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Saturday's Notebook: The Favre Revenge Factor

Why, hello there.

First things first -- I'm Anthony, the new guy here at Daily Norseman.  I'm a lifelong Vikings fan, a Twin Cities resident, and someone who isn't ashamed to admit that I desperately cling to a hope that I'll witness this team claiming the Lombardi Trophy at some point during my life (but hey, that's what being a fan of the purple is all about).

I've said it before and I'll say it again -- there isn't another team in professional sports that I find quite as compelling as the Vikings.  A team that's frequently been on the cusp of winning the big one, and yet has an uncanny ability to break your heart time and time again.  I like to use the Charlie Brown analogy in talking Vikes -- the ball has been yanked away from us each year since the 1961 season, but somehow, with the 50th Super Bowl-less season on the horizon (sorry for reminding you), there's not another NFL team we'd even consider rooting for.  Once you become a Vikings fan, it ain't easy to escape.  In an odd way, you've gotta love being a fan of the National Football League's perpetual underdogs -- there's a charm to it, in a sense.

Here's to a great 2009 season -- and in the meantime, Gonzo, myself, and everyone else here at Daily Norseman will be working to keep you updated on your favorite team.  And with that, let's dive into some news and notes, shall we?

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Brett Favre Declares He Shall Kick Ted Thompson's Ass

Though the lunatics nut jobs crazies passionate fans of the Green Bay Packers might tell you differently, it's important to remember that Brett Favre is, after all, a human being and is prone to the human emotions that us humans commonly experience in the midst of our human affairs.  As such, you can bet that he'd love to give Teddy Thompson's team a good ass-whooping twice a season -- in fact, rumor has it that the graying quarterback even said something of the sort to Roger Goodell:

Scott Hanson of NFL Network reports that retired (for now) quarterback Brett Favre told NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell that Packers G.M. Ted Thompson doesn’t want Favre to play for Minnesota "because he knows I’ll kick his ass twice a year."

I wouldn't doubt it. 

Both sides -- Favre and Thompson -- did indeed handle the situation poorly last summer, so it's certainly shortsighted for Farve to pin that circus on the tail of the Packers front office. (Can ya really blame them for wanting to turn the page on the Favre regime while desiring to see what they had in Aaron Rogers?)  But hey, if he ends the drama, joins up with the Vikes, and the kick-Thompson's-ass factor provides him motivation for producing two memorable performances when the Vikings encounter the Pack, then let the ass-kicking commence as far as I'm concerned. 

There are a number of factors that will play into Favre's decision on whether or not to make a return, but there's absolutely no question that the possibility of a little revenge will be nudging him back to the field.

Now, it's probably important to draw a distinction here between the general football culture in Green Bay and the elements of the front office that Favre feels bungled his desire to make a comeback last year.  We may enjoy ourselves in making fun of the disturbing unstable obsessive dedicated folks who flock to Lambeau Field on a regular basis, but I don't doubt that Favre still possesses great respect for the football culture of Green Bay.  He just lost respect for the fellas inhabiting the front office, namely our pal Ted.

Favregeddon: Paying a Visit to Dr. Andrews

In other Favre news, you've more than likely heard by now that Brett has paid a visit to a certain very well-known surgeon to explore treatment options for his partially torn biceps.

Quarterback Brett Favre consulted renowned orthopedic surgeon Dr. James Andrews regarding options for healing the partially torn biceps tendon in his throwing shoulder this week, according to a source.

The source said Andrews and Favre experimented with one of several exercises that could accelerate the process of the tendon releasing on its own. During an interview with ESPN in February, Favre mentioned that he had a partially torn biceps tendon in his left shoulder during his Green Bay Packers career and that the pain subsided once it completely tore naturally.

On the subject of factors that could either push Favre back to the league or keep him on his riding lawnmower in Hattiesburg, I'd argue that this is virtually the only reason that could keep him in retirement.  True, a valid argument could be made for the enthusiasm with which the Vikings approach him -- failing to sufficiently pad his ego could very well prompt Brett to remain retired -- but at the end of the day, he's coming back if he's healthy enough to avoid surgery.  As unreliable as the mainstream media's been throughout this saga, that seems to be the common narrative in the reporting we've seen: If he's healthy, he'll be in purple.

Disregard the supposed back-and-forth that Favre is going through.  Patrick Reusse hit the nail on the head a couple weeks ago -- this is all part of the Brett Favre dance.  Don't know if I agree with Reusee's argument that Favre's desire to return is the result of "a weird insecurity," but I see little doubt that Favre's gonna drag his feet on this to avoid the OTAs.  Unfortunately for us, that means several more weeks of the manufactured storylines in the mainstream media, several more weeks of the all-knowing unnamed sources either telling us that a deal is imminent or that it's all suddenly falling apart, and several more weeks of this team remaining in limbo.  If you want Favre, though, that's just the price you pay.

(Sorry Gonzo -- despite the news of Favre having his injury checked out, I think we're still a loooong way from witnessing the final act of this three-ring circus.)

Bizarre Charlie Walters Theory of the Day

The "Bird Whisperer," Charlie Walters, has always been more entertainment than anything for me.  Not exactly a journalistic integrity aficionado, this wildly inaccurate columnist's idea of reporting is essentially dreaming up implausible rumors and theories -- like this one, for example:

The timing of the impasse of the Minnesota Vikings' contract extension talks with Pro Bowl cornerback Antoine Winfield is becoming curious.

The Vikings might be waiting to see if they can sign quarterback Brett Favre, 39, who could cost as much as $10 million this year, before deciding whether to sign Winfield, 31, who can become an unrestricted free agent next year and could cost almost $14 million over two years.

Well, it is certainly a shame that talks broke down between the Vikings and the Winfield camp earlier this week, but was it because of the Favre rumors?  I think not, Mr. Walters.  It is indeed curious timing -- I'll give him that -- but, uh, there isn't gonna be a salary cap in 2010 and the Vikes have plenty o' cap room as it is.  I'm just as disappointed as anyone that this team failed to lock down an outstanding cornerback in Winfield for the rest of his career, but I don't quite see the cause-and-effect relationship between that and the Favre saga that Shooter does.

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As tired as I am of the Favre drama, I found this post to be quite enjoyable to read.

Welcome Anthony. I look forward to reading more of your writing in the years to come.

by Lofoten on May 16, 2009 9:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Agreed.

Excellent first post.

In AP I trust
Brett Favre should go die somwhere

by FarvaForTheVikings on May 16, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

It does get exhausting, doesn’t it? Heard Randy Shaver on the radio yesterday predicting that Favre would ink with the Vikes in early July — I sure as hell hope Brett has some mercy on us and makes his decision much sooner than that, but Shaver might not be too inaccurate. Thanks for the kind words, guys!

by Anthony21 on May 16, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nice post, new guy (j/k)

Seriously, I’m with you on Charley Walters. The little birdie is nothing more than his deranged thoughts and ideas on what he thinks the Vikes should do. I remember a couple years back ‘a little’ birdie kept telling him, and only him, that the Vikes would be wise to pursue Chris Weinke.

Glad you’re posting on Daily Norseman now!!

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by Ted Glover on May 16, 2009 11:46 AM CDT reply actions  

Fascinating

I never thought I would be applying Mr. Spock’s favorite word to an article which included the views of both Messrs. Reusse and Walters. Congratulations on this acheivement.

Favre is only human. He’s driving a lawn tractor, not out panhandling for nickels, so motivation for playing at this stage of his life has to come from somewhere. You have to have a driving desire to take up a career that makes you feel like you’ve been in a car wreck at the start of every week in the fall. Just because many people would rather go on a foliage trip doesn’t make Favre loony. Favre’s wanting to win another Super Bowl is no crazier than anyone else’s desire to win it all, and if you can’t dislike a boss who once thwarted you, then whom can you dislike?

As the Kennedys said, don’t get mad, get even.

Contract negotiations really only “break down” when someone decides never to discuss it again and he or she actually means that. It’s probably more like a “stand off.” The description “break down” is used loosely in the press to hook people into reading, because it sounds like a train wreck happened when a coupler failed . Determining how much Winfield’s services are worth and for what duration he can remain effective playing (much like determining how good Brett’s arm is and how best to get it into playing condition) requires both some dance-like maneuvers and the passage of time. If there weren’t an art involved in negotiation, agents wouldn’t be worth paying.

Sometimes bad deals are the ones which are signed too quickly.

by Elgar on May 16, 2009 7:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Welcome Aboard!

Nice writing and interesting lights shined on both topics. Most of the time I have no use for Reusse’s self-serving statements but to a point I agree; This is the pro-sports legend two-step. Where I disagree is the implication that Favre invented it, that he’s the first one to waffle on whether or not to stay retired. He isn’t.

I also appreciate the lack of hand-wringing on the topic, good writing :)

by DCPurple on May 17, 2009 6:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Excellent Point

The media gets so caught up in the theme of Favre going back and forth, they often make it seem like he’s the only professional athlete to ever change his mind, be indecisive about his future, etc. — hell, I’m even calling it the Brett Favre Dance, so I suppose I’m guilty as well.

by Anthony21 on May 17, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’ll believe revenge, love of the game, wanting to go out on a high note, etc. are important to Favre when he signs for league minimum. Beyond that, why he wants to play isn’t really the important thing. It’s IF he wants to play. My gut tells me he will play and that this will be one of the most interesting and compelling seasons Vikings fans have witnessed in a long time. I just think that the media wants a sense of urgency from the Vikings or from Favre and there is no need for urgency from either party. He knows the offense and doesn’t need to be there for all the preseason stuff, and he’s not going to play for any other team, so what’s the hurry?

And welcome Anthony, looking forward to reading more from you.

by Bodysuit Man on May 17, 2009 8:58 PM CDT reply actions  

I see what you're saying

My only concern is that the Favre drama is leaving the team in a state of limbo — T-Jack and Rosenfels are heading to minicamp this week without any idea of what’s in store for them this season, which is obviously a less-than-ideal situation. Though I agree 100% that the media wants a sense of urgency — and if they fail to get it, they simply manufacture Favre-related storylines to keep us tuned in. Thanks for the welcome!

by Anthony21 on May 17, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

welcome Anthony21

I think this is excellent for Sagevaris Jacksonfels. Both of them need to know that they need to drastically step up their game. We will see what they are made of this off season. They should be going into training camp with the mentality that it doesn’t matter who is brought in, and that they are going to do whatever it takes to win the starting job. If BF does come in, they need to push themselves even harder. Try to win the starting gig (not likely). And if they do not win the top spot, they will need to compete for the back up role, and take advantage of a season behind BF and learn all they can from him so they can come out next year and show the world what they are capable of.

by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 17, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I find it funny.

I find it funny that for years everybody in Viking land thought Brett was washed up and over the hill. It was a weekly ritual to editorialize the fact that he needed to retire. That was back in 2007.

Now somehow he is going to “kick Green Bay’s ass” twice a season? What changed?

Perhaps the first year of the new defense leaves GB as an easy mark.

Brett in cold weather has proven to be pretty bad the past three years.

Sign him if you guys like, but to expect a Brett that is somehow different than last year would seem optimistic.

It’ll sell the tickets and really, that’s what this is all about right now.

by kcus_sgniikiv on May 18, 2009 7:45 AM CDT reply actions  

+1

In AP I trust
Brett Favre should go die somwhere

by FarvaForTheVikings on May 18, 2009 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey kcus_srekcap.

That is what you meant, right? You ask what has changed since everybody in Vikes land thought Favre was washed up? Well, nothing in my mind. He needs to just let it go. I have not said much about this since the soap opera began. I only hope that if it happens, it will not cause a division in the fans.

"Skol pa fiskande"

by NobleSavage on May 18, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

It’s true. I thought he was washed up. And then he came out in ‘07 and just kicked too much ass. And then, I figured that was his last hurrah. He was done. Washed up this time. And then he went to the Jets and kicked ass for 11 games before getting hurt. I’ve learned my lesson. The man clearly has alot more in the tank than I could imagine.

And yes, Brett in Cold Weather is terrible. That’s where he threw about half of his final 9 picks last year, a cold day in Seattle. But thankfully, Minnesota not only plays in a dome, but we only have one or two games on the schedule outdoors in the later months. And for those games we shouldn’t depend so much on Favre, since I know one of them is against the Bears, and we all know how Peterson owns that defense.

by Frost on May 19, 2009 7:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

typical response

why is it the vikings fans — who had the upmost trouble selling out the H.H.H. Buble-topped barn for a playoff game — always excuse their own poor fanbase by labeling the Packers fans lunatics.
While some Vikings fans -which probably includes the author of this article - are passionate, intelligent and well-verse, many are not. Many have little football knowledge and plenty of bandwagon, reactionary tendencies.
The Packers constantly rate near or at the top in national fan base, fan loyalty, stadium experience and overall professional sport franchise rankins. ESPN the magazine, Sports Illustrated, and pretty much every non-bias national media outlet ranks the Packers organization and their fans as some of the best in sports. The vikings never even register a blip on the radar.
To make up for their lack of stadium experience, fan base and championships, they simply attack the Packers fans for their love, passion and college-like team loyalty.
The vikings are simply the inferior franchise.
And if Favre goes to the Vikings to spite Ted Thompson, he will also indirectly spite the fans of Green Bay. He will tear down what took 16 years to build. What a fool he would be.
Chao.

by medipaul on May 18, 2009 10:31 AM CDT reply actions  

Typical Packers Response

Why is it that Packers fans feel the need to troll onto this site to make comments about our team when we could care less what goes on over at the Acme Packing Company? Are things really that dull over there? Are you secretly hoping that Brett will come back to you so you might have a chance of seeing a playoff game this year without having to buy a ticket? Admit it. The only reason you’re trolling over here is to try to find out what your precious Favre is up to and you hoping that he stays retired because if he puts on a purple jersey this year, it’ll be your biggest nightmare. So what if he “spites the fans of Green Bay” and tears down what took 16 years to build. Apparently he could care the hell less. So much for your “superior franchise”. BTW, I wouldn’t put too much faith in those publications you listed as the gospel. Most of them have a reputation these days as jokes anyway.

by purplegrey on May 18, 2009 3:22 PM CDT reply actions  

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