Favre's effect on your 2009 season (if he comes)
I’m kind of hesitant to ask this but I’m going to anyways. A lot of people have questioned whether or not the Bears getting Cutler really will help them because of their wr play. I think it’s fair to ask the same question to you guys if you get Favre. I think the Bears wr core and your teams wr core are kind of similar.
Berrian is a good deep threat but that’s about all he is at this point. Wade is at best a #3 wr in this league. Rice could be good, but he seems to always be injured. I think in 2-3 years Harvin will be good, but at this point he is too raw. Shiancoe is good too, though he has had problems with catching in the past.
I think Hester is virtually the same wr that Berrian is. I don’t think he was as good as him last year, but I believe he will be this year. Rashied Davis is ok. He is a good route runner, but he is kind of slow and old. Earl Bennett is a young guy with potential but he has yet to prove himself. Iglesias seems to be the perfect fit for a slot guy but we will have to wait and see. Greg Olsen is very good young tight end. I think the addition of Cutler will help him a ton and consequently I think he will have a breakout this year. Desmond Clark is a solid tight end as well.
I’m interested to get your take on what Favre’s arrival will do for your receiving core, please share your thoughts!
This FanPost was created by a registered user of The Daily Norseman, and does not necessarily reflect the views of the staff of the site. However, since this is a community, that view is no less important.
0 recs |
48 comments
Comments
I’m expecting similar numbers for the recievers this year. Though possibly more catches for each one, since we will, hopefully, be more focused in the rungame.
by Frost on Jun 29, 2009 4:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hello Frost
Can you give me. . .a lowly lions fan . . .a little more clarity on what you just stated it doesn’t make sence to me. Yo state that you should have similar #’s but in the same breath you talk about the Running game being more of a focus. . .How does one get you to the other?
by davis0169 on Jun 29, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe he will provide some confidence to our current receivers. They know Favre is a playmaker, so they will be inspired to step up their game, knowing that throws will be coming. There have been alot of great WRs in GB over the last 13 years, and as each one got hurt, another looked great in his place (starting from the days of Sterling Sharpe). I think it is more than coincidence that WRs become very good around him.
Wade is experienced, so I don’t see much change in him. He will still be a clutch player. Berrian will definitely put up better numbers, as the main receiver. Rice will probably also have a 100+ receiving game here and there…just not every game. Who am I forgetting?
by Lofoten on Jun 29, 2009 4:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Who am I forgetting?
Harvin.
In AP I trust
Just say no to Favre.
F-A-R-V-A =/= F-A-V-R-E
by FarvaForTheVikings on Jun 29, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, Harvin called in sick, so he wasn’t counted in the WR list, hehe.
Actually, I can’t comment on Harvin, as I am not sure just how he will fill in, and think that it won’t matter who is QB when it comes to his actions.
by Lofoten on Jun 30, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good points
Having a good QB who receivers know is capable definitely helps. I agree he will give them confidence but that can only improve them so much. They need to have the skill and ability to get it done.
I would like to know people’s thoughts on Harvin and the impact you guys think he will make as a WR.
by packallday555 on Jun 29, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he will be a playmaker, much like Reggie Bush. This guy has the talent to be used anywhere and this will play with opposing defense’s strategies.
What I am hoping to see the most from him is lining up in the slot. If he starts tearing up the middle of the field, that will force the defense to react and pucker up a bit. Drawing them in will give a chance for Rice and BB to make their catches down the field one-on-one. Wade usually does decent slot-work, but he doesn’t have the extra step and those extra moves to make big things out of small catches.
by Lofoten on Jun 30, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
I was just curious what Vikings fans thought about what Harvin will do in your offense, or at least what you hope he will do. I could see him being like bush. He could be very effective doing that.
by packallday555 on Jun 30, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sad
I remember you saying you had been a Packer’s fan for 30 years. That would then indicate that you have to be older then 30. If you were telling the truth about that then I feel very sorry for you. Your behavior and most of your posts remind me of something a 16 year old would do. You seem to be very immature and childish. I am only 18 years old and really can’t fathom ever posting the same thing over and over again 15 times, and the sad thing is your over 30 years old. I feel very sorry for you. Hopefully you grow up sometime soon.
by packallday555 on Jun 29, 2009 5:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he's still
detoxifying from all that cheap Wisconsin beer.
by newmexvike on Jun 29, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll say this the Vikings WR’s are all better then the Bears so is our RB’s. I think adding Favre would greatly increase production from all of them including the RB’s otherwise whats the point? Anyway Berrian is a great deep threat if we have Favre on the team who’s known for getting it deep to recievers. Sidney Rice I’m not high on but if hes gonna step-up it will be this year. As for Shiancoe he did awesome last year made big plays everyday. But the real factor could be Harvin our Adrian Peterson of wideouts. I think the Vikings are the best team in the division just to much talent adding Favre gives another dimension to the offense – consistent ability to pass.
"If at first you don't succeed - Skydiving isn't for you"
by Zoxide on Jun 29, 2009 5:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Favre actually
Struggles with throwing the deep ball. A lot of his long passes were a result of Driver and Jennings making people miss. His arm is so strong and it tends to hurt him on the long bombs. He throws to much of a line drive, and really misses people a lot on deep balls.
by packallday555 on Jun 29, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 Packallday
And I know you have been following what I’ve been saying about Favre indoors and that just adds to it.
by davis0169 on Jun 29, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're wrong
about the Viking WRs
Berrian is a better WR than Hester. He’s faster and taller. He’s a legit #1 that stretches the field.
Rice has not been hurt all the time. He has played 2 years so far. His rookie year was slow to start, but by the end he was coming on. In his second year he got hurt and never really came back. If he has recovered, he will be a great #2 and an awesome red zone target to boot.
Harvin is the other unknown. But there are a lot of guys that follow college football that think he will be explosive.
Wade is a #3, but a good one. He doesn’t have size or speed, but he’s got great hands.
Shiancoe and don’t forget Chester Taylor are a couple other good options as well.
I think that make the Vikes pretty deep. In a pinch we really only need Rice OR Harvin to pan out, but my guess is we get both.
The Bears don’t have depth, Davis or Bennett would be lucky to be a #4 on the Vikings. Olsen shows potential, but not as a #2 WR. And even Hester is kind of a weak #1.
I know you’re trying to rattle our cages saying they are the same quality, but either you don’t follow the Vikes very close, or you have no idea what talent looks like.
by newmexvike on Jun 29, 2009 5:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If thats the case
then MY lions still have the greatest rec in the game with Charlie Rodgers and Roy Williams on the outside. Just kidding ofcourse, Just like the guys over in the WCG You are a little bit blinded with lust for your Vikes. At best you have the 3rd best set of Rec in the Division behind the Pack and the Lions, Now I still can’t give the Bears any props on there WR’s like Packallday does and at least you guys do have Berrian an established rec and Wade is a very descent #3 slot rec. But wy does everyone in the Division want to think that Rookies at the WR position are going to step in and be the second coming of Moss? Those guys just don’t pop-up every year and if there is 1 this year I would be placing my money on the one in SF.
by davis0169 on Jun 29, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Megatron is the best WR in the division
But i’m not sure about the Lions having a better WR Corp than the Vikings. After CJ the talent drops off considerably.
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on Jun 30, 2009 3:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You could argue
The same about you guys though too. Berrian and then who is next Rice, Wade? I think the Lions got you with addition of Bryant Johnson and Ronald Curry. Both have had success as #2 wrs in the league.
by packallday555 on Jun 30, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh no I was just saying
I was saying that cause we have brought in quite a few veterans this offseason. Now our roster has Megatron, Curry, Bryant Johnson, Dennis northcut, and others. I still think that the Packers have the best starting 2 wr’s and I am aware that we have some journeymen after Megatron. But Northcut has been more productive than Wade through out his career and I don’t care what 1o the other guys you start opposite of megatron, we feel that our second best option is going to be our rookie TE.
by davis0169 on Jun 30, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would take Megatron and Johnson over Jennings and Driver. Megatron is huge, I had him on my fantasy roster, his highlights are awesome to watch.
by newmexvike on Jun 30, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why..
are you getting so defensive? I’m not in any way trying to “rattle your cages”. I think it’s a legit argument. I think your core is slightly more talented then the Bears core is but with Hester and Olsen vastly improving I don’t know how much longer you will have an edge.
I think Berrian is good. He is fast. You can’t teach that. I don’t think his route running is all that great, and he doesn’t seem to catch anything but deep routes. I compare him to Hester because like BB he is fast. All his catches seem to be deep routes, and he really isn’t a polished route runner.
Saying Davis would be a #4 on your team is kinda ridiculous. He could easily be a #2, especially if Rice were hurt.
Greg Olsen is not a wr so no he couldn’t ever be a #2 wr. He is a tight end. He was drafted in the 1st round of the draft and is out of Miami (everyone knows some of the tight ends they’ve produced..Winslow, Shockey). He had a great rookie year last year, and he should only improve this year. I watched almost every single Vikes game last year, and I think I’m a fairly good judge of talent.
by packallday555 on Jun 29, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
>>I think your core is slightly more talented then the Bears core is but with Hester and Olsen vastly >>improving I don’t know how much longer you will have an edge.
Have you been getting into REVENGE4FAVRE’s home brew? Did he leave it behind in Green Bay?
Hester and Olsen are improving but Rice won’t I suppose? Come on man. Berrian will finally be given a chance to show his potential this year. Name the best QB to throw to him the NFL.
>>Greg Olsen is not a wr so no he couldn’t ever be a #2 wr. He is a tight end.
He is probably their #2 option. But thanks for clearing that up for me.
I had Olsen on my fantasy roster his rookie year. I thought he might blow up in Chicago. He’s good but not outstanding. Here’s one for ya, Ki-Jana Carter was a 1st rounder, ya so what?
>>I watched almost every single Vikes game last year, and I think I’m a fairly good judge of talent.
well, at least someone does.
You’ve written some good posts in the past. There have been some really long words for a Packer fan as well. But this argument makes you sound like a different flavor of REVENGE4FAVRE. How can I take you serious when you want me to argue this?
BTW – The Packers will have no running game this year. And the GB defense will be like putty in Favre’s hands on MNF.
by newmexvike on Jun 30, 2009 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again just settle down
I am not attacking you or your team in any way. I said in my post, I am hesitant to do this but I’m going to anyways. I said that because I was afraid some of you guys would take this post the wrong way. I didn’t not post it with the intentions of bashing your team, I rather just wanted to hear your opinions and view points on it. I feel like I presented my post in a civil and ok manner, so why can’t you guys reply to me that same way? As for the topic itself, I don’t feel it’s an unfair one. The Bears receivers accumulated 12 more yards then yours did during the 08’ season. Though you have to take into account that Orton was better then Ferotte and Jackson. I feel that a lot of the wr’s you guys have are fairly similar, for that reason I decided to post it.
I have always said Berrian is good and I still stand by that. I think the fact that he put up impressive numbers with a mediocre QB says a lot about him too. I agree having a better QB could really help him out.
Yes, you guys have Rice and he is improving. So far in his career though the guy has been injury prone. Does that mean he will be for his entire tenure in the NFL? No, but I think at least right now it should be taken into account. As for Hester and Olsen, I just think both of them have a lot of potential. We all know about Hester’s ability as far as speed and agility go, and once he gets his route running and catching down he could be scary to go against.
As for Olsen right now he is good. I think this year or next, he will be outstanding. He has had Clark, who is a pretty solid te himself, who he has had to split time with. This past year he had
54 receptions for 574 yards. He averaged 10.6 yards per catch which ranks top 10 in the league. Looking at all the “big time” te’s they get 75+ touches a year. Obviously because he was sharing time with Clark he could not reach that but as he starts to take more and more time away from Clark, I don’t think it’s out of the question to think he’ll acheive those numbers. Especially, with Cutler at QB.
I’m not some Viking hater or anything like that. I am a die hard Packers fan, as you probably all already know. Just an FYI, I despise the Bears as most Packers fan do. I don’t mind the Vikings all that much. I live in MN, so I kind of have to tolerate you guys to a certain degree, and to a certain degree I actually kind of like you guys.
by packallday555 on Jun 30, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry about some posters here
I think the majority of us respect you and your opinions. Some people just can’t get over the fact that you are a Packer’s fan I think
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on Jun 30, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t get over how stupid he sounds when he says that the Bear WRs are as good as the Viking WRs. Either he doesn’t really know that much about our WRs, or his opinion is just flat out messed up. However, I mainly think he’s just baiting me, because no one is that stupid.
Every time I point out why his logic is lame, I’m suddenly attacking him. Some guys are so sensitive, maybe Rogers is having that effect on him. California dreamin’, eh bud?
by newmexvike on Jul 1, 2009 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's really not...
an insult. Other Vikings fans have agreed that the comparison is a fair one, so why aren’t you snapping at them like you are me? I’m sure the fact that I’m a Packer fan is why, and that’s understandable.
by packallday555 on Jul 1, 2009 1:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Understandable...
But certainly not warranted. Some people are just blinded by their biases.
Visit:
http://www.vikingvigil.com
Skol Vikings!
Woot Woot!
by Manimal on Jul 1, 2009 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll say in a heartbeat
that the Vikes WRs are better… for now. We have several young WRs that may end up being studs, but that is just speculation.
Right now though, hands down, Vikes WRs get the nod.
LSU Tigers Baseball... NCAA National Champions- 2009.
by Dane Noble on Jul 1, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you GBears
Nice to hear that from a Bear’s fan. I too think the Vikings WRs are a good group. But I do think Hester is ready to break out. What you guys really need is a true #1 WR to offset Hester. Right now, opposing Ds just have to worry about Forte, Hester, and Olson. Add a #1 WR and your offense could be scary
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on Jul 2, 2009 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We got Adrian Peterson the Bears have Adrian Peterson the Vikings Adrian Peterson is better. by far. That is our edge good day
"If at first you don't succeed - Skydiving isn't for you"
by Zoxide on Jun 30, 2009 12:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh btw berrian caught like a 9 yard pass last year and made a bunch of people miss and took it like 86 yards if I remember we didn’t throw that many deep balls because our coaches lack of confidence in our QB’s
"If at first you don't succeed - Skydiving isn't for you"
by Zoxide on Jun 30, 2009 12:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
did you mean?
The Bears have a back like AP in Forte? And if you mention a 9yrd pass taken to the house then You have to mention Hesters ability to take anything he touches to the house, And I don’t like Hester as a rec but he has the same ability, they are both speedy.
by davis0169 on Jun 30, 2009 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude
Do I have to roundhouse you again? What the hell do you know about the Vikes? You’re a Packer fan. I like how you make bad points about all our receivers.
Shiancoe has had bad catching problems in the past? Dude, Donald Lee freaking sucks.
Vikes and Bears similar? Oh, please. With Harvin we’re in the top 15 receiving teams.
Get ready for another bad year, Packers.
"He didn’t call me or anything. It was an accident, but a lot of people would have called to see how someone is doing after they got hit in the head. Especially if they had to go on the DL." — Morneau on pitcher Ron Villone after an April 2005 beaning.
by Gonzo2 on Jun 30, 2009 5:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Relax.
He’s being civil and trying to talk with a rival’s fans. He’s not being malicious. If you think he’s wrong, disagree, but don’t spout off inane statements regarding the next year when you have no idea how it will turn out.
Like it or not, the Bears and Vikings ARE similar. Pound the run to open up the pass, try to play stifiling defense. Whether or not Harvin turns in any stats is a complete unknown, just like trying to figure out if Hester will “get it” this year. You have no way of knowing.
Come on, guys, he’s not flaming, he’s not attacking anyone. He’s being civil.
You do the same.
Visit:
http://www.vikingvigil.com
Skol Vikings!
Woot Woot!
by Manimal on Jun 30, 2009 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
>>Like it or not, the Bears and Vikings ARE similar. Pound the run to open up the pass, try to play stifiling defense.
Philosophically, yes. Talent-wise, no freaking way. The Viking receivers crush the Bear’s when it comes to talent.
by newmexvike on Jun 30, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think
They “crush” them but like I said they have an edge.
by packallday555 on Jun 30, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well obviously..
You didn’t read my post to well. Before I said he has had catching problems, I said SHIANCOE IS GOOD. That is not a bad point. Shiancoe improved a ton last year. In the beginning of the year he struggled catching. But by the end of the year, he was playing well, and was kind of Jackson’s “go-to” guy. Again, I live in MN. I watched EVERY one of the Vikings games. I’ve played football my entire life. I like to think that I know at least a little bit about it.
What does any of this have to do with Donald Lee? Oh and I agree with you he does suck. Many of us Packers fans have been wanting a new te for a while now.
I don’t think Harvin makes you guys top 15 in the league. Everybody knows how raw he is at wr. I think everyone is going to have to wait and see how he does.
by packallday555 on Jun 30, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Favre Effect
I capped on Berrian through most of last year because his speed wasn’t what it was supposed to be, but then he picked it up towards the end. I’m guessing that his foot injury from earlier in the season was holding him back and he was trying to play through it, when possibly sitting out for a couple more games might have gotten him to 100%. Don’t know, just a guess, because in the final quarter of the season, Berrian was finally starting get some speed-separation from his coverage. Before that (and I think he deserves a lot of credit for this), he got all of his separation through situational awareness and taking advantage of his coverage being on the wrong foot or being distracted for a moment. Smart and savvy, Berrian’s going to be around for a while.
Rice is our flash-in-the-pan, he’s looked great so many times, but then he drops back again or gets injured. He has the skills, the phyique, he just has to put it all together and I think this will be the year he does that.. or he’s risking being traded off. I like Rice a lot, and am hoping this will be his break-out year.
Wade has been Mr. Reliable, in place for the dink ‘n dunk when needed. He takes flak for being old, but he’s actually a year younger than Berrian.
Harvin will probably be a great WR one day, despite all the talk of wildcats. Putting him in the backfield is probably a waste of his talents considering that we have AP and CT doing a stand up job of it back there already. Unless he turns out to be a phenom (possible), he’ll make the greatest impact on special teams.
Shianco has developed a knack for getting open too, and while Kleinsasser is a decent receiver, he’s mostly used as downfield blocker or road-grader.
All these guys, however, will see more receptions and better openings when they get the ball, when Favre throws to them. First, it’s because Favre will throw more passes than Jackson and Ferrotte did, and second, because Favre has more experience and will make superior reads which will result in receptions that leave the receiver in a better position than before. Expect all their numbers to improve.
by DCPurple on Jun 30, 2009 11:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
dead on. only one point of contention with me:
>>Putting him in the backfield is probably a waste of his talents considering that we have AP and CT doing a stand up job of it back there already.
I disagree. I think there is no way to know what he will be best at know that he’s in the NFL. But I say use him as many ways as you can. You can’t teach elusive and if he brings it to the table, use him and use him often, any way you can. I also think he’ll be more than just a special teamer.
Otherwise you nailed it on Berrian and Wade. But don’t forget Chester Taylor, a 3rd down artist.
by newmexvike on Jun 30, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The reason I said that putting Harvin in the backfield is probably a waste because with AP already there, there’s only so many RB touches to go around. Is Harvin better than AP back there? I don’t think so. But if he’s put downfield, he immediately makes an impact, not just as a receiver, but in stretching the field a bit more for AP when AP does get the ball.
by DCPurple on Jul 2, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FYI
Wade is younger than BB. But only by 2 months
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on Jun 30, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Old Dudes? LOL
I didn’t say they were old, I said that Wade sometimes catches flak for being old. I was putting that to rest with a lil’ factoid, both he and BB are in their prime :)
by DCPurple on Jul 2, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just realized
When I wrote this post I completely forgot about Allison. Is he still on the team? He has shown some flashes of brilliance. Do you guys think he has the potential to ever become a good receiver? (Possibly a #2 guy, or maybe even #1 guy?)
by packallday555 on Jul 1, 2009 2:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he’s too small to ever really be a true #1, or even #2 guy. He’ll replace Wade within a couple years, I think. But Jaymar Johnson, apparently, is nipping at his heels for that spot on the depth chart.
by virginia viking on Jul 1, 2009 6:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
too small... in height?
one name steve smith
by pride4purple on Jul 1, 2009 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ya..
Isn’t Allison pretty fast and agile though?
by packallday555 on Jul 1, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that was Harvins spot
Or is Harvin going to be your guys #1/2 wr in the future. Everything we get on him is that he is going to be somekind of “wildcat” formation guy, and I can’t see him at the RB position not with ADAP and possibly the best goal line RB that dosn’t get to play in CT. So where does Harvin fit into the scheme of things in the near future?Again I just don’t see Harvin as being all that, not that he doesn’t have speed and the intangables but name me 3 other Florida Gators that have been productive at any position on the Offencive side of the ball. They all seem to be products of the system down there in Florida. I guess when you only play a couple of real teams every year it’s not hard to run up stats.
by davis0169 on Jul 2, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Allison
I don’t know, the guy never seems to step up…. I’m guessing this will be his last year to do so. Like Virginia Viking said, JJ is looking pretty good and with Harvin on the high performance side, it’s going to be a do-or-be-cut year for Allison, I think.
by DCPurple on Jul 2, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree and disagree
our wr’s put up similar numbers to the bears wr’s. i agree. but we throw a lot less so i think our wr’s are a bit better than the bears. i think that if megatron wasn’t so good we’d be better than the lions as well. that dude counts as the number 1 and the 1 1/2 receiver. he needs to sit down with barry sanders and learn how to cope with being a freak on the lions. but i digress.
berrian is a solid number 1. he’s got speed, he’s got moves, he’s smart. but he does need to improve his route running. i see him getting 1100 yards.
wade is a very good number 3. i love this guy. he’s never going to be confused with but the guy is solid. every play. he’s not going to burn anyone with his speed. he’s not going to put some fashy move on anyone. he’s just going to catch the ball. he’s going to be good for 700 yards.
shank is a solid te. as long as he continues to catch the ball he will continue to improve. i think his case of the dropsies can be attributed to adjusting to a new system.
i see him also contributing 700 yards.
i didn’t mention a number 2 wr because i feel we don’t have one. wade and rice have kinda split duties at 2 and 3 with some of the other receivers appearing from time to time. we really need either rice or harvin to step up and take the number 2 spot.
i see rice going one of two ways. either he clicks this year and becomes at least our solid number 2. or he becomes one of those guys that could have been. you know the ones. they come out and have brilliant games or brilliant catches every now and then but disappear for longer and longer stretches until they’re gone for good. it’s either their work ethic or injuries or just not having what it takes. hopefully he clicks and winds up with 800 yards. otherwise, maybe 200.
harvin. this guy can go one of three ways. he’ll either be a stud right out of the chute ala moss and ap. he’ll take time to develope like most guys. or he’ll be a bust ala troy w. i know which one we’re all hoping for but i don’t see him busting out of the gate. i see him getting some runs, some passes. showing progress. maybe 400 all purpose yards with 200 coming from receiving.
all total it looks like 3400 yards plus garbage work for other guys or taking up slack for rice. this would be what i would expect with any of our viable starters. i don’t see favre having as big of an impact as everyone seems to think. we are just not a passing offense. we run and we run well. the biggest impact favre will have is when his yards are aquired, not how many.
i haven’t given up hope that favre will not be our qb. he hasn’t signed. he isn’t a viking. in my opinion what he brings to the team isn’t worth the investment. he’s a marginal upgrade at best and complete flop at worst
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 2, 2009 12:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good post and I agree
Berrian is a solid guy. My only knock on him, and it’s just one is that like you said he needs to improve his route running. For the life of me I don’t get why teams don’t just give him a huge cushion, because most of the team all he does is go deep, and people still don’t stop it. I agree Rice or Harvin will have to take over the #2 spot. I don’t think Harvin will be ready this year, and probably not next either, but you never know. Shiancoe is solid also. He kind of became the go to guy last year for Jackson at the end of the year. The only reason I say your comparable to the Bears wr’s is stats, and because Hester/Olsen have the potential to be a very good duo. I agree your offense is not suited to get big pass yards. Your a running team and you should be.
I can understand why you wouldn’t want Favre but I still don’t agree with that. You could make it to the playoffs with Jackson, Sage, or Favre as QB, just because of your run game and D. The thing is what happens when you get to the playoffs. When you run into a very stout D, I don’t know if Jackson or Sage will be able to get it done, where I think Favre potentially could depending on what Favre he is. If he is the Favre that is a gunslinger, you guys likely won’t be able to go far in the playoffs. If it’s the Favre from 07’, who manages the game, and doesn’t take a bunch of risks, then I think you guys could go very far in the playoffs.
by packallday555 on Jul 2, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
unfortunately i don’t feel that favre has the physical tools to last an entire season plus playoffs. if i felt differently about that one thing i’d be ok with having him.
i just see him tanking at the end regardless of whether he tries to be a gunslinger or a game manager.
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 2, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair point
That’s true. He has been having problems with his shoulder now for a while, so why should anyone assume he won’t again this year. I just think if he could stay healthy he would be your best chance.
by packallday555 on Jul 2, 2009 2:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

by 














