Trent Dilfer on Brett coming back...
I don't know if anyone else saw this on NFL Live today but Trent Dilfer addressed the rumors of Favre coming back to play for the Vikes. Apparently he was texting Favre earlier today and asked him if there was any truth to the rumor of him coming back. Favre gave him a "resounding no".
I don't know about you all but this helps put the issue to rest a little bit for me. It was the first time I think I've ever enjoyed listening to Dilfer.
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Just like how Trent Dilfer (Along with me, and many others) said there was “absolutely no way” Jay Cutler was going to get traded…….
V-I-K-I-N-G-S! Skol Vikings, Let's Go!!
by TheViking83 on May 4, 2009 3:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The man has a point.
Besides, Dilfer is just mad that the Vikes are not calling him to come out of retirement.
by Bjorno on May 4, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
10 out of the last 19 FanPosts...
have been about Favre. Reminds me of when the Cutler thing was going down in Chicago… WCG had eleventy-million posts about it. Hard to regulate, but at some point, does it have to stop?
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by Dane Noble on May 4, 2009 4:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I seriously hope so.
I hate it.
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by Manimal on May 4, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
by mjschaefer on May 4, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you don’t like it, you can always GeauxAway! Favre or not does not make the Cutler deal any better, the Bears overpaid! You just can’t stand the thought of the Vikings getting even better and they didn’t even have to give up 2 first rounders to get him!
by newmexvike on May 4, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a Vikings fan...
But GeauxBears was not trying to talk shit. He was simply commenting on the abundance of Favre stories, which there are. While the Bears did overpay… I wouldn’t exactly say Favre is better than Cutler. In his prime, definitely. But not now that he is 40
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 5, 2009 3:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Not much smack talk from GeauxBears. He usually makes well thought out comments. Rumor is, he is half-Viking fan, but doesn’t like admitting it. We won’t judge him. We will just accept him as he is..in Bear’s clothing.
As for Favre posts…..what else is there to talk about until Percy goes into action?
by Lofoten on May 5, 2009 6:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO.
The only purple I’ll ever wear will be of my LSU Tigers lof. And whoever is spreading a rumor that I’m a half Viking fan… NO WAY BROTHER! I love to watch AP run the football, but outside of that, I don’t think there is anything about Vikings football that I don’t loathe. Plus, Vikes fans are just turds. :)
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by Dane Noble on May 5, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...uh..well...
It takes one to know one!
Count it!
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by Manimal on May 5, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks
good to know you will never wearviking purple!
new york viking
by new york viking on May 5, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate to admit it, but I agree with a Bears fan.
This story is going to go on for the next four months, and I was sick of it three years ago when the Vikings weren’t even involved. I’ve already said that I will not write a single article about He Who Shall Not Be Named until something actually happens, which will be in July at the earliest if (God forbid) anything does. We’ve already beaten it to death, and next to nothing has actually happened.
But it’s the offseason; people are going to speculate. Even if the speculation is about my most hated player in any sport ever. Ugh.
by ericj69 on May 5, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm, I guess I don’t see a huge difference between creating and adding to. And if you look where people are leaving their comments, it seems we need MORE Favre subjects.
You know, as likely as it seems, it might be time to start warming up to the idea, just in case. I’ld hate to think you wouldn’t enjoy the superbowl this year.
I used to HATE Favre. Back in the days of Randle and Hovan, there was nothing I enjoyed more than watching Favre get put on his back. But, it’s hard to call him a Packer at this point. He has caused more stress on their fan base, I don’t know how you can’t love it.
by newmexvike on May 5, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We won’t make it to the Super Bowl with Brett Favre. I whole-heartedly believe that.
And he is definitely still a Packer. He will always be a Packer. MJ came back with the Wizards, and yet is he a Wizard? No. He’s a Bull. He always will be. And Favre will always be a Packer. And a diva. And a self-centered bastard. But I digress.
In AP I trust
by FarvaForTheVikings on May 5, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
However...
If #4 kills his former team in both of the regular season games & leads the Vikings to a legit Super Bowl Title…
Sports History would show, the idiot Packers let their superstar go who then “Told Them So” & exacted a glorious revenge against the career team that turned their back to him by trading him to the Jets. Favre would have the last words, as a Viking and history would remember that!
by solafide on May 5, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t want Favre to have a place in Vikings history, and he won’t lead us to a Super Bowl, legit or otherwise. Mark it down. It won’t happen.
In AP I trust
by FarvaForTheVikings on May 5, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you rather lose with Jackson & Rosenfels?
We’ll see if Chilly wants to risk his job on Favre.
by solafide on May 5, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly? Yes. I don’t believe Favre improves us that much. I’d rather go with Sage or Tjack.
In AP I trust
Brett Favre should go die somwhere
by FarvaForTheVikings on May 5, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, really.
Relax a little bit. Nothing negative in his statements at all.
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by Manimal on May 5, 2009 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just kidding. But I do believe he doesn’t want to hear about Favre for two reasons.
1. QB was the one thing you could point to as to why Chicago MIGHT win the Division.
2. The Vikes would get a better QB and WAY cheaper.
by newmexvike on May 5, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate them both...
But I’d take Cutler over Favre right now.
by ericj69 on May 5, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there is an opinion. Here’s mine. Cutler has yet to do anything besides create drama. Besides his arm, there is no reason to be excited about him. And if an arm were enough, jeff George would still be the starter in Minnesota.
Favre is a hall of famer. He may not be able to run and throw quite like he did in his hay-day, but he will make up for it with experience. He has way less risk and uncertainty. But most of all he will command respect. D-coordinaters will have to respect.
by newmexvike on May 5, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I'm sayin...
is that there is no denying that Favre has had a much better career than Cutler. Superbowls, MVPs, records, you name it. But the fact as it stands now is that Favre is 40, where as Cutler is 25(I think). Favre has maybe 1 more year out of him. Cutler is just entering his prime. If it was just for 1 season, I would take Favre over Cutler. But Bears got him for many many years, where as the Vikings would only get Favre for 1. That’s why I’d take Cutler over Favre
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 5, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll take Favre’s twilight over Cutler’s prime. Besides, Cutler has 2 years left on his contract. I don’t see the Bears paying him the kind of money he thinks he’s worth. Although, when he falls flat on his face this year, maybe his value will come down enough for those cheap a$$ Bears
by newmexvike on May 5, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree
But we can both agree that the Bears overpaid for Cuter!
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 5, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Cutler can win games for us,
then we didn’t overpay. Two #1s sounds like a lot, but we don’t exacylt have great success in the first round anyhow. Plus, besides winning games, Cutler should help in attracting FA wideouts… a problem over the last decade or so. Paid a bunch, yes… overpaid, we’ll see.
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by Dane Noble on May 5, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why draft at all with that logic?
I think $$$ will attract FA WRs more than Cutler, the Bears are cheap.
We’ll see….hahahha…when Cutler bolts in 2 years for real money and all you have left are empty pockets.
by newmexvike on May 5, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay..
1- I’m just saying our recent history at #1 hasn’t worked out all that well.
2- The Bears have been cheap in the past, with one exception… rewarding our own. The fact that we don’t overpay FAs, combined with the reputation of being where WRs go to die, both contribute to our lack of success at attracting good FA WRs. Now that Cutler is in town, we should have a little more success attracting them.
3- We are consistanly in good shape as far as the salary cap goes… we didn’t trade for Cutler if we weren’t gonna pay him when the time comes.
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by Dane Noble on May 5, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, I wasn't going to respond, considering that a few other people stepped in...
but then I thought, why not. To you newmexvike, Kiss My Arse. I will not go away… I like coming to DN, just like I enjoy many blogs, to read what’s going on in the world of football.
Favre or not does not make the Cutler deal any better, the Bears overpaid!
And you ending every single sentence with an exclaimation point does not make your comment any more intelligible. I am especially curious about the first part of that comment though… Favre or not does not make the Cutler deal any better… huh? Wth does that mean?
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by Dane Noble on May 5, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe...
He was saying by itself the Cutler deal cost the figurative arm & a leg. The logic is sketchy as to how it relates to whether the Vikings land Favre or not. So I really don’t know what that comment was suppose to be about.
But really man, I’m pretty sure you like coming to DN the best of all blogs, even your own Bear blog, because this is where all the action is. Looking at the amount of fan posts and comments the Bear & Packer blogs lack, they seem to be pretty boring. I’m glad you’re here GeauxBears, keep up the intelligent discussion.
by solafide on May 5, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hang on there buddy...
Looking at the amount of fan posts and comments the Bear & Packer blogs lack, they seem to be pretty boring
Not to be insulting here, but WCG has way more articles, posts, comments, and hits than do DN. I just like coming here for a different point of view…
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by Dane Noble on May 5, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My bad then...
i just saw the last fanpost was like from 3 days ago or something, the same was with the Packer blog, I may be mistaken.
You’re right though, probably hasn’t been too many non fan post info up here at DN, but there does seem to be a hella lot more comments and fan posting.
by solafide on May 5, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, look at WCGs front page articles...
We pretty much leave the FanPosts up to our members, and since the draft, like most of the SBN football blogs, the FPs have declined.
But, we will always, always have multiple articles on the front page every day… some are analysis, some are history, some are news, and some are commentary. Front page articles are our bread and butter…
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by Dane Noble on May 5, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess what I was trying to say was that it must hurt to see the Vikes get value with picking up Favre when the Bears paid too much to get Cutler!!! It’s like buying an Ipod and then the next week the price is cut in half!!! And everyone is bragging about how cheap they got their Ipod and the buyers remorse kicks in!!!
BTW – as much as I hate the Pack and Bears, I was really just kidding about GEAUXING away!!! It is interesting to read what you have to say!!! IT WAS JUST A JOKE, MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by newmexvike on May 5, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How can anyone honestly say the Bears overpaid?
As GeauxBears said earlier we may have paid a lot, but there’s no way to say we overpaid. Any GM in the league (with a few exceptions) who wouldn’t be willing to give up two #1’s and a barely serviceable starter (Orton) for a potential franchise QB doesn’t deserve to have that job title. Granted no one knows how well Cutler will do next year or for the rest of his career, the fact of the matter is that we made a bold move, and considering our history of ineptitude since Sid Luckman it was a small price to pay to potentially shore up the QB position for the next 10-12 years (because even though the Bears have been cheap in the past, there’s absolutely no way you let Cutler go at the end of his contract unless he stinks up the joint). So say what you will about the price we paid, it all comes across with a hint of jealousy that the Vikings couldn’t put together a better package and you’re stuck with T-Jax and Rosenfels instead. And NOBODY (at least no one sane) would rather have Favre over Cutler at this stage of their careers.
And in case you were wondering, I’m another WCG’er following in the footsteps of GeauxBears and windycity72, just like to know what’s going on around the league :)
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by gridiron_assassin on May 5, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re right, “WE” didn’t overpay, the Bears did. You may be a Bear fan, but you’re not on their payroll.
>>"Any GM in the league (with a few exceptions) who wouldn’t be willing to give up two >>#1’s and a barely serviceable starter (Orton) for a potential franchise QB doesn’t >>deserve to have that job title."
uhh, I can think of 31 GMs. It’s not like the Bears beat anyone to the punch, anyone could have pulled the trigger on that deal. Potential is the key word.
Go back and read my posts, I never liked Cutler, even when he was still a Bronco. And Yes, I would take Sage or Favre over Cutler and all the baggage that goes with that punk.
by newmexvike on May 5, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
It’s not like the Bears beat anyone to the punch, anyone could have pulled the trigger on that deal.
Wrong. Do your homework.
And Yes, I would take Sage or Favre over Cutler
I lol’d.
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by Dane Noble on May 5, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Homework? Try a calander. Cutler was crying to get out for several weeks. Anyone who wanted him bad enough, had plenty-o-time to put together an offer. You’re funny.
by newmexvike on May 5, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. Homework.
I am very familiar with the timeline, and wrote an article over on wcg showing it. It’s fine to have your opinions, but you should be well-informed before making statements about how we didn’t beat anyone to the punch, and how anyone could have grabbed Cutler too. Several teams were in the picture for a while…
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by Dane Noble on May 5, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well then best of luck
with a career backup (Rosenfels) and a guy who couldn’t take over the starting job in a very weak competition (Jackson). Call me crazy but I’d take Cutler over those two without thinking once, let alone twice.
Best of luck to you and your misguided and uninformed opinions good sir.
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by gridiron_assassin on May 5, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would take Cutler over Sage or Favre right now. But not at the expense of 2 1st rounders and a 3rd. Way too much IMO. And don’t forget, the Vikings were the original team to pursue Cutler. They were interested in getting him before he was on the trading block, but Childress saw something there he didn’t like, and pulled the deal. I’m not saying Childress is a QB guru, but it’s not like the Bears were the first ones to grab him. Vikings looked at him and didn’t like what they saw. Bears basically got the Viking’s leftovers! LMAO
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 5, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously?
Vikings looked at him and didn’t like what they saw. Bears basically got the Viking’s leftovers!
Like I said to newmexvike, do your homework. The other teams the Broncos talked seriously with (serious enought to consider offers) did not include the Vikes.
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by Dane Noble on May 5, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read it was the Vikes, Lions and Bucs that were contemplating offers for Cutler pre-Cassel trade. And Bucs, ’Skins, and Bears post-Cassel.
by Frost on May 5, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, now some sensibility...
The other significant suitors for Cutler were the Skins and the Bucs (and by significant I mean who the Broncos seriously listened to offers from).
But, as the Broncs have stated, once the Bears threw in Orton, everyone else disappeared in the eyes of the Broncos. I have read that a lot of Redskins fans thought they were so close to getting Cutler, but in actuality, they weren’t even close. No one other than the Bears ever got close.
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by Dane Noble on May 5, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What my point is...
is that the Vikings were talking about a 3 team trade where Cutler would end up in MN, Cassel to the Broncos. Vikings pulled the offer off the table, and the Patriots then ended up trading Cassel to KC.
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 5, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, no, no.
And even if that had been the case, who would have gone to the Patriots?
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by Dane Noble on May 5, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea who would've gone to NE
But here is a link:
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/25/report-vikings-pulled-out-of-cutler-talks-last-month/
That is just one I could find off the top of my head. I know PFT is not the most reliable source, but there were many others saying the same thing, I just don’t want to take the time to find them. LOL
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 5, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody would have gone to the Patriots. They probably didn’t want another QB. Hence the trading of Cassel. They have Brady, and they’re happy. Probably would’ve been estatic with whatever picks were sent their way and taking that 16 Mil cap hit off their books.
by Frost on May 5, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So other than those 3 teams, no one knew Cutler was on the block? Stupid logic. Are you assuming EVERY team wanted Cutler? Boy are you in for a wake-up call. Any team could have put up an offer, some chose not to run. There was plenty of time for any team to make a deal, and if you’re dumb enough to give away the farm, then Denver would have entertained it. jees!
by newmexvike on May 5, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We have a couple of members like you over at WCG.
So other than those 3 teams, no one knew Cutler was on the block? Stupid logic.
I never said that, nor inferred it. Not my logic.
Are you assuming EVERY team wanted Cutler? Boy are you in for a wake-up call.
Never said that either. Where’s my wake-up call?
There was plenty of time for any team to make a deal, and if you’re dumb enough to give away the farm, then Denver would have entertained it. jees!
Other teams did make offers. And we made the best one. As I stated previously, we haven’t had the best of luck with first round picks, so the fact that we used them on a franchise QB (which we haven’t had in decades) is subjective. If Cutler bombs, then yes, we’ll be screwed. If he wins us playoff games, and helps rebuild this team, then we got our money’s worth. Try not to be so tangential in your arguments.
But, I’ll let you have the last word… this argument is silly, and there are more interesting things going on than what didn’t happen in the Cutler situation.
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by Dane Noble on May 5, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this argument is pointless, in September the Vikings will see if Harvin was worth the character risk, and the Bears will see if Cutler was worth the picks.
This fan post is getting way too darn long
by solafide on May 5, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Try the "z" button after the page has fully loaded
to find the new comments. :)
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by Dane Noble on May 5, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thx man for makin' my life easier
i like Bear fans
by solafide on May 5, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It all depends on what those first round picks end up being, and how Orton does. If Orton makes a good career in Denver, and Ayers or, more likely, Maclin (since I doubt the Bears would have let him by if they had the 18th pick) end up being perennial pro-bowlers, then it’s pretty obvious the Bears overpayed.
Personally, I feel the Bears overpayed a bit for a guy who played in a system opposite their’s. Cutler isn’t going to have the same quality recievers in Chicago. The offense isn’t built around him. He’s not going to have 600 pass attempts next year either, which is going to lower his numbers. He’s also playing more competitive teams than the Raiders and Chiefs were, though the Lions aren’t much better. But we’ll have to wait and see.
by Frost on May 5, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did the Bears over-pay?
You summed it up in one sentence… which is the only sensible answer…
But we’ll have to wait and see.
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by Dane Noble on May 5, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree somewhat...
Cutler isn’t going to have the same quality recievers in Chicago.
Really? Who was Brandon Marshall? A third round pick that got lucky to have a QB to help him maximize his talents. Who is Eddie Royal? He was a second round pick that fell into the same situation. We’ll see how they do with Orton at the helm, my guess is that they fall back into mediocrity.
It all depends on what those first round picks end up beingDenver traded their first round pick next year in order to move into the second round and pick Alphonso Smith (I think), so that basically negates them having our pick next year because chances are it’ll be lower than what their original pick would have been. Here is a good link that summarized the result of the trade pretty well
http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2009/4/28/857339/cutler-and-a-trade-up-trade
But as both you and GB stated, we’ll have to wait and see.
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by gridiron_assassin on May 5, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are out of yout mind to think Denver’s WR had nothing to do with it. Those guys rose to the top of the depth chart. But there were other WR’s with proven backgrounds that did not.
Thanks for linking us to a Bears site to get a rundown of the “big trade”. Nothing like an impartial look at how fair a trade is…
by newmexvike on May 5, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Although I am officially done participating in this,
I do have to pop up and tell you the article he linked was written by a writer over at Mocking the Draft.
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by Dane Noble on May 5, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess we'll see about their receivers next year...
And like GB said, next time check out the link thoroughly before you stick your foot in your mouth.
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by gridiron_assassin on May 5, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know about them falling into mediocraty. I mean, honestly, Orton wasn’t a bad QB. He didn’t lead the league in TDs or yards, but I’m pretty sure he was one of the more effecient QBs in terms of ball control and completion %. Better WRs will only help him out, I’m sure.
You’re right about them trading your first rounder next year, but it’s placement is going to be based on CHI’s record, not DEN’s. So it would be exactly where you’d have picked if it was your own.
Basically, I see the success/failure of this trade depending upon the success of Ayers, Smith, and whomever is picked with the Bear’s first rounder next year. Sort of like the Tarkenton to the Giants trade of the past where we wound up drafting 2 HoFers with the picks we got for Tarkenton, not to mention getting him back.
by Frost on May 5, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Quantum Leap Lost Theory of Favretization
Trent Dilfer did something scientific and even almost journalistic: Rather than attempt to spin some gold tale out of flax and pin it on the donkey because of the post-draft news vacuum, he actually took the straightforward road and asked the man himself what it is that Brett Favre is thinking. No Sherlock Holmes, no Elvis sightings, and no mysterious aircraft were involved. Those who believe in the messiah theory of football will always clamor for an ancient hero, who must arise to save the multitude, but they should take up golf and join a Tiger watching club. Football is a team sport. Herschel didn’t save the Vikings, and an elixir of Favre won’t magically transform them either. Besides, if I had such cravings, I’d rather go over to the dark side. Go on an exciting Michael Vick hunt! Maybe my dog will bite me, but hey, think how the Packer faithful might recoil in horror if the Vikings recruited a convict to thwart them. Start false rumors that Vick plans to dope B. J. Raji! Makes me want to go on Amazon and bid for a Darth Vadar mask.
by Elgar on May 4, 2009 4:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think you’ll get a lot closer to the truth spinning gold than asking Favre in May what he’s going to do. I take the whole Dilfer incident as posturing.
Ok, let’s back up. You’re Brett Favre (just pretend). It’s May and you know rookies are going to camp and any day now the vets will have to start showing up as well. You’ve done this for 20 years. There is nothing being discussed out on that field that you don’t already know. But there will be a lot of standing around while other guys get up to speed. You want to come back, but only for the part you really need, that probably starts a week before training camp because you already know the whole playbook and you’ve hired a personal trainer.
Now some bald dude from ESPN has the ignorance to text you asking if you’re going to play this year. Let’s see, here are your options:
1. say, “hell yeah”. Now you have to show up for every little OTA or you’ll get a bad rap for not being there for your team. Even though you really don’t need to be there yet.
2. say, “maybe”. Now for the next two months you’ll have 200 reporters camped out around your town. Driving everyone nuts looking for answers.
OOORRRRR
3. say, “NO”. Hoping this doesn’t give anyone reason to bother you during your time off so you can lay low for the nest 2 months.
Come on dude, do you really think Favre can say “yes” and expect to mow his lawn for the next 2 months? There is already WAY too much attention on this whole thing. If he even hints he’s thinking about coming back, vacation over.
I called this one when the Jets first made the trade and I’ll be damned if the whole thing isn’t playing out. At this point, I’ll be shocked if it doesn’t go down. Again, pretend you’re Brett, wouldn’t you wanna play for this Viking team?
by newmexvike on May 4, 2009 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t he say the same thing about rumors last year?
by Frost on May 4, 2009 10:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Cat is still in the bag...
until Childress & Wilf explicitly say they don’t want Favre!
by solafide on May 4, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly...
Favre still may wanna play, & the Vikes have good backups if Favre sucks. Nothing to lose except a few million. It’s Favre’s choice to see if he can go out on top, we’ll find out in a few months.
by solafide on May 4, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bottom line...
is that this sick situation will play out in ……oh…..another three or four months!! I dont know if I can deal with Fav’ray, all day, all night, for another 1/2 year. Its too bad our team is sucked in to this situation, whether they like it or not. Bad press….just baaaaad press. hate it. sick of it.
shrug
by Viking64 on May 5, 2009 7:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares about bad press? It’s not like the media has a lot of credibility these days, and since when did ANYONE care about what Trent Dilfer has to say? Besides, as Lofoten says, not like we have much else to yap about :)
by DCPurple on May 5, 2009 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Harvin wasn’t there in rookie-camp so we can’t exactly talk about how spectacular or terrible he looked. It’s pretty much going to be Favre talk non-stop until we at least get to mini-camp. And then it will subside for a week.
by Frost on May 5, 2009 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's just a curious thought I've been having for a couple of years now...
It is completely understandable if an athelete never wants to quit playing. I played baseball from the time I could walk, all the way through college. And like I heard John Madden say one time, once you mentally and physically quit playing, quit training, quit the routines… your body will still have an alrm clock that goes off when it is time to lace the cleats back up again. It’s like an addiction, and it was strong enought to pull Favre back in last year (not a pot-shot, just the only analogy I came up with).
That being said, some atheletes, especially those who have never done anything other than play, will never want to stop. But what about the other side of the equation? Favre for what seems like 30 years was the man in Green Bay, and was public enemy #1 in the NFC Central and North. So, why would a team that was such a big rival for so many years ever consider bringing him in for just 1 season? Even if it gave them a shot at a championship, why? Would that be real?
I’m all for filling needs, and getting as many weopans as a team can to try and succeed, but this idea of Favre coming to Minny is a little much for me to wrap my head around. I understand the desire of a team to win championships, but at what cost? Signing Favre to me would be like selling your soul to the devil for one wild night with a hot girl. It’s like you’d be playing with someone else’s QB. And not just someone else’s QB, but a rival’s QB. I don’t know.
Maybe he can just fight the urge and stay retired. Maybe move to Australia and take up hunting or something. That way, we would stop asking whether Favre will come back… or would we?
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by Dane Noble on May 5, 2009 10:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you...
I have no desire to see that asshat in the Purple and Gold. I hope he goes away forever. Stays in Mississippi with his family, sits on the porch, drinks beer, watches the grass grow, and leaves the Vikings, and the NFL for that matter, the hell alone.
I still don’t understand how everyone thinks Favre is an upgrade over Tarvaris or Sage; sure, they’re not perfect, but Favre was anything but. Who really wants an almost 40 year old QB with a penchant for throwing interceptions who needs surgery on the arm he uses to throw?
Who, I ask you, who?
I have no idea. Definitely not this guy.
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by Manimal on May 5, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tampa Bay could always use an extra QB...
:)
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by Dane Noble on May 5, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Count me in too. I don’t ever want to see him don the Purple and Gold.
In AP I trust
by FarvaForTheVikings on May 5, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't mind seeing him a Vike.
Between his INTs and AP’s fumbles, that would be a lot of turnovers. Then again, Sage and AP might have a lot between the two of them too…
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by Dane Noble on May 5, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t realize it was you posting at first. Then I read the second part and laughed.
You see Vikings fans? The Bears want us to have Favre. WE SHOULD DO THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT BEARS FANS WANT!
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by FarvaForTheVikings on May 5, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the jig is up...
caught us red handed.
by windycity72 on May 5, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a double reverse to Harvin for a touchdown??
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by TheViking83 on May 5, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the crowd goes wild!
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by FarvaForTheVikings on May 5, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree 10,000% with GeauxBears
Everything you said is exactly what I’ve been saying around here since LAST offseason. I also can not believe that there are people who would willingly accept Favre in purple just for the CHANCE (In my mind, there is no way Brett would lead the Vikes to the championship) at a title.
I’d rather go 0-16 than see that guy in horns.
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by TheViking83 on May 5, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh oh...
vikes and bear fans in one accord??? easy fellas, before you put a rip in the space/time continuum…
by windycity72 on May 5, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we’re fine, unless Packer fans start agreeing with us. Then we’re definitely screwed.
In AP I trust
by FarvaForTheVikings on May 5, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
vikes and bears fans
can always come to an agreeance when it comes to hating on a Packer icon.
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by TheViking83 on May 5, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Packer ICON.
No matter what he does, Brett Favre will always be remembered as quarterback of the Green Bay Packers. No way he can get out of that. His messy “divorce,” too, but he’ll always be an icon in Green Bay.
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by Manimal on May 5, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok, I’ll give you that. But the current management in GB doesn’t give Favre warm fuzzies about his past either.
by newmexvike on May 5, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sounds like you REALLY don’t want Favre to come to Minnesota. Wonder why?
by newmexvike on May 5, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why Favre? Why the One Night Stand?
Childress is pretty much on the chopping block. He either goes to playoffs and wins at least once, or he’s likely done (from a fans perspective, Wilf may have a man-crush on him).
Last year the Vikings relied on Jackson & Frerotte to “game manage” us to a playoff victory & we fell short. Wilf may want Favre to sell tickets, as the barely selling out of the Vikings’ playoff game showed the lack of fan fanaticism. Chilly may want Favre to possibly bring his experience & collection of skills (minus the INT proclivity) to help the Vikes win that 1st playoff game since the Randy Moss moon job at Lambeau.
Who knows if Favre wants to play, if he does, Bevell his good friend might help Chilly reel him in. Who says Favre can’t play for more than 1 year with this talented Vikings team? If he heals up & doesn’t get hit too much, remember Favre would be handing off the Adrian Peterson & dumping & dinking to Percy Harvin, Favre could play for 2 years.. however I know that is an outlandish statement.
by solafide on May 5, 2009 11:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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