Brett Favre, Fran Tarkenton, and Loyalty

I think he went way further than just “looking out for himself.”

Even if team loyalty means less nowadays, he still owed the team and the fans better than what he gave them.

There’s a difference between looking out for yourself and being selfish, and he went way past that line.

Waaa Waaa! Let’s see how long it takes you guys to discuss what Foreman had to say. It seems to me for every Fran, there are about 5 Foremen who think getting Favre makes sense for the Vikes. But the bias around here is starting to stink. Wake up, grow up, and realize it’s gonna happen.

but if St Francis of Bloomington says ‘Fuck Him’,

then, by God, Fuck Him.

But that’s just me.

First… Rather than re-post my comment from the last thread before this one, I’ll just reference it, and add this;

The Vikings (and fans) are the last people who should bitch about a lack of loyalty from great QBs who are on their last legs….

Archie Manning
Jim McMahon
Warren Moon
Randall Cunningham
Brad Johnson

All come immediately to mind… I’m starting to be surprised that the Vikes don’t try to talk Joe Montana or Roger Staubach into returning for One Last Year.

Oh, and then there’s the shoe on the other foot;

Where was the franchise loyalty to Daunte Culpepper? Or to M&M? Or to Sharper? Or to Birk? How about that Ferrotte guy? Oh, that’s right, the Vikes squeezed the last useable juice from him and he’s done, not even worth keeping as a backup, not when we have T-Jack warming up and the entire off-season to find a replacement.

Where did Alan Page spend his final years? Or John Randle? Or Cris Carter?!? We loves us some Chester Taylor, but hey, he’s on his last year, maybe it’s time to see if he can be traded off.

So if folks want to get a tingle up their legs by playing at being shocked by the deplorable lack of loyalty of a team for it’s players… or a player for it’s team…. go right a head and enjoy yourself. But it’s either very naive, or they’re forgetting that this is a business, not a past-time.

Thank You for your support—-on my “Bicep Brett” comments.
Just looking out for the one’s I Love!

the nfl has become just another business. in fran’s day it wasn’t uncommon for a starting player to play his whole career for one team. now the reverse is true, it’s rare that any player stays with one team for his whole career. loyalty to the team as an employer is totally gone and it should be. the employer has no loyalty to the player, why should the player have loyalty to the employer.

but loyalty to the team is a different deal. the team isn’t the employer. it isn’t the owner or the coach or the front office. the team is the fans and the other guys busting their butts day after day to win. the ones who have made the player look good, the ones who show up to the games or tune in on tv. we are all a part of the team. what favre did to the packers was to piss off the team.

the classy ‘team loyal’ thing to do would have been to un-retire and sit the bench and back up rogers. it would have pissed off the front office too but it wouldn’t have pissed off the team. i’m all for favre wanting to play again. heck i want to play too! he has the ability even at 40, i don’t so more power to him. but don’t bust your teamates and the fans who have supported you your entire career just so you can tweak the nose of some guy in a suit.

just to clarify, the packers front office did their fair share last year as well as favre, but they weren’t in the huddle in the fourth quarter with less than a minute to go and down buy 6. favre was and those guys where there for him then and those fans were still in the stadium cheer them on and not giving up.

i’d just think a person would have more respect for that sort of thing.

Fran Tarkenton ~ 69 ~ Fraud & Hypocrite
Go away Fran. Do you remember writing this when we all thought that other guy was going away?

Brett Favre has announced his retirement from the Green Bay Packers, and that’s a retirement announcement that nobody really wanted to hear, because we watched him have one of his best years last year.

You then wrote about him overcoming addiction, commenting:

But he changed his life and he became a great person, a great friend, a great father, a great husband, a great son…. Just everything you would like to have in a person regardless of his athletic appeal. And that is the thing that I admire about Brett Favre’s career more than anything else.

You finished with:

But in Brett Favre’s case, it’s really easy to say that here is a man that commands our respect for the changes that he made in his life that should inspire you and I, and people of all ages, that we don’t have to be like we are. We can be significantly better if we make up our minds to make the changes that we need to make.

And now you say:

“In this day and time, we have glorified the Brett Favre’s of the world so much, they think it’s about them. He goes to New York and bombs. He’s 39 years old. How would you like Ray Nitschke in his last year (playing for) the Vikings, or I retire, and go play for the Packers. I kind of hope it happens, so he can fail.”

You, sir, are a hypocrite. We already knew that you were a fraud. We want him to go away too but we don’t wish him failure. We’ll save that for you.

Slow down next time before you speak.