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Wednesday's Notebook: OTAs Launch Amid Favre Confusion

Trying to Focus on Football

Monday certainly wasn't the first instance of seeing two separate reports on Favre directly contradict each other within the span of 24 hours, and after this week's back-and-forth between Shooter and Ed Werder, it doesn't seem like an end to the Favre circus is within sight, after all.  Still, you've gotta appreciate what the Vikings have to do as the OTAs kick off: Turn their focus back to the football field.

And hey, it's not like the OTAs give us any shortage of storylines to track -- as of this moment, the quarterback competition between Rosenfels and Jackson is still alive and well, this is Harvin's first on-the-field action as a Minnesota Viking, new elements of the offensive line hit the field this week, and there are other scattered positional battles unfolding around the depth chart.  Plenty of things to watch in addition to the Chronicles of Favre.

I'm probably most anxious to hear about the first impression made by the newcomers on the offensive line.  After years of Matt Birk-provided stability up front, we now get to see what we've got in John Sullivan, a relative unknown.  Not to mention the on-the-job training that Phil Loadholt is under a huge amount of pressure to handle with poise.  True, the continued quarterback speculation and the battle for the starting WR slot alongside Berrian will garner the most media attention, but the storylines surrounding the big uglies up front certainly deserve their fair share of coverage.

There are a few reports on the opening day of the OTAs, and Mike Wobschall of Vikings.com has a solid recap posted on his blog.  I've got a quick highlight from his report after the jump, along with some Sidney Rice talk, more Favregeddon, and an update on the NFL's proposed schedule expansion...

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The Young and the Restless

Wobschall notes that Albert Young, who enters the OTAs listed as the team's third-string running back, had quite a bit of action on Tuesday:

RB Albert Young had a lot of touches today and looked pretty good. He has quick feet and is learning from a great coach in Eric Bieniemy as well as 2 pretty solid veterans in Adrian Peterson and Chester Taylor.

OK, OK...of all the training camp battles to watch, the one for the third-string running back slot might not exactly be the most compelling.  But the acquisition of Boise State's Ian Johnson (otherwise known as that one guy who proposed to his girlfriend after the 2007 Fiesta Bowl) suddenly makes this a spot to watch during the OTAs and training camp.  Although there will be scant carries available to anyone outside of the Peterson-Taylor-Harvin group, a roster spot is a roster spot -- and both Johnson and Young have a legitimate opportunity to nab it.

Rice Blogs About Harvin

Sidney Rice made a new blog post yesterday to mark the first day of OTAs, and he spent some time sharing his thoughts on Percy Harvin -- who, of course, will be competing with him for a starting job:

Lots of questions about Percy Harvin our new receiver. Yes, we’re competing for the same position, but we’re teammates so I want to help him along so he can do his best and help us win games. Anything he needs, I’m going to be there for him. Having someone look out for you when you come into the league is a big help. I had Troy Williamson, Robert Ferguson, Bobby Wade.

Hey, it's great that Robert Ferguson and Bobby Wade helped out Rice when he entered the league, but here's hoping he politely declined Troy Williamson's words of wisdom.  Anyways, I like what Rice has accomplished through his blog: He's shown that he's a class act, that he's just as frustrated as we are about how he played last season, and that he knows he needs to fight to retain a starting job.  There's little question that giving Rice the starting nod over Harvin could be somewhat difficult for Chilly to justify given the excitement surrounding Harvin and Rice's rough 2008 season, and ultimately, I think Sidney understands what he's up against.

Commish: Did Favre Even Retire?

Curious note from a Roger Goodell press conference at the league's owners meetings -- apparently, the Commish isn't sure if Brett Favre even officially retired:

Commissioner Roger Goodell may have thrown intrigue into Brett Favre's status on Tuesday.

Meeting reporters at the NFL owners meetings in Fort Lauderdale, Goodell laughed off a question about Favre's status.

"I don't know if he officially retired," Goodell said. "He may have. I don't know."

Sort of a yawner, but hey, now we get to wonder if Favre even filed his retirement papers.  Zulgad reminds us that, according to a February report in the New York Daily News, Favre supposedly filed his papers after informing the Jets that he wouldn't be sticking around, so this Goodell quote certainly calls that into question.  Does it make one ounce of difference whether or not Favre officially retired?  Not really, but Goodell's uncertainty on the topic is a tad strange.

Favregeddon Rolls Along

In other Favre news, we know that #4 may not have met with Dr. James Andrews yesterday to discuss surgery for his right shoulder, but an NFL Network report makes it clear that he's still very active in assessing his throwing arm:

The NFL Network confirmed Tuesday that the retired quarterback, who is in the process of determining if his right shoulder is healthy enough to let him return next season, had a cortisone shot and threw the ball last week.

True, this news may deserve a resounding "meh," but it does continue to contradict Shooter's suggestion that Favre would be open to surgery.  Indeed, it remains clear that Favre absolutely does not want to have his shoulder operated on, and that this thing may very well fall through if nonsurgical methods don't do the trick.

An Expanded NFL Season? Not Quite Yet

Looks like the owners aren't prepared to vote on expanding the NFL regular season schedule to 17 or 18 games -- according to the Commish, a proposal will not be finalized at the owners meetings which would cut the preseason in half and add the extra game or two onto the end of the current 16-game schedule.  This has always been a tough debate, since you've gotta like the possibility of another game or two of meaningful football, but it's also important to take the additional risk of injury and physical wear-and-tear into account.

Both CBS and Fox support the proposed schedule expansion which could have a good amount of influence on the league's final decision -- then again, though, there could be a high health cost for even one or two more regular season games.  A concerning possibility, even for those of us anxious to see an expanded schedule.

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I'm opposed to an extended season

Yes, the pre-season games are garbage games and really, they’re not that fun to watch. But the big thing for me about football is the lack of games. Every game counts so much more. A five game losing streak in baseball or basketball can be laughed off. A five game losing streak in football is a season-ender.

Additionally, that will increase the wear and tear on the players so that by the end of the season, it becomes like pre-season again with all of the secondary players filling in for the injured players.

When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.

by Robert Rence on May 20, 2009 8:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I am also opposed to an extended NFL season, for the same reasons as Robert Rence. Each game would mean less, and there would be more wear and tear on the starters.

I’m hoping Ian Johnson makes the roster, simply because he helped create my favorite college football game ever.

These conspiracy theories are getting ridiculous. I really hope Goodell was just joking and we’re reading too much into it.

In AP I trust
Brett Favre should go die somwhere

by FarvaForTheVikings on May 20, 2009 9:07 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Give me more football!

I’m all for the expanded season. As we saw last season, the extra wear and tear argument is kind of a moot point. Our ST’s Aces got cut down in the pre-season, and we weren’t the only team to have taken injuries in non-meaningful games. Injuries happen, for sure, but I’d much rather lose a player in a game that counts than one that doesn’t.

And sure, games would be a little less meaningful, but that’s not going to be such a huge deal. 18 games vs 16. The 5 game losing streak mentioned above is still going to be just as hard to overcome as it would be in a 16 game season.

by Frost on May 20, 2009 11:43 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

One step at a time

If there is any concern about the wear and tear, they should start by just adding the one game and reducing the preseason to either 3 or 4 games. They could give teams two byes and make sure they weren’t too close together. They could also have an entire week off for the whole NFL or maybe have an NFC week off followed by an AFC week off to help with the wear and tear by slipping a little extra time off in between.

Honestly I think if we went to 2 preseason games and 18 regular season games with two byes per team it would be equal or less than the current wear and tear. One week off probably makes up for the extra two weeks on.

I mean, who doens’t want more football!!

by Sand0 on May 20, 2009 12:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

if it ain't broke don't fix it

I agree, games become much less meaningful with every one we add. Cutting down the preseason would cause the team depth to suffer for the severely decreased amount of preseason evaluation.

by Cobra312004 on May 20, 2009 1:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

When will Favre Just come out and sign with the Vikings?

I like Brett Favre and I know he has some arm issues, but lets face it the man loves attention from the media about his retirement. Would love to see Brett come to the Viks if for anything to see All Day run when 9 men can’t load in the box against him. His numbers could go to 2,000 rushing and 20 touchdowns. And that can happen even if Favre has a bum arm because defenses will still have to respect him down the field. Even if Brett only throws it deeps 3 or 4 time a game, what an impact that would have on the offense.
Lets go Brett sign up pay back the Pack!

by fantasy-info on May 20, 2009 2:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

??

so does that mean you are for or against and expanded season? i didn’t quite follow the logic there.

by iseepurplepeople on May 20, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Opposed

The season is long enough. As can be seen by the Vikings’ schedule this year, some teams cannot get stadium space early due to baseball. As for playing deeper into winter, ice bowls are only classics because they are rare, not because they demostrate better football. Having fewer games means each game means more, so that victory is more vital. I everyone had plenty of diamonds, diamonds would be cheap.

by Elgar on May 20, 2009 4:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Would be in favor, except...

I was always up for more Vikes, anytime, anywhere,
then Chili came to town, and now I don’t think I could stand the frustration associated with the constant tedium of run, run, screen, punt for even 1 more regular season game per year.
Unless the Vikes wise up and ice Chili, don’t sign me up for an extended season.

by IceChili on May 20, 2009 6:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t want the NFL to change at all. I don’t want a Pro-Bowl in Miami. I don’t want a Super Bowl or even a game in London. And I don’t want any increase in Regular Season games. I’m sick of all these stupid changes the game is fine as is leave it alone.

by Zoxide on May 20, 2009 7:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+ 1000

I totally agree

by nmvikesfan on May 21, 2009 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Extending the season

Can be accomplished by adding another bye week. Teams would play the same number of games but the TV contract would be extended to 18 weeks of the regular season. This would provide much needed rest for the players and get the owners the money they crave without having to increase labor costs too much because the players are still on a 16 game slate.

I also think that this is subterfuge on the part of Roger Goodall. They want some big changes from the players union and so they are introducing something that is VERY unpopular to the players that can be used as a bargaining chip in future negotiations.

Norm Green still sucks!

by diok9 on May 21, 2009 7:10 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Extend it

Expanding the Season

The games are being played anyway, in the pre-season; might as well let them count for something other than getting our first string players injured for nothing.

I think they should do two things… extend the season to 18 or even 20 games.. and at the same time, insert 2 ‘bye’ weeks during the season. That gives the players two ‘rest points’ during the season so that they can get a breather. I think that doing these two things will result in a healthier player, not one that’s more worn down. Might want to consider increasing the active roster to 60 or 65 men, too, for additional relief players, but that probably isn’t necessary.

Days of our Receivers

For some reason I keep thinking of Bobby Wade as the ‘old man’ on the receiver corps, but in reality, he’s only 28 and probably entering into his best years right now. Harvin could easily play opposite Berrian, or he could take Wade’s spot. Hate to say this, but if someone’s got to go, I suspect it’ll be either Allison or Johnson.

RBs

Wish I was there to watch this battle unfold… and like many, I’m pulling for Ian Johnson. I didn’t see his famous proposal, but I watched his running game and I was impressed; but can he block?

by DCPurple on May 21, 2009 8:18 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

recievers

I have been thinking about who is out in out WR corps too. I don’t see the Vikings going to a 4-WR set any time soon, which means there is only room for 3 starters.
Obviously Berrian is a given.
The other two are questionable.
I would love for Sidney to step up his game this year, and be the WR opposite BB. This would allow the quick Harvin to play the slot/ move around the field.
If this happens, that means Bobby Wade is the odd man out of the rotation. As you listed, he is only 28, and entering the best years of his career. He is not flashy, but he always seems to come through when the Vikings need a 1st down. Can we get that same type of production from Harvin? If Wade is the odd man out, that will mean that quite a bit of cash will be invested in the 4th WR.
Maybe Harvin will be the return specialist, and rotate in and out with Wade.
Maybe this is all a moot point because Sidney Rice will not step his game up, and will be relegated to the 4th spot. (I hope not)

by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 21, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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