to well for them to take someone we like
Jared Allen is to football what Jason Voorhees is to Lake Crystal.
by SDviking on Apr 26, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pick is in...
who did we select NFL Network watchers?
by Lofoten on Apr 26, 2009 10:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
F’ing kidding me? Both ESPN and NFLN goes to commercial on the Vikings pick
by vikingfuture8816 on Apr 26, 2009 10:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And, of course
The NFL Network goes to commercial right as the word “SELECTION” shows up next to the Viking logo at the top of the screen.
Damn them.
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by Gonzo on Apr 26, 2009 10:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ESPN is at least still showing its bottom line
by vikingfuture8816 on Apr 26, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And with the 86th pick in the 2009 NFL Draft...the Minnesota Vikings Select:
Asher Allen..CB Georgia..
by Tony_O on Apr 26, 2009 10:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Asher Allen
Over D.J. Moore?
Well, then. . .I need to dig up some stuff on Asher Allen.
Bit of a surprise here, I think.
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by Gonzo on Apr 26, 2009 10:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We took Allen over Moore
Because of his toughness and he is a much better tackler which is a requirement in our defensive scheme for CBs. Allen played this year with a broken hand and didn’t flinch at contact, in fact he brings it. He is also great at the return game which is an added plus. Moore is slow and not tough by NFL standards but he does have playmaking ability. We’ll see him twice a year with Chicago and find out who was the better pick. Allen also has better closing speed.
by nmvikesfan on Apr 27, 2009 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
asher allen
he is a kick off return specialist, set single season Georgia record for kick return yards
by alldayson28 on Apr 26, 2009 10:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
anyone know about him?
Jared Allen is to football what Jason Voorhees is to Lake Crystal.
by SDviking on Apr 26, 2009 10:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He's solid
Good value here actually. He’ll be a good zone corner, and its not a reach at all.
by NYCVike on Apr 26, 2009 10:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice pick
Not a reach at all. Provides depth and may well be a future starter.
by Odin on Apr 26, 2009 10:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Asher Allen scouting report from Mocking the Draft
http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2009/2/11/756841/scouting-report-asher-alle
Strengths: Allen is a strong cornerback who can match up nicely against bigger receivers. Possesses very good agility, which he can utilize against quick, shifty receivers. Might be best lining up on the inside at the beginning of his career. Played strictly in man coverage at Georgia, which helped him develop the tools of a top cornerback. For a cornerback, Allen excels at playing the run. His strength allows him to get off receiver blocks and make a play. Has good speed but it takes him a bit of time to get up to his top gear. Added value as a kick returner.
Weaknesses: Lack of height hurts Allen the most. He’ll often lose out on jump balls against taller targets. Needs to do a better job of reading his receiver instead of the quarterback. Too often bite a quarterback’s fake. Hands are average, but Allen will be downgraded in this area due to a broken hand in 2008. Still, he only had three interceptions in his career. Catches in his body. Gets overly aggressive and get beat to the inside.
Final word: Allen didn’t have a lot of passes thrown his way during the 2008 season following his stellar 2007. That, combined with a broken hand, make him look like a puzzling early entrant. He may have improved his draft stock some by returning for his senior year, but Allen will be a solid starter at the next level. Packed with upside. Named a semifinalist for the Jim Thorpe Award and the Lott Trophy. Played really well in Georgia’s last two bowl games.
Round projection: 3
Sounds like they’re looking for Winfield’s replacement to me.
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by Gonzo on Apr 26, 2009 10:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
NFL.com hasn't said anything about him yet.
Looking at manicured fingernails…
by Anthony Carter on Apr 26, 2009 10:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Still not even an acknowledgement that we just drafted…and…now to the next commercial.
by Anthony Carter on Apr 26, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a bad video, looks good in run defense for a small guy and got off a few blocks to make tackles as well.
by vikingfuture8816 on Apr 26, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN doing a thing on Pervin right now.
Childress interview live, right now
by Lofoten on Apr 26, 2009 10:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
chilly is on ESPN
Jared Allen is to football what Jason Voorhees is to Lake Crystal.
by SDviking on Apr 26, 2009 10:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm back
Like that’s some big deal. Wanted to wait for theVikes pick and wake up a bit.
Once again, I wait for a Viking pick and ESPN breaks to commercial. Twice now. Aside from being the sSanchez/NY area butt kissers they treat smaller market picks like a side dish. Plenty of other stories to tell but wait! We have Mark Sanchez coming out of the airport restroom awaiting his flight back to NY.
Not sure about this pick. I was even hoping we would get Kropog. I know another OT sounds dumb but how long will McKinny be around, if not in jail.
Can someone tell me if we have any 4th round picks? Know we traded ours
by CitrusFLViking on Apr 26, 2009 10:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No 4th rounders. Have to wait for a trade or the 5th round
by vikingfuture8816 on Apr 26, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Back in a bit
Please talk amongst yourselves. (-: I’ll be back before too long.
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by Gonzo on Apr 26, 2009 10:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pervin? The G-man
Didn’t Da vike make that blunder. We had fun with that
by CitrusFLViking on Apr 26, 2009 10:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, one of your friends (AB, I think you called him) used it, and I liked it. So, I think I will stick with it hehe.
by Lofoten on Apr 26, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chilly
is putting me to sleep. Cliche-o-meter is off the charts.
by Odin on Apr 26, 2009 10:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And the Ravens take Webb at CB after the Asher selection. Something must be up with Moore. I understand he had a disappointing offseason, but he was considered a top 4 or 5 CB when he declared.
Asher’s supposed to be a stud in the return game, too. Maybe they won’t need to rush/risk Harvin in that role.
I’m not sure if I would have gone for CB depth, but if Asher can beat out guys like Sapp and Paymah in their nickel package and bring some juice to the return game, he’ll be ok.
Anybody remember former Vikings CB Corey Fuller? Don’t know much about Allen, but Fuller was definatly “fiesty.”
by jianfu on Apr 26, 2009 10:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and Falcons take a CB as well
that isnt Moore.
by Lofoten on Apr 26, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another CB not named Moore and one from San Jose St not naemd Coye
by vikingfuture8816 on Apr 26, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, or after a certain point, you wonder if teams just get suspicious, since he’s slipped this far. And it almost becomes a snowball situation.
Or maybe he was just overrated by the blogosphere…
At any rate, I think he was an underclassmen. That always sucks to see an underclassman slide.
by jianfu on Apr 26, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he will slip to us in the 5th round..hehe.
by Lofoten on Apr 26, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasnt sold on Pervin earlier
But after listening to his pre-draft and post-draft interviews, and reading a UofF poster’s (Natty something) about how his life was like at the school, all-in-all….I think he will be perfect for us. (Plus Cris Carter likes him).
And yes, I am calling him Pervin now. Someone did it earlier, and it sounded catchier than PH, etc. :)
by Lofoten on Apr 26, 2009 10:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ESPN
giving a Vikes pick a full feature. Can’t believe it.
by Odin on Apr 26, 2009 10:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I know
I almost fell over, til Chilly start talking. Then I fel asleep. What the H! He has a great personality and smile. Is he setting him up for a date?
by CitrusFLViking on Apr 26, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn New England!!
They have 3 second rounders again next year. Who are these people trading second rounders ONLY to New England. Grrrr…….
by NYCVike on Apr 26, 2009 10:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I would have love
the Vikes to have a couple more in there. I thought there were some good players taken in the 2nd this year
by CitrusFLViking on Apr 26, 2009 10:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What ya think Tony
Should we try to move up a little in the 5th if Kropog is on the board? Ther is also Harrell, and the Dude from Sam Houston St. I liked the film on him. And the other was Brohm from A&M??? Might be a QB to look at late. Who Knows? But I seriously think we should go 2 OT’s if Krogog is not taken yet. Haven’t been by the TV so don’t know if he was taken yet
by CitrusFLViking on Apr 26, 2009 11:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I Don't know about taking Kropog now that we have Loadholt.
BTW its McGee from A&M…I’m also looking at Nate Davis from Ball State @ QB.
by Tony_O on Apr 26, 2009 11:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That was it McGee
Sorry. Think I mentioned my short term memory from my accident so I appreciate you guys undertanding.
Anyway, Davis would be another. I don’t think it would be bad to take another OT Problem is someone would have to go. Don’t like Cook but he could be good to keep as a reserve at Center and OT-for now
by CitrusFLViking on Apr 26, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn
Bears took Jaoquin Iglesias. He will be a starter this year and will do well with Cutler throwing to him.
by Lofoten on Apr 26, 2009 11:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
McGee from A&M gone...
just went to Dallas….
by Festivus Miracle on Apr 26, 2009 11:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
Now I’m really confused :)
by CitrusFLViking on Apr 26, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cincy is doing pretty good
Who do ya’ll think has the best draft so far?
by CitrusFLViking on Apr 26, 2009 11:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
3 answers to that question
1st answer: Us! Because we are Vikings fans and the picks were pretty good for what we need.
2nd answer: New England by virtue of their wheeling and dealing led to 4 2nd round picks and a ton of other picks, both this year and next year. Since they have a solid team and a proven record as winners, they can afford to keep messing with their draft and get a ton of non-1st rounders, finding that diamond in the rough.
3rd answer: Arizona. Arizona because they added two spots that hurt during the Superbowl (RB and Def). Gives them a good shot to get back there, even without Boldin, if he doesnt stick around (think Steve Breaston). Cincy has made some great picks as well.
by Lofoten on Apr 26, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen on the US
Don’t get me wrong I like our picks a lot. Was just trying to get a grip on teams like us who are efeectively addresing needs.
by CitrusFLViking on Apr 26, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, I've gotta say, I like our draft A LOT.
by Anthony Carter on Apr 26, 2009 11:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m still shocked they didn’t take Oher. (Potential franchise LTs don’t fall to #22 everyday). For that reason, I feel a little weird about it. If Oher lives up to his potential, Harvin might have to become the next Eric Metcalf—a once in a generation gadget guy/slot receiver—to make it worthwhile. (Which, to be fair, some might say is Harvin’s potential.) Oher could’ve also made McKinney a valuable trade chit.
But I agree they’ve done decent. A lot of upside, but a lot of risk, but maybe they figure they’re a 10-6 team that needs to roll the dice. They really attacked their needs. And their offense should have a whole new dynamic. For as much fun as we poke at the KAO, it is predicated on guys taking those 3-yard passes and creating something out of them, and the KAO has never had a guy with Harvin’s potential to do that at a highly dangerous level. Let’s hope he does that, and gives them enough juice to be the type who can stretch the defense horizontally and give AP more room.
And I’ve got to hand it to them: they read the “runs” perfectly. That is, they took a WR in the 1st, and WRs went early this year, and they sprung for their biggest immediate need in the 2nd, when the OTs were just hanging around. It was the polar opposite of last year at those positions.
I think Seattle’s had an underrated weekend. Curry, Unger, Deon Butler (whom I like a lot), and an extra first-rounder. Outside of them, I like New England.
by jianfu on Apr 26, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it the best, not sure.
But we’ve had a huge talent/position ratio at exactly the positions we were targeting.
by Anthony Carter on Apr 26, 2009 11:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Only 56 more picks
to the Vikings next pick. Time for an early lunch.
by Odin on Apr 26, 2009 11:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and the winner so far...
I would go with denver as the best draft so far…just cause they picked so many players in first two rounds thanks to the cutler fiasco
by alldayson28 on Apr 26, 2009 11:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
not the Raiders?
You just wait and see…their 7th round draft picks that went in the 2nd and 3rd rounds will be this year’s super MVPs and will single-handedly take them to the SB!
by Lofoten on Apr 26, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope totally serious.....
…erm, who did the Raiders pick?
by Lofoten on Apr 26, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about with the 5th round pick...if Kropog is gone..
What do you guys think of Solidifying the DE spot by taking Willie Van De Steeg from the Gophers?
by Tony_O on Apr 26, 2009 11:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmm…Bhomar…was promising at OU until the whole car dealership-money fiasco…
by Spoolinup on Apr 26, 2009 11:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Alright, I'm back
The lawn is done, and it doesn’t appear that I missed any Viking-related excitement. Woo-hoo!
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by Gonzo on Apr 26, 2009 11:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What do you guys think of picking up Duke Robinson G to replace Herrera?
by Spoolinup on Apr 26, 2009 11:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Waste of a pick, I think. Herrera is decent, he really doesn’t need to be replaced.
by Frost on Apr 26, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really? It always seems to me that between Herrera and Cook(although Cook is WAAAY worse) the opposing D always gets penetration….but I can kinda see what you’re saying
by Spoolinup on Apr 26, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean
you didn’t see we traded T-Jax for Sanchez?? :)
by CitrusFLViking on Apr 26, 2009 11:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
why asher>moore
Evan (Minnesota): Why do you think the Vikings chose Asher Allen over D.J. Moore?
Doug Kretz: Better burst when closing on the ball and 1-2 inches more height.
some guy asked that on the espn chat thing, thought ppl might find it interesting
by Syle on Apr 26, 2009 12:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Are you trying
to give me nightmares? LOL
by Odin on Apr 26, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't insult the guy
I mean, damn. . .“Pharv?” Ugh.
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by Gonzo on Apr 26, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DJ Moore to the Chicago...
The bears just took him with the 19th pick in the 4th round…
by Festivus Miracle on Apr 26, 2009 12:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It will be easy to
compare hime to our guy, Asher Allen.
by Odin on Apr 26, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, this waiting is awful
Should have cut the lawn with a pair of scissors instead.
We’re at pick #130, and the Vikings aren’t on the clock again (barring a trade) until #158.
Back in a bit again.
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by Gonzo on Apr 26, 2009 12:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Earlier some were talking about kropog
well he is gone now to the colts
by alldayson28 on Apr 26, 2009 12:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I have to admit
that we are getting to the point where I have no point of reference to evaluate anyone left on the board. There are a few players left that I like, but realistically, I don’t really have a clue. But here goes anyhow.
Duke Robinson, OG, Ok.
Coye Francies, CB, San Jose St.
Derek Pegues, S, Miss. St.
Rhett Bomar, QB, Sam Houston St.
I guess I would be happy with any of these this round.
by Odin on Apr 26, 2009 1:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And our first punter is off the board
As the Bengals select Kevin Huber from Cincinnati (the college) at #142.
Not a bad spot to grab a punter, actually.
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by Gonzo on Apr 26, 2009 1:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Signing in from Kuwait
Hey guys,
I haven’t seen a single pick but want to thank you for the colorful commentary. I know the Vikes selected Harvin, Loadholt and Asher Allen. So far it is decent. I wonder if the Allen pick was a little motivation for Antoine to get his extension signed? I hope so, then the kid can learn from the best small corner in the business.
It may take a village to raise a child, but it takes a Viking to raze a village.
by Luft Krigare on Apr 26, 2009 1:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Allen was more incentive for McCauley to get his ass in gear than it was to send a message to Winfield.
by Frost on Apr 26, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could be
Plus the kid will have at least this season to watch, absorb and learn as much as possible. We will know how good he is by seeing if he can win the nickleback role.
You may be right about McCauley. He showed so much promise two seasons ago, then drop off the planet last year.
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by Luft Krigare on Apr 26, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really think Allen’s main role for the next two years is to stretch the field in the return game. I’m not sure Harvin will be used in that role. I like our corner situation.
by mjschaefer on Apr 26, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Southerland would be a decent pick
With Fiametta and Johnson off the board. Brock Bolen from Louisville would be an option at the FB spot, too.
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by Gonzo on Apr 26, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would prefer Jason Cook
Per CNNSI:
POSITIVES: Terrific lead blocker with outstanding vision and skill. Quick out of his stance, accelerates into blocks, and removes defenders from the action. Displays the ability to get around the corner and creates space for running backs. Nasty and looks to hit as many defenders as possible on every play. Displays good blocking vision, picks up blitz assignments, and effective in pass protection. Shows good hands on the few occasions he is asked to catch the ball.
by mjschaefer on Apr 26, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here is the rest of the report:
NEGATIVES: Rarely asked to handle the ball at Mississippi.
ANALYSIS: Cook flew under the radar screens for most of the past three years yet on film he looks as good as any fullback in the country. Despite his marginal production handling the ball Cook possesses the athleticism to help out as an offensive threat. He’ll likely fall into the late rounds of the draft yet could easily make a roster at the next level.
PROJECTION: Fifth Round
by mjschaefer on Apr 26, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The guy is an upgrade over Nafahu F**kin Tahi..
I hate Tahi with a passion..Yes i want this guy with our 5th round pick
by Tony_O on Apr 26, 2009 1:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tahi isn’t a bad blocker. He just shouldn’t be throw the ball for 2 yards.
by Frost on Apr 26, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one uses the reply function much here.
by mjschaefer on Apr 26, 2009 1:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m not saying that it doesn’t get use at all but rather people just respond with a new post every time instead of staying under the same topic. It makes this hard to read.
by mjschaefer on Apr 26, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well its a live blog atm. If this were more of a discussion, you’d see the reply used alot more. But since it’s about live action, using the reply button means you likely lose out on some discussion because people may not be scrolling back up to see what they’ve missed. I know that I’m not really doing it.
by Frost on Apr 26, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vikings Trade up to the Raiders 5th Round Pick!!!!!!1
by Tony_O on Apr 26, 2009 1:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I will like it when the NFL switches too the draft order based on playoff success. It will be a necessary switch.
by mjschaefer on Apr 26, 2009 1:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why would they do that and for who?
Ah, for Jasper Brinkley ILB
by Lofoten on Apr 26, 2009 1:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wanted Mitch King
the guy will be a good player for a long time and will prove himself.
by Los Diablo on Apr 26, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here’s a report-
POSITIVES: Tough, run defending inside linebacker who projects as a two down defender. Plays disciplined football, stacks well against the run and wraps up tackling. Stout at the point, holds his ground against blocks and effectively uses his hands to protect himself. Forceful up the field and plays with authority.
NEGATIVES: Marginal skills in coverage and does more chasing opponents down the field rather than defending the pass. Lacks the quick change direction and plays with just average speed.
ANALYSIS: Brinkley looked like a star in the making after his junior season in 2006 but was set back by the knee injury the following season. He’s best playing downhill and could effectively fill the inside linebacker position of a 3-4 alignment.
by mjschaefer on Apr 26, 2009 1:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ILB is curious to me. Guy probably won’t be anything but a special team specialist.
by mjschaefer on Apr 26, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wierd thing, though, is that we traded up for him
by Lofoten on Apr 26, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is my thought as well. It really doesn’t even address a need. Adding athletes I guess.
by mjschaefer on Apr 26, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From Mocking Dan at Mocking the Draft
Vikings trade up to take Jasper Brinkley. That’s a very good choice. Brinkley slimmed down and was healthy during offseason workouts. He has a chance to be a premier run stopper at the next level.
by JRose on Apr 26, 2009 1:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was kinda hoping Vikes would pick up Bomar…
by Spoolinup on Apr 26, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brinkley sounds like a special teamer
It’s an interesting pick. . .I can’t necessarily explain it, but it’s interesting.
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by Gonzo on Apr 26, 2009 1:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So we still have our other fifth round pick?
by mjschaefer on Apr 26, 2009 1:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nope
last pick is 7th round pick 22
by alldayson28 on Apr 26, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
We sent the Redskins our fifth (#158 overall) and the 7th round pick that we received from the Redskins from the Erasmus James trade (#221 overall).
As it stands now, the only pick we have remaining is our own 7th rounder, #231 overall.
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by Gonzo on Apr 26, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My theory
Here’s what CBS Sports says on him:
02/07/2009 – PRO POTENTIAL: LB Jasper Brinkley — Two years removed from a 107-tackle season, Brinkley made 65 stops in 2008 as he bounced back from an injury that cost him all of 2007. He’s probably a late second-day pick at this point.
Player Ratings
Position Overall…Pos….Rank…Proj. Round
ILB……………………. 94……….. 4…………. 3
My theory is that our only decent linebacker backups are Heath Farwell (great heart but a little small) and Erin Henderson. I think the Vikings were looking for another quality backup and a little more the right size. He is listed as 6-1 5/8, 249.
Also, I’m sure they want him as a second Farwell on special teams.
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by Luft Krigare on Apr 26, 2009 1:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good point
regarding Farwell. When he got hurt, our special teams went south fast.
by Lofoten on Apr 26, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Off-topic real quick
Italian cruise ship fends off pirate ship with gunfire. They had some Israeli security forces.
It’s about damn time some of these companies get smart. Security guards cost alot less than the millions they have to pay in ransom, as well as the money they lose from cargo that is sitting in a pirate port.
Ok, back to the Draft.
by Lofoten on Apr 26, 2009 2:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Macho Harris to the Eagles
Another guy that I liked. . .I would have considered taking him where we took Allen.
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by Gonzo on Apr 26, 2009 2:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
How would you feel about a 7th round RB?
Some good guys still out there to be our 3rd RB. Ringer from MSU, Johnson from Liberty, etc.
by JRose on Apr 26, 2009 2:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I would be all for it
I don’t think Albert young is ready for the NFL
by Tony_O on Apr 26, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Panthers grab Duke Robinson
At #163.
Very nice get there, I think.
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by Gonzo on Apr 26, 2009 2:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Lof
A while back I wrote something on Favre pulling something off. How I am not on that wagon but it still made some sense. Briefly, Farve didn’t want to go toNY and distanced himself, played well enough for 9 games and mysteriously has a sore arm, retires with no tearful conference or fanfare, Brett wants to play in Minn and realizes they wil pick up another QB probobly at a high price (Sanchez it turns out. Bet you one month after Sanchez gets his $ Brett calls the Jets and says “I’m unretiring” They can’t pay 3 QB’s and tell Brett no. He gets his release.
I am really starting to think that might happen. Do I want it ?-only to stick in GB’s face. Other thant that, no. But I would not be shocked to see it come down.
by CitrusFLViking on Apr 26, 2009 2:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I Don't Doubt You
It’s not a stretch to believe that the wheels in Favre’s mind have been turning ever since Green Bay traded him. I believe he’ll do almost anything to get back at them.
by purplegrey on Apr 26, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I remember your post on that and believe that he may be thinking of something in those terms. However, I am not sure he will be received as well by Viking fans this year as he might have been last year. I dont want anything to do with the drama of “will he or wont he retire”. I like stuff that looks solid for the long haul, and Favre aint it.
by Lofoten on Apr 26, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Herman Johnson selected
NFLN mentioned the fact that he was 15 pounds, 14 ounces when he was born. All my wife could say was “ouch.”
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by Gonzo on Apr 26, 2009 2:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
shit... Could Curtis Painter or Brad Hoyer be our 7th round pick.
by Tony_O on Apr 26, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe chilly is content with his trio of Q.B.
by PurpleCrush on Apr 26, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jaworski (spelling?) seems to be pretty high on Hoyer…he thinks that Hoyer is one of the best “sleeper” QB picks this draft…Brady-esque…
by Spoolinup on Apr 26, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not the Vikes
But the bulls-celts game on ABC is sick
by JRose on Apr 26, 2009 3:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Off for now
But I’ll have a look at our 7th round pick when my wife and I get back home.
Thanks for participating, everyone!
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by Gonzo on Apr 26, 2009 3:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ricky Jean Francios is still availible
and Jarvis Moss from the Broncos can be had for a 7th round pick.
by Tony_O on Apr 26, 2009 5:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what does everyone, position wise, think the Vikes will pick?
by Spoolinup on Apr 26, 2009 5:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
any chance we try to pick up another QB for competition for 3rd spot?
by Spoolinup on Apr 26, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would love to see the Vikes draft Graham Harrell.
by Tony_O on Apr 26, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d like them to pick him up, or even Hoyer…he looks pretty solid in vids
by Spoolinup on Apr 26, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hoyer Looks like he can be developed into a good NFL QB.
.
by Tony_O on Apr 26, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he looks to have pretty good vision/intelligence, and to me looks more promising than JDB based on college play comparison alone
by Spoolinup on Apr 26, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No they like the QBs they have. I think they grab someone who can play special teams. I like Rashad Jennings. The big RB is still out there I have had seen him go as early as the 3rd round in some mocks.
by vikingfuture8816 on Apr 26, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bevell and Chilly already said they would possibly bring in a 4th QB though, so they can’t be THAT happy with who they have
by Spoolinup on Apr 26, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am sure the possibility of bringing in a 4th QB doesn’t mean the aren’t happy with who they have.
by vikingfuture8816 on Apr 26, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DRAFT GRAHAM HARRELL!
I can outrun a mule deer.
by Gonzo2 on Apr 26, 2009 5:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Draft Grade - B
I can outrun a mule deer.
by Gonzo2 on Apr 26, 2009 5:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Needed depth in the secondary
and in special teams coverage.
Go for a QB in free agency in about 2 hours
by Odin on Apr 26, 2009 5:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Should have grabbed Harrell and DJ Moore.
I can outrun a mule deer.
by Gonzo2 on Apr 26, 2009 5:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hunter Cantwell out of Louisville is a pretty big(tall) guy…body structure reminds me of Matt Ryan
by Spoolinup on Apr 26, 2009 5:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Free Agents
I hope we get Mike Reilly in free agency. Maybe we’ll get Jean’Francois too. We usually get 2-3 of the top guys left over.
by NYCVike on Apr 26, 2009 5:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mocking the Draft likes them some Jamarca
Check it out here
by JRose on Apr 26, 2009 5:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
First NDSU guy to go. I thought NDSU had a really good RB? Or was TE?
by vikingfuture8816 on Apr 26, 2009 5:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
would've been nice
to sign as a free agent
by Odin on Apr 26, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seattle picks up a couple good west coast products. I don’t like the Oregon Ducks, but Nic Reed should have been at the combine. He is going to be a special teamer the likes of Farwell while he develops into a pass rusher at the NFL level.
by vikingfuture8816 on Apr 26, 2009 6:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone have a guess who Mr. Irrelevant is?
by vikingfuture8816 on Apr 26, 2009 6:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mayock rates Vikings as the biggest Day 1 winners.
by Anthony Carter on Apr 26, 2009 6:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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