Friday's Notebook: Chilly Sidesteps Favre Talk
Get Yer Brett Favre Jerseys!
I had to laugh at a FirstCuts article that highlighted a notable piece of Favre-related Vikings apparel on eBay -- a Favre Vikings jersey that happens to look pretty dang authentic.
Sure, perhaps people should wait until he actually signs with the team to start peddling Favre Vikings jerseys, but I think it raises an interesting question: Simply put, would you want to buy one of these?
Many Vikings fans would rush out the day Favre jerseys become available to buy one. Others wouldn't even consider purchasing one. Admittedly, I imagine I'd fall in the former category -- I'd buy one for the novelty factor, if nothing else. It's one of those items that, two or three years ago, you wouldn't have even fathomed seeing on a store shelf.
After the jump, we've got a bunch of quarterback talk -- Chilly's comments on Favre, an interesting quote from T-Jack, and even a John David Bootycall. But I want to hear your thoughts on the jersey question -- if Favre inks a deal with the Vikings, would you buy his jersey? Let me know in the poll below and comments section.
Childress: Favre is Retired
Thursday saw a rare occasion at Winter Park: Chilly making on-the-record comments about the Favre drama. He was quite open at yesterday's press conference about having past contact with Favre, and like Mark Wilf, he acknowledged interest in the veteran quarterback -- but ultimately, Chilly denied that he's focused on Favre:
The coach confirmed for the first time this year...that he's spoken with Favre, but said their last contact was "several weeks ago" and solely by phone.
"It was worth a conversation," Childress said, "and as far as I know he's still retired."
"You're interested in going through the process," the coach said. "And are you interested in a Hall of Fame caliber quarterback? You're always interested in going through the process and discussing it and investigating it."
"He's retired, so it's not relevant and it's not any of my focus right now," Childress said.
This is a classic Chilly response, and I actually think he got the job done with this remark. If you're Brad Childress, your goal is to sidestep any Favre talk at the OTA press conference and do whatever you can to somehow lessen the distraction that all the rumors have created -- which is a losing battle given the sheer intensity of the speculation surrounding this team, but Chilly did what he could. I respect that.
Aside from the "I'm-not-focused-on-this" stuff he fed the media yesterday, you've also gotta be struck by the fact that he admitted to a variety of phone conversations with Favre. Not that it's surprising, but a quote from the presser -- some highlights of which were posted yesterday evening here -- caught my eye: "I'd be lying to you if I said I hadn't been talking to him. I talked to him, just like I did last year, three months ago." I certainly hope those conversations last year were about lawn care or the weather, Chilly! That whole tampering thing was a pain in the ass.
If you're a Vikings rube who isn't jumping up and down about the idea of Favre in purple, I suppose you can be pleased that Chilly's last direct contact with Favre was apparently several weeks ago. I dunno, you might view that as implying Favre isn't quite as enthusiastic about the possibility of playing for the Vikings as the media is suggesting he is, but that'd probably be stretching things quite a bit too far beyond the actual quote.
Oh Yeah, There's a Quarterback Competition
It's almost bizarre to remember that, as of this very moment, the quarterback competition between Tarvaris Jackson and Sage Rosenfels is still very much alive. Zulgad caught up with both folks on Thursday -- and I found this quote from T-Jack to be interesting in addressing an area he thinks he needs to improve in:
That big mistake. I tend to try to make the big play sometimes, try to save every play like I did in ‘07. I got a little bit better at that [in 2008], but a couple of plays I wish I could have back. Just going out there and just playing. At the beginning of the year, I wasn’t playing like myself. I was trying not to make mistakes and being very passive, not being aggressive, not really being Tarvaris. Just going ahead and letting it ride and whatever happens, happens.
Ya know, for all of his faults -- and I've been as critical of T-Jack as anyone -- that's unquestionably an area he's shown improvement in as his career's progressed. We saw him throw some balls away last year, scramble around to salvage some plays, and that proved quite effective in keeping the big mistakes to a minimum. Sure, he was often tentative with the football, but he only threw three interceptions last season (I counted the playoff game in that total).
So really, I'd partially disagree with Tarvaris. I don't think the next stage of his progression is necessarily continuing to avoid mistakes -- I think it's maintaining some of the discipline he displayed last season and taking some more chances while still being smart with the football.
Keep throwing the ball away when there's nothing available, keep scrambling for a few yards here and there to salvage a broken play, but for crying out loud, let's start being aggressive. Especially in the earlier parts of the 2008 season, T-Jack was so damn tentative with the football -- which was partly his fault for lacking confidence, and partly the coaching staff's fault for keeping him on too tight of a leash. He's got a number of good targets out there...how about we put them to good use?
By continuing to display an increased level of discipline, he could absolutely win a training camp quarterback competition with Rosenfels, and in fact, I'd be very surprised if he didn't win it under those circumstances. Two reasons: Chilly's obsessed with execution and will naturally lean toward the quarterback that makes the fewest big mistakes within the system, and...well, do ya really see Childress abandoning Tarvaris Jackson after the last three seasons? This quarterback competition talk could very well go out the window in the next weeks/months, but I think T-Jack has the right mindset heading into the summer.
Booty, Booty, Booty...No Longer Rockin' Everywhere?
Over at Fanhouse, JJ Cooper wonders...if Favre decides to wear the purple and gold next year, what happens to John David Booty?
If Favre does join the Vikes, all of a sudden Booty would be on very shaky ground. It's hard to believe that Minnesota will keep four quarterbacks. Favre would be one, Sage Rosenfels would be No. 2 and all of a sudden Booty is battling Tarvaris Jackson for a roster spot -- and no matter what you think of Jackson, it's hard to imagine the Vikings would cut him when he's still relatively inexpensive and is coming off of his best season as a pro.
Right, no chance the Vikings cut Jackson -- there's absolutely no question that Booty's the odd man out if Favre signs. Favre is strictly a one-season solution at the quarterback position, and this team would still have to go back to the drawing board once again in 2010 to get its act together under center. If you honestly see Jackson as a viable starting quarterback in this league, as Chilly clearly does, you keep paying him even when Favre comes in.
Can't say I'd be heartbroken if JDB was let go. Saw him as (best case scenario) a borderline starter at the NFL level when the Vikes took him in the fifth round last year, but I tended to view him more as a backup quarterback over the long-term. You've gotta feel bad when his future with the Vikings is in the hands of Brett Favre, but it's a business.
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Agreed
There are a lot more jerseys I’d rather own than a QB that would only be with us 1-2 years tops.
Checklist before getting a Favre jersey
A throwback Peterson Jersey
Jared Allen
Percy Harvin
Chad Greenway
Kevin Williams
Visanthe Shiancoe (for novelty value if nothing else, no one has one)
I'd make a list of jerseys I'd rather want...
But just saying “every other Viking, EVER” will suffice.
Yes, even the immortal Donald Igwebuike. (It’s Friday, and I wanted to say his name.)
by Eric J. Thompson on May 22, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
For some reason I have an Onterrio Smith jersey in the back of the closet somewhere, doesn’t even compare to how fun the Shiancoe jersey would be.
by BacksThePack on May 22, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
nice post
thanks for all the juicy tidbits!
i’d love to wear a favre viking jersey to packer game but i don’t know if i’d actually want to buy one….
by iseepurplepeople on May 22, 2009 9:48 AM CDT reply actions
I'd buy one but....
i would not wear it. It would just be a novelty item to add with the rest of my vikes collection.
I would burn one. /shrug
In AP I trust
Just say no to Favre.
by FarvaForTheVikings on May 22, 2009 10:56 AM CDT reply actions
Waste of money...
Because he’d be here one year, tops. Why spend $70+ dollars on jersey for a guy who will be 40? It’s like buying a jersey for a guy who signs a one year deal, or has one year left. Buy prime free agents, first round picks, or franchise players.
Maybe you all have money to blow on a one year novelty, but I sure as heck don’t.
Visit:
http://www.vikingvigil.com
Skol Vikings!
Woot Woot!
Totally Agree
Just look at all those Jets fans now with their Jets jerseys and Brett is a Jet shirts. What are they going to do with them now. IF THE VIKINGS attain Favre. What really would be the point. For me at least, would be to piss off all the die hard Packer fans. I will not be purchasing if such a jersey does come available.
BOOTY
Thats the jersey i’m buying my girl. Its quite fitting, as she has one hell of a booty.
SKOL
don't be surprised to hear
that Booty injures himself shortly before any announcement of grey beard heading toward the twin cities and end up on IR for a year.
by vikeincheeseland on May 22, 2009 12:32 PM CDT reply actions
Way to lighten up on Tavaris
You should all go out and buy a #7 jersey. I’ve said all along that TJack would win any in camp competition. Whoever is calling the plays needs to be a little (or-a-lot) more aggressive. This is the year for our receivers to step it up and get open. Brett, just stay home.
favre
Guess everybody’s avoiding such a name for a thread.
I’m a fan of favre, the man. He’s been through a bunch (ducking all the schlock you’re throwing my way) and I identify with him more than a little bit.
Part of me wants to see him play again, and part of me wants this annual query to just be over.
If he can find a way to play without pain, and maybe without surgery, which he seems to want to avoid since his seizure under anaesthetic (directly related to his abuse of painkillers) … ….
But if he plays for the purple and gold, there will always be the question if it’s spite.
I’m a fan, and I’d love to see him play another year. Yet I’m not too dense, and wonder if it’s a good idear.
I will accept whatever happens. If he chooses to play again, and a team chooses to have him play for them, I’ll probably be the happiest lass on the continent.
Would I buy a jersey? Couldn’t afford one at the height of his popularity at Green Bay. Didn’t do Jets. Won’t do anything forthcoming.
Yet, part of me wishes for another season to see the man play.
His bad decisions are legendary, overshadowing the good. I won’t dispute that.
I guess the problem is, what could he prep in one season or so to make the future followup work? He’s always cast reality expectations beyond the pale.
Holmgren: no, no, NO … oh, yeah, okay.
Part of me wants to see him play again. Part of me wants to see him continue digging post holes (which is one heck of a physical challenge in itself.)
Shrug. It’ll be what It’ll be.
My reason for owning a (blank) jersey
I live in Wisconsin now, and to own one JUST to hang on the wall would be great!!! The pathetic whining that I hear over hear, and the guy hasn’t even signed with Minny yet! LOL
Trust me folks, no matter WHAT any packer fan says, it’s IS killing them to have their “gun slinger” go to the enemy. After all the Superbowl jokes throughout the years, this would be the perfect payback!

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