Mercenaries-R-Us

by MilCardFan on May 5, 2009 8:01 PM CDT Comment 52 comments

Let’s put our cards on the table here when it comes to Brett Favre and his desire to come to Minnesota. His reason for playing isn’t to play for the Vikings, it’s to play against the Packers. He hates Ted Thompson. He wants to stick it up Ted Thompson’s ass and break it off. Sideways. Twice. His is a completely selfish and mercenarial reason to come to Minnesota.

Brad Childress needs to win and make a deep playoff run to keep his job, at least I think so. He’s had incrementally better seasons in three years, and with solid drafting, smart trades, and good free agent acquisitions, the Vikings are poised to be able to do that. Except that they need a proven quarterback to take them on that run. Childress has said that he likes his quarterback situation, but Favre at age 40 is still better than Sagevaris Jacksonfels. So if he were to sign Favre, it would be for one reason and one reason only: To try and win the Super Bowl and prove he is as smart as he claims to be. His is a completely selfish and mercenarial reason to bring Favre to Minnesota.

Zygi Wilf needs a new stadium to keep the Vikings viable in the state of Minnesota. He has Adrian Peterson and little else. He needs that elusive ‘buzz’, and a guy like Favre with the NFC North backdrop is something that cannot be ignored. Would it be enough to finagle financing for a new stadium out of the State Legislature? Maybe, maybe not. Either way, his is a completely selfish and mercenarial reason to bring Favre to Minnesota.

As my good buddy Luft Krigare pointed out in his blog, I was all about Favre coming to Minnesota last season, but I have some reservations this year. But the bottom line is simple:

Do I want the Vikings to essentially hire a mercenary who excelled on a team I can’t stand come in and lead the team that I have loved since birth, and go all out to try and win a Super Bowl?

Yes.

Once I separate the facts from the emotion, the fact for me is this: Brett Favre, as long as he is healthy, is better than Sagevaris Jacksonfels, and all the hand-wringing I have about team chemistry will be rendered moot on the first Favre to Harvin touchdown pass.

But that's just me.

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The way I see it, Favre will not lead us to the Super Bowl, and so I do not want him.

In AP I trust

by FarvaForTheVikings on May 5, 2009 8:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

But he has a better chance to do it than with TJ or Rosie

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by MilCardFan on May 5, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

The Vikes need a Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, or Ben Roethlisberger for a SB to be a legitimate reality. Honestly until the Vikes find a real franchise QB, we aren’t winning the SB, but of course I pray & hope this may be the year.

However the Vikes may be so talented the rest of the team could carry a not so good QB to the SB, but recent history has not looked kindly at that.

by solafide on May 5, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Question: How many franchise QBs are out there?

Mannings, Brady, Roethlisberger and then it just sort of drops off to guys that have never won anything. I know what you are getting at but I can’t completely agree. I mean Kurt Warner at his age was one defensive stop away from winning another Super Bowl. I wouldn’t call Warner a franchise QB but I would say he’s better than average.

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by mjschaefer on May 6, 2009 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Warner >Favre

This is how tired I’m getting of this. I’ve resorted to math equations instead of words to get my point across.

In AP I trust
Brett Favre should go die somwhere

by FarvaForTheVikings on May 6, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed.

by Frost on May 6, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I WOULD call Warner a franchise QB. You’ll notice that unlike Cutler, Arizona had no plans of letting him get away. Despite the fact that they wound up paying him a lot more than they felt comfortable with. And I also agree Warner>Favre, and I’ll add Warner>Favre>Cutler.

by newmexvike on May 6, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

HAHAHA...

I really hope you understand how incredibly screwed up your logic is. After seeing some of your posts on this site I’ve come to the conclusion that you just spew gibberish out of your mouth for the sake of hearing yourself talk.

You’ll notice that unlike Cutler, Arizona had no plans of letting him get away

Umm don’t really think Denver planned to give Cutler away, their brand new coach screwed up monumentally and had to stick by his words in order to save his ass. Also, you can’t call a 50 year old man (Warner) a franchise QB anymore. He may have been for a brief time with the Rams but not anymore. That’s why the only other team to pursue him was the 49’ers. He may give the Cards the best chance to win right now, but I highly doubt he’s the person they’re building their future around. And not to mention the fact that Warner has only been a good QB when he had great receivers around him (Holt/Bruce and Fitzgerald/Boldin), look how great he did in his stint up in NY with no one to throw it to (except Toomer maybe).

And finally, anyone who thinks that Favre is better than Cutler at this point in his career is completely delusional! I wouldn’t even put Favre in the top 15 quarterbacks next season and there’s no way he’s taking anyone to the Super Bowl. He may come back and get his revenge on the Pack but at what cost. You don’t honestly believe he can lead the Vikings to a better record last year, in fact I’d guess a 9-7 record at best and that would be with winning in spite of him rather than because of him.

I’ll gladly admit to you that I’m a Bears fan and honestly couldn’t care less whether or not the Vikings sign Favre. In fact I wouldn’t mind one bit because that would most definitely mean that you guys would be tied for the worst (if not the worst) QB in the NFC North. I just can’t continue reading your uninformed posts when any sane person who watches the NFL knows that Favre is done and should just be content in his retirement.

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 6, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I only have an opinion on one thing regarding your post:

Your Kenny Powers profile pic and quotes give you instant credibility with me.

by ericj69 on May 6, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

lmao

That’s why I have it, that’s the first and last thing people see when they see my comments so it usually helps. Guess that’s one thing even Bears and Vikings fan can agree on lol

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 6, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you again??

>>Umm don’t really think Denver planned to give Cutler away….

really? so it just happened without them knowing about it? Oh wait, I see, the new Coach screwed up. Yeah, that’s why they traded him. That is ridiculous. Denver was not forced to do anything. If Cutler was half as good as you think he is, Denver would have said, “Jay you’re under contract and you’re not going anywhere.” Fact, Denver chose to trade him away. Fact, franchise players almost never get traded in the NFL.

Your opinion of Cutler is blown WAY out of proportion. But it’s not really your fault, every off-season there are players traded that people expect big things from. This rarely pans out for them in football however. Usually there is a reason they’re being dumped off. I hope you come back here mid season to evaluate this little theory.

Warner got a huge contract from a very stingy franchise (up there with CHI and PHIL). Enough said.

Name one credible NFL analyst that says Favre is washed up. All the ones I hear (Dilfer and Mark Schlerith come to mind) say Favre can still get it gone when healthy. You are a true fan, implication being that your opinion is far from reality.

Bring on the season!!!!

by newmexvike on May 6, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yup and i keep coming back...

really? so it just happened without them knowing about it?

Do you honestly believe that the Broncos went into this offseason thinking, “hmm lets shake things up a bit, what do u guys say we trade cutler?” No way in hell that happened, and what more could they have done? He seemed prepared to skip the whole damn season if he had to so the organization had to save face and pretend like they were still in charge of the situation. Fact, At that point either Cutler had to go or the coach they hired about a month before did, and they made their decision.

Your opinion of Cutler is blown WAY out of proportion

Oh really, and how is that? I never said I expect him to come out and have an MVP like season. I’m just as willing as everyone else to wait and see how he does his first year. I haven’t even said he’s top 5, while you’re willing to anoint Brett Favre as the savior who finally brings a super bowl ring to Minnesota. So looking at that, whose opinion would you say is blown out of proportion? Yea, I thought so.

Warner got a huge contract from a very stingy franchise (up there with CHI and PHIL). Enough said.

Yea but that doesn’t change the fact that no one else besides the 49er’s wanted him in the first place. Everyone else in the league realizes that he’s past his prime and the only direction he can go from here is down.

All the ones I hear (Dilfer and Mark Schlerith come to mind) say Favre can still get it gone when healthy.

And the key to that statement is when healthy, which is a lot to expect from a 40 year old who has played 18 years or so (and more counting college/high school) of one of the most violent games on the planet with an arthritic thumb on his throwing hand, a shoulder that was hanging on by a thread by the end of last year, and a bicep that needs surgery (even though he won’t get it because he’s too damn stubborn.

Bottom line is that, as I’ve mentioned countless times before: 1) Favre is NO ONE’S savior at this point in his career, 2) He isn’t taking anyone to the Super Bowl this year or any time soon, 3) The Vikings talking to him shows how weak your teams QB’s really are and the lack of trust the organization has in them (sure looks good for the future don’t it) and finally, 4) You have an unnatural, and borderline obsessive, love for bringing Jay Cutler into every single conversation you have because you think it makes you look smart when you compare people to him when in face you look so desperate.

Why don’t you just come out of the closet and admit you love Jay Cutler and you would love nothing more for him to be your organizations QB of the future. Go ahead, you know you wanna. Save yourself and everyone else the hassle of having to listen to your mindless/pointless drivel.

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 6, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually, I think they did go into the offseason thinking about trading Cutler, since they were going to ship him to Tampa Bay in order to get Cassel. That wasn’t too far into the offseason when Cassel was traded. And I do find it highly unlikely he’d have sat out the entire season. Pretty sure there’s something like a $16k fine or some riduculous number like that for not showing up to practices and whatnot. Daily. That’s why Chad Johnson went to camp last year, even though he wanted to be traded just as badly as Cutler.

I mean, honestly, Cutler was never in control of the situation. Ever. He’s a player. The team gets to do whatever the hell they want with him. If he’s going to sit out a whole season, they can just suck him dry with fines. And I doubt that, if they hadn’t traded Cutler, they’d have gotten rid of McDaniels. That just seems dumb to hire him and then fire him just because the QB gets pissy about him.

by Frost on May 6, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Are you messing with me?

They obviously didn’t think that much of Cutler, they were willing to trade him. What exactly had he done (besides throw 70 yards) that would make them that excited? 2.5 years of mediocre performances on a pass happy team. And we’ll never know if he would have eaten the money and sat out the season. It would not be the first bluff a player made and did not follow thru on.

Only the Cards and Niners wanted Warner??? Come on man. You’ve got to be kidding. Warner said that he wanted to return to Arizona. Teams aren’t gonna chase that down and come back to their fans empty handed. The Niners pursued him because they are in the same division. If they get Warner, they needed a starter, if they don’t, they put the squeeze to the Cards. I think they knew all along he was going to resign, they just wanted to up the ante. Had Warner said he wanted to test the market, I’m sure there would have been takers.

>>3) The Vikings talking to him shows how weak your teams QB’s really are

yet they didn’t go after Cutler, hmmm

>>Why don’t you just come out of the closet and admit you love Jay Cutler and >>you would love nothing more for him to be your organizations QB of the >>future. Go ahead, you know you wanna. Save yourself and everyone else >>the hassle of having to listen to your mindless/pointless drivel.

You realize you can view my profile and see that I objected to the idea that the Vikes pursue Cutler. I never wanted that big baby to come to Minnesota. Obviously, some fans were campaigning for it, but I think the next Jeff George landed in the perfect place, enjoy.

by newmexvike on May 6, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

HAHA whatever you say

Still don’t have much but the same old tired crap to say over and over again so I’m just gonna leave it at that. And for your info the Vikings were on of the first teams to pursue him until they pulled out of the race, but it sure wasn’t because they weren’t interested. Yea I’m sure they were just hoping and praying that Brett Favre would fall into their laps and save the day.

And you really don’t seem to understand the concept, if they could’ve avoided I’m sure the Broncos would’ve preferred to keep Cutler, but at that point either him or McDaniels had to go and they would look pretty damn stupid if they fired their new coach about a month after hiring him. His colossal mistake was our monumental gain and as you alluded to below, you’ll be eating a whole lotta shit when Cutler proves to be the class of the NFC North.

Now I’m done with this because it gets to be tiring and frustrating to try and explain these things to someone who most definitely doesn’t understand the game of football (kinda like teaching a kid to tie their shoe: they try and try but they don’t get it and u get frustrated but u stick it out because that’s the only way they’ll learn). So I wish you all the best of luck with the Favre-o-rama and peace out.

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 6, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Get your facts straight

Vikings were one of the original teams involved in the 3 way trade for Denver to get Cassel and Minn to get Cutler. Except Vikings pulled out because they didn’t like what they saw in Cutler

by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 6, 2009 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yup...

I’m sure that’s what it was. He clearly wasn’t good enough to continue the long, rich tradition of great Vikings QB’s before him. Probably not even good enough to start over T-Jax and Rosenfails. You’re so right, I now see the error of my ways.

//end sarcasm

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 6, 2009 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Check out this link

http://gridironfans.com/forums/latest-nfl-headlines/92767-vikings-pulled-out-cutler-trade-talks-last-month.html

Now say something

by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 7, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I really wish people would read previous posts before jumping into a convo...

And for your info the Vikings were on of the first teams to pursue him until they pulled out of the race

I agree that they pulled out of the race. However saying some of the coached weren’t sold on him sounds like ownership saying, “hey guys this is starting to cost a little too much for us, make some excuse so we can drop out of this race and still look good to our fans”. And I’m sure they’re all so sold on Favre because he’s sure to be great, especially with the amount of money he’s gonna want to come back. Please, give me a break.

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 7, 2009 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

whatever helps you sleep at night bro

by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 7, 2009 1:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Like a baby :)

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 7, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And another thing...

The fact that you keep referring to Cutler in every single post of yours just to bash him (especially when the whole argument doesn’t include Cutler) makes you seem very petty and quite frankly somewhat envious. Not a single person before you even mentioned Cutler’s name, but yet that’s the one consistent thing that you have to talk about all over this whole site. How very very sad…

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 6, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you sniffed me out. I think the best way for your QB to establish himself as a leader is to squabble with the other team’s QB much like Cutler did with Rivers, and then can’t back it up with decent play. Instant credibility. And if that means giving up 2 1sts, a 3rd, and a QB, well then let’s getter dun!

I point out Cutler because I know you’re lurking around this site. That’s smart. I wonder if you give the same attention to the Lion’s site? No? I wonder why? Better yet, why don’t I waste my time on your Bear’s page?

by newmexvike on May 6, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Come on by to our site

so you can see what an intelligent post looks like. And actually yes I do go around to about 8 other sites because I’m a fan of the sport and like to get different opinions.

I think the best way for your QB to establish himself as a leader is to squabble with the other team’s QB much like Cutler did with Rivers, and then can’t back it up with decent play

Really, Rivers did just as much crap talking and yet people consider him and Cutler to be among the top up and coming QB’s in the league. They must be wrong though because that obviously shows what a petulant prima donna he is. The Chargers should look to trade him immediately, that way maybe the Vikings can pick him up so you can shut up when you see what a real QB looks like as opposed to the trash currently on the roster. And decent play? How do you define that? Is over 4000 yards and a pro bowl season at the age of 25 up to your standards? He’s only been in the league 3 years and his star is pointing way way up, sorry you can’t say the same about T-Jax and Rosenfails.

And if that means giving up 2 1sts, a 3rd, and a QB, well then let’s getter dun!

Yea I’d much rather trade a first and two thirds for a DE, that’s probably much better value than a QB. And besides the Broncos traded that first round pick in 2010 for a second this year so can’t really count that one can we. And yea the QB was kinda the whole point of the trade, we had to give up the old one in order to get a new one. That’s generally how that works.

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 6, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The difference is our Defense really just needed that pass rushing specialist to be great. And it was, as we saw. The Bears have more holes than just QB on offense. But I don’t understand how you think that the Broncos trading your first rounder next year doesn’t count. You don’t get it back because they traded it. You’re still going to be missing a first rounder next year.

by Frost on May 6, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

we didn’t give up 2 firsts and I’d say it worked out already. You might want to stick to picking on out QBs, because you sound silly saying the Jared Allen deal wasn’t good for the Vikes.

If Jay Cutler throws for 4000 yards and makes the Pro-bowl in Chicago, I’ll eat a turd.

by newmexvike on May 6, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I now want him to do that, just so you follow up on your statement. But, of course, I want the Bears to miss the playoffs in that scenario.

by Frost on May 6, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

BTW – who else made the pro bowl at QB last year?

by newmexvike on May 6, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

HAHA really?

And that was by far the biggest joke of the year, no way in hell he deserved it.

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 6, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

BTW I didn't say you gave up 2 firsts...

If you go back and read (I know, it’s a difficult concept but I’ll walk you through it) I said a first and two thirds. And also I didn’t say that wasn’t a good deal, but if I’m going to be spending that much (or in our case a little more) then I would much prefer it go towards shoring up the most important position in all of pro sports (and if you didn’t catch my meaning, that would be the QB and not the DE).

And send me your address so I’ll know where to send my bag of crap when the season’s over. Make sure you record it too, that’ll go over great on youtube.

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 6, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How to define decent QB play?

How about winning one of 4 games to send your team into the playoffs? How about winning anything in college? How about a winning season in the NFL? I don’t care how many yards or TDs a QB throws, as long as the team as a whole wins games and makes it to the playoffs

by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 6, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How about

he went to a school that is much more invested in its academics rather than its sports teams, can’t fault him for losing close games with one of the shittiest defenses in the league. His record splits show that he’s like 18-1 I believe it was when his defense holds the opposing team under 21 points so ya can’t really fault him for that. And regardless he’s still better than anything currently, or pretty much ever for that matter, on the Vikings (besides a good year or two from culpepper and one from that other guy before him whoever he was). So please don’t try and tell me what a decent QB is when 1) you guys have never seen one before and 2) you don’t do a little research first so you don’t end up looking stupid.

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 6, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You're a dumbass

I never said the Vikings have a good QB. I would take Cutler over what the Vikings have. But that doesn’t make him a good or a great QB. Cutler went to Vanderbuilt. I wonder why? Maybe it was because he wasn’t good enough in high school to get a scholarship at a decent football school.

Yes, Cutler has a good record when the other team doesn’t score more than 21 points in a game. What a shocker! Do you know what teams scored less than 21 points a game last season? Jacksonville, Seattle, Kansas City, Detroit, Washington, Oakland, Cleveland, St. Louis, and Cincinnati. Wow. Some powerhouses in there. Actually, for a QB to go 18-11 against these teams actually says how poor of a QB he actually is.

Don’t forget, Chicago gave up 22 points a game last season. And they are now another year older. Who did they pick up to inject some youth? O yeah, they sold their draft for a QB.

How are those facts for you?

by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 7, 2009 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hmm very nice try, really a great effort...

Talk to our OC (who was U of I’s head coach at the time), Cutler actually had himself a scholarship there but went with Vandy for whatever reason. And btw that says 18-1 not 18-11, that changes it a little don’t ya think. And we sold our draft? We still had 9 picks overall and 5 of the first 7 on defense. That could be viewed as a little youth injection I think.

And name calling, really? What are we in the 3rd grade? At least come up with something better than dumbass, make it a little creative.

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 7, 2009 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You did have 9 picks

from what? the 3rd round on? Doesn’t sound very impressive to me. I guess we’ll just have to see when the season starts.

by PurplePeopleEaters09 on May 7, 2009 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

AGREE

by vikefansd on May 5, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

what????

look man, I get it, you’re a loyal Viking fan to a fault. Favre is the spawn of satin because he was a Packer. Silly that you would eliminate players based on where they used to play, but whatever. We get that you don’t want him coming to Minnesota.

But, look at it objectively. Do you honestly think his skills are that much behind him? Remember how he was doing when the Jets were 8-3? At that time, I thought the Jets might make a serious run in the AFC. And that’s saying something with NE, PITT, IND, and the rest. He was on fire, then he got hurt. There was no one else in New York that could have taken them into the playoffs, so he continued to play. If that were the Vikings, at some point, option B would be a possibility. And even if he didn’t play the whole year, he would still be an asset from the sidelines.

But the point is, when healthy, Favre is still a winner. If you don’t think Favre can take them to the Super Bowl, you either think this team is a lot worse than I do, or you’re letting your Viking pride get in the way of logic. He was carrying that Jet team and he wouldn’t have to do that for the Vikes. It is silly to think he slipped that much in one year.

by newmexvike on May 5, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The point is...

this is professional sports and the leadership of any team, if given an open window to increase their chances of winning NOW will take it!

by solafide on May 5, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry guys, you aren’t going to change my mind. I would rather have Gus and Brad Johnson back then see a washed-up Favre on my team.

In AP I trust

by FarvaForTheVikings on May 5, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I rather see the Vikings win...

… Favre on the Vikings just makes me laugh, can this really be happening? It’s not under my control, but following the Vikings no matter what is under my control, and I’m still a fan even if #4 plays QB for us.

by solafide on May 5, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh I’ll still be a fan. But if, God forbid, he does end up on our team, there will be a sharp pain in my chest every time his ugly face pops up on the TV screen. Which would happen a lot.

In AP I trust
Brett Favre should go die somwhere

by FarvaForTheVikings on May 5, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

our vikes need someone who can read and respond to what the other teams are throwing at us .jackson didnt know if he was afoot or horse back in or last game vs eagles

new york viking

by new york viking on May 5, 2009 10:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

How many times have we been down this road?

A washed up QB who only has a few years left tops. If he doesn’t win the Superbowl it will be a complete wash and put us back. I would rather stick with Tjack, he started to play pretty well at the end of last season.

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by BeardedAxe on May 6, 2009 8:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

How will it put us back? Because it gives Jackson an extra season to mature, or Rosenfels an extra season to grasp the offensive scheme? Right now, Favre gives us the best chance at a deep post-season run, barring a miraculous transformation from Jackson or Rosenfels.

by Frost on May 6, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It puts them back because the team should be moving a year ahead by playing with what is on the roster. Instead, they are staying put and next year, when Farve (if he does in fact join the Vikings) leaves, they will be in the same spot they are now, only a year into the future. You can’t stop time, it keeps moving forward while the problems stay the same. At least if Jackson plays this year, it can be put to rest whether or not he can be counted on to be a starter. Farve is Fool’s Gold or a subprime mortgage, looks great, but doesn’t work out like you hope.

by vikingfuture8816 on May 6, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think another season for Jackson to mature is just what he needs.

by Frost on May 6, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

agreed

and both T-Jack and/or Sage will learn a boatload from Favre.

by newmexvike on May 6, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Doubt that one, actually. He isn’t the mentor type.

by Frost on May 6, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Favre? Yuck, might as well bring back Jeff George then if you want an immobile cannon for a QB, at least he has a healthy arm.

by BacksThePack on May 6, 2009 12:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

what a surprise, thanks buddy.

by newmexvike on May 6, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Warner < Farve

In this Offense ~~—Warner would need his 15 throws to warm up -~~ at least this way Farve can Play Action Pass fake to AD and stand there until Harvin comes across the field….<towards you Brett, ****ing not cross field>

by majinman on May 6, 2009 1:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Chilress

Brad’s behavior over this offseason suggests to me, not only that his job is on the line this year, but it appears that Zygi Wilf may have told him as much. His risk/reward move to grab Percy Harvin in the first round is nothing compared to the risk/reward that Favre represents. He is going all in, putting his cards on the table and walking away to wait for the river card. He already made one coach cash out last year, will Favre do it again?

by Cobra312004 on May 7, 2009 1:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs