An Open Letter to the Mainstream Media About Brett Favre
Dear Mainstream Sports Media Types,
We're really not that different, you and I. We've all been given a medium to express our opinions about sports, and we've all done so with varying degrees of success. While many of you have been given an opportunity to work for major newspapers or television stations, I'm just some guy with a computer and an opinion that's been fortunate enough to latch on to the best network of sports blogs in the industry. To be quite honest about it, a lot of you out there are the inspiration and the impetus behind what I do here at this site on a regular basis, and for that I thank you.
However, I feel that something needs to be said about the coverage of the Brett Favre situation that has arisen in recent weeks. Not the fact that there's a ton of coverage of it, because that's the way it should be, whether we like it or not. Big names get more ink than smaller names, and I understand that. Rather, it's the tone and the tenor that this coverage has taken that leaves me with some cause for concern.
Allow me to explain.
As someone that has been a fan of the Minnesota Vikings for as long as he's been able to grasp the basic concepts of football, I've had a long and healthy dislike for Brett Favre. Was it due to the fact that he was always beating the Minnesota Vikings? Well. . .not really. Until the latter part of his stint in Green Bay, Favre had never been terribly successful against the Vikings, and in fact has turned in some of the worst performances of his career against my Beloved Purple.
Was it because he was the face of the league for a while and is regarded as one of the best players in the history of the NFL? Certainly not. I understand that big names will get that sort of spotlight, and that the Vikings have had a couple of those players over the course of their history. Honestly, I've seen some of the all-time greats line up against the Vikings over the years I've been watching them. . .names like Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Reggie White, Mike Singletary, and so forth. . .and I didn't have the active disdain for any of them that I've harbored for Brett Favre.
No, the reason for my dislike of Brett Favre during my time as a fan of the Minnesota Vikings. . .and I dare say that I speak for a lot of other Viking fans as well when I say this. . .is this.
I've been watching NFL football for a quarter of a century now. . .and over the course of those 25 years, no player in the history of the National Football League has had more excuses made for them or had their derriere kissed on a more frequent basis than the man that many simply refer to as "#4." It may have been enhanced somewhat by being a fan of a rival team, but it isn't just Viking or Bear or Lion fans that feel this way about the guy, and I'm sure that many of those fans would attest to that.
It's not just a couple of mainstream media outlets that I'm focused on here, either, quite frankly. Everyone from Peter King to Joe Buck to ESPN to the complete sycopanths at the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel and the Green Bay Press Gazette. . .you all had a role in creating this monster.
When Brett Favre went out against the St. Louis Rams in the playoffs in 2002 and threw an NFL post-season record six interceptions, he went out in the post-game press conference and proceeded to throw his entire receiving corps, and in particular Bill Schroeder, under the bus. And you let him do it.
When he went out against the Philadelphia Eagles in 2004 and, in the face of a blitz, proceeded to throw a pass 30 yards over the head of receiver Javon Walker for an interception, who did you folks blame? It certainly wasn't Brett Favre. . .it was Javon Walker for not catching a pass that Renaldo Nehemiah wouldn't have caught up to.
When he faced the Minnesota Vikings in 2005 and completely stunk up Lambeau Field for four quarters, including underhanding a pass after being five yards over the line of scrimmage because he was scared to get hit, all you could do is remind us repeatedly about how much fun Brett Favre was having. If I didn't know any better, I'd think that Favre was the only guy in NFL history that actually enjoyed playing the game.
When he spent the entire 2006 season looking horrible and turning the ball over 36 times, the blame didn't go to #4. . .it immediately went to his "supporting cast."
In the eyes of the mainstream media, Brett Favre spent 15 years doing absolutely no wrong, whether it was on the field or off the field. And if you don't think he heard all those excuses that you all were making for him, I've got some ocean front property in South Dakota you might be interested in purchasing. All of you gave Brett Favre the impression that he was running the franchise in Green Bay. All of you gave Brett Favre the impression that he was bigger than any team in the league, and frankly bigger than the league itself.
And now you're "tired of the Favre saga?" Now you think it's pathetic and sad that the man is doing this? Please.
I hate to break the news to all of you, but you created this monster. Sure, superstars should be treated a bit differently than your average player, but the way you treated Brett Favre for the majority of his career was above and beyond all of that. How can you possibly be surprised by the way he's acting now after the way that all of you have chosen to enable him for the better part of his NFL career?
I don't know if Brett Favre is going to end up a member of the Minnesota Vikings. None of you know and, quite frankly, he probably doesn't know right now either. And whether he joins the Vikings or not, it won't change the fact that he's a primadonna or a jackass or a diva. But, by God, much like Randy Moss during the time he was in Minnesota, for that one year he'll be our primadonna, our jackass, and our "diva." Some will embrace him, some will revile him, and some (like myself) don't know even now where they'd stand on such a situation.
But, please. . .drop the faux outrage and anger over the entire situation playing out the way it has. Again, you were the enablers in this relationship, and if you don't like where it's gone, you have nobody to blame but yourselves.
Sincerely,
Christopher Gates
Head Blogger, DailyNorseman.com and lifelong Minnesota Viking fan
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first time blogger on this site, long time vikings fan
this was a great post Gonzo, well thought out and well written…only thing i can add to this is when the “breaking news” came out on espn that favre was staying retired rachael nichols tried to put the spin on the story and keep it going by reading into words favre’s agent gave her and it was really sad how much espn tries and creates a story when other outlets like yahoo sports has been beating them to the punch on news alot lately
by pjalive21 on May 11, 2009 1:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Primadona, jackass or diva
Hey Gonzo, put me down for Jackass.
by Duluth Viking on May 11, 2009 1:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That is why you write and I just blog
Very well written
by CitrusFLViking on May 11, 2009 2:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nodding head
yup!
Norm Green still sucks!
by diok9 on May 12, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And let's not forget,
the biggest media slob when it came to expunging his gross man love for Favre. I am of course talking aboout John Madden. Madden single handedly desicrated the name of every great QB that has played the game by repeatedly slobbering all over every play Favre made (Only Favre can throw a pass like that). Gonzo, you are so right that the sports media made Favre “the best ever, a shoe in for the HOF”. Please Favre, just stay retired, so we can forget about you as quickly as your Green Bay faithful have.
"Skol pa fiskande"
by NobleSavage on May 11, 2009 2:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I will second
this about Madden…..and do you think it’s a coincidence he’s joining Favre in retirement? I think he secretly wants to marry him and have his babies.
by gerkvoltage on May 11, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mr. Gates, my friend, I will agree with you on some issues, but, some, I will not. 1st I agree that BF should stay retired. As a lifelong PACKER fan, it would literally make me hurl to see him in Purple…stay home Brett, or at least go somewhere other than MN. I will agree that he has had alot of, what you referred to as “butt-kissing” press. But, think about this for a sec. BF has never scored a TD, and immediately pulled a pen out of his sock to “autograph” the football. He has never “called” someone from the endzone, and he certainly hasn’t ever poured popcorn in his face, or proposed to a cheerleader. He’s never done anything to draw attention to himself, rather, he’s always celebrated with his teammates, even carrying several of them off the field in the memorable 2007 NFC Title-run season. Has he thrown alot of INT’s….yeah, but, you don’t pass for over 60,000 yards without throwing some. You don’t start approx 300 games, incl playoffs, without having a few bad ones. And one more thing…Brett Favre has NEVER joined his teammates on a boat full of hookers, drugs, and various amounts of alcohol. So, just because YOU don’t like Brett Favre, that doesn’t mean he isn’t one of the greatest QB’s in NFL history. I defy anyone to give me any Vikings QB in their history, who would’ve had the game of his life, the game of his career, one day after the passing of his father. Randall Cunningham? Nah. Brad Johnson No way. They would’ve been too busy boozing it up with some strippers.
by zachsdad3104 on May 11, 2009 2:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Um...
You want a barf bag with that? Favre ain’t no saint. The kid was incapable of driving an automobile safely to his first professional team photo shoot, but we all make mistakes. The point of the article was that the media hath made this circus, and (excuse the improbable NFC North metaphor) if the lions break loose, they bear part of the responsibility.
by Elgar on May 11, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ewwwwww
the pun
"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."
by Mitchell_M on May 11, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you missed the point
I don’t think Gonzo was saying BF isn’t one of the best QBs ever. He is. He holds almost all of the important stats for a QB. There is no denying that.
But name me another player who has done anything like what BF has done the last 2 years. Hell, make that the last 4 years. I’m retired. I’m back. I’m retired. I’m back. I’m retired. I want to get traded. I’m retired. I’m back. I’m retired. I’m back. (Do I need to continue?)
Then you go and make a statement about any QB in Vikings history, then proceed to name Cunningham and Brad Johnson? Really? In your opinion, those are the two names that come to your mind when you think of all time Vikings great QBs? Wow…
P.S. – the love boat incident was over half a decade ago.
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 11, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He only retired twice and came back once. You can blame the media for constantly badgering him 3 to 4 years before he actually retired for the drama of it. All he had said was he was going to contemplate it, he never said whether he would one way or the other. The media pounced on their hypothesis and printed it as if it was the truth.
by Frost on May 11, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought he retired, then came back to lead GB to that great record in 2007. Then retired again, came back and got traded to the Jets. Then retired again…with the possible comeback to the Vikings.
Wonder if the Lions are interested in him…
by Lofoten on May 11, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope. He retired after the 2007 season and this season. That’s it. All other drama before then was simply the media speculating.
by Frost on May 11, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joe Kapp
easily could’ve played the game of his life after losing his entire family in a fiery crash the previous day if he needed to, unless that game happened to be the super bowl.
by oblivionspocket on May 12, 2009 6:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
micheal jordan
did it too. twice i think
cromscorner.blogspot.com
by Crom on May 12, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brett Favre
Still jealous that they didn’t invite you?
As for Favre having the game of his life, the game of his career, one day after the passing away of his father… that sort of celebration is really far too morbidly disgusting for you to bring up. Some of us actually like our fathers.
Favre may indeed have earned his spot as one of the greatest QBs of all time, but remember that you’re the losers who drove him away. No, not just drove him away, but you people engendered in Brett Favre such a loathing for all things Green and Cheesy that his greatest life ambition for the past two years has been to play for your biggest rival, and stomp your green arses into the turf of your home field. I don’t bother to stoop to spending time on Packer websites so I have no idea what sort of crappy, ungrateful, pathetic behavior on the part of you Green Bays fans and the Packers team, has done this to the man who played his heart out for you, for 16 years. To be honest, I don’t care. But Aaron Rogers should take a head’s up at what’s in store for him.
by DCPurple on May 11, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Considering this is the only comment you have ever posted,
and the probability that you will never come back… but if you do come back:
1- Get rid of the italics, and
2- Try paragraphs… it would be easier to read.
Be nice. Flag comments that you think are offensive. Use the "reply" button. Drink plenty of water. Compliment others. Rec comments and posts you like. Don't call people names. If you don't like someone's comment, attack the comment and not the commentor. Learn the difference in your/you're, then/than, to/too. Exercise. Relax. Stretch often. Find good in the world.
by Dane Noble on May 11, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we quit playing Grammer Police?
Mind you, I get a little annoyed with the “rapper wanna be’s” garb. Most of you know I have a disability and memory loss and have been very understanding and many times helpful. It is very appreciated.
Some folks are not grammer whizzes, have difficulty with reading, physical problems, etc. Do your best to read it but be careful not to hurt someone.
Blame the system if you want. I was astonished at my high school students who were top notch students who could not even spell on assigned papers. My son’s handwriting skill is limited to printing in the 8th grade. Reason given? With computers we are focusing less on writing. They can use spell check to help them with spelling and sentence construction. I about fell over! That’s great unless you actually have to use a pen or pencil to write down something important to someone.
Point being, there are many reasons people write the way they do. I don’t come here to correct homework. I want to read opinions and I can overlook folks little quirks. Try doing the same.
by CitrusFLViking on May 12, 2009 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am sorry that offended you in some way...
I just don’t see how him using all italics has anything to do with what you are talking about.
Be nice. Flag comments that you think are offensive. Use the "reply" button. Drink plenty of water. Compliment others. Rec comments and posts you like. Don't call people names. If you don't like someone's comment, attack the comment and not the commentor. Learn the difference in your/you're, then/than, to/too. Exercise. Relax. Stretch often. Find good in the world.
by Dane Noble on May 12, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You didn't offend me.
Keep up the nice blogs. Enjoy your posts. Wasn’t totally directed at you. I often see so many comments about grammer, I jumped on it too hard. Sorry if I offended you.
I do my best to just read and look over peoples errors. Some of these guys who have to blast people who make an error go overboard at times.
by CitrusFLViking on May 12, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No worries fella.
Of course there always going to be typos and such… I am as guilty of that as anyone. But, on the flip-side of the coin, when people are only offering garbage posts and comments, trolling, or just being an arse, it is always fun to poke fun when they have turrible grammar or sentence structure.
But, if people are actually making good points and arguments, it is easy to look past grammar and focus on the meaning of what is being said. But yes, it seems that every blog has its token “grammar nazi” who never does anything except point out other people’s mistakes. Those folks should be beaten with a keyboard.
Be nice. Flag comments that you think are offensive. Use the "reply" button. Drink plenty of water. Compliment others. Rec comments and posts you like. Don't call people names. If you don't like someone's comment, attack the comment and not the commentor. Learn the difference in your/you're, then/than, to/too. Exercise. Relax. Stretch often. Find good in the world.
by Dane Noble on May 12, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember Mark Chmura?
I had the unfortunate luck of moving to Milwaukee from MN in 1986, when I was 11. I grew up a die-hard Viking fan under the Wisconsin sun that rose and set with Favre. There were many years during his success when he was known quite well in Milwaukee, he and Mark Chmura, for screwing everything that walked. It was also well known that his wife was very close to leaving him on several occasions for his constant infidelities. I don’t really care to moralize here—but if there had been a Love Boat on Lake Michigan, Favre would have been the first one taking down his pants.
by Anthony Carter on May 11, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and incidentally, the fact that this never really got all that much attention in the mainstream press is perhaps one more notch on Gonzo’s belt.
by Anthony Carter on May 11, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meanwhile, Chumura got busted big time. Interesting….
by Cobra312004 on May 11, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do believe
Frans father passed away while he was playing in a game and found out during halftime.I also seem to remember that #4 had a certain liking to painkillers and booze.And that game of his life was againts the Raiders that has declined to the Depths of the Lions. And no # 4 is not one of the greatest,maybe a top 20 but greatest isnt the word I would use. 50 perscent maybe.
by speedlod on May 12, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know how you can say he is top 20
BF holds almost all of the important statistical categories for an NFL QB. I have hated him for most of my life, just like almost everyone on this site. But there is no denying that he is one of, if not the best QB of all time.
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 12, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
reason
Is easy if you look at where he places the ball for recievers.Montana,Snake,Tark,Kilmer,Bradshaw,Staubach, and many others dont hang their recivers out to dry in the middle.Favre constanly hangs his recievers out to take some tough hits.He is not the best Q.B.of all time the six I listed was far better then Favre will ever be.Go over the film when Driver was playing and see how many times he got nailed just because where ball was placed.
by speedlod on May 13, 2009 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great QBs
Can’t believe you mentioned him! Kilmer’s on my all-time favorite list too. I never got to see Johnny Unitas play but from the stories, I think Kilmer was cast in a similar mold. He played through torn ligaments and broken bones, bloody and bruised, looking for a way to win. Not the greatest QB, stats-wise, but one hell of a leader on the field. A man you had to respect no matter which team you were rooting for. Kilmer had tremendous heart, and grit.
The Snake may have been really good but I’m too biased to give him much credit. Still bitter and angry, after all these years.
Bradshaw is the only one I’ll have to really disagree with. Take away Lynn Swann and John Stallworth, and Franco Harris, and you’re left with a mediocre, not too bright ball-slinger. Granted, if it wasn’t for Bradshaw’s inaccuracy, we wouldn’t have been treated to seeing some of Swann’s absolutely incredible catches (the only man I think I’ve ever seen turn around in mid-air and move in the opposite direction to get to the ball).
by DCPurple on May 13, 2009 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No denying the QBs you listed are great
But you can’t deny what BF has done. I am not saying he is the best of all time. But he is definitely better than just “top 20”
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 13, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh my ...
Look, I understand disliking Favre. you’re in good company there. But did you ever stop to think that just MAYBE the reason you don’t have those media outlets lining up to say how sucky he is, is … that he didn’t suck. Your citing of anecdotal games is all fine and well, but your selective recall does not change the fact that the Packers had only one losing season — and had the #1 winningest record in football — during the stretch that he started every game for him.
Sometimes the reason the media says a player is good simply because they ARE.
by puddnhead on May 11, 2009 2:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good players make good plays. Great players don’t put the blame for their mistakes on their teammates. That’s the difference. The article has nothing to do with Favre other than to say the media allowed him to throw teammates under the bus and pull other crazy crap like that which would see most players run out of town on a rail.
by Cobra312004 on May 11, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This coming from a guy with pudding on his head?
Hahahaha
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 11, 2009 2:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bravo!
I don’t know if could be summed up much better. Excellent open letter!
Skol Mr. Gates
Vikings Valhalla .com
by Admiral BigGun on May 11, 2009 2:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
New Acronym
BF= PDA (PrimaDivaAss) just had to rearrange a little. I salute you sir for putting my feelings down in writing.
by SouthernNorseman on May 11, 2009 2:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great Post Gonzo!
But I liked the Open Letter To Brad Childress post better.
I can outrun a mule deer.
by Gonzo2 on May 11, 2009 3:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cheddarnecks need to learn to read...
Who else loves the blind backing up of BF by some of these idiots?? Gonzo never said that BF sucked in general, he just said that the man never took responsibility when he laid a hot one on the gridiron… You look at Tim Tebow’s speech after the one loss for the Gators last year and you see what you want a QB to say…
The finger, however, was being pointed squarely at the media. It’s like constantly telling a little girl how pretty she is, and then making excuses for her as she grows up into a pretty little princess, but then has no skills to turn to when she graduates from college and hits the real life as a 22 year old with the personality of a rice cake and the temperment of a harpie… Who’s fault was that??
I’m pulling for Sage “ugly duckling” Rosenfels… That’s who you want to be in your life, the one who had to work on everything, but was too tall and boney to be noticed in high school, but is now in the real world and is the hottest thing in the world… Could happen… Tom Brady was an ugly duckling… Now he’s the swan of the league… Hopefully Sage is a late blooming ugly duckling!!
by ctowner35 on May 11, 2009 3:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
AND..
Michael Jordan was a ball hog. Point?
by Jepp The Viking on May 11, 2009 4:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Media facts, or lack thereof
I’m not so sold on the fact that he never blamed himself for a loss, or a bad throw. Part of being a quarterback is to have a lot of confidence, and a big ego. Leaders can’t be congratulating his teammates when they stink it up. Even though failure happens regularly, it can’t be accepted by the quarterback. It has to be blocked out. I remember too many games that he’d throw an INT, then at the end of the game throw some questionable passes that got them a crucial first down/TD that won the game for the puke green/yellow. It certainly can swing both ways, but to say he’s an asshole because a sports writer blogs about him twice a week isn’t fair. Very few of us know what he’s like when he’s not wearing a uniform (other then he liked to fish and hunt)
The simple fact that he’s played 300+ games straight, can put your prima donna status as laughable as it gets. Plus, he’s a wrangler man, not someone that wants the red carpet slid out from under him. Your very nieve if you refuse to accept Favre as the Vikes QB if he does play. You could hate someone your whole life, but if one day came that they saved your life, you’d still hate them?…
by PurpleJesuZ on May 11, 2009 4:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
Also, you know if no one showed any interest in him, his perennial waffling wouldn’t even matter. It would be as relevant as me announcing I’d like to play QB for the Vikes. So he obviously has ‘it’ still, othewise professional talent evaluators wouldn’t be knocking at his door. I know I probably couldn’t find a way to quit the game I’ve loved for all of these years if someone was still willing to give me a chance.
by Jepp The Viking on May 11, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has not played 300+ games. Get your numbers right. At any rate, his consecutive games streak does not disprove his prima dona status, it confirms it. The question isn’t how many games has he started in a row, it’s how many games did he play injured to continue his streak and cost his team the game because of it? The fact that he puts personal statistics and accomplishments ahead of winning is what has people upset about him.
And another thing. It’s one thing to block out a mistake and move on, it’s quite another to blame your teammates when you make those mistakes. The quarterback is the leader of the offense, if not the entire team. If anything he should be taking public blame off of the receivers on to himself.
The fact that you buy his persona as a spokesman for Wrangler jeans speaks volumes about your naivety. YOU’RE very NAIVE if you believe Favre doesn’t have a head the size of a Macy’s parade float.
by Cobra312004 on May 11, 2009 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
Wrangler jeans suck. The ones at Walmart do, anyways. They can’t take a beating and tear way too easily. Then I made the connection.
In AP I trust
Brett Favre should go die somwhere
by FarvaForTheVikings on May 11, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cobra
I’m sorry, including the play-offs he’s started 291 consecutive games. So I don’t think i’m out of context when i say he will have 300+ after possibly signing with the Vikes. i’m sorry that we disagree, but to ask hypothetical questions like “how many did he play hurt and cost the team?” ..wow. I’d rather have my best quarterback on the field playing with a few injuries then a back-up that didn’t get a single rep in with the first string all year. Then you go on to make statements for Favre (like most media) and say he only played the game for himself. I believe its you who Gonzo is referring to in this thread.
On to your “other thing”, your right, you shouldnt blame your teammates when its your fault. I’ve read one cited source after a game in which Favre blamed a reciever(s). Its funny, out of 269 consecutive regular season games and you get 1 or 2 or even 5 occassions that its happened and the guys a bad leader??….I’m sorry but there have been ample of times Favre has taken blame for a bad game. He has also praised his players when they win.
i figured one would be able to tell I was being sarcastic with the wrangler comment, but you seem to be upset about something. Maybe I am nieve to believe that Favres head isn’t the size of Macy’s parade float, but if I threw for 60,000+ and the most TD’s ever, I believe i’d have a legit case.
SKol
by PurpleJesuZ on May 12, 2009 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
John Madden does not approve.
"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."
by Mitchell_M on May 11, 2009 4:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great post
I’m a Bears fan, so let’s just get this out of the way up front- no, I don’t have any place to talk about QBs. And Favre spent many years pounding on the Bears (prior to Lovie’s arrival!), so I’m probably a bit bitter. But he has absolutely gotten a pass from the entire sports media world every time he has had a meltdown over the course of his career. Since the Walrus left you can look at just about every GB postseason appearance and see that it ended with a #4 interception-palooza. The collective media statement afterward was always: “Oh, that’s just Brett. He’s going to have one of those games now and again”. I don’t think he’s had a coach since Holmgren that would cuss him out about the careless and unecessary turnovers.
I’m not going to take away from anything positive that Favre did over the years, and his numbers are certainly staggering. My team was certainly his favorite punching bag. But Mr. Gates hit the nail on the head with this post.
by NCBearFan on May 11, 2009 5:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
gonzo ?...should be bozo
All that talk about the media is to blame for the way BF is acting?? Acting How is he acting?? He hasn’t said a word! He didn’t bring this on , your beloved Viqueen spokespurples did….oh and maybe sports bloggers. But as far as I know this time around he has had nothing to do with it. Felt good though didn’t it. Preaching to the choir always does.
by gbntv on May 11, 2009 8:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you are an idiot
Come back when you’ve learned to read. He’s not talking about this exact instant of Brett Favre’s actions. He’s talking about the accumulation of years. And also, Brett Favre asked for his dod gamn release from the Jets. TWICE!!! And it’s the Vikings that are at fault for this media circus. Go jump in front of a bus.
V.I.K.I.N.G.S Skol Vikings, Let's GO!!!!!!!
by Huskarl Skeggox on May 11, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
didn't realize my brother was logged in...
this comment was me, not Huskarl. I’m the one calling this brain surgeon an idiot.
V-I-K-I-N-G-S! Skol Vikings, Let's Go!!
by TheViking83 on May 11, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Either way, I would agree with both you and your brother on the fact that this guy is an idiot. Favre has been pulling these strings since this time last year, when he was still a part of the Packers’ organization. How did everyone guess he was going to look at the Vikings, out of all the teams we have in the NFL.
You sir (gbntv), are an uninformed sheep who follows what the media tells you, instead of looking beyond the story and realizing how things in life really work. Simple math will put 2 and 2 together for you, so that you realize that those tears Favre shed on his first retirement were really from a Crocodile.
by Lofoten on May 12, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
also
joined today and has 1 overall post.
What a douchenozzle.
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by TheViking83 on May 11, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I certainly hope
That this is the dumbest damn thing I read today.
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by Gonzo on May 11, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like your ONE post, douchebag.
You shall rot in hell.
I can outrun a mule deer.
by Gonzo2 on May 12, 2009 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that’s a little harsh…
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Brett Favre should go die somwhere
by FarvaForTheVikings on May 12, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Incredible post Gonzo
just fantastic. Funny how everybody that has had something negative to say about it hasn’t made any sense, has been flat wrong, of has taken your words completely out of context. Sounds like true Favre-lovers to me.
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by TheViking83 on May 11, 2009 8:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great post Gonzo
Whether you want Favre on the Vikes or not, I think we all agree on what you said.
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by MilCardFan on May 11, 2009 9:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Here, here!
You have said what I’ve been thinking for the last 10 years of Favre’s career. Thank you sincerely!
by Cobra312004 on May 11, 2009 9:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm...
My only gripes are that people are fussing/whining about hearing the news coverage, in general. Newsflash folks – much like the central point of this great post by Gonzo, you create the desire for the media coverage. It starts with fans who care about the info.
The reason people are biyatching about this is because their beloved teams aren’t getting any press during the off-season. Cry me a river. I’m enjoying hearing my Vikes discussed on a national level, regardless of the strange circumstances. And frankly, Brett Favre is just about ten times better than the QBs we currently have on tap – so for my part, I’d like to have him and see if we can shed the excuses about “having problems due to not having a legitimate QB.” I’d like to see where we’ll go with a real QB – prima donna and over-covered by the media, or not.
by Wytefang on May 11, 2009 10:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mr. Tarkenton
zachsdad- The all-time greatest QB in Viking history never got that chance. His dad passed away while watching the Viking- Cowboys playoff game in 1975. The 1st game I remember watching. Fran didnt play again until the 1st game of the 1976 season opener. He never won a super bowl. He did get them to 3 of them. Cunningham? Johnson? Get a clue. Tommy Kramer or Culpepper, even Joe Kapp would have been better. Are you 13 years old. I do believe that Mr. Tarkenton wouldve played a great game under those circumstances.
by c.carterhof on May 11, 2009 11:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh yea...
Fran of course didnt know of his fathers death until the game was over.
by c.carterhof on May 11, 2009 11:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well said
Wish I had the ability to articulate as well as you Gonzo. You summed up my feelings nicely…
by Knut on May 11, 2009 11:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Open letter to Packer fans
To all cheeseheads-
Hey look, I’m sorry but it seems as though your hero is going to be a Viking. We didnt plan this. And some of us hate it as much as you. Not me, I seem to be in the minority. At least on this blog. I tend to agree with Wytefang, lets see what the old dude has. The fact that I have not liked Mr. Favre for the last 17 years has nothing to do with the way he plays the game. He is a gamer, and I admire that. ALL adult football fans do! He plays the game with all he has. Dont blame us if we happen to get a little excited for the possibility that Brett Favre could become a Viking.
We will just be riding the horse yall were gonna shoot. It happens, look at baseball. The biggest rivalry in sports, Yankees- Red sox. There have been many who have gone to the other side. Even the greatest player of all-time.
The only reason for our hate of Favre is the fact that he WAS a Packer. The only ones to blame are Mr. Thompson and That fat coach you have.
If this does go down and we fail, you will bash us to no end. I am prepared for that and so be it. But I think its worth a shot because I see the QB position as as our biggest weakness. Even if old #4 is 40, he could be just what we need to put us on top. And, well hey … wouldnt that be something.
by c.carterhof on May 12, 2009 12:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Open letter to Packers fans... my version
We hate you, always have and always will… because you are who you are, and we are who we are.
Your team stinks, and you all smell kinda like rotten cheese to boot.
The end.
by sabbath999 on May 14, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
#4
Being a GBP fan 4 life I’m kinda hoping that he does play 4 the BIqueens hahaha!
( living in GB area 4 majority of my 48 yrs hadn’t heard this one, funny ! )
Personally been big #4 fan till this year not last year unless he stays retired. Last year I blamed T.T. now I’m not so sure ???? But now I hope he plays for you guys u pay him big money, ( less money for others who might help your team ) and he just sucks and it turns into something bigger than the Hershell Walker trade. Oops nothing could be bigger than that! But 4 now it’s all speculation and I don’t even think Brett is sure he can play!
Final thought picture this, Brett Favre in PURPLE laid out on Lambeau Field!!!
Nope I can’t, Brett don’t do it just hang it up, come back after Ted’s gone,
and be the GBP legend that you are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- for now
CsHroCKs
by CsHroCKs on May 12, 2009 7:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Have you also heard of the FudgePackers? Ahahaha! I find that one much more funny/clever than BiQueens.
And, actually, I don’t see how it could be bigger than the Herschell Walker trade, since we aren’t… trading for Favre. So as much as your insults “hurt” my pride for the team, maybe you should either A) save them for a time befitting. If you want to bring up the Herschell Walker trade, try waiting until we actually MAKE a big trade. Or B) Just not bother with them, because you obviously fail.
But I can’t picture Favre laid out at Lambeau Field either. Mostly because I can’t picture the Packers actually reaching him. They have a pass rush now?
by Frost on May 12, 2009 7:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
I’m more partial to Pacqueers.
Or, that is to say, I would be if I had the intellectual capability of a mentally handicapped second grader and was under the impression that there was an NFL franchise called the Queens.
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by Gonzo on May 12, 2009 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yahoo. Check this out Gonz.
Gonz! I was reading some Yahoo sports article and on their sideboard this post was displayed for those who were interested in other “Favre talk”.
You hit the major media big guy!
by CitrusFLViking on May 12, 2009 9:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
all the lazy childish rivalry locker room hating aside
Only a dipshit would say that the vikings suck. they don’t. or that aaron rodgers sucks. he doesnt. yada yada
Brett Farve should only be judged here as a football player. not a person. And in that regard, he’s the shit. I hated him, i wanted to kill him, but i always repsected him. for the reasons above. he’s NOT a pre-madonna, he appreciates the game, he picks his team mates up, he plays with enthusiasm and fire.. and his record streak starting for QBs is INSANE so we know he’s a warrior… THATS why madden et all jocked him he was a FOOTBALL PLAYER.
he played football, and very well.
how people perceive athletes always makes me laugh.. everyone thinks robert smith was such a smart eloquent man, no one knows he got more hookers then you could shake a stick at, but who cares? he WAS smart because no one ever found out about it. barry sanders could be the same way.. i dont care who these guys bang and if they’re faithful to their wives (most men aren’t) marck chemura was a dipshit.
anyways.. if the guy wants to play football, you let him. and you accept the media frenzy that will come along with it because as long as he is playing football, favre will be relavent. just how it is.
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by Crom on May 12, 2009 1:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You seem so full of hate.
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by Manimal on May 12, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brett Farve should only be judged here as a football player. not a person.
How about judged as a teammate? Which leads me to…
he picks his team mates up
only after a TD throw. In the locker room, he is known to isolate from his teammates, and refuses to be a mentor. After Rogers was drafted by the Pack, a reporter asked Favre how it was going as far as mentoring Rogers. Favre responded by saying that it wasn’t his job to develop players… that it was the coaches jobs. Not to mention, he frequently would ignore players who weren’t in his “Fave-5” group.
THATS why madden et all jocked him he was a FOOTBALL PLAYER.
Huh? The game, or the person?
i dont care who these guys bang and if they’re faithful to their wives (most men aren’t)
That is just turrible (as Charles Barkley would say)
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by Dane Noble on May 12, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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by Manimal on May 12, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, Charles looks so thin in that picture…..compared to now.
by Lofoten on May 12, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well...
he did play like 15 seasons with GB. obviously he had his moods and moments but i only go on what i see, not the media etc. he obviously loves to play and he makes his team mates better. “enthusiasm” is contagious. he’s interacted with a hundreds of team mates in his career and in general he has a good rep.
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by Crom on May 14, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i only go on what i see, not the media
How do you see what you see if not in the media? You hang out on the sidelines or in the locker rooms? I agree he probably elevates his teammates as far as making them play better (or rather, used to when he was good), but most talented QBs do that by default, not because they try to.
he’s interacted with a hundreds of team mates in his career and in general he has a good rep.
How do you know this if, again, you don’t pay attention to the media? There have been numerous teammates that have talked about how big of an arsehole Favre was to them… those statement have been in interviews with beat reporters, and in magazines and books.
I only say these things because you are coming across like he is such a great teammate, and you don’t care what the media says about him. I don’t pay to much attention to half the crap MSM puts out there, but I do feel like it is important to educate myself before forming an opinion on something.
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by Dane Noble on May 14, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most men aren't
12 of the last 14 divorces I know of were due to the women cheating. Better check some stats.
by CitrusFLViking on May 12, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not my point
my point is most people cheat. there are no women in the nfl so sadly i can’t use them as an example but thanks for pointing it out.
im wondering why all the people you know get cheated on
that’s a pandemic you’re describing. they choose lame girls? they bad in bed? dang
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by Crom on May 14, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a terrible argument, and you were wrong to even include it in your original comment.
It is not a very intelligent statement, and it doesn’t help your credibility in your other arguments.
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by Dane Noble on May 14, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could be a curse I put on them :-)
but..they are not all personal friends. Just from what I heard. No big deal
by CitrusFLViking on May 14, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favre's streak
I wonder how long other streaks would have been in the NFL if players would have had been able to be on a quasi morphine drip while the doctors and media looked the other way.
by alwaystherealdeal2002 on May 12, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Crom!
At least there is one intelligent blogger here today. Favre was and is a QB LEGEND….if the rest of you cant handle that…well you know the rest.
by favre4evr on May 14, 2009 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
RIght on
I remember watching that 2005 classic playoff game when the Vikings crushed the Packers at Lambeau. Favre through the illegal forward pass, cost his time yardage and loss of down the Joe Buck and Troy Aikman acted like he was so great for trying to have some fun out there. Later in the game Moss fake mooned the crowd after a touchdown (this can be attributed to the way Packer fans have traditionally mooned the Viking bus as it leave Lambeau) and Joe Buck was all over him for this, calling it disgusting. But Favre could do pretty much anything and get a pass.
I am not sure if the Vikes will be better with him or with T-Jack and Sage but if he does sign at least it will make the season more interesting. I just hope he doesn’t stink up the joint here and T-Jack leaves to become the next McNabb.
by STLVikesFAN on May 12, 2009 5:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Brett
What the heck are you talking about. Every game GB lost the media blamed it on Brett. He never blamed his teammates in GB or Jets….he would always say he had to get better. God knows he made his mistakes but he had a lot of help and in most cases not much talent around him til late in GB and nothing in Jets.
by gwinn1952 on May 12, 2009 5:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There should be a 48 hour period before new members can post.
What the heck are you talking about.
Who?
Every game GB lost the media blamed it on Brett.
When?
He never blamed his teammates in GB or Jets….he would always say he had to get better.
No, that was Rex Grossman
…in most cases not much talent around him til late in GB …
Really?
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by Dane Noble on May 12, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Classic from Jim Rome
On Rome is Burning he starts the show off with “Favre is throwing at a local Miss, high school.” Rome responds with a sarcastic “Sweet!” and moves right on to the next topic.
Nothing more and he wouldn’t even comment on it.
by CitrusFLViking on May 12, 2009 6:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A lot of folks think Rome is a tool,
and I might agree with them at times. But when he is on his game, he can be pretty good.
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by Dane Noble on May 12, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He gets on my nerves a little
but, I liked how he handled that one. I got a good laugh.
by CitrusFLViking on May 12, 2009 6:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I know they do some fantasy game here
but if anyone is interested in doing a fun league on the espn program. I already set up a league the past 3 years for work buds, but it would be easy to set up another with the good folks here.
If any of you want to just resply to this post and I’ll set it up. If you don’t have an e-mail on your profile we’ll figure it out
by CitrusFLViking on May 12, 2009 6:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am all for a fantasy football league
I usually try to have about 5 leagues. I usually do one for 20 bucks, one for 50, and my main one is for 200. Makes it more interesting. But I always have a couple more that are free. I just love fantasy football. Drafting is one of the greatest days of the year!
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 12, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want yo get in one $ league
my fiends on the one I manage are from all over so chasing $ down is too much of a hastle plus some of them just want to keep it for fun. We may do a early draft but I’ll explain it later. Gotta see how everyone votes on it. If ya got room in one of yours and I can do it from FL, let me know.
Anyway write me at vikinglpf@yahoo.com and anyone else who is interested. I only check that mail every 3 or 4 days so give me some time to respond. Be happy to have ya.
Would be fun to challenge a few of you that I consider “HOF” bloggers on DN.
by CitrusFLViking on May 12, 2009 7:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dang I am tarded tonite
I wanted to get in
by CitrusFLViking on May 12, 2009 7:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
well said my friend.. well said..
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by vikingfromkuwait on May 12, 2009 11:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Kuwait
You still there or home. My son was there for a year. Let me know if you are and I can send some football magazines- Vikings Update, game day booklets, etc for any of the Vikes fans serving us over there to enjoy. Good luck.
by CitrusFLViking on May 13, 2009 9:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
BF(not the blue falcon)
AMEN sister…..you say it like it is…..GO DIKEQUEENS!!!!
by grim3per on May 13, 2009 1:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
noob.
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by Dane Noble on May 13, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on, if you’re going to insult us, at least come up with something funny or witty.
In AP I trust
Brett Favre should go die somwhere
by FarvaForTheVikings on May 13, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, this was the first time I’ve heard that one. So I give him an B for Originality. It would be an A, but he apparently doesn’t know how to spell dyke.
by Frost on May 13, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Almost a day now
with no stupid,unsubtantiated reports or BF sightings from Rachel. Poor girl must really be partying it up down there. Scouting out high schools, BBQ joints and gas stations has got to be getting old.
by CitrusFLViking on May 13, 2009 1:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry GB
He’ll be zapped by the mighty “purple phaser”
Any exciting reports from the Bears world?
by CitrusFLViking on May 13, 2009 2:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Aside from our site hitting 1 million visitors in the next couple of hours,
not much going on. Just hoping our rookies are developing as well as the coaches are saying they are, and plotting a way to go 2-0 against the Vikes!
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by Dane Noble on May 13, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha... don't count on it
I see the Bears and Vikings splitting the series this year
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 13, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Props to WCG
We’re probably going to cross the 850K threshold sometime today or in the wee hours of tomorrow morning.
Of course, WCG had an 8 or 9-month headstart on us, if the archives are accurate. (-;
I’m hoping we get to 1M before the start of the season. . .before the start of the summer would be even nicer, but I’d like to see it even more before we turn 3 in July.
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by Gonzo on May 13, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
POD is close too.
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by Dane Noble on May 13, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With the Packers
Sucking hind tit… as is only natural.
by sabbath999 on May 14, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Always fun to watch those games
Seems ya never know with the Bears. You might think they will do bad and then they come up with a team no one expects. Either way it is always a good divisional fight.
I love my Vikings, but until we get a better look at the QB situation the Black and blue" division could be up for grabs. If we had a franchise QB I proboly wouldn’t say that. But I’ll be at the little pub down the road with the non-native Florida Vikings fans cheering them on.
We have a following of Bears folks there to. Low key family place and we all get along well.
I was mentioning fantasy football and I’ll be running some leagues out of local sports establishments to raise $ for a disabled asso. that has helpe me. Fun way to help a good cause.
Have a great day. Guess I’ll hear from ya the next BF false alarm we get. :-)
by CitrusFLViking on May 13, 2009 2:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Favre
You sooooo hit the nail on the head!! I’ve been a diehard Viking fan since 1965. Whether he plays with us this year or not isn’t in my control. However,if he does and we should actually win a Super Bowl I’d love it!! Better Favre than T.O. or Vick. Things can always be worse.
If we don’t inprove,Childress needs to go!!
by george s on May 13, 2009 4:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Some Super Bowl Teams
have done well with above average QB’s The question is, will TJ or Sage prove to be above average.
NFL Live did an interesting comparison of each guys pro’s and con’s. Each have a lot of work to do. Without really saying it, they hinted that a BF experiment might be the better way to go. Saying if BF did lead them to a good enough record to win the division and came down with arm trouble Tjax might have learned enough last year to jump in and be more successful. That scenario didn’t do anything to thrill me. A starting QB who faulters with injuries and then gambling a guy learned enough to carry them the rest of the way after sitting the bench???
I guess if you have that much confidence in T-jax he shoud just start. Can’t believe I said that.
by CitrusFLViking on May 14, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favre
It is amazing how everyone here knows what Favre it thinking, how he treated other teammates and how he thinks and feels about everything. You people seem to know more then his family and friends. I think they may disagree. The simple truth is TT didn’t want Favre back after he drafted Rogers. Favre finally got tired of being disrespected by TT after the 2007 season and retired. He decided to come back for the 2008 season and the Packers told Favre that they didn’t want him back?? That has to be the worst that any player who was runner up for MVP the year before has ever been treated by an organization – shame on the Packers. Favre is respected by 99% of the people that really know him, but the few that bad mouth him get all of the press. Favre was the runner up for MVP in 2007 with a 13-3 record and then took a 4-12 Jets team to a 9-7 record (at one time they were 8-3 and ranked 2nd in the NFL). This was with virtually no preseason for him and with an offense that was competely different then he was used to. Most experts predicted that he would fail terribly with the Jets. He was elected to the Pro Bowl last year. The Jets defense played terrible during the last 5 games (worst in the NFL) and Thomas Jones had 2 games under 50 yards and none close to 100 during the last 5 games. I have read several articles that the receivers dropped more passes during the last 5 games then during the 11 before and the offensive line was non existant (Favre was running for his life on almost every play). I don’t know any QB that could win under those conditions. Favre will play for the Vikings and they will win the Super Bowl.
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