Favregeddon: The Locker Room Factor
I found Marcellus Wiley's take on Favregeddon to be pretty interesting -- not necessarily the first part of the video, which mainly deals with an ESPN report of a deadline we now know to be nonexistent, but go ahead and skip to the 1:40 mark to see Wiley call this circus an "indictment on Brad Childress."
It's a compelling case to make: That the longer this goes on, the more Chilly risks losing the locker room. Forget the potential locker room hazards of bringing Favre into the mix or the problems that might arise from having a quarterback on the roster who isn't terribly engaged with the rest of the locker room -- what about the loss of credibility Chilly might experience? Does continuing the dance make him less credible in the eyes of the players?
I think it does. You might get away with sending mixed signals to the locker room in March, but this is June. One of three guys might be the starting quarterback this September -- and because of the tremendous number of unanswered questions that still remain, could the players start getting fed up with an inconsistent coach? Absolutely.
What do you think? Is Chilly legitimately in danger of a locker room meltdown if this continues much longer?
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The Damage is Done
I don’t believe that anything that happens in the next few weeks will have any impact on the locker room whatsoever. If there are players who are upset because the perceive Favre as skipping out on the OTA’s, then that damage is already done. The real key, in my opinion, is that once training camp starts the debate is settled. F-word needs to either be in or be out at that point. He cannot be allowed to waltz in 2 or 3 weeks after training camp starts and be annointed the teams savior. That will destroy the team’s chemistry. The men in the locker are all well aware of Favre’s antics in the past, realize he has had a recent surgery and most certainly expected nothing to happen during the OTA’s. If the players thought differently they were being foolish. In my mind training camp is the deadline and anything allowed to drag on past that is what will start dividing the locker room.
It's good to be King!
by The King on Jun 11, 2009 12:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Complete and Utter Crap
There was no ultimatum to Brett Favre. Neither Favre nor Chilly has ever said that there was.
Brett Favre just had surgery on his arm. How would he be at OTA’s? Has Asher Allen been at OTA’s? Hell no.
What would Favre be doing at OTAs if he were there? I’ll tell you what: There would have been a bazillion reporters there, either interviewing and drooling over Favre or asking insulting, made-up questions of Sage and Taravaris, like. “Tarvaris, is it true that Chilly once said that your mother smells bad?” They ask that stuff to create trouble,
The reporters would be creating a circus scene, which is exactly what they are doing now, even though they have no one who talks to them but mysteriously unnamed sources . It’s not Chilly or Favre who are making disruptive announcements. It’s a bunch of people trying to start fights so they can have something to talk about in their otherwise boring and unread columns and talking head shows.
It is the job of media to create a circus. It is the job of player to execute plays.
Don’t be a sucker. Ray Lewis is not going to tell you how to be a better running back.
There are only four players impacted by this, and all of them play quarterback. Probably J. D. has the most to lose, but is anyone claiming that the loss of Mr. Booty will cost the Vikings the title? Tarvaris went through this same thing last year. The biggest thing hurting his career at the moment is not an ancient, wounded quarterback, it is having thrown a pick-six in the playoff game. He’s going to outlast Favre. Sage may be ticked, but what was he going to be doing in Houston, holding a gilded clip board?
Has Zygi announced he’s going to build a 40 million dollar expansion at Winter Park for Brett’s private, luxury locker facillity? No.
I’ve played on a team with players whom I hated. That did not stop me from doing my job well and keeping my eyes on the prize: the team winning. When I got mad at that SOB, I took in out on some poor sap on the other team. That is how one plays football.
Anyone trying to insunuate that there ought to be a disruption in the locker room should be taken out behind the woodshed.
This is professional sports, folks, not Pee Wee Football.
by Elgar on Jun 11, 2009 2:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No, I don’t think continuing this hurts the locker room. You’re never going to get an entire locker room to agree on something like this. There’s going to be players that want Favre, and there’s going to be players that think Jackson or Sage are a better answer. One of those two sides is going be forced to reconcile with the other. Its not going to be a meltdown. It will be more of a “Whatever, shit happened, move on and focus on winning.”
by Frost on Jun 11, 2009 5:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is it
I hope after this year, Childress is canned.
by PurpleEaters on Jun 11, 2009 6:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you at least 98 percent
Even I would want him back if Tarvaris Jackson became a true superstar who led the team to a Super Bowl win (or even game managed them to the big one). I’m feeling generous today, so I’ve rounded up to 2% likelihood of that happening.
by KC Viking on Jun 11, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
glad to see your starting to come around!
by iseepurplepeople on Jun 12, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Childress has been very consistent
…at calling for runs up the middle and telegraphing “PASS PLAY” by subbing in Chester Taylor. He and Bevell have consistently thrown short of the 1st down marker on 3rd downs, too. Childress has irritated at least one key player each year (Marcus Robinson, then the leader in receiving TDs; Williamson in ’07 and TJ in ’08 as stated in the video plus the undercurrent related to little TJ) with unfair and/or retaliatory measures plus a few other outbursts (including Winfield) and poorly mismanaged uses of talent (Mewelde Moore).
The Favre circus and the acquisitions of Rosenfels, Holcomb, Bollinger, Thigpen, John David Booty and Frerotte are indictments of Childress’s inability to scout, draft, and develop talented QBs. That was supposedly his main area of strength.
Although they are professionals, I would not be surprised if the locker room splits along QB loyalties—and most likely against Childress if they lose more than 1 of their first 5 games. I’m sure the players are capable of being on the same team as guys they don’t like or disagree with on fundamental levels, but there is also a tremendous amount of extra pressure on them to win for the organization and community and, most of all, the constant pressure of achieving the most for themselves each day of their short NFL careers for the sake of their next big payday. If a coach’s schemes and systems and playcalling seem to be standing between a player or players and millions of dollars, then of course there will be a purple sea of mutiny.
by KC Viking on Jun 11, 2009 7:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone want BF other than the VIKES?
If BF announced he was ready to play football for any NFL team, who would want him? On talant and experience alonge , the Vikings and about 4-7 other teams. Not only do the Vikes need BF because they have no quality QB, but BF needs the Vikes, because frankly there are not too many teams that would want a 40 year old BF Add the cost and the headache of BF being on your team and you could probably make that number 2-4 teams with one of them being Oakland (so does that one really count?).
by ZygiZag on Jun 12, 2009 12:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m not too sure about that, lots of people still think he can get it done.
And he does not need the Vikes. He wants to play for the Vikes, but we have very little leverage over him. He can basically do whatever the hell he wants.
In AP I trust
Just say no to Favre.
by FarvaForTheVikings on Jun 12, 2009 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except...
If he wants to play, the Vikings are basically the only team he wants to play for or will allow him to play for. No one else is lining up to recruit him for their team.
I’d say that’s some leverage, though Minnesota is definitely not using it. They’re letting him do whatever he wants, despite the fact that the Metrodome is his one stop shop this year.
As far as I know, no other team has had any interest in him. I could be wrong, but with the insane amount of coverage, you’d think that would’ve come up by now.
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by Manimal on Jun 12, 2009 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meltdown
The best way to guarantee a locker room meltdown is to keep Chilly as the head coach. Mangini would have been sweet. Watch how he handles the QB situation in Cleveland (not team vs. team, Browns are junk) throughout the season vs. how Chilly makes a worse mess of an already bad situation that he created by not being able to stick with a guy who has a winning record at quarterback. New coach in 2010, wooo hooo!!! Let’s just hope it’s not the return of Mike Tice and his pencil.
by TheChadK on Jun 13, 2009 12:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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