Favre Too Much for Favre Too Long
Back in the early days of Favregeddon, I said this:
Now, just 8 months or so later, the path is clear. Brad Childress has made it blatantly obvious that he wants Favre in Minnesota. The Packers can't stand in the way of it happening, and neither can anybody else. I understand that he needs to be medically cleared after what happened to him last season. . .but if it's determined that the aforementioned "major surgery" isn't needed on Tuesday, the Vikings should demand that Favre have his name on a contract within 48 hours, or be prepared to go on without him.
Well, it wasn't exactly "48 hours" or anything like that, but apparently Brad Childress had the same sort of idea as I did. According to ESPN.com, the Vikings have suspended their pursuit of Favre. Childress apparently mandated that Favre show up at the Vikings' OTAs this week if he was serious about signing with the Vikings for his 19th NFL season, and the ol' gunslinger failed to do so. Now, we all know that this by no stretch of the imagination means that this is the end of this story.
But it should be.
Yes, it was just a few short weeks ago that I declared that I was, as the kids today might say, "down with" the idea of Brett Favre coming to Minnesota to quarterback the Vikings. And I was, if Favre was willing to be a part of the team and participate like everybody else. Yes, I know that Favre just had surgery on his shoulder, and I'm sure that Brad Childress understands that as well. However, all Childress was asking was for Favre to show up. . .not to throw a hundred deep balls to Bernard Berrian or run the two-minute offense or anything like that. All he asked was for Favre to show up.
And he didn't do it.
Favre could have done plenty of other things during the OTA time period as they relate to the Vikings. He could have talked to coaches and his potential teammates, he could have watched game film with folks, he could have just hung around the place and watched what was going on. But he didn't feel the need to do so.
A healthy Brett Favre could probably get himself a job in a lot of NFL cities, based on how he's performed when he's been healthy over the last couple of years. The thing is, though. . .Favre has made it pretty clear that he doesn't want any quarterback job. He wants the Minnesota Vikings' quarterback job. And Brad Childress has made overtures that he wants Favre to be the Vikings' quarterback in 2009. And, frankly, I'm still fine with that. . .if Favre decides he wants to join the rest of the team at the off-season activities that every other player on the Vikings' roster has to go through.
However, if Childress simply allows Favre to waltz in here in the last week of July and take an opportunity away from Tarvaris Jackson or Sage Rosenfels, both of whom will have spent this off-season busting their respective asses, I'm going to be livid. And I would imagine that this wouldn't go over terribly well in the Minnesota locker room, either.
Sadly, this is exactly what I fear is going to happen. And any positive on-the-field gains brought on by bringing in Favre could be completely offset. . .and then some. . .by what would happen in the locker room and off-the-field.
A few weeks ago, I thought that bringing in Favre would be the key to the Vikings making a run at a championship. . .now I have more of a feeling that it's the sort of thing that could completely blow up the entire 2009 season. And if the entire 2009 season gets blown up, Brad Childress will go down, Rick Spielman could possibly go down, and the very future of the Vikings in Minnesota could hang in the balance.
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, what did you think of the play?
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This will just keep playing on... and on... and on
With reports of Rob Brzezinski already talking to Bus Cook, it is obvious the decision to bring Favre in has been made. Yes, there are stipulations like the arm must function and a price for a year or two worth of service must be negotiated, but the go ahead has already been given.
It is looking like there was a deadline and it was for Brett to be these last OTAs. That doesn’t look like it will happen at all because Brett isn’t comfortable with his shoulder yet. That may be because it isn’t back to the near pain free status he was looking for yet, or because not enough time has transpired from the surgery, and/or it may be because of his aversions to OTAs that Kevin Seifert and others have brought up. If he shows up immediately after OTAs conclude then I highly suspect that as the reason.
For those in the anti-Favre camp, there is hope that his shoulder is messed up more than just the bicep tendon as ESPN injury consultant Stephania Bell suspects, or that Zygi Wilf or Brad Childress get fed up by the delays and being led around by the nose by this player, and then to put a foot down and say that, “this dance is over and we’re moving on.”
For the pro-Favre camp, nothing has really changed other than confirmation that the team is indeed pursuing the almost 40 year old quarterback. It just means the announcement is probably weeks off, sometime between next week and mid July. This means the drama and headlines will play out even longer as a buildup to Brett stepping onto the field in Vikings Purple.
Gonzo, as far as the work Sagevaris Jacksonfels has put in, let’s hope it pays off and neither get too upset over being lied to about having a shot at the starting QB position, which along with thoughts of being disrespected and used as a pawn in this game with Brett, they might be thinking. Oh, and I’d prepare to be livid come July.
It may take a village to raise a child, but it takes a Viking to raze a village.
by Luft Krigare on Jun 9, 2009 10:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nothing but a smoke screen.
This is the same type of thing that came out directly after there were confirmed reports of Favre having discussions with the Vikings.
It is simply trying to distract the media enough so that they can work out the details in a little more peaceful setting.
We all know Favre is still recovering from the surgery, and we know that his family booked a butt-load of rooms for the Vikes-Packers game. It makes no sense for Chilly to set an ultimatum for Favre to show up to a workout when he is recovering from surgery.
Nothing has changed since news broke earlier about Favre’s surgery and the family reserving the rooms.
Is anyone surprised at this report? I know I am not.
It is the same game that is always played in these circles.
by Bjorno on Jun 9, 2009 10:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
FALSE
Sirius NFL reported that Ed Werner jumped the gun, again. This deadline stuff was coming from some blogger and Werner was trying to bring the latest “Breaking News on Favre”, but he was wrong.
On the other hand, Favre is reporting to Childress up in Minnesota, and if I remember correctly, it was supposed to be this week sometime.
One other note of interest: It was reported (and confirmed) that Favre has reserved about 20-25 rooms in Green Bay for the Viking/Packer game, umm, not for the game per se, but for his family to stay in while attending the game. lol
by stilpony on Jun 9, 2009 10:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You need to just take a deep breath, Gonzo ... exhale ... inhale ... exhale
Favre is obviously fine with things as they are. Childress is fine with this — Favre can’t do anything until he’s healed, and anyway the OTAs are ending in a few days, with little else between now and July. From a team/business point of view, in fact, Childress & Vikigns have to be very HAPPY things are working out this way — the last thing he wants to have to do is sign Favre for lots of $ and declare him the starter when no one is sure he will be teh same after he heals!
You are actually pleading for something to happen RIGHT NOW that would be bad for the Vikings if it happened RIGHT NOW. Please stop, it’s counterproductive to want what you want, just be patient.
by puddnhead on Jun 9, 2009 11:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
Good point… This is all probably planned out, I’m sure Sagevaris Jacksonfels is in the loop and is being coached by the PR dept as well. This way we get a chance to make sure BF heals and is ready to go before we see him put on a JDB jersey…
by ctowner35 on Jun 10, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
now I have more of a feeling that it’s the sort of thing that could completely blow up the entire 2009 season
Yes! This is what I’ve thought all along!
In AP I trust
Just say no to Favre.
by FarvaForTheVikings on Jun 9, 2009 11:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Me too
Farva, I honestly think I have agreed with every single comment you’ve made about Mr. F-word throughout this entire ridiculous ordeal. Thank you for your sanity.
by ericj69 on Jun 10, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The feeling is mutual.
Seems like the whole world’s going insane nowadays.
In AP I trust
Just say no to Favre.
by FarvaForTheVikings on Jun 10, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
(louder fart sound)
In AP I trust
Just say no to Favre.
by FarvaForTheVikings on Jun 10, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks
I was afraid that I might have come off as simple and immature.
I don’t really mean it in a hateful context. I respect your right to an opinion. Even a stubborn, short-sighted, opinion blinded by your passion for pro-Viking thoughts. In a way, it admirable how much you dislike Favre. In a way.
by newmexvike on Jun 10, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t worry man, I take this all in stride. No point in taking anything personal.
Even if your comment is brimming with backhanded compliments.
In AP I trust
Just say no to Favre.
by FarvaForTheVikings on Jun 10, 2009 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mo' money mo' money
Everything we hear about this saga from now until the start of training camp is about one thing……..or should I say many millions of things. This is how you negotiate with Brett Farve, or should I say Bus Cook. In the media.
Make no mistake guys. At this point Farve has already been fitted for his uniform. He will be leading the purple this year. The question is for how much?
Us “no longer pursuing” is just letting them know he’s not so valuable to us that we’ll back up the money truck. And for that I applaud the front office. They are showing us that they’re keeping their heads cool, even if the media is acting like this is probably more important than curing cancer.
Farve will be a Viking, but I hope its for more like 7-8 million than for 14 million. God knows he isn’t hurting for cash.
by NYCVike on Jun 9, 2009 11:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with the part about taking away the opportunity away from T-Jack and Sage because I think thats a big deal. But the players on the team wanna win and go places and the coaches are not stupid they know just how good Jackson and Sage are especially when training camp starts. I don’t know if Favre is going to take us to the superbowl but I’d feel more comfortable with him then anyone else on are team except maybe Peterson at QB.
by Zoxide on Jun 10, 2009 12:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why can't he just make up his mind?
Right now Brett Favre is getting a sick pleasure by single-handedly confusing every fan of the Vikings organization. This is guy is after two things. Revenge and money. At first I thought, hey, why not bring in Favre? Now I am praying to god that this old man won’t even go near the Vikings. We can take care of the Packers without Favre, we already have, many times before. Why pay him all the money he’s asking? I’ll play for way cheaper and throw interceptions, just like Favre! I can stand this no longer. Screw you, Favre. Go attend to your lawn in Mississippi.
"He didn’t call me or anything. It was an accident, but a lot of people would have called to see how someone is doing after they got hit in the head. Especially if they had to go on the DL." — Morneau on pitcher Ron Villone after an April 2005 beaning.
by Gonzo2 on Jun 10, 2009 1:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Points to Consider
The very future of the Vikings in Minnesota does hang in the balance.
Getting a Super Bowl ring won’t ruin anyone’s career in football; losing one’s composure might.
Sure, Favre is only human. He also managed to get that piece of jewelry.
If his arm heals, he’s still a dangerous weapon, flawed as he may be otherwise.
by Elgar on Jun 10, 2009 1:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sure he got that jewelry — over a decade ago, when he was still in his late twenties.
In AP I trust
Just say no to Favre.
by FarvaForTheVikings on Jun 10, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
what have you done for me lately?
1) cause much drama
2) break down at season’s end
by iseepurplepeople on Jun 10, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tried to get away
from all this Favre talk. So I decided to watch a movie. Popped “Something About Mary” into my DVD player. I forgot that a certain former GB QB had a minor role in this flick.
ARRRGGGHHHH!
He’s everywhere. Now I am afraid to go to sleep. I am afraid he will enter my dreams and turn them into nightmares. Is there no end to this madness?
Calgon … take me away.
by Odin on Jun 10, 2009 1:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is there no end to this madness?
No. You’re pretty much screwed.
In AP I trust
Just say no to Favre.
by FarvaForTheVikings on Jun 10, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gonzo, you sound like the type of fan that’s going to give up on the entire season if the vikings lose week 1. If Favre ends up on the team it will happen before training camp begins, no doubt about it…
by dsludo on Jun 10, 2009 6:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
then you obviously know nothing
about our distinguished host.
He makes extremely valid points and you all cry out, “Wah wah, who cares, BRETT BRETT BRETTY!! YES!”
BF went into New York last year, acted like he was better than everybody else, never formed bonds with his teammates, and divided the locker room. Do you not think the same thing will happen here if this charade continues?
V-I-K-I-N-G-S! Skol Vikings, Let's Go!!
by TheViking83 on Jun 10, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not even close.
Mr. F-word to Minnesota is pretty much inevitable, after he drags this out another 45+ days for no reason of course. But if Favre joins the Vikings and we lose Week 1, Gonzo, myself, and every other sane Vikings fan won’t freak out. Sure we’ll be pissed—I mean c’mon, it’s the frickin’ Browns.
However, if Favre joins the team, creates distractions and divisions in the locker room, and stumbles down the stretch because he didn’t condition himself for a full 16-game season by needlessly hemming and hawing all summer, THEN I will freak out. Like Gonzo I’m just very afraid that it will happen, because it’s exactly what happened to the Jets last year!
by ericj69 on Jun 10, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i see what you're saying eric.....but
the tailspin last year was because of his injury. If he gets hurt this year, he needs to sit until he’s ready to go back into the game healthy. When he’s healthy he’s top 5 qb in the league even at 40.
We’re still going to get the INT’s, but when he’s healthy he’s a huge asset. Our great D will cancel out any INT’s. The rest is points on the board baby! JUST STAY HEALTHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by dsludo on Jun 11, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
when has brett favre ever sat? ever? even when he should have?
by iseepurplepeople on Jun 12, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still think
your right about the locker room effect. I don’t like the idea of one player being above the rest of the team. Thats what going to happen with Favre. What I don’t get is that if Favre really wants to get back at Green Bay and win a title with the Vikings, why doesn’t he put in the work. Instead he will probabaly milk this till after training camp again.
JT
by STLVikesFAN on Jun 10, 2009 6:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
exactly.
The reason he doesn’t want to come in, dedicate himself 100%, and truly work his butt off anymore, is because he’s Brett Favre and he doesn’t feel like he has to. He has always been a premadonna, and he ALWAYS WILL be a premadonna.
V-I-K-I-N-G-S! Skol Vikings, Let's Go!!
by TheViking83 on Jun 10, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correct!
I’ll take “Things That Should Be Obvious To Everyone But For Some Reason Aren’t” for $200 Alex.
by ericj69 on Jun 10, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Answer:
Daily Double.
In AP I trust
Just say no to Favre.
by FarvaForTheVikings on Jun 10, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You've got to be kidding
You really think he should come in and participate before he has a contract?? Or, do you think he should sign a contract before he knows if he’ll be able to play?? Or, do you think he’s perfectly ready to play, but he’d rather sit around being a lazy a$$ than prepare for what could be his last chance to win a Super Bowl ring? That’s right, he made it to the NFL and lasted for 18 years because he has perfected the art of skating by in life! Get a clue.
by newmexvike on Jun 10, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Brett the only Minnesota Viking?
When I turned on my computer this morning I was looking forward to reading some Vikings news on the Daily Norseman. What do I see when it comes up? 4 out of 5 of the headlines are about Brett Favre! Oh, the 5th, Childress being a top 15 coach. Right. Are there any other players on this team? Where would I find news about the MINNESOTA VIKINGS?
I for one would like to put all this Brett crap aside and find out what the rest of the team is doing. Any one else feel that way? We all know nothing will happen until the very last minute, so lets get on with news about the players who are actually being paid to be there.
by VikingEric on Jun 10, 2009 9:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ok...
There are some other players too…. and they are doing what is asked of them and nothing newsworthy is going on.
Report finished. There is rarely newsworthy “on the field” stories until training camp starts. A bunch of guys standing around without pads on pretending to play a little bit…? You find the story.
V-I-K-I-N-G-S! Skol Vikings, Let's Go!!
by TheViking83 on Jun 10, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Story found and read, Thank You...
But for a lot of Brett Favre Haters a couple of months ago there sure seems to be a whole lot love for the guy now. This is exactly what he wants and he is getting it, everybody talk about Favre.
by VikingEric on Jun 10, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're absolutely right
but I pray you are not confusing me with one of those people. I most certainly have NO LOVE for BF, and wish desperately that none of this talk was going on.
I was just simply stating that, unfortunately, Brett is all there is to talk about right now. That’s why I’m so anxious for training camp… where guys developmental process can really begin to be evaluated.
Buck Frett.
V-I-K-I-N-G-S! Skol Vikings, Let's Go!!
by TheViking83 on Jun 10, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BREAKING NEWS ABOUT BRETT FAVRE!!!
Just kidding. I just read some good stuff about the OTA’s on NFL.com and in the STAR TRIBUNE videos there was a good little peice from Coach on Kenechi Udeze.
The best part of it all… not a mention of Favre!
by VikingEric on Jun 10, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any Udeze story
is a story I want to read. Nice finds; I’ll certainly be checking them out once I escape from prison… I mean, work.
V-I-K-I-N-G-S! Skol Vikings, Let's Go!!
by TheViking83 on Jun 10, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you forgot the part about all the other players reading about and discussing all the favre stories.
by iseepurplepeople on Jun 10, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What was I thinking!
Brett Favre is not a Minnesota Viking!
by VikingEric on Jun 10, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate ESPN so much right now
because I have no idea what’s going on. I read a report that Childress has made a deadline, then I read less than 24 hours later that there wasn’t a deadline. Now I’ve read that the deadline has already passed, citing team and league sources (Not by name of course), and that the Vikes VP told Bus Cook we are no longer interested. And then, this morning, I read a quote from Childress that says he never imposed a deadline at all. But he wouldn’t comment on the Vikes interest.
Uggghh. ESPN, get your shit together and stop posting your rumor stories as if they’re the truth. Other media outlets who are opposing ESPN, get your shit together too. I am so SICK of the conflicting reports. The media is supposed to let me know what’s going on, not confuse the fuck out of me.
by Frost on Jun 10, 2009 10:10 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I agree 900%
I was a journalism minor in school and this shit just amazes me.
It’s called fact checking and BSPN needs to do a little more of this.
I am still pissed as to why we can’t just get a cold hard statement from Favre or Childress, unless they are negotiating right now.
"American made, White Trash raised, and Bad Ass engraved"
by Viking Frog on Jun 10, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was today's interview with Childress on KFAN not good enough?
http://www.kfan.com/cc-common/podcast/single_podcast.html?podcast=KFAN_Vikings.xml
When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.
by Robert Rence on Jun 10, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
"anonymous sources"
are the key to any ESPN writer’s job and paycheck. Any old rumor can be reported as fact as long as they say that an “anonymous source” told them so. It’s ridiculous and I really feel that the sports media reporting in this country needs to begin to be put under much stricter watch.
As a result of so many false reports over the past few years, I honestly believe hardly anything I hear on ESPN anymore… and that deeply saddens me.
V-I-K-I-N-G-S! Skol Vikings, Let's Go!!
by TheViking83 on Jun 10, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NFL just $cashing$ in
As a huge fan of the NFL, da Cards (Since 1993) and the Vikings (except when they play da cards) from growing up in Northern Iowa, I love this story and the fact that Brett Favre has almost singlehandedly over the last few years made the NFL a 365 day a year topic of discussion.
He will be a Viking this year. Whether that works for the Vikings or not we’ll just have to wait and see. It could lead to a SB or it could be a train wreck, but either way it is going to be fun to watch. I love the NFL! Men getting paid to play a game!!
by Drullin'OverDaCards on Jun 10, 2009 11:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I won't be having much fun when the ball's in Favre's hands.
I’ll be to busy worrying about my eyes melting. I guess I could always study the line while he’s got it, see how they’re doing.
In AP I trust
Just say no to Favre.
by FarvaForTheVikings on Jun 10, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
“just hand it to AP. just hand it to AP”
by iseepurplepeople on Jun 11, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
brace for impact gonzo!
the train wreck’s coming! this is a team. did you watch us play last year? even when we lost? everyone had everyone else’s back from the owner on down. it’s one of the things i love about our current coaching staff and ownership. when one aspect stumbled another would try to carry it. there was no wavering.
remember the packer game when peterson said “uh huh” we are NOT losing this game? does anyone think favre can do that? i sure don’t.
think how all those other guys will feel with favre on the team. here’s a guy who not only is allowed to just walk in take over but expects it. he may have earned respect throughout the league for his play during his career but that doesn’t mean he instantly gets the respect in the locker room. it undermines the coaching and ownership system that has been in place the last 3 years.
this isn’t favre at 30 we’re talking about it’s favre at 40 and to me it’s just not worth it.
by iseepurplepeople on Jun 10, 2009 12:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
too bad
You’ll just have to learn to deal with it. It’s happening. Eventually. Because the owners and coaches apparently care more about increasing their chances to win, while you apparently mostly care about “having each other’s backs” while losing.
by puddnhead on Jun 10, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that’s the team spirit! there’s never been a championship team who hasn’t had each other’s backs. they may fall apart afterward if they let the success go to their heads but they don’t win without it. so your recipe for success is lacking an ingredient. and since when has a 40 year old with a gimp arm increased the chances of anybody winning? we are talking about professional football here right?
by iseepurplepeople on Jun 10, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN Report
Status Alert:Favre’s family and friends have reportedly booked 25 to 30 rooms at a hotel near Lambeau Field for the weekend of the Nov. 1 Vikings/Packers game at Green Bay, the Green Bay Press Gazette reports. (Jun 9)
by BuzdViking on Jun 10, 2009 1:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Old news. Check the Fanposts!
Visit:
http://www.vikingvigil.com
Skol Vikings!
Woot Woot!
by Manimal on Jun 10, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How Tacking into the Wind Can Apply to Favre and the Port of Miami
Situations arise in which you cannot sail directly where you need to go, and the Viking ship finds itself in such seas. Some people will grow frustrated with the zig zag course the ship is taking, but the captain must accept the fact that no dial exists inside the boat that can change the way the wind is blowing right now. He can only adjust the rigging of the ship, pray for good weather to come, and remain determined to get where they all need to go.
Haggling is the fine art of getting the things you need but lack without losing the things you need and already have.
Translation: You can neither turn up your nose at Favre nor cave in to all his whims.
If you need to get to a far off land that you’ve never before reached, you neither emphasize to a potential guide who has been there himself that his furs really stink, nor do you give him the idea that you are so desparate to get there that you’ll do anything and everything that he wants.
Every coach and player must focus on the destination, not get distracted by the foaming waves and the swirling wind or the latest Brett Favre rumors.
Childress is not focusing on Favre now, because Favre is not now a Viking. Childress is not telling Favre to take a long walk off a short pier yet either, because no one knows for sure how fast and well Favre’s arm will mend or whether it might just pull the rudder at a key moment and make a difference.
If Peterson hadn’t fumbled in that Packer game, he wouldn’t have had to put on his cape, but the most important thing to recall was that he didn’t lose his cool and start pointing his finger at someone else.
Lightning may strike and splinter the mast. If it does, there will be those safe ashore who’ll say we were all fools to ever set sail. On the other hand, when we need every drop of our fresh water available to make the distant shore alive, we don’t let any barrels of it carelessly spill overboard.
by Elgar on Jun 10, 2009 2:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What has happened makes sense
Favre is not going anywhere near Eden Prairie until he knows he can play and signs a contract. I honestly believe there is a chance he won’t recover enough, not likely, but there is a chance. If he were to go to OTAs and then not be able to play, everyone has egg on their face. With that being said, I doubt the Vikings are disappointed he has not shown up yet.
So if the Vikings sign Favre, are you thinking Sage and Jackson don’t need to prepare themselves right now? Obviously not, Jackson is no where near a polished product and Sage just got there. They may very well be preparing for a showdown where the loser gets cut (hopefully not cut). Besides the backup to Favre better be ready to go.
Favre will be plenty prepared if he gets in by early July. The NFL is not about fair anyhow, it’s about production. We all need to relax and wait. If in mid July, we’re still speculating, it will be time to question this idea.
And to those who don’t think Favre’ll get it done this year; if he’s healthy and playing for the Viking offense, it will be better than 8-3. Factor in a cushy schedule, and it could be monumental. I don’t know how you can think he won’t get it gone, provided he’s healthy, which is the only way it will happen. You’re not hearing many football analysts saying otherwise these days. It seems like a no-brainer to me.
by newmexvike on Jun 10, 2009 2:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the vikings can get it done with or without favre. we won the division last year without favre. is there any doubt we can do it again this year without favre? not in mind. we’re taking the division this year no matter who our qb is. can favre lead us to 10-0? absolutely! not a doubt in my mind. the guy is a good qb. good not great. he may have been great at one time but at 40 he is not longer great.
my problem with favre comes after week 11 – 13. when that 40 year old body starts to wear down. even more so in the playoffs. i just don’t think he has enough left complete a full season plus playoffs. his numbers tank at the end of the year and he’s coming off an injury. that’s a recipe for a massive meltdown.
by iseepurplepeople on Jun 10, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
>>the vikings can get it done with or without favre.
Agreed, but Favre gives the Vikes a better chance, he’s a safer bet. There is less potential for down-side.
>>the guy is a good qb. good not great. he may have been great at one time but at 40 he is not longer great.
Agreed, but for sure he’s better than Jackson and Booty. And no one knows how Sage will perform if he’s the starter, he’s never done it for a whole season.
>>my problem with favre comes after week 11 – 13. when that 40 year old body starts to wear down.
That’s a very real possibility. So don’t trade off your other good QBs like the Jets did. That way someone else can step in. And Favre on the bench, is not as good as Favre on the field, but he would still be an asset.
by newmexvike on Jun 10, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Agreed, but for sure he’s better than Jackson and Booty. And no one knows how Sage will perform if he’s the starter, he’s never done it for a whole season.”
Umm, neither has Jackson.
by Frost on Jun 10, 2009 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, he was given the opportunity to be the starter at the beginning of a season, but lost the job. Had he played better, it was his job. I like Jackson, his skills are fun to watch. But his decision making can drive you insane. I think he needs to sit back and watch a guy like Favre do his thing for a while. Partly to learn how to play/prepare, partly to not see it as such a big deal. I think he lets the pressure really get to him. That might pass with experience.
Lately it seems like QBs start too soon. Tommy Kramer, Gannon, Steve Young; guys used to ride the bench behind a veteran a lot longer than they do now days. I think sometimes this is bad, but I get that when you pay them as much as they do, you need to put that payroll on the field.
by newmexvike on Jun 10, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only issue...
I have with your statement is that Favre is a safer bet.
How?
He throws just as many interceptions as he does touchdowns. That’s my main thing with the Pro-Favre group: he’s not careful with the ball. Ideally, the Vikings would want a QB who makes safe, accurate throws to keep the defense honest so the running game and defense can take over the game.
I would freely admit that ten, even five years ago, Favre would hands down be a better choice. But now? I just don’t see it. Is a 40 year old Favre really that much of an upgrade over a 31 (could be off, but it’s around there and I’m lazy) year old Sage or a young Tarvaris? Is it worth the media circus? I just don’t see it. I never have, and until he signs and plays, I won’t.
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by Manimal on Jun 11, 2009 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
will he be better than sage or jackson in the playoffs? i don’t think so. i don’t think his body can last that long. i’d rather make the playoffs at 10-6 again with jackson or sage having played the whole season and knowing that we’re going to see the same performance out of the qb as we have all season than to go 12-4 with favre and him not be able to cut it in the playoffs because he is worn down but still tries to play like he’s not.
by iseepurplepeople on Jun 11, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just shoot me......
Please, put me out of this idiots (He Who shall not be named) misery?
"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk"
by VikesFaninNM on Jun 10, 2009 3:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what a chance
hey fellas had to get in on this. I am a cowboys fan down in texas. ive been watching the farve saga unfold the past year or so. I dont understand why so many in minn are so upset about possibly getting one of the all time greatest qbs to ever play the game. yea his game is not what it once was, but i guarantee you it is better than jackson/rosenfels. I would like to see what the old man could do on a team with the best rb in the nfl and a great defense. he aquired a most of his stats when green bay did not have a good team around him. farve led the jets t o a 8-3 start last year and got injured. the old man can still play if his arm is healed. I for one will be watching minn play from here in texas if he decides he can play. go farve go vikings.
by crsmythe on Jun 11, 2009 12:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what a chance revisited
I’m from Ca and didn’t follow Favre in his hey-day, but I watched all the Jets games last season & was amazed at how good he really is-especially I loved the win over Belicheat. How could Mangini ever dislike Brett after that? I keep hearing Favre’s a choker but didn’t see that. I also would love to see him on a team with the Vikings talent. Brett’s teammates on the Jets whined to the media about even him slapping someone on the butt(Mangold, I believe did that). Then there was T. Jones after having the best season of his career. I cannot see the Vikings doing anything close to that no matter what. Go Vikings!
by rollerball on Jun 11, 2009 11:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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