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Window of Opportunity, Part II

A few days ago, I looked at what kind of window of opportunity the Vikings had for a serious championship run.  Today, I want to continue down that path with a look at the defense.

DL:

Pat Williams, 37

Kevin Williams, 28

Jared Allen, 27

Kenechi Udeze, 26

Fred Evans, 26

Jimmy Kennedy, 30

Brian Robison, 26

Ray Edwards, 24

 

The Vikings defensive line is almost as dominant as the halcyon days of the legendary Purple People Eaters.  You don’t run on them, and quarterbacks drop back to pass at their own risk. They are at least as effective as the Keith Millard-Chris Doleman defensive lines of the early 1990’s, but the anchor of the line, Pat Williams, is going to be 37.  This line didn’t become dominant until ‘Phat Pat’ was signed, and it became elite when the Vikes traded for Jared Allen.  Pat Williams seems ageless, but he isn’t, and the Vikings need to look towards his eventual replacement.  There isn’t another Pat Williams currently on the roster, so something will need to be done.  When he is out of the lineup, the Vikings are not dominant as a run defense.  The rest of the line is in their prime, and if Kenechi Udeze can get back his strength and quickness, he will be a force in 2009, and will take this defensive line to another level.  Kevin Williams and Jared Allen have at least 5 more years playing together at an elite level; throw in a healthy Udeze, and these guys will be a lot of fun to watch.

 

Projection:  1-2 years, as the next Pat Williams needs to be identified.  If the Williams transition is seamless, 5-7 years of high end productivity.

LB:

Chad Greenway, 26

EJ Henderson, 29

Ben Leber, 31

Heath Farwell, 28

David Herron, 25

 The front line starters for the Vikings are one of the best LB tandems in the NFL.  They complement each other well, and are a solid mix of youth and veteran leadership.  But the replacements currently on the roster are not considered NFL-caliber starters, as the signings of ex-Vikings Napoleon Harris and Dontarrious Thomas showed.  Ben Leber is north of 30, EJ Henderson is approaching 30 and has an injury history, and Chad Greenway has developed into a quality NFL LB after a season ending knee injury as a rookie.  I thought that LB would be addressed early in the 2009 draft, but you can’t argue with Percy Harvin and Phil Loadholt.  LB’s can be had in free agency, and it should be a position of need next year in the draft.

Projection:  2 years, but they need depth right now.  Not re-signing Harris or Thomas could turn out to be a big mistake if one of the top three goes down.

DB:

 

Antoine Winfield, 32

Cedric Griffin, 27

Marcus McCauley, 26

Tyrell Johnson, 24

Madieu Williams, 28

Karl Paymah, 27

Asher Allen, 21

I love Antoine Winfield.  I mean, I started a blog called The Purple Buckeye, for God Sakes.  Winfield has been a mainstay in the defensive backfield, and has been the best all-around CB in the NFL for about his entire time in Minnesota.  I hope he retires a Viking, but with contract extension talks stalled, that seems up in the air.  But he’s north of 30, and the Vikings used a third round pick on Asher Allen, so Minnesota is laying the groundwork for Winfield’s eventual replacement.  The Vikings wisely inked Cedric Griffin to an extension, meaning that his productive years will be spent as a Viking.  For the safeties, Tyrell Johnson has already taken over for Darren Sharper and will be a fixture for several years, and Madieu Williams has 3-4 years of above average production left.  Overall, this unit looks pretty good, as long as Allen can get close to the level of THE Antoine Winfield, a tall order indeed. 

Projection:  Winfield will probably be replaced after 2009, 3-5 years after that. 

There is no need to raise the alarm yet, but the defense, which has done most of the heavy lifting on this team during the Brad Childress era, is the side of the ball where the window opening is currently the smallest.  The line, linebackers, and defensive backfield will need to be addressed, both for front-line starters and depth, especially in the linebacking corps.  If the starters can stay relatively healthy in 2009 and 2010, this defense, with a ferocious defensive line that can neuter a running game and punish a quarterback that dare try to pass, can take this team a long way.  But Ben Leber, Antoine Winfield, and Pat Williams, key veterans that made this defense what it is, will be replaced in the next few years, and who comes in behind them will largely determine how competitive the Vikings will be. 

Along with the play of the quarterback.

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Fine work, once again!

Great job with the analysis once again.

I have a few points of contention, as usual, but we mostly agree.

First of all, I think even if Pat is injured/ou, Fred Evans does a fine job replacing him. The Vikings run D did quite well against Philly in the playoffs, outside of the big play to Westbrook. Either way, I agree, Pat needs to have a true run stuffer replace him, but Fred Evans can help in the short term though.

As for the linebackers, while I do like Ben Leber, he is the weakest link in our LB corp. I wouldn’t be surprised to see us find someone to replace him sooner rather than later. As for E.J., should he prove unable to stay healthy (or just too old for the Wilf’s taste.. >.>), look for Jasper Brinkley, or maybe even his younger brother, Erin, to replace him.

In the defensive backfield… I think Winfield will be resigned, but it will be a short deal, and Allen will replace him after that contract.

by Eric The Viking on May 15, 2009 11:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bravo

I didn’t have the fortune to read part 1. But I agree that Pat Williams is looking at his last years as a player that turns the middle into a “U” at the snap of the ball. I think he could still be serviceable in ‘11-’12 as a situational DT. Bring him in on obvious running plays, but only play him half the downs. Whether or not they come across a DT in draft or FA will they decide to use him that way.

Kevin and Jared are both in their primes, and I see them making the pro-bowl for 3 or 4 more consecutive years. It will be nice having Jared at full strength, he still dominated even when he was using one arm. Ray Edwards, if he keeps his wild predictions in check and jsut focuses on beating his one on one, he should have a more effective season. E.J. Henderson, as it goes for all players, stays healthy he also play at a pro-bowl level for 3 or 4 years. Greenway is solid. He’s got a nose for the ball and he’s still young and full of energy. Leber, i’m not sold on. I think he will only slow down, and he’s not the lightning rod to begin with. He sticks his nose anywhere, but sometimes he regrets it. I think we could find a more solid Bull Backer. Maybe thats where Brinkley will end up filling in. However, brinkley might have problems keeping up with a tight end. Miss-matches.

CB- Winfield is my 2nd favorite, as E.J. Henderson is a man beast, and i love his physical style of play. I’ll have to admit though, noone is tougher then Winfield, whose the smallest guy on the D. Griffin is a solid player, and I agree we will have him in his most productive years, lets just hope they are far better then what he’s done so far. Asher Allen sounds like a great cover CB. The ball was hardly ever thrown at him regardless of who he was lined up against. We will see how that fairs in the NFL, when teams will pick on him, regardless of how highly respected he was in college.

I like Madieu. When he was in the lineup I felt alot more confident in our cover 2. Its hard to get into the swing of things after missing the first 8 + weeks while everyone else has a good 2 months of football under their belt. I think he will have 5X the INT’s in 09’.

Window for defense (possible 3-4 years of high productivity (superbowl quality) with the current players)

by PurpleJesuZ on May 16, 2009 1:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well Done, P.II

I agree with your assessment, and again, having concrete age numbers to look over is a lot more functional than just tossing out hysteria and angst, lol.

Bones;

Farwell re-signed this year with the condition that he get more actual LB play, rather than being special teams specialist. Fair enough, but what’s that going to do to the LB corps (other than give some folks a break)? I’m really looking forward to seeing what he can do in a regular lb slot.

On Asher… I think in college, the respect he got was due to the fear he generated. The man had a nasty habit of flying into the screen out of nowhere, and I mean, literally flying. Full body aerial tackles, well timed and hard.

by DCPurple on May 18, 2009 7:18 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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