Favregeddon Has Officially Been Triggered
by Gonzo on May 5, 2009 8:00 PM CDT
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I put it off for as long as I could. I didn't want to address it. I didn't want to think about it. But, it doesn't appear as though I can do that any more.
As andersklassen has pointed out, this afternoon. . .Brad Childress triggered Favregeddon.
Yes, Childress and Brett Favre will be sitting down together at some point in the near future to discuss the possibility of the future Hall of Famer playing a season in Minnesota.
Honestly, it's tough for me to verbalize what's going through my mind as a 25-year Viking fan right now. Those of you that have followed this site since it's started know that you can count all the complimentary things that I've had to say about Brett Favre on one hand. Or, more accurately, on one finger. . .which finger you use is up to you, but you can probably guess which one I prefer.
However, I've also acquiesed to the fact that if Zygi Wilf and Rick Spielman and Brad Childress want to bring Favre here and think that he can improve the team in some way. . .then there really isn't a damn thing that I can do about it. I'm not saying I'd like it, and I'm not saying I'm for it right now. . .largely because, as I said, I'm not sure if I'm for it right now or not.
Over the next couple of days, I'll be taking a look at what this could mean for the Vikings, both on and off the football field. In either case. . .
So much for a nice, quiet off-season, huh?
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Putting emotion aside
And I get that is easier said than done, I think it makes the football team better.
That said, I’d have a hard time warming up to Terrell Owens.
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by MilCardFan on May 5, 2009 8:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not convinced this is a good idea except
If (and I believe this to be an incredible long shot) Favre comes into the offseason program and gets his stamina/endurance up so he can last an entire season, and if he manages to stay healthy the entire year, he could still have something in the tank for the Vikings.
But the thing no one is talking about, and the one reason I would be on board for this, is if Favre wins a Super Bowl with the Vikings, retires a Viking and then…wait for it…enters the Hall of Fame as a Viking just to spite the Packers for snubbing him. It’s unlikely I know but we don’t know how big of a grudge Favre is carrying towards Thompson and the Packers. Favre is undoubtedly a Diva and that is exactly the kind of thing a Diva would do. I would have to change my pants a couple times if that happened.
by Cobra312004 on May 6, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't enter the NFL Hall of Fame
as a Packer, Viking, etc, like you do in baseball. You just enter the Hall of Fame.
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by MilCardFan on May 6, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Repent Now...
Or you may suffer something stolen from and old, mutant VW: Favrefegnugen.
Yes, the end is near.
Meanwhile, somewhere in an underground bunker:
Chilly: The last film study shows you can’t throw the ball as far as I can.
Brett: Do the Vikings have a medical plan that covers bionic surgery?
Chilly: I’m not a doctor or an accountant, and I don’t have Lee Majors’ cell number. Let’s keep the conversation on football.
Brett: Okay, I hate Ted Thompson.
Chilly: You and ten million others. I’m looking for a quarterback, not the Terminator.
Brett: But I heard you can’t get a new stadium, and the Vikes are moving to California.
Chilly: I’m not in the real estate business, either. Let’s just talk football.
Brett: How about if I tryout left-handed?
Chilly: Will you play for free?
Brett: Sure, I hate Ted.
Chilly: Will you give J. D. forty million in order to wear #4?
Brett: No.
Chilly: Will you wear another number instead?
Brett: Could I get my old number, ten?
Chilly: No, that’s retired. It belongs to Tarkenton.
Brett: Crap. I just wouldn’t be me. I don’t think this is gonna work.
Chilly: Thanks for stopping by. Our having this conversation has started so many new rumors, we’ve probably at a minimum saved print journalism for yet another decade.
Brett: No problem. Being from Minnesota, you probably know what Edina stands for. Can we do this again next year?
by Elgar on May 5, 2009 8:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Only one flaw
Favre IS left-handed, I’m pretty sure.
by Frost on May 5, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just don’t understand how people don’t think Favre is better for this football team than Sage or T-Jack. Where are we going to go with either of those two? First round of the playoffs max. Favre, even with a diminished skill set, makes us a Super Bowl contender, no two ways about it. I hated him as much as anyone when he was a Packer, but this team has to do what it takes to win, and get the best quarterback for this team. There is no way Favre doesn’t improve this team over what we have at the position now. I’m not saying we will win the Super Bowl because Favre comes here. I am saying we have a real shot if he does. And we have less than a 1% shot of that happening with Sage or Tavaris manning the position.
by jjstraka on May 5, 2009 8:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Remember
If Favre signs up he’ll still end up playing under Brad “Tahilover56” Childress.
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 5, 2009 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's just not true
there aren’t 56 Tahi lovers.
by Frost on May 6, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope... There's 2
Childress and his momma. Probably in that order too!
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 6, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bring it on.
I completely agree with jjstraka. I hated Favre in green and gold, and when the reports surfaced last offseason, I didn’t think I could get used to Favre in Purple. Now, however, I feel like it’s a match made in heaven. We are a QB away from being legit contenders. Brett is not the man he was 12 years ago, let alone 2 years ago, but he is still an improvement at the position. People forget about week12 of last year, when Brett was gunslinging his way to becoming the savior of the Jets’ franchise and the favorite to be the starting QB for the AFC pro-bowl squad. Then he hurt his right arm and was bad the rest of the way. If Chilly can convince Favre to reign it in a little, and not take all of those risks, and not play hurt, he will improve this team immensely.
Our defense is not getting any younger and they were able to carry a mediocre offense to a lot of late season wins. Imagine what the team could do with a good offense! We have the running game to open up the filed for the QB. We have a good line and some serious weapons on offense. We need a QB who can take advantage of all of that and score some points. We need to win now and even though TJack showed some promise late last year, neither him nor Sage are going to win a superbowl. Why not bring in a guy who has won a lot of playoff games and see what happens. At worse he will teach our young guys, sell some tickets and hopefully get the Vikes a new stadium. What do we have to loose?
by OregonVike on May 6, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
I am concerned about the biceps injury, but after that it is purely about putting the best team on the field as possible, and that probably means Favre.
In addition to the points you’d made, there will be NO EXCUSES for Chilly and Bevell if they do not pull out all the stops on their KAO with Favre under center!
If the Vikings can’t muster top 10 rankings in some major passing stats with Favre, BB, Harvin, and AP, then it will be time to flush Bevell, and maybe Chilly, too, if he’s not on board with a new OC and a new system.
by KC Viking on May 6, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno about top 10. That seems a bit high for a run-first team. Top half, sure, but not top 10. That’s asking a bit much I think. Especially with our WRs. They’re decent, but we don’t have a gamebreaker yet.
by Frost on May 6, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Top 10 passing categories
I don’t mean total yards necessarily, although any team clearly needs to be able to pass in the playoffs (The Eagles, for instance, were only 12th in NY/A, but ranked in the top 10 in passing yards and TDs). I mean things like net yards per pass attempt, QB rating, completion , and lowest INT. The Vikings were 11th in total passing TDs last year, but 18th in NY/A, 3rd highest INT%, and only 20somethingth in passer rating and others.
With the addition of Harvin and an upgrade at QB (Sage or Favre or TJ 4.0), it’s time to pull out all the stops on the KAO, which wasn’t pitched to ownership as a run-first offense when they hired Childress.
by KC Viking on May 6, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
11th inTD passes?
Didn’t we only have a total of 20? That seems pretty low to be 11th in the league. I’m not questioning your stats. Just kinda amazed
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 6, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
22 Passing TDs. Which does seem like it’d be a bit lower than 11th, but meh. Now that I see what you’re saying, KC, I agree and give it a +1
by Frost on May 6, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a tie
The New York Bretts also threw 22. 20 (Bears, Dolphins) would have been exactly average.
I was surprised to see that, too. It was the INTs and completion% and NY/A that hurt the Vikes’ rating so much. The average team completed 61% of their passes while the Vikings completed nearly 2% less…while dinking and dunking, no less. That’s my #1 beef with the KAO. I would expect that a bunch of passes traveling 1-5 yards in the air would be completed 65-70% of the time, and the chart featured in this article confirmed that belief (while raising questions about Favre coming here, too). I wish I could see Gus’s and TJ’s stats compared to those.
by KC Viking on May 6, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh man....
I don’t know whether to cry or shout out for joy. I’ve been a Vikings fan for almost 40 years now and I have to say this is the first time I don’t know what I want. I thought it was a good idea to let Fran Tarkenton go. I thought trading all those draft picks for Herschel Walker would bring us a title, I thought Les Steckel was a good choice for head coach, and I thought the Red McCombs era was going to make us the cream of the crop in the NFL. So, obviously, I’m an optimistic Vikings fan. But I just don’t know how I feel about Brett Favre becoming a Viking. Good or bad, I don’t think the end result will sit well with me. If he flops, we’re right back where we started. If he wins us a Super Bowl, it will be tainted by the fact that we only won because an ex-Packer took us there. I don’t think either one of those scenarios will help me sleep better at night.
by HiWayRobry on May 5, 2009 8:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hurry up and make up your mind!
That way we’ll know the opposite is what we can expect to happen, lol!
by DCPurple on May 6, 2009 6:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Favre does sign w/ the Vikes...
… can any of you Favre haters & Favre lovers imagine the 2 regular season games against the Packers? It would be…
…Epic times infinity! Honestly Favre is not the answer: he’s the half-court shot during the final seconds of the forth quarter, and you know the shot might fall (SB win), yet it’s unlikely.
I really want Favre to be a Vike so that I & literally the rest of the Nation can watch #4 destroy his former team. The Hype of those 2 regular season games would be unprecedented & I want to witness it, if you don’t you’re crazy!
by solafide on May 5, 2009 8:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
How is signing a hall of fame quarterback who can still play a decent game and would immediately take the 8th man out of the box, opening up lanes Peterson hasn’t even seen up till this point just by being on the field taking snaps the same as a hail mary or half court shot? The only thing this team needs is a decent quarterback, and even at this point, Favre is much more than that.
by jjstraka on May 5, 2009 8:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I meant...
winning the SB is a half court shot, with anyone except a proven franchise QB (aka Manning, Brady, Roethlisberger). I don’t deny the fact that opposing defenses would respect an old Favre & likely not stack the box against AP.
by solafide on May 5, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even if it opens up the box, lets not forget that Adrian isn’t super man. Thomas Jones turned in a damn good season for the Jets and Favre still managed to throw 22 interceptions. There is a big misconception that a stout running game ensures victory.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
by mjschaefer on May 6, 2009 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thomas Jones turned in a damn good season because teams were more worried about Favre. How long had he been in NY before Favre? 2 years? I don’t think he ever broke the 1000 yard mark until last season with the Jets. Yes, Favre threw 22 interceptions. Gus Frerotte threw nearly as much. He probably would have tied with Favre, if not surpassed him, if he hadn’t gotten hurt and Jackson shoved in. And Frerotte still took us a to an 8-3 record.
I see no issue with giving Jackson an extra season to mature, or Rosenfels an extra season to learn the playbook. Or a season to see just how well Childress can do with his balls to the wall. Favre can make all the throws, he can make any play Childress has drawn up in his elusive playbook. We’ll get to see how the team does with it opened.
by Frost on May 6, 2009 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
-1
V-I-K-I-N-G-S! Skol Vikings, Let's Go!!
by TheViking83 on May 6, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh Frost......
sorry man, but I gotta throw down some numbers on ya.
Thomas Jones was only there 1 year before Favre.
And he ran for 1,119 yards. Only 200 less than this past season. And he’s had four 1,000 yard seasons in a row dating back to his time with Chicago.
So attributing his success to “all of the attention” Favre gets makes… well… no sense. Sorry.
V-I-K-I-N-G-S! Skol Vikings, Let's Go!!
by TheViking83 on May 6, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I was mistaken on Jones. I thought he only had 800 yards or something like that the season before last. He did break 1000 I guess. But only had 1 TD. This season he had 13 TDs. Favre-effect?!
by Frost on May 6, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I won’t watch football if this happens. I’ll put all of my Vikings stuff in a box in the attic until this cancer is gone, and won’t acknowledge a championship if he wins one (which he won’t, because he’s old and has no judgment at all)
What up?
by snakethejake on May 5, 2009 9:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
C'mon man for real...
I have no respect for fans that will abandon the Vikings if Favre actually does start at QB. Why don’t you just watch the games cussing Favre out, hoping he tears another biceps. But to walk away because of Favre shows you don’t love the real other Vikings who play their hearts out for you! I love Adrian Peterson & the Vikings more than Favre even if he does play for us, so I’m gonna be a fan till the day I die!
… if Favre wants to come play for the Vikes, he hates the Packers just as much as you do. You have more in common with Favre than you think. You can’t abandon your team because of one player that may help the team win, even though he is the anti-Christ!
by solafide on May 5, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
VIKES!!
farv will do great for the team,,,,,,,enterceptions,,,heck with peterson near,,i dont think there be too manyy!!!
by lepkhan((VIKES))) on May 5, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
really
so what if TJack gets the starting nod and goes 9 TD 16 INTS and we end up 7 and 9? Then you’ll be complaining about Childress’ lack of judgement and how he needs to be fired….for fans like you its a loose loose situation, either way….
by iowa_cyclone on May 5, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah my hate for farve outweighs my hate for the pack, and no i won’t complain about childress’ “poor” coaching, because i understand that few coaches start out golden.. also, respect me or not, that’s not why i’m a fan of the vikings right now, i’m a fan because that’s how i was raised. And as long as i can remember i’ve hated brett farve and everything, everything he does, says, and how he plays. Even if we do sign him and he tears a tricep, i see it as my team selling out.. that’s just how i see it, we’re getting in the middle of his personal gripe with a team we just happen to hate and he’s using us to get even… I can’t go for the Minnesota Bretkings, sorry if i see it differently than everyone else.
What up?
by snakethejake on May 5, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's all good
You really should watch the games though & root for the Vikings except #4. Get a voodoo doll of Favre and poke it in the biceps during the games.
by solafide on May 5, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well hopefully #4 will be booty then, i will still love me some booty :)
What up?
by snakethejake on May 5, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, then what difference would it make? wouldn’t it save me the trouble of making a brett fakre voo doo doll if we just don’t sign him all together? and yes, he fakes his injuries to protect his reputation/stats.
What up?
by snakethejake on May 6, 2009 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
There will be fan outrage if the Vikings’ starting QB plays poorly, and rightfully so. This will be year 4 of Chilly’s tenure, and the QB problem reasonably could have been solved a year or two ago. After not finding an above average QB from the number of free agent QBs that have been available in that time + the number of QBs available in the draft in that time + TJ + Sage + (all of the QBs who have come and gone) + Favre, then his time is up. This isn’t a new one-time decision, but a string of poor decisions and indecision under his watch which has led the Vikes to this point.
Even if Favre comes for 1 year, it will be interesting to see who Chilly turns to after that (assuming he keeps his job). TJ will have had 4 years learning the system by then, so he’ll be as ready as he’ll ever be. That’s 90% true now, too. If TJ falters either year, then it will mean that Chilly picked a bad one and pretty much put all of the Vikings’ proverbial eggs in that basket. Sage will have the excuse of not enough time spent learning the system this year. JDB has had a year to learn, but he can’t be very good by Chilly’s estimation or else there would have been no need to acquire Sage (and perhaps Favre, too) or to keep JDB down, 3rd or 4th on the depth chart. If Chilly is given as many years with Sage and JDB as he had to develop TJ, then this could go on for 3-4 more years with nothing coming of it aside from desperate attempts to bring old formerly great QBs out of retirement to play for the Vikings.
Maybe Chilly would be an OK coach if he inherited a top-5 pick like Donovan McNabb and a top defense, a great running back, and an ownership willing to open the checkbook for the missing pieces again, but shouldn’t most coaches manage to do well with all of that?
by KC Viking on May 6, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
very well said KC
I think a lot of people have not even thought about what this would mean to our team a year from now.
V-I-K-I-N-G-S! Skol Vikings, Let's Go!!
by TheViking83 on May 6, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can I have your AP jersey?
Screw it, I’m buyin’ a Favre jersey!!!
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by MilCardFan on May 5, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh God
Now THAT would be hilarious to wear to the GB vs MN games.
by Frost on May 5, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OOHHH HHHEEEECKKKK YAAA
ID SUPPORT HIS JERSEY WITH VIKES PRIDE,,,KINDA LIKE SAYYN HAHA PACKERS -EVERYTIME I WEAR IT,,,,I HOPE HE DOES COME TO MY TEAM..JUST TO RUBB IT IN THEIR FACES,,,AGAIN ,,HA HA!! :}
IF U DO THIS CHILLY.. I TAKE EVERYTHNG BACK I THOUGHT ABOUT YA,,… A.P,BERRIAN,PERCY,RICE,FARVE,,,,,OOOWWWEEE,,,,,,,,,,AND DEFF CANT FORGET THE AWSUM DEFENSE WE HAVE!!!!! CANT LEAV THEM OUT,,,!!!!!!! NFC CHAMPS,,MAYBE MORE!!!
HOPEFULL
by lepkhan((VIKES))) on May 5, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, that was an annoying comment : )
This is the excitement Sugar Daddy Wilf must be tempted to tap into to help sell tickets & possibly get a new stadium deal. Favre is looking like the shorterm answer to longterm Viking ticket & stadium problems.
Would I take Favre over a move to L.A. …….. hella yeah
by solafide on May 5, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Busting a gut laughing
the CAPS brother seeks revenge on all who ridiculed him.
by CitrusFLViking on May 6, 2009 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just getting ready to reply with that EXACT same comment Frost
good thing I read down a little bit first, haha!!
V-I-K-I-N-G-S! Skol Vikings, Let's Go!!
by TheViking83 on May 6, 2009 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You just gave me the worst mental image. I would tear out my eyes and burn it.
In AP I trust
by FarvaForTheVikings on May 5, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would Rock a Favre Viking Jersey...
… the oxymoron of Favre being a Viking is priceless!
by solafide on May 5, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thought makes my spine crawl.
In AP I trust
Brett Favre should go die somwhere
by FarvaForTheVikings on May 5, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry
Favre probably doesn’t want to play anymore. He just wants to model for Wrangler
by solafide on May 5, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
In AP I trust
Brett Favre should go die somwhere
by FarvaForTheVikings on May 6, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just my opinion
Chances Vikings win Super Bowl….
with Booty, no line
with T-Jack, 30-1
with Cutler, 10-1
with Sage, 7-1
with Favre, 3-1
I base this on experience and performance under pressure. I think the Vikings are a real contender in the NFC, I can’t think of a team that I would say has a better chance (CAR maybe). But I would make the Vikes underdogs to PITT, NE and maybe IND and BAL (I think we’re probably equal to these two teams)
Whatever they decide to do, I hope they don’t blow it, because the time is now.
by newmexvike on May 5, 2009 9:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Philly is the team to beat in the NFC
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 5, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait a minute
The Bears got Cutler! They are the team to beat in the entire NFL!
by solafide on May 5, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What are you smokin?
Cutler’s won/loss percentage is average at best!! He has a great arm but have you been to soldier field in late November or December? The wind doesn’t blow in Denver the way it does in Chicago and who is he gonna throw the ball to? The NFC north has a long way to go before the division wins another superbowl!
by swputsemout on May 5, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way man...
Cutler was so worth all the 1st round picks… As a Vikings fan I am so jealous of the Bears. I wish the Vikings would have gotten him, heck we should have traded AP for Cutler. Cutler is the man!, and the other teams in the NFC North are mere mortals in comparison. I’m jking bro
by solafide on May 5, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHHHTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOUR LOCO
TRADE AP,,DID U BUMP UR HEAD,,,,,YMM TWICE ,THREE TIMESS,,,
by lepkhan((VIKES))) on May 5, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cutler is so much better than AP
Man we need a franchise QB. not a hall of fame RB…
…please if you guys haven’t caught my sarcasm, I’ve lost hope for you.
by solafide on May 5, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, though
AP probably will not play for half as many years as Cutler. Maybe that wouldn’t be a terrible trade.
by KC Viking on May 6, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why Philly? Why not the Cards? I mean, they DID go to the SB last year and absolutely demolish the #1 ranked defense.
by Frost on May 5, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm feeling the Lions
they’re due for a Miami like come back…
by solafide on May 5, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, the Raiders are due for a miami comeback. The Lions can stay in the basement.
by Frost on May 5, 2009 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah raiders are too damn stupid for a comeback
DHB at # 7? i was like you got to be kidding me? troy williamson jr to me
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MLB-Rays,Twins,Marlins,Reds
NBA-T-Wolves,Cavliiers,Warriors,Bobcats
NHL-Wild,Penguins
NCAA-Gophers,Gators,Longhorns,Fighting Irish
all in the order in which i root for 1st
by RaysOfHope on May 5, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of the Lions, random comment
I do feel really bad for Calvin Johnson, how unmotivated he must feel being on the Lions, when he’s so good… …that sucks more being Calvin Johnson than the Vikings getting Favre for you #4 haters out there
by solafide on May 5, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HA HA
PREDICTION FOR NEXT SEASON,,CALVIN GOES TO THE VIKES,,,,,,I DONT MIND SWOOPN UP ON THE NFC ,, I CALL IT NOW,,FARVE,AP,BERRIAN,RICE,CALVIN,,AWSUM DEFENSE!!!!!! EQUALZ=== SUPERBOWL????
VIKES FAN
by lepkhan((VIKES))) on May 5, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your prediction will not happen, sorry. The only way he comes here is to be traded. They’re not going to trade him unless we give up a Cutler-esque type of deal.
by Frost on May 5, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not buying the defense as much without Dawkins. He was a leader. And I still say they need a better between the tackles kind of RB. They drafted one. but he’s smallish too. But I agree so far as, they are the team to beat in the NFC East.
by newmexvike on May 6, 2009 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somehow Sage has a better line than Cutler…I really believe this…
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
by mjschaefer on May 6, 2009 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From The Beginning
I am old. So old that I was a Viking fan in year 1 of their existance. I know that some or most of you hate Farve. But in my humble opinion if he is healthy and has the competitive fire and not the Packer Payback motivation then I think we should roll the dice. None of our other QBs are ready and the window of opportunity is closing fast on this group.
Or we can just fire Chilli and I would be satisfied.
by StAlphonzo on May 5, 2009 9:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am with you brother...
Being old as well, being a Viking fan since 1970, the only chance the Vikings have is with Favre…I cannot take another year of Adrian Peterson’s career being wasted without a QB who can open up the running lanes for him, or make the defense pay when they creep 9 or 10 men in the box…
As well, can you imagine, when Childress sends another bone headed play into the huddle, Favre will say WTF, and call his own play…at least we’ll get away from another season of “horrific” playcalling…
by sle71r on May 5, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
off topic but the lions have signed MLB larry foote
they have upgraded their team alot this offseason
NFL-Lions,Vikings,Texans,Bills
MLB-Rays,Twins,Marlins,Reds
NBA-T-Wolves,Cavliiers,Warriors,Bobcats
NHL-Wild,Penguins
NCAA-Gophers,Gators,Longhorns,Fighting Irish
all in the order in which i root for 1st
by RaysOfHope on May 5, 2009 9:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
God be with all of you!
Just visiting this blog as a packer fan. I must say you guys have a big problem on your hands!! The Vikes look like the Lions when they had Barry. AP and a bunch of overachievers! Well good luck if you guys take a flier on Brett. He will win you just as many as he loses you. Is he in it for the chance at a superbowl? I doubt it ~ He started out with the Jets and burnt out half way through the season. You will get huge press for the Vikes-Packer games but then what? He is coachable but all he really wants is to put Ted Thompson’s head on a board over his mantle next to one of the Whitetails he shot!!! He does give you better than what you got but without the heart of a lion he is nothing more than a lamb waiting to get slaughtered!!! By the way I have admired Brett for years until his juvenile tantrums regarding Rogers replacing him in Green Bay.
Every dog has his day and he had his – now is not the time for you guys to waste another season of AP’s precious talent!!! Someone needs to get Tavaris to play football and be a leader in the huddle!!! He has talent but either coaching or his own brain haven’t allowed it to be adequately harnassed!!! Good Luck!! You will need it!!
by swputsemout on May 5, 2009 9:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
brett never had a core like the vikes have though
levens in his day was pretty good, but no where near wat AD is, berrian and co. as well
NFL-Lions,Vikings,Texans,Bills
MLB-Rays,Twins,Marlins,Reds
NBA-T-Wolves,Cavliiers,Warriors,Bobcats
NHL-Wild,Penguins
NCAA-Gophers,Gators,Longhorns,Fighting Irish
all in the order in which i root for 1st
by RaysOfHope on May 5, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He hasn’t have a RB like AD, I agree with that, but I think his WR crew in GB, especially in ’08, completely outclasses Berrian and Co.
by Frost on May 5, 2009 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ya true but AD and company out weigh them in my opinion
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MLB-Rays,Twins,Marlins,Reds
NBA-T-Wolves,Cavliiers,Warriors,Bobcats
NHL-Wild,Penguins
NCAA-Gophers,Gators,Longhorns,Fighting Irish
all in the order in which i root for 1st
by RaysOfHope on May 5, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
history will not repeat itself in Minnesota!
When the Pack won the superbowl Favre could still scramble and thread the needle with the ball anytime he wanted!! He can’t do that anymore!!! Tavaris’s arm is stronger than Favre’s right now, I just don’t know if he knows how to play the game!
by swputsemout on May 5, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
favre will teach him
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MLB-Rays,Twins,Marlins,Reds
NBA-T-Wolves,Cavliiers,Warriors,Bobcats
NHL-Wild,Penguins
NCAA-Gophers,Gators,Longhorns,Fighting Irish
all in the order in which i root for 1st
by RaysOfHope on May 5, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favre won’t teach anybody. When has he ever been known as a mentor?
In AP I trust
Brett Favre should go die somwhere
by FarvaForTheVikings on May 5, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favre can change alright...
Chilly the Great Character Evaluator can bring a change to Favre’s selfish ways & habits. Just you see : )
by solafide on May 5, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brett's last 5 games of the last 5 years.
Having Brett for the first 10 games of the season may be ok, But I sure don’t want him in the last 5 games. Over the last 5 years his stats for the last 5 games are terrible. If you add them up they look like this.
866 att 495 comp. 57.1%. 21 tds and 40 Ints for an overall rating of 64.9.
I’d rather him not be a Viking.
by raptorman on May 5, 2009 10:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The fact is, Pat Williams and Winfield aren’t going to be around much longer. This is the window. This year, maybe next year. The reason we are probably going to do this is for this reason. None of these fantastic vets on defense want to have to count on any of the QB’s on our roster. There is no doubt in my mind they want Favre on this team. And I really think it’s going to happen.
by jjstraka on May 5, 2009 10:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You can blame the Coaching staff or the Vikings Veterans
For Wanting to win now!
How much faith do you think the actual Viking players have in Jackson? Rosenfels? More than I do, i hope.
by solafide on May 5, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
THIS IS SIMPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We have to remember that Favre hates Thompson, we hate the Packers….it goes hand in hand!
I’ve been a Vike’s fan for over 40 years now, and I’ve lived in Wisconsin for the past ten years (originally from Minnesota). I can’t tell you how SICK I am of having to listen to these fans talk about how many super bowls we’ve blown, and how many they have. Can you imagine winning our first super bowl ever with their hall of famer QB?!?!?!?! You talk about sticking it to the Packers like never before!!!!!!!!! I dream of this happening, and it can’t happen if Favre doesn’t sign with the Vikings.
If I may steal what Gonzo said about the “finger” thing, I’m with most of you on that. I detest the Packers, in fact, I’m wondering why I keep capitalizing the “P” when I type their name! LOL
Like a lot of others have said, I think he’s our best option at QB right now if we can get him to sign. If not, we have another one-and-out in the playoffs and look forward to next year’s draft.
I don’t know about you folks, but I’m ready for a bowl win!
by stilpony on May 5, 2009 11:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
At best, we’ll blow another Super Bowl with Favre. I don’t think we’ll even get there.
Also, I don’t want a guy who just wants to stick it to the Packers. I want a guy who wants to win.
In AP I trust
Brett Favre should go die somwhere
by FarvaForTheVikings on May 6, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favre winning WILL be sticking it to the Packers, because he’ll be saying “Look what you’re missing out on, bitches!”. It’s a win-win (win) situation for us.
by Frost on May 6, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
here’s favre handing off to peterson, petrson breaks a tackle, peterson takes it all the way, touchdown vikings…favre going deep to harvin…touchdown vikings!
by chaucer on May 6, 2009 12:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Favre sees Harvin double covered… still throws it because he can still make those throws… except he can’t… interception… other team’s ball.
In AP I trust
Brett Favre should go die somwhere
by FarvaForTheVikings on May 6, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dome Favre
Maybe Brett just wants to play inside. He looked pretty miserable playing his final game at lambeu, and the Jets’ stadium isn’t exactly comfortable in December and January. Favre used to be known as a cold weather/wind resistant quarterback, but now he’s just old and looking for a place resembling florida. Ironically, that place is in Minnesota. Not many other teams have both a dome and want a quarterback.
by oblivionspocket on May 6, 2009 12:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If Favre can...
get one guy out of the box during a game, which he can, we will win 3 more games. Favre doesn’t even need to throw the ball, he just needs to open the game up for AP. Teams will respect his arm, they will respect his ability, and they won’t load up the box. Favre won’t take over games at all, Chilly still makes the calls, and AP will still handle the load for this team. Period.
by Eric The Viking on May 6, 2009 12:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention he’ll recognize when a team is going to be blitzing, and promptly audible out of it. Or so you’d hope. Obviously Jackson hasn’t been given that privelage for whatever reason, or perhaps he simply has trouble recognizing defenses. Favre will not.
by Frost on May 6, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
U PEOPLE R INSANE!!!!!
First off, people talking that “We should’ve traded A.P. for Cutler” bull crap needs to hand in their Viking’s fan cards….because that’s ludicrous! Now…the Favre situation makes me….gag..actually. Because we’d would be inviting in a former enemy into our camp. And I know you might bring up us getting Darren Sharper..but that’s different. If we get Freet Bavre, we might…slim chance..might be in the running for the NFC title game. But knowing that he broke the TD record on us and all the torment he’s caused….him here just won’t sit well.
by Supabad1edy on May 6, 2009 1:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sarcasm
Some of you people should look up the meaning and learn how to identify it…the dude was joking and he even said he was joking so maybe you need to learn how to read as well.
by BigSkyViking on May 6, 2009 1:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Favre attracts flies...just like crap
take a look at how busy this board is now. Why? mostly because Fav’ray is in the mix now. Can you imagine the morons that are going to jump on the Viking bandwagon if Fav’ray comes to our team? This team hasnt always been a model organization, or even the epitomy of “class act” all the time (see Mike Lynn or Les Steckle) BUT…I dont need a bunch of Fav’ray Boyz to come clamoring on to the Purple Bandwagon & then start dissing my team when he starts throwing Ints. The “evil backlash” is already starting. This bs & banter is becoming unbelievable.
NO FAVRE! NO WAY! NO HOW! Can we get back to being the “up and coming Minnesota Vikings” & move AWAY from this f’ing CIRCUS!!!!!
wow…I feel alot better now.
by Viking64 on May 6, 2009 7:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I feel better after reading that too.
Keep the faith brother! No Favre!
In AP I trust
Brett Favre should go die somwhere
by FarvaForTheVikings on May 6, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know your name isn't favreforthevikings...
But it sure looks like it. It’s just funny to see your name on a post that says no favre! haha
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 6, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, kind of funny. Oh well. /shrugs
In AP I trust
Brett Favre should go die somwhere
by FarvaForTheVikings on May 6, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get Real, This was Coming All Along!
Come on guys, get real.
Do any of you really think Chilly signed Sage Rosenfels to be the starting QB?
Its as obvious as the nose on your face that he was hoping for Favre from the start.
Rosenfels is a career backup and T-Jack might, might, might someday be an average starter, but neither of them is good enough now to get this team over the hump.
by Ragnar on May 6, 2009 8:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Ragnar
Exactly what i have been getting at. Do I like it or agree with it? I have waivered from a definite NO to a “what the heck” I mean what else could we do except sell out the draft or trade away good players to get Cutler? No way!
I’m at the point I’m getting tired of it all o let’s just do it! People were calling for us to court a crop of FA QB’s. Favre is no worse than those guys and has the success history. Not that you can’t take into account age and injury/ But… for one year it might be worth the gamble. And I do say gamble
by CitrusFLViking on May 6, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kill me.
Kill me. Please, just kill me.
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by Manimal on May 6, 2009 8:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm tying myself to the track
right next to you. This thread is making my head spin and smoke is coming out of my ears.
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by TheViking83 on May 6, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stand strong, brother.
Or lay strong. We’ll make it through. Somehow.
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by Manimal on May 6, 2009 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish it were Terry Tate...
The Pain Train’s coming! Wooo Wooo! Wooo Wooo!
You kill the Joe, you make some mo!
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by Manimal on May 6, 2009 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on!
I was never a big supporter of the Favre drama, but it was and is fun to comment on. So what if we sign him. Aside from giving up the draft bank to get Cutler, we didn’t have many QB options to go with. If we don’t pay too much, take the gamble.
I really don’t think he’ll come to Minny with the attitude he had with players in NY. He didn’t want to go there. He wants to be here and am sure he will be far more happy now that he is playing where he wants to. He’ll rally around the players, he’ll be enthusiatic that he is on this team and has two motives. 1. To beat his old team. 2. One last shot at glory
Can he do it? Who knows. But, I am not against taking the chance at this point. Many were calling for us to sign Garcia (an old man). If Brett stays healhy, it is a far better risk than Garcia
by CitrusFLViking on May 6, 2009 8:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bears fan here...
Just for truth in advertising, I thought I would state that upfront.
Brett Freaking Favre? St. Brett, the anointed one?
Root for him? As a fan?
Think about this for a minute….
“Yeah, Brett Favre is my guy…”
“My team depends on Brett Favre”
“We are going to take the ball out of AP’s hands at crunch time and give it to Brett Favre”
“I don’t mind 4 interceptions a game as long as we get 300 yards, baby”
This guy wasn’t “a Packer”… this guy was “THE Packer”. He is the embodiment of evil in football. This is Brett Freaking FAVRE here.
Honestly… and I am not just saying this… I would rather my team go 0-16 than see that guy in our uniform.
The worst part if it is, for y’all, that this isn’t 1999 Brett Favre… I watched him play last year, and I know you folks did too…
I hope for your all’s sake that this doesn’t go any farther and that it all just goes away… not out of any love for the VIkings (of course, I hope we beat the snot out of you guys this year) but simply because I am sick and tired of seeing Brett Favre (we are 6-2 against him over the last 5 year, it isn’t fear… I just can’t stand the guy).
by sabbath999 on May 6, 2009 9:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's really sad
that I have to agree with all of the Bears fans wandering over here more than my fellow Vikes fans.
It’s very sad… but it’s true. Sabbath, I agree with you 100%.
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by TheViking83 on May 6, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So do I… what has this world come too?
In AP I trust
Brett Favre should go die somwhere
by FarvaForTheVikings on May 6, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree...also
it is sad. Very sad. Its ironic to me that a Bears fan points out crystal clear truth re: this entire “Fav’ray to the Vikings” issue. If I recall I had to “eat my hat” when a certain Bear QB came to Minne waaaaayyyy past his prime. Jim McMahon re-do anyone? You guys are all suckers. Fav’ray should stay retired or go back to Green Stinkin’ Gay (oops..I mean Bay) where he belongs. This just sucks! When and if this all pans out for you Fav’ray fans, enjoy the 7-9 implosion at the end of the season. And watch the mass defections of our good players that will want to leave this stinking..I mean sinking ship. Give Sage a chance. And get off the T-Whack, Division 2 QB pipe dream. MAN this sucks.
by Viking64 on May 6, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do a comparison:
Childress has already shown several times that he is willing to bench AP in crunch time, so based on that…
“We are going to take the ball out of AP’s hands at crunch time and give it to Brett Favre"
“We are going to take the ball out of AP’s hands at crunch time and give it to Tavaris Jackson"
“We are going to take the ball out of AP’s hands at crunch time and give it to Sage Rosenfels"
Which scares you the least?
Do I like Favre? No, I do not.
Do I think he gives us the best chance to win at the position? Yes I do.
Under pressure, Tavaris freezes up. We saw it in the early games (End of the Titans game anyone?) and during the Philly game.
Under pressure, Rosenfels attempts anything to make a play, and is riskier than Favre.
Under pressure, Favre scares other teams. Yes, he is old. Yes, he is risky. But he can handle pressure, and in the crunch, he’ll scare teams more than Jackson will.
A final note I need to add is that Governor Pawlenty, the person who has shot down every comment about the stadium, is FOR this move. Simply from a stadium building standpoint, this is a good move.
So, close your eyes, pinch your nose, swallow and smile. And hopefully Zygi will get what he needs.
When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.
by Robert Rence on May 6, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
I was wondering when somebody would bring up Pawlenty is enticed by the Vikes signing Favre.
by Frost on May 6, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a valid point
And you don’t think Zygi will have noticed?
When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.
by Robert Rence on May 6, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's a VERY valid point
and Zygi is a guy who has donated a LOT of money over the years too MANY political campaigns, so he knows how the political schmoozing goes.
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by TheViking83 on May 6, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Half a season's glory
Brett would play to spite the Packers, not to help the Vikings. His birthday is October 10, and he will be 40. The Vikes will host the Packers 5 days before Favre’s 40th birthday. Talk about motivation for Favre. Kill the Packers right before turning 40. Then, the second game is Nov. 1 – about half-way through the season, at Lambeau. Talk about motivation for Favre. Kill the Packers in Lambeau. However, at that point Favre will have checked off all the reasons for coming back. No more motivation. He doesn’t care about his teammates – didn’t in New York for sure, and really didn’t in Green Bay for the final year or two. At that point he’ll be a tired, 40-year old, unmotivated diva with half a season left to grind out. uhhmmm, lotsa luck at 8-8, or 9-7 guys. Sheesh.
by purplelooksblueontv on May 6, 2009 9:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
of course he doesn't care about his teammates
Did you guys know that in Green Bay Brett had his own dressing room???
No joke. He’s pathetic.
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by TheViking83 on May 6, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
EXACTLY. That’s what I think whenever someone says “he wants to stick it to the Packers.” Yes, that’s all he wants to do. Is that all we want? To beat the Packers and have a spectacular late season collapse?
In AP I trust
Brett Favre should go die somwhere
by FarvaForTheVikings on May 6, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good logic!
I like the way you guys think! Fav’ray is all about himself. We just cannot afford this foolishness right now. Where the HELL is my Vicodin, damn’it! I need some right now…..with a pint of ale. Cripes!!!
by Viking64 on May 6, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Souhon puts it pretty well...
My favorite quotes from the article:
Favre is the supermodel who maxes out your credit cards. He is the sports car that wipes out your bank account. He is enticing, and he is captivating, and he is trouble.
Favre would give the Vikings a much better chance of selling out a home playoff game this year, and not much more of a chance of winning that game.
Look at Favre’s postseason history. He won one Super Bowl, with a superior Packers team — the same number as Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson.
I know a lot of people hate Souhon, but at least he is one of the few people in Minnesota with common sense on this topic.
And after reading the comments on this article, as well as around here, I am SO SICK of people giving Brett the benefit of the doubt when it comes to his awful play at the end of the year last year. “Wah wah, his poor arm was hurt, wah wah, that’s why he was bad, wah wah”. God, shut up people. Favre, at this point in his career, is gonna give you about 50/50. Half the time he’ll be good, half the time he’ll be bad. And if his arm was hurt so bad, that it affected his play THAT much, then why, when your team is in a crucial playoff hunt, are you going to keep starting him?? Oh yeah, because he wasn’t really hurt all that bad. He was just fulfilling his quota. He was pretty good for the first half of the season, so he was bound to be bad the second half.
Remember when TJax got hurt in the preseason? Well, that MUST have been why he played bad in the beginning of the year, losing his job to Gus Frerotte, right? Right?!?! No. Of course not. His reason was he is not talented and was not prepared to lead our offense. But Brett….. well, OF COURSE his decline is because of a “terrible injury”. OF COURSE it is…..
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by TheViking83 on May 6, 2009 9:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hmmm, where did the link go??
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by TheViking83 on May 6, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably because Clements would in no way have helped them win their games either. And the difference between Jackson’s KNEE injury and Favre’s ARM injury on the effect on their throwing game is pretty clear. But honestly I didn’t think Jackson was terrible in the beginning of the season. Recievers just couldn’t catch, and he was only throwing the ball 7 times a half.
But you have to be crazy to think Jackson is better than Favre. At this point anyways. Given another year, maybe Jackson will be able to start fulltime. Personally I’m looking forward to watching Favre dissect whatever defenses try to do to him.
by Frost on May 6, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then try and throw it...
And since he’s 40 and needs surgery, the ball goes flying out of control into a linebacker’s hands.
I’d rather suit up Childress and give him a T-Shirt cannon to shoot footballs than have Favre.
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by Manimal on May 6, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can dream. We can dream.
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by Manimal on May 6, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s the next big thing. As soon as the Wildcat dies out, teams will switch to the “Cannon Offense.”
In AP I trust
Brett Favre should go die somwhere
by FarvaForTheVikings on May 6, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh...um...
You heard it here first?
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by Manimal on May 6, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sign up T. C. the bear. That guy has got skills with the T-shirt cannon.
by Tuba on May 6, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
I hear ya. I wasn’ty trying to say that TJax is better, or should be the starting QB. I was just trying to get the point across that when it comes to Brett Favre, somebody always has excuses. No matter how awful he is, or how important the game he’s blowing might be, everyone is always going to come up with an excuse to rectify his poor play.
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by TheViking83 on May 6, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone visualize this.
Imagine the 2 minute drill now. We haven’t had someone capable of handling in quite sometime. I am starting to turn towards accepting this….OMG I cant believe it. I might need an intervention.
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by RileysCannibalJct on May 6, 2009 10:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A two-minute drill is no good if Favre tries to force it into double coverage for the winning touchdown and gets picked.
In AP I trust
Brett Favre should go die somwhere
by FarvaForTheVikings on May 6, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe, but...
What exactly has Tarvaris or Sage done throughout each of their careers to make you think they will do anything different?
Now I admit it will be weird to see Favre in purple(if it actually happens), but I’m also excited for what he can do for our offense. Just the threat that Favre poses to opposing defenses takes the 8th man out of the box. With Adrian, Berrian, Harvin, Chester, Favre, one of the best offensive lines in football, as well as a quality TE in Shiancoe, our offense may become one of the most explosive in the NFL. We went 10-6 last season with Jackson putting up lackluster stats and Gus almost seemingly trying to lose at times (I was at the game against the Pack in the dome and it was one of the worst performances from a QB I saw all of last year).
We don’t have to give up any compensation to acquire him, and if he comes into camp and legitmally outplays Jackson and Sage, I have no qualms with him being our starter in 2009.
by Ryder7 on May 6, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I lOVE this!
I hope Favre becomes a Viking. It just means 2 more wins for the Bears this year.
I can’t wait for the Monday night game in Dec when Favre comes to town! He’ll mail it in just like he did 2 years ago when Kyle Orton made him look like a junior high QB!
by Bearsguy34 on May 6, 2009 10:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It won't matter
The Vikings could start Brett Favre, Bret Michaels, Bret Hart, or the corpse of Brett Summers (R.I.P.) at QB in 2009 and they’d still be a better team than the Chicago Bears.
I thought that was made pretty clear last year when the Vikings made the playoffs and the Bears sat at home with their thumbs in their asses with their fans yapping about how they were still a better team than the Vikings.
Whoever the QB is for the Vikings in 2009, they’ll be the starting QB of the best team in the NFC North. Absolutely nothing that’s happened in the NFC North since January should lead anyone to believe differently.
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by Gonzo on May 6, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then again
You might be right. . .
See, that game where Favre and the Packers “mailed it in” came in the year when the Pack went 13-3 and had nothing to play for over the last couple of weeks.
Since the Vikings should have the division well and truly wrapped up before Week 16 this year. . .what with clearly being the best team in the division and all. . .whoever the Vikings’ QB is for that game just might “mail it in.” Hell, I’d be surprised to see the starting QB play for more than a half.
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by Gonzo on May 6, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How'd the Playoff game..
Work out for ya?
by Bearsguy34 on May 6, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess better than the...
41-0 agains tthe Giants the LAST time you made the playoffs! lol
by Bearsguy34 on May 6, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and that wasn't
Minnesota’s most recent trip to the playoffs.
If you weren’t stupid, you’d know that.
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by Gonzo on May 6, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some more questions
Can the Bears win without getting between 8 and 10 lucky special teams bounces per game?
Has Charles Tillman figured out where the hell Bernard Berrian went to yet?
Has the Bears offense figured out how to move the ball forward 6 inches on first and goal from inside the 1? They sure as hell didn’t know how to when the playoffs were on the line last year, did they?
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by Gonzo on May 6, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How'd sittin' on your ass..
Work out for ya?
by Ryder7 on May 6, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your team didn't even go!
So what are you trash talking that for?
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by Manimal on May 6, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gee Sorry...
Must have hit a sore spot.
I know that after thinking you had a Superbowl calibre team last year and you "One-and-Done must have been heartbreaking.
We were picked to be dead last in the division last year and still only finished a game behind you. I would almost PREFER to not make the playoffs than lose the only one AT HOME.
by Bearsguy34 on May 6, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then you're not a true football fan
And now i understand why you’re a Bears Fan
by Ryder7 on May 6, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then you're simply being stupid...
And delusional. To say that is absolutely ignorant and you’re only saying that to incite others.
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by Manimal on May 6, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol.
“Man, I love my team so much. I hope they DON’T make the playoffs!”
Yeaaaaaaahh, we’re supposed to believe that.
by Frost on May 6, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
crappy insults don't hit our sore spot...
stupidity does.
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by TheViking83 on May 6, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Completely Agree
I don’t understand why bringing in a pre-modonna crybaby QB, who hasnt had a winning season since his senior season of high school, all of a sudden negates the fact that they have no receivers to speak of, as well as a aging offensive line and a below average/old/constantly injured defense.
by Ryder7 on May 6, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I definitely thought you were talking about Favre at first.
You see?!?! Favre = Cutler 20 years from now! We can’t get the same type of QB as the Bears!
In AP I trust
Brett Favre should go die somwhere
by FarvaForTheVikings on May 6, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We don't have to
Because the supporting cast surrounding our QB is ten times more talented that of the Chicago Bears.
by Ryder7 on May 6, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So,,,
Do you think we could work something out with Bret Hart? I’d take him over farve.
What up?
by snakethejake on May 6, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be.
The Hitman, that is.
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by TheViking83 on May 6, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Talk to me...
When you guys win a ring, or actually WIN a playoff game.
Otherwise, you have nothing to talk about.
by Bearsguy34 on May 6, 2009 10:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, holier than thou...
Get off your high horse. As far as everyone’s concerned, you have nothing to talk about either. Your team had to beat the Texans to make the playoffs and couldn’t do it. Your team has much more to prove than the Vikings do. When your team makes the playoffs and gets farther than the Vikings, maybe then you can talk your smack.
Until then, you just look like a pitiful, little, ignorant boy.
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by Manimal on May 6, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No worries...
We’ll prove it this year. When #4 comes to town and throws 4 picks a game, we’ll see who is laughing.
If Favre does fail, kiss Chily goodbye…oh wait, that might be a GOOD thing for your team!
by Bearsguy34 on May 6, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So right now...
You think your team will prove it, and you’re basing that off the idea the Vikings will sign Favre, he’ll start, and throw interceptions. All complete conjecture.
So as of now, you still have absolutely no basis to gloat on. Based on what we know, the Vikings were the superior team last year, and the Bears got Cutler. It will be a different year; that’s all we know. To say anything else is just speculation, which is fine, but I don’t know that I’d talk so much trash over it.
Maybe Cutler falls on his face without good receivers. Maybe not. Maybe Percy Harvin is rookie of the year and scores tons of TDs. Maybe not. Who knows?
Not me, and certainly not you.
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by Manimal on May 6, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It won’t matter, really. Frerotte threw 4 picks to you guys last season, and you only won because of two flukey ST plays. Peterson will run all over your slow defense. For the 5th and 6th game in a row. Come back and talk trash once you hold him under 100 yards, kthx.
by Frost on May 6, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are ya sure?
Noboday knows, that’s what I mean. Do you think I am that big of a idiot?
You all talk like you have the best team in the NFL in here, you’re going to the Superbowl, blah blah blah.
The fact of the matter is, upgrading our QB (the one you guys failed to be able to land), improves our team tenfold. We have weapons like Hester, Greg Olsen, Dez Clark, and of course, Mat Forte, who in my opinion may be the 2nd best back in the league behind AP. Our new WR in Earl Bennett played with Cutler in Vandy. Our newest draftee in Johnny Knox will be a BIG improvement in the slot over Rashied (the only meaningful catch I ever caught was the 4th quarter comeback win at the Dome) Davis.
I can tell you this though…it is going to be FUN this year to watch it all unfold if Favre DOES come to MN, Cutler in his new home, Stafford’s Rookie year, and the development of the Aaron Rodgers project.
It makes a guy feel good that our NFC North Division is getting better every year, and the Bears now have at least a little competition!
Good luck this year fellas. See ya at the Homer Dome in Nov. I live in Bloomington right down I-35 and I will be there with my #6 jersey on. It’s gonna be fun!
by Bearsguy34 on May 6, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re damn right it will be fun. To beat the Bears by 20+
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by fetch9 on May 6, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lay your money down son...
MNF in late Decemeber?
Of course, that game shouldn’t matter to us by then since we will be laeding the Division by 2-3 games already ;)
by Bearsguy34 on May 6, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The fact that you just name dropped Desmond Clark...
Proves all of our previous points. Thank you.
by Ryder7 on May 6, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better than...
Shianko and Kleinsausage
by Bearsguy34 on May 6, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He may be older...
But I <3 Jimmy K.
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by Manimal on May 6, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
love me some Jimmy K too
who doesn’t?!
He’s one of the best blocking TE’s in the league, and when used (which is rarely) he’s a decent pass-catcher.
Shiancoe blew away his negative stigma this past season, found the cure for his case of the dropsies, and put up very good numbers.
I don’t see Desmond Clark as any better than either or these two.
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by TheViking83 on May 6, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For the record...
I never said the Vikings were going to the Super Bowl. I just said, as of now, they are the better team in the NFC North based on last year. The Vikings won the division. Winner, winner, lobster dinner. I said this year would be different.
It remains to be seen if upgrading the QB position will make your team ten times better – you can speculate, but until the pads are strapped on, it’s all conjecture. Again, talking smack over conjecture is silly to me.
How do you know they will be that much better? It’s safe to assume they will improve, but ten fold? Yikes, man, that’s a big statement.
Assuming a rookie receiver will have a big impact is also a pretty big leap; most WRs take a year or two to really get going in the NFL. Not always, to be sure, most most of the time. Personally, I’d be happy if Harvin returned kicks and got a few screen passes this year.
Regardless, the North is, indeed, getting better. Good luck to the Bears as well; everyone is going to need it this year in the Black and Blue.
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by Manimal on May 6, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weapons like Hester, who’s a terrible WR, a gimmicy one at best. Olson, who’s actually a weapon, Clark… Seriously? Desmond Clark? He’s decent at best. And the fact that your RB is perhaps your best WR is just pathetic.
by Frost on May 6, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If by saying pahetic you mean...
2010 NFC North Champions, then yes.
by Bearsguy34 on May 6, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your best WR is your RB is just 2010 NFC North Champions? That doesn’t even make sense =P
But I knew what you meant. And I could only laugh. Cutler is on your team 3 seasons too late.
by Frost on May 6, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um. Hey now, let’s be gentle with that ‘RB is perhaps your best WR’ stuff….
by DCPurple on May 7, 2009 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have never once
heard somebody at the DN say that the VIkings are super bowl bound this year.
Are you just making stuff up to insult us about now???
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by TheViking83 on May 6, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FYI...
Vikings had first shot at Cutler. Didn’t like him. Turned the offer down. Do some homework
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 6, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cutler is a bigger head case
than Favre and he isn’t even a proven veteran. Til you get some guys in the draft to support Jay, good luck! Oh! I forgot. You don’t have any draft picks. Really! Good luck.
by CitrusFLViking on May 6, 2009 11:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
All of these Favre posts,
and Cutler keeps coming up. This is silly to me.
1- Cutler is at least a top-8 QB in the league, maybe top-5. We’ll have to see how he performs in Chicago. Until we do, all the speculation as to his productivity is a pointless argument.
2- Suppose Favre does sign with Minny… won’t that be like playing with someone else’s QB? Like when the Little League baseball team has to borrow players from the other team to be able to play the game? If you do win with Favre, won’t that be like playing with a rival’s player?
3- If Favre does sign with the Vikes, it will probably only be a one year contract. Will that be okay with Vikes fans?
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by Dane Noble on May 6, 2009 11:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you.
1.) Cutler is damn good, an obvious upgrade. Glad to see a Bears’ fan with the realization he still has to perform. I assume he will, but it remains to be seen.
2.) Number 1 reason why I don’t want him. I hate him. I hate him so, so much it physically affects me. I want him to stay away.
3.) I guess if he does sign, one year is all I could stand. Get him out ASAP. I hope he doesn’t sign at all.
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by Manimal on May 6, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manimal
Enjoyed a peek at your site. I’ll check in with it now and then. You really need to share the picture of Favre wanting to "borrow’ a jersey with the gang here. That was good
Well, ESPN is yacking this BF thing to death. Let’s face it. It is going to happen. As if I didn’t have that figure out last Feb.
I just don’t think it is a bad thing for the Vikings, at least for a year, maybe 2 if we can grab a QB in the draft he can tutor.
ESPN gal said his tendon can be worked on easy and he can be throwing at full strength in 4-6 weeks. Now if the guy can do that and we don’t have to worry about his arm fading the last part of the season, take the risk if the $ is right.
I don’t hate the guy and I don’t think he hates Minny. He wants to come here and think he has for a long time. He’s a closet Viking fan coming out of his green garb. I kind of like it. We didn’t trash Longwell or Sharper for coming here. Man! Brett has worked his butt off to make this happen. So I gotta give him that. Shoot. Til we have a better option I’m thinking this will be kinda fun. Then maybe we can get your boy from Texas (McCoy) to build for the future.
by CitrusFLViking on May 6, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1) I don’t know about top 8. I’d take Rivers, Manning, Brady, Roethlisberger, Warner, McNabb, Ryan, and Pennington or even Romo over Cutler. But he’s definitely better than Grossman and Orton.
2) Not really. Does playing Cutler feel like you’re playing with Denver’s QB? He’s a FA. He has no team. I understand that he’s closely affiliated with the Packers, but it doesn’t change my opinion of him. If he does well as a Viking, I’m not going to feel guilty because he played with the Pack for 15 years.
3) One year is just fine. It’ll give us a chance to evaluate just how good our HC actually is. If his playbook doesn’t get more variety with Brett Favre under center, then we know he’s gotta go.
by Frost on May 6, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cutler =/= Favre
In respects to your comment about number two. Favre was an institution in Green Bay, and coming to Minnesota (a hated rival) is much different than Cutler going to Chicago. They’re not even in the same conference.
He was pointing out that Favre, an icon in Green Bay, hated by Vikings’ fans for years, coming to Minnesota was be just…weird.
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by Manimal on May 6, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wierd and completely acceptable in my eyes.
by Frost on May 6, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1- Warner, McNabb, Ryan, and Pennington > Cutler? Wow.
2- See Manimal’s reply above.
3- Favre might just be a coach-killer if he comes to Minny.
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by Dane Noble on May 6, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1) Yep. They didn’t have to throw the ball 600 times to get their stats. Okay maybe Ryan was a bit of a stretch since he’s only one season. But that still gives me 8! And how is Warner/McNabb a wow for being > Cutler? I think it’s pretty obvious they’re better than he is.
2) Really it’s not as big a deal as people make it. I can understand it, of course, but I don’t get hating a player just because he was an icon for another team when he’s a free-agent who not only wants to kick a rival’s ass but is an upgrade at his position to boot.
3) It’s entirely possible. Which is part of the reason I want him, so I can see and judge for myself whether Childress really should be a HC or not. With FAvre, there’s absolutely no reason we don’t win the NFC North (barring extreme injuries).
by Frost on May 6, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1- McNabb and Warner at the pinnacle of their careers > Cutler now. MacNabb and Warner now < Cutler now.
2- I know. Still weird though.
3- We might be in the same position. Ron Turner has been given some weapons and tools for 2009 that he didn’t have in 2008. Add that to Lovie Smith having to call the plays on defense, and if those two fellers don’t produce, they might be shown the door as well.
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by Dane Noble on May 6, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Warner last season – Superbowl. This season – still has LFitz and Boldin
McNabb last season – NFC Champ game. This season – More playmakers and a LT
Cutler last season – needed one win in 4 games to go to the playoffs. 0-4. This season – on a Bear’s team that will not throw 600 times, and even if they did, they do not have Brandon Marshall or Eddie Royal.
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 6, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's subjective, and counter-argumentative.
You speak of McNabb and Warner based on numbers and stats, but speak of Cutler only on wins, and on speculation.
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by Dane Noble on May 6, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aaaand, not taking into consideration age.
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by Dane Noble on May 6, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are no stats in my post
Only performances. I only mentioned that Cutler threw 600 times. And I really don’t think there is any speculation on my part. Do you think the Bear’s are going to throw the rock 600 times this season?
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 6, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can only speculate.
I’d say maybe 500.
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by Dane Noble on May 6, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fun stats:)
If Cutler puts up the same averages as last year, here is what his stats will look like if he threw 465 passes (orton last year) and 500 passes.
290/465 – 3418 – 19 – 14
312/500 – 3675 – 20 – 15
Taking his stats from throwing 500 times, he would be:
9th in yards
12th in TDs
28th in INTs (with 1 being the least)
So in summation, if Cutler plays with the same averages as he did last year, he will not be a top 8 QB in the league. (Yes I know, a case can be made that his averages will not look like they did last season. Personally, I think they will be worse because he does not have Marshall or Royal to throw to. Just my opinion)
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 6, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re crazy, I’d take McNabb and/or Warner right now over Cutler for sure. lol You’re insane. I mean the reason the Broncos let him go was because they felt Cutler hit his ceiling last year. That’s why McDaniel’s wanted Cassel. Granted it’s a good cieling for him to hit, he had a good season, but it’s not going to be better than McNabb and Warner.
by Frost on May 6, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re crazy, I’d take McNabb and/or Warner right now over Cutler for sure.
How many good seasons would you get out of Warner or McNabb?
I mean the reason the Broncos let him go was because they felt Cutler hit his ceiling last year. That’s why McDaniel’s wanted Cassel.
Not exactly, but close. I never heard anything about the Broncs thinking that Cutler had hit his ceiling. He’s only played in 3 seasons! McDaniels wanted Cassell because he like what he saw from Cassell in NE. New coach, new system. He wanted his guy. Cutler wasn’t his guy.
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by Dane Noble on May 6, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who knows how many you could get out of Warner or McNabb. They just don’t seem to stop. When you count them out, they come back and surprise you.
And I’ll find a link of where I read about Cutler’s cieling being possibly reached if I can. I don’t buy that new coach new system thing really. It just seems kind of silly.
by Frost on May 6, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would that seem silly?
Parcells effectively recruited a lot of his former staff away from Dallas when he got the Miami job. It’s not uncommon at all. If you helped develop a young player under you when you were a coordinator, and got a HC job somewhere else, why wouldn’t you try to get your guy to follow you if you thought you could?
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by Dane Noble on May 6, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because the offense was built around Cutler. It’d take a couple seasons to retool it to fit Cassel’s strengths.
Anyways, I found the article. Apparently I misremembered it somewhat. Here’s the quote: “There’s a consensus in league circles that Cutler has plateaued after showing some improvement early in the 2008 season.”
Now I don’t know if they meant that he could have done better last season or if it means that he’s gotten as good as he’ll ever be.
Linkage: http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/02/28/broncos-considered-trading-cutler/
by Frost on May 6, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No offense could have been built around Cutler!
Not yet anyways… like I said before, he’s only played 3 seasons. Regardless, PFT’s statement about certain cicles saying Cutler has plateaued… well, that’s PFT for you. I hope to gawd if he has plateaued, that he can maintain that plateau for a good 6-8 seasons more…
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by Dane Noble on May 7, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3) I am a little confused. You want Farve to test if Chilly is a good coach because if he can’t win the NFC North with a 40 QB then he is no good. Wouldn’t winning the NFC North with Freotte and Jackson be an even bigger accomplishment by those standards? How does having Farve “test” Childress if the QB challenge is supposedly not there any more?
by vikingfuture8816 on May 6, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With Favre, Childress shouldn’t be clamping down on the “complicated” plays which he apparently does with Jackson. Meaning he’ll get whatever creative juices he has flowing. Or at least he should. There should be no reason for an over-simplified offense like we saw in the second half of the philly game with Favre under center. If he can do well with Favre, then obviously all the team needs is a better QB than what we currently have.
by Frost on May 6, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well GeauxBears...
your boy BearsGuy34 is the reason that Cutler keeps coming up. So don’t look at us…
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by TheViking83 on May 6, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said nothing about Cutler...
Other than he should improve our team drastically.
by Bearsguy34 on May 6, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah...
but you’re the reason he keeps coming up.
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by TheViking83 on May 6, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh well in that case...
Doesn’t even make sense.
by Bearsguy34 on May 6, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It makes sense to me...
but perhaps you need half a brain to understand my crazy logic. My apologies.
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by TheViking83 on May 6, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At this point in their respective careers....
….TJ wins a true QB competition over Sage, Favre and Booty. His athleticism and chemistry developed with teammates is enough to put him over the top. I’ve got your back T-Jack!!!!!
by KC612 on May 6, 2009 12:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
in a TRUE QB competition
I think it would be close between Sage, TJax, and Favre. In a realistic competition, the word competition doesn’t exist, and Favre plays even if he gets frostbite over his entire right arm and loses it in an amputation.
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by TheViking83 on May 6, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm hot and cold on this whole issue
Hot points:
- This team is one QB short of being a near juggernaut on offense. Favre is a HOF QB who was pretty good before the weather got cold last year…
- Minny only plays one cold-weather game outside late in the season this year.
- We have a stout offensive line and the best RB in the game — which is more than Favre’s had since the late 90’s in Green Bay
- I love sticking it to Packer fans. If Minny gets Favre and goes 14-2 while drubbing GB twice while Aaron Rodgers throws 3 picks and gets the Jared Allen treatment it will be great.
- He will put asses in the seats.
Cold Points:
- While he is a great QB, he does have a really nasty habit of throwing up giant stinkbombs in the playoffs. He’s had FIVE games in the playoffs with a passer rating under 60, including that epic 6 INT game against the Rams and not including the pick he threw in OT against the Giants in 2008, his 4 INT game against the Vikes in ‘05, or his heave-ho against the Eagles in 2004. That’s 8 games in which he led his team to a loss based on his personal performance. In terms of top playoff performing QB’s, he’s a long ways down the list. Guys like Marino and Elway lost in the playoffs because their teams weren’t very good. Favre’s teams lost in the playoffs because of his performance a LOT of times. Tom Brady or Joe Montana he is NOT.
- Is his torn biceps healthy? The man HATES surgery, and he hasn’t had any on his arm. If he’s not healthy, when do we know that? When his arm falls off?
- He’s not going to attend preseason mini-camps or anything else. I have a huge problem with this. If All Day is at those, the Brett fucking Favre better be there too. This whole predilection to doing exactly what he wants to do is bullshit. If he wants to stick it to the Pack and Ted Thompson he can show up for mini-camps, take a regular sized locker, and play in pre-season games. Otherwise he can go fly a kite as far as I’m concerned. Show the team you want to be there or don’t show up at all.
- I’m just not sold that he’s that much better than our other options at this point in his career. He had a pretty severe arm injury last year, he seems to be more effected by the cold than he used to, and he’ll be 40 years old by the time the season starts. You can’t bring in Brett Favre and then bench him for Sage Rosenfels. The shit storm would be horrible and every move Childress makes will be picked over with a fine toothed comb when it’s regarding the QB situation.
- He’ll put asses in the seats next year…then what? If we don’t win the Super Bowl we’re right back where we are now, only with one more year of wear and tear on ADP, and closer to our defense being blown up. There’s no good QB’s in next years draft. No good QB’s to trade for that can be had for cheap. This is why we should have traded for Cutler….
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by fourstick on May 6, 2009 12:19 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
No good QBs in next year's draft?
Bradford. McCoy. Tebow(maybe)
I would take Bradford and McCoy over Stafford and Sanchez any day
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 6, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right...
There have been a ton of QB’s who run spread offenses that have had NFL success. Wait…..
Vince Young? No
Any Purdue or Texas Tech QB’s? One, Drew Brees.
Bradford will be a top 5 pick, although Jason White and Josh Huepel sure didn’t set the league on fire did they?
Chase Daniel didn’t even get DRAFTED and he was a Heisman candidate for a lot of the year last year.
I would rather have Mark Sanchez than any of those other guys, and Tebow is probably the most overrated QB in terms of NFL ability. Just watch Percy Harvin’s highlight reel and see how many balls were underthrown or thrown behind the receiver and you’ll see what I mean.
I’ll stand by my statement — there are no good NFL QB’s in next year’s draft. None.
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by fourstick on May 6, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go 4 it Vikes
As a lifetime Packer Fan ol’ #4 brought me the one of the best memories of my life. Sitting in the stands during SBXXXI was a experience I will never forget. I also will never forget that without a good defense and a great running game he was an average QB. There are those who are Favre fans and are still upset with the Packers. True fans bleed Green and Gold not Mississippi Mud,
I look forward to see Favre play for the Vikes. Let Childress fall in love with his new toy and lose track of AP. Let the interceptions start to add up and let the playoffs start for you with a QB that hasn’t done anything this millenium. He may beat GB, but I have full faith and confidence that when the game is on the line he will throw the pick that ends it.
by PackerinTX on May 6, 2009 1:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, then. . .
I also will never forget that without a good defense and a great running game he was an average QB.
It’s a good thing that our running game and our defense are both among the best in the NFL then, huh?
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by Gonzo on May 6, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A BETTER idea than Favre
Maybe Childress should look at a rookie who’s still available, the fans have nothing against, and is proven in college. I, of course, am talking about Graham Harrell. You know, the Texas Tech QB Graham Harrell? The Browns were interested but had 4 guys on the roster? He’s probably better than ROSENFELS or Jackson. Plus, Favre is in the Top 5 “Guys Vikings Fans Can’t Stand” List.
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by TexasTechViking on May 6, 2009 1:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Top 5
is being nice.
He is standing tall at #1, looking down at number 2,3,4 & 5 and they look like tiny ants to him.
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by TheViking83 on May 6, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually...
I think he takes spots 1-5 by himself. If I ever did those “5 people you want to punch in the face” things on Facebook, I’m pretty sure my top 5 would all look the same.
by ericj69 on May 6, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harrel...
I was under the impression he was trying out for someone or signed on somewhere?
No way he’s better than Tarvaris or Sage right now. Maybe in the future, but there’s no way at this point in time.
Leave Harrel be; the Vikings have a project QB in Booty.
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by Manimal on May 6, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personally, I’d take Graham Harrell over JDB
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 6, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You take me as someone
who is really impressed by stats but doesn’t evaluate “ability” all that well.
There’s a reason why spread offense QB’s don’t get drafted and those that do don’t do well in the NFL….
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by fourstick on May 6, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, spread offenses put up huge stats
but you have to have a qb who can make all the throws, as well as read multiple reads ever down. When you have 4 wrs, you have to be able to find the match ups that are favorable. In the Vikings offense, there is usually 2 wrs and a te. doesn’t take much to make those reads
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 6, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually it's much more complicated to make reads
out of a standard pro offense than a spread offense, and here’s why:
- In the spread, most of the reads are going to be pre-snap, not post-snap. You have to make four quick reads post-snap in the NFL, not four take-your-sweet-time reads pre-snap like in high school and college.
- Since the defense is so spread out, it’s easier to read it because it’s hard for college defenses to disguise coverages when they are spread across the field. Not so in the NFL — Coordinators have more time to prep for you and will be ready to make you pay if you can’t make pre-snap adjustments and quick post-snap reads.
- A spread QB generally knows where the ball is going before the ball is ever snapped, based on his initial read of the defense. NFL coordinators spend tons of time disguising defenses so that initially it looks like man coverage when it might be zone coverage or running combo coverages of man and zone with different packages of personnel. This is part of the reason that you’re seeing more and more teams go to the 3-4 defense: It’s easier to disguise coverages with only three down lineman who are committed to a spot on the field pre-snap. Belichick confused Peyton Manning for years by adjusting at the snap of the ball to his Peyton’s pre-snap adjustments or playing totally vanilla defense until right before the snap and then moving players right at the snap of the ball.
- You don’t have to have a QB that can make “all the throws” in the spread in college because you’re rarely having to throw to receivers that aren’t open. Even the best defenses in the country can’t cover 4 or 5 WR every down all day and not give you some place to throw the ball. The throws you have to make in the spread are the slant, the out, the skinny post, and the WR screen. The offense is predicated on YAC, so getting the ball out quick and letting your receivers make plays is the name of the game.
- Most QB’s who run a spread offense have a difficult time adjusting to the transition of being under center on 3/4 of the plays run and having to make reads while dropping back in the pocket. This is why you see a lot of NFL coaches putting young QB’s in the shotgun: It’s easier to make reads from there because you can focus on doing just that, then turning and throwing.
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by fourstick on May 7, 2009 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+2 for the Dennis Miller reference
Good analysis and comparison!
by DCPurple on May 7, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From my understanding
he had a rookie tryout for the Browns, but was not signed. If none of the top football minds in the world want him, can he really be any good??
I doubt it.
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by TheViking83 on May 6, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He tried out for the Browns, and they “liked him” but didn’t give him a contract. If the Browns turned him away, he’s definitely not better than Jackson or Rosenfels.
by Frost on May 6, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You also have to keep in mind, the Brownies already have 4 QBs on their roster.
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by Dane Noble on May 6, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, and he apparently wasn’t better than their 4th string. Which means he’s definitely not going to be better than our first stringers unless the Browns have the next Brady hiding there.
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